Marshall DSL5 cr speaker upgrade

I would like to share my experiences in testing some other loudspeakers by my Marshall DSL5. The difference is more audible in playing live, but with good headphones it is also easy to notice. I expected to hear more difference in compare to the original Stock speaker. It is a really good one, it has a punch (dynamic and speed) and instant classic Marshall tone.Some people receive it as a liitle metallic, but this loudspeaker plays with a full sound. The one I liked the least was the Greenback. I missed bass, the sound was too flat, too sandy. I prefered the Creamback. It played clear, the sound was sonorous. The high frequences are clear, but not sharp, however it lacks the colourtful base. The Stock speaker sounds with more bass, what gives more fullness. Very important - the two tested speakers were new, while the original one has been already played several houres.
I recommend to listen to this test with the good headphones.
Recorded: phone Xiaomi Redmi Note 9S
Edit 08.03.2021.
After 15 hours of playing there is no change in the sound. I decided to keep the Stock speaker. In dirty channel it resembles the Marshall sound the most..

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  • @crunchchannel8788
    @crunchchannel87883 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. I am considering getting a DSL 5CR and I am glad someone check that the sound is very good with the stock speaker. Very helpful video.

  • @honkytonkinson9787
    @honkytonkinson97872 жыл бұрын

    You get a very nice sound with all three speakers! Sounds like the 1960s! I’ve watched your video before, shopping for a new speaker. I finally chose the creamback which will be here in a couple days. I’m living vicariously through KZread until I new speaker day

  • @honkytonkinson9787

    @honkytonkinson9787

    Жыл бұрын

    A follow up after the speaker has broken in, sounds about 25% better after break in. Hard to describe except that it’s sensitive and clear and smooth. Can almost dime the tone knob on the guitar and not sound harsh at all

  • @TanksFaves
    @TanksFaves Жыл бұрын

    I really like the cream back, sounds more robust and rounded.

  • @danielcarter3928
    @danielcarter39282 жыл бұрын

    i like the greenback! smoother and more mellow

  • @Bobby_Digital37
    @Bobby_Digital37 Жыл бұрын

    Stock sounds great and the best in this combo 👍🏾

  • @koliguitar7298
    @koliguitar72983 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great friend

  • @danielwulf4241
    @danielwulf42412 жыл бұрын

    My favourite speaker is the creamback speaker.

  • @NicholasANappiNick
    @NicholasANappiNick2 жыл бұрын

    Stock sounds good to me!

  • @andrewguttry6886
    @andrewguttry68862 жыл бұрын

    I swapped out the Ten-30 for an old 10" Celestion Sidewinder (150W handling. 103dB efficiency). The difference was like night and day; gone was the fizzy distortion and the volume increase from the stock speaker at 95dB was huge. The stock speaker is 'ok' (and Celestion's cheapest!), but an upgrade really shows the amp's potential.

  • @southernrocker8485
    @southernrocker8485 Жыл бұрын

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think the stock speaker sounds the best on both cleans and overdrives? Robson64 thank you so much for taking time to document your experiences. I just bought this amp and it's sounds really good in person with my Les Paul and a delay in the loop. Won't be changing a thing.

  • @GNTRR
    @GNTRR3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great!! Thank you for sharing the cool guitar performance and sounds!! I enjoyed it and Like and Sub! Have a nice day! :D

  • @saikanishmedia7607
    @saikanishmedia76073 жыл бұрын

    Nice sharing frd look very nice

  • @johnotooledoggames2336
    @johnotooledoggames23363 жыл бұрын

    Hello from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪 very good video sharing 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎸

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am happy that you like it. Maybe it will be helpful. If you are intrrested how the DSL5 plays, I have some other films on my channel. Greetings.

  • @jefflaliberte6911
    @jefflaliberte6911 Жыл бұрын

    My 5C was a bit harsh and "ice-picky" on the clean channel. A Greenback improved the tones on both channels for my taste, totally a worthwhile upgrade

  • @user-jo4fe5fp3e
    @user-jo4fe5fp3eАй бұрын

    Stock speaker sounds best to my ears.

  • @jurgenroithmeier1209
    @jurgenroithmeier12093 жыл бұрын

    Nice Video ! My favourite is the Greenback, the Creamback sounds a little to high for me. 🤘✌

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    Eine Frage an dich, hat der Lautsprecher nach der Einspielzeit seinen Ton verändert? Ist es bemerkbar? Man sagt, dass diese Sachen eine Einspielzeit brauchen. Danke. LG.

  • @jurgenroithmeier1209

    @jurgenroithmeier1209

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 Ich finde schon. Er wird ein wenig geschmeidiger und der Klang löst sich etwas besser ab... er wird generell etwas runder... was sich aber Meiner meinung nach mehr auf das Empfinden als auf den Klang auswirkt. ✌

  • @nicolasbolattieberhardt1127

    @nicolasbolattieberhardt1127

    3 жыл бұрын

    Another greenbacks fan here but plis guys, speak un English. Ich kann ein bisschen deutsch sprechen :(

  • @rolandoo002

    @rolandoo002

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ich finde auch das der Greenback am besten klingt. Gefolgt vom Creamback und zuletzt der Stock Speaker

  • @rolandoo002

    @rolandoo002

    3 жыл бұрын

    Der Greenback hat den Standard-Rock Sound. Der Creamback klingt gut aber mehr nach moderner Musik (John Mayer etc.). Nach meinem Gehör.

  • @istvaniriel6559
    @istvaniriel65592 жыл бұрын

    CELESTION VT Junior is the best for me on this combo.

  • @Bcwilderness
    @Bcwilderness3 жыл бұрын

    greens rythym creams lead nice, ever tried a wgs alnico 10, gamechanger over them all

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not saying Speakers don't make a difference but other factors can contribute to Tone as well as you know Strings, pickups etc I purchased a new Fender Blues Junior IV Tweed amp 15 watts I study and practice and study and play Blues guitar and Blues music I have a Fender Mexican Stratocaster I purchased a set of Fender Hot Noiseless pickups with a Ibanez Sonic Distortion Mod This one thing just changing out stock pickups to Fender Hot Noiseless pickups made the Eminence Patriot Series Red White Blue American tone series Speaker come Alive Trying to compare all the different styles of Speakers on a fixed Budget is insane I listen to my best friend Michael who builds and repairs Amps and Guitars told me to Change out Pickups and get a reasonable priced Overdrive pedal some decent instrument cables and 10 guage strings This made the difference easier cheaper to do than trying out a ton of Speakers Simply Awesome Sounds great tone and picking dynamics and Bluesy gritty Greasy Blues guitar and Blues music

  • @dingusfuzzklonnkt2755

    @dingusfuzzklonnkt2755

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you're playing the blues rip the noiseless out install some pure vintage 60s and get a bluesbreaker circuit od like the snouse or morning glory. Your set-up is geared for iron maiden or hard rock. Noiseless coils suck the life out of an instrument, I unfortunately still have them in my elite Telecaster but not for long.

  • @metalocalypse2011

    @metalocalypse2011

    3 жыл бұрын

    Use a full stop or a comma or something!!!

  • @darkguitar4721
    @darkguitar47213 жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison mate, listened with studio monitors (HS7), every speaker sounds really different...I think that with this amp the creamback is the right choice! Maybe it still needs a bit of running in...but actually it seems to me the better sounding...just a question, why didn't you consider a v30?

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for comment . The Creamback is my favourite, too. I don' t know how much should I expect after running in. I didn' t take a v30 because of some opinions of the others.Have you sam experience with a v30? What can I expect? You are playing nice parts, I left some likes👍😊

  • @darkguitar4721

    @darkguitar4721

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 Thanks man! 🙏 Anyway I think in that amp would fit nicely a v30...I used them in some 4x12 cabinets and actually have on the Mesa Boogie Stiletto, you know for the mid frequencies of the Marshall tone and for the attack I would have chosen a v30 for your amp...try it if you can, your ears will tell you 🙃

  • @jurgenroithmeier1209

    @jurgenroithmeier1209

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darkguitar4721 i tried the v10 (the 10inch version of the v30) in my dsl5cr and there was not that much of a difference to the stock speaker. a little tighter and fuller bass and a little bit more bite to the sound... but still very metallic and kind of harsh. those two are a very fine option for this amp. either one of them will make you happy, its just a matter of preference. ✌🤘

  • @darkguitar4721

    @darkguitar4721

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jurgenroithmeier1209 Yeah man your ear will ever tell the truth 🙃 Never tried the V10, I cannot express myself about it 🤷‍♂️

  • @vintagetone22
    @vintagetone223 жыл бұрын

    Green back all the way.bro.

  • @Archartugan
    @Archartugan13 күн бұрын

    dla mnie Creamback i taki też mam w swoim DSL5CR

  • @sartorius9042
    @sartorius90423 жыл бұрын

    Oryginalny głośnik od piątki odzywa się dla mnie najlepiej.

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    A mógłbyś opisać gdzie zauważasz różnice ? Dzieki👍

  • @lkssatch
    @lkssatch3 жыл бұрын

    For clean sound i liked the stock one but with distortion it is the worst by far. I think i would choose the Greenback.

  • @thornwivans
    @thornwivans2 жыл бұрын

    NO Speaker-ing?

  • @markkosa1
    @markkosa13 жыл бұрын

    I put the Celestion VTjr in mine much improved over the stock. I also tried the Greenback and too buzzy for me...I still prefer my new Blackstar HT5 MKII

  • @crunchchannel8788

    @crunchchannel8788

    3 жыл бұрын

    in Combo? I am thorn between amps, but I haven't tried them live. Just researching to get one for room practice. I would like to get the blackster HT5 H, or this Marshall DSL5. have you compared them live?

  • @markkosa1

    @markkosa1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crunchchannel8788 Yes I own them both...Blackstar HT5MKII is far superior in volume, tone and variety of sounds. I will give you a deal on a my mint DSL5cr if interested. I just don't play it anymore..

  • @crunchchannel8788

    @crunchchannel8788

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markkosa1 Hi, Man. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Deffinetively I will now go and look for a Blackstar I can test myself. Thanks also for offering the deal, I will surely look for you if I decide the DSL5CR is the best option :)

  • @brzytownik
    @brzytownik3 жыл бұрын

    Odzywa się to u Ciebie bardzo dobrej jakości soundem, ale myślę, że oryginalny głośnik też jest bardzo dobry. Na różnych Celestionach grałem i generalnie te droższe mają lepsze basy, tyle że do gry w zespole nie są aż tak potrzebne, gdyż o tym, czy gitara przebija się przez bas, klawisze i druga gitarę decyduje właśnie dobra góra i tutaj 10 calowy Celestion Ten-30 gra bardzo dobrze.

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dokladnie, org.glosnik robi całkiem dobra figurę. Przypomina bardziej klasycznego marshalla,ktory charakteryzuje sie rozdartą srednica. Orgin. glosnik lepiej przebija sie w górnej srednicy i górnych częstotliwościach. Jest dynamiczniejszy w udezeniach w struny,ma wiecej tego Punch. Rozczarował mnie Greenback. Grał płytką,płaską barwą. O wiele lepiej zagrał Creamback. Dzwiek byl soczysty,z lekko wycofaną górna srednicą czytelna,czystą górą. Ale gdzieś troche tracil typowego Marshalla tonu. Trzeba tez wziasc pod uwage ze te dwa glosniki sa nowe i nierozegrane. Dlatego brakuje im troche w dzwieku pelniejszej barwy. Pogram przez nastepne dni na creambac zeby zobaczyc czy cos i na ile sie zmieni,polepszy. Greenback nie bedzie glosnikiem dla mnie w tej kombinacji.

  • @brzytownik

    @brzytownik

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 No nie wiem, czy głośniki w ogóle trzeba :rozgrywać"? Grają i już :)

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brzytownik głośniki nie rozegrane brzmią bardziej twardo i surowo. Naturalnie nie robi różnicy jak jak sie gra w grupie.

  • @KAUSIcovers

    @KAUSIcovers

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 macie rację, że stockowy brzmi nieźle. Dzieję się tak dlatego że ktoś to dobiera do kompletu, tak żeby brzmiało dobrze. Jakbyście ten głośnik podłaczyli do innego wzmaka to by się mogło okazać że jest niedobrze. Miałem kiedyś zestaw Marshalla Origin gdzie były sewenty 80. Brzmiało to super. Jak włączyłem tą kolumnę do Orange th30 to było do kitu. Zależy do czego się podłącza. Dla mnie greenback też nie brzmi źle na teście. No ale to są odczucia moje

  • @brzytownik

    @brzytownik

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 Powiem Ci, tyle lat gram i nie zauważyłem. Może jestem głuchy już?

  • @reaper3509
    @reaper35093 жыл бұрын

    I’m guessing this took a lot of time 2 make

  • @thornwivans

    @thornwivans

    2 жыл бұрын

    7min and 58 seconds

  • @Ben_the_Ignorant
    @Ben_the_Ignorant Жыл бұрын

    Creamback

  • @federicoloi4440
    @federicoloi4440 Жыл бұрын

    Stock speaker is best on clean tones, greenback sound bether on overdrive tones, my2c

  • @Alfonzo862
    @Alfonzo8623 жыл бұрын

    Robson64, Also ich mag auch den Orginal Speaker besser! Habe den vorhergehenden Dsl5c und ich denke dass der amp auch nach auswechseln mit verschiedenen Tubes ok ist aber ich denke so wie diese amps von Marshall kommen mit orginalen speaker und tubes sind sie immer noch am besten 100% Marshall tone. Gruesse von Australien.

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    Es ist genau so. Wenn Du das nicht alleine checkst, dann kannst du nur die Meinungen der anderen lesen. Die Leute schreiben, dass nach dem Wechsel gibt es massive Verbesserung. Meine Meinung nach das war eine Änderung im Klang, aber doch Verschlechterung in Dynamik, in Punch. Ich gebe zu, dass mit dem originalen Lautsprecher mehr nach dem Marshall klingt. Hast du Erfahrung mit den anderen Tubes? Irgendwann werden sie bei mir zum Austauschen, darum sammele ich die Informationen. Grüße aus Wien.

  • @Alfonzo862

    @Alfonzo862

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 Ja habe ich. Ich habe jetzt 3 Marshall ecc83 Weisse label tubes als pre amp tubes und eine Electro Harmonix 12BH7 Gold pin als power tube und hoert sich richtig gut nach Marshall an. Wie ich den Amp gekauft hatte waren 3 Genalex Gold Lion ecc83"s drin und die Electro Harmonix 12BH7 aber diese teueren Gold Lion tubes hatten sich duenn angehoert und nicht richtig nach Marshall! Ich hatte ein paar alte Marshall Ecc83 White label hatte sie reingemacht und bum totaler Marshall rock sound. Der verkaeufer vom amp hatte mir dann die orginalen tubes nachgeschickt und sie waren eine rote Label Marshall ecc83 in V1 was eine JJ tube ist und diese gefallen mir gar nicht weil sie sich dumpf anhoeren als wie mann eine Decke drueber haengt und in V2, 3 waren tatsaechlich 2 Marshall ecc83 white label tubes und die orginale power tube war eine Marshall Gold label 12Bh7 aber da weiss ich nicht genau nur vom nachlesen sollte es eine Tad 12Bh7A-str sein aber ich hatte eine Tad die sich etwas anders anhoert etwas weniger Bass im tone. Um mit den tubes herum zuspielen kosted auch ganz schoen etwa so wie speakers im ueberal price vergleich! Viele Leute schreiben viel wenn der tag lang ist auf diesen Vorums. Es ist wirklich so was dem einen gefaellt gefaellt dem anderen nicht so und daher die verschiedenen Meinungen und vergess nicht dass nicht jede Gitarre die pickups gleich eingestellt hatte auch wenns die gleiche Guitar war und dann kommt noch die String gauge and Brand of strings welches einen amp tone auch veraendern kann. Manchmal ist es billiger einen amp zu lassen wie er ist und halt mit der Gitarre ein bischen herumzuspielen Pickup hoehe und Strings und string gauge. Mit meinen Marshalls habe ich festgestellt dass wenn sie warm werden tubes und alles nach etwa einer halben stunde spielen hoeren sie sich am besten an als wenn sie kalt gespielt werden. Manche Kaufen sich so einen amp spielen ihn fuer 5 oder 10 Minuten und meinen dann da muss dran herumgeschraubt werden ohne damit etwas mehr Zeit zu verbringengen. Der mir den amp verkauft hatte hatte einen 12 zoll Grenn Back drin und nahm ihn wieder heraus weil er zu bright klang! Enjoy your amp the way it came from Marshall.

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Alfonzo862 Vielen Dank für Deine Beschreibung. Deine Erfahrungen sind mir sehr wichtig, so kann ich das Geld und Ärger sparen. Also, wenn ich einen originalen Marshall sound haben möchte, soll ich die original ecc83 White Label nehmen, ja? Ich habe nicht genau verstanden, welche power tube soll ich nehmen? Welche klingt am besten als voller Marshall sound? Danke schön.

  • @Alfonzo862

    @Alfonzo862

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 die Electro Harmonix 12BH7 Gold heisst die power tube und die hat gold pins. Die orginale Marshall 12bh7 ist auch ok. Die pre amp tubes are Marshall white label ecc83

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Alfonzo862 Vielen Dank für die Info. Ich werde mir für die Zukunft merken in welche Richtung ich suchen soll . Grüße.

  • @KAUSIcovers
    @KAUSIcovers3 жыл бұрын

    A co to jest za strat i jakie ma pickupy?

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    Czesc! Made in Mex. Single ceramiki ,Humbucker Fender atomic. Ten humbucker mi sie podoba ma duzo dolu i wintage góre. W porównaniu do do innych gitar ten strat ma wiecej miecha na, niz moje inne moje gitary. Single nie maja tego typowego dzwonkowego brzmienia,ale na mój gust jest ok.

  • @KAUSIcovers

    @KAUSIcovers

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 tak jest super na przesterze. Ja lubię pickupy texas special. Mam je w tym kremowym stracie i w tym tele mojej produkcji. One też super grają na przesterach. W tym czarnym stracie mam custom shop 69 i już tak nie grają. Musiałem wstawić w pozycji mostkowej minihumbuckera seymor jb. Teraz jest oki.

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KAUSIcovers powiedz co ci nie pasowało w 69? Czy tylko pod mostkiem? Ja go kupilem pod gryf,ale wsadziłem z powrotem ceramika. Jak oceniasz JB wersja singiel? Jezeli wpadnie mi jakies tele okazyjnie to bym myslal nad czyms mocniejszym.

  • @KAUSIcovers

    @KAUSIcovers

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robson6491 69 są super w czystej barwie. Gryfowy i środkowy spełniają zadanie. W przesterze pod mostem 69 ma jakby mniej harmonicznych jest bardziej harczący niż np. Texas special, który jest stworzony do przesteru. Włożyłem humba jb pod most z ciekawości. Spełnia moje oczekiwania w 100%. Jest bardziej łagodny niż np. Typowy duży humbucker. Na czystej idzie raczej w kirunku singla. Generalnie polecam jb, tylko zaznaczam że nie jest on stworzony do mocno przesterowanych barw.

  • @robson6491

    @robson6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KAUSIcovers Fajnie pogadac z toba i wymienic doswiadczenia. Tez chetnie to robie. Mam juz w jednej gitarze, tej zielonej JB i Sh1 jest Ok. Uszczesliwia miliony ludzi i ja tez nie mam powodu do stekania. Ja lubie bardziej gorące PU pod mostkiem,lepiej to ze mna gada.

  • @lazyguy3555
    @lazyguy3555 Жыл бұрын

    I'm shocked. The Greenback and the Creamback sound terrible. I was seriously considering one of these for my DSL5CR, but the stock speaker sounds so much better.

  • @martinlahaie6012
    @martinlahaie60123 жыл бұрын

    What I have found...is that the stock speaker in those amps are almost always the best fit....money wasted most of the time ....the engineers at Marshall spends a long time trying things up and then go...that's the one..

  • @istvaniriel6559

    @istvaniriel6559

    2 жыл бұрын

    Marshall puts a cheap speaker into a cheap combo. Nothing more.

  • @natemoore6760

    @natemoore6760

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@istvaniriel6559 don’t forget the 10-30 is also used by fender in princetons, a decidedly less cheap amp

  • @silverstaralchemist

    @silverstaralchemist

    2 жыл бұрын

    I found the Ten 30 to be really scooped and thin-sounding (good for genres like metal since it's tight) compared to the G10 Creamback in my DSL5C. I did a comparison on my channel if you want to hear yourself. 👍🏼

  • @FreeUrMindz

    @FreeUrMindz

    2 ай бұрын

    Incorrect. Its a price thing mixed with sound. There are almost always better speaker options. For instance many people put cream backs, neo creams, or a few other options and are much happier with their Marshall amps. Marshall often cheapes out on their speaker selection where fender and Vox tend to spend more on speakers and is often the real reason people and prefer that "fender" sound when in actuality it's the speaker that often mostly dictates an amps sound. It highly affects the clean sound and also when the breakup happens early or later and upgrading gets rid of the annoying thin fizzy sound these amps get when eq isn't totally dialed it...but then you have limitations on sound when trying to dial away that fizzy.

  • @user-lw9py
    @user-lw9py2 жыл бұрын

    you have too much gain. try gain in dirty channel at 11 o clock. treble 14 o clock then with orignal speaker sound great as marshall and not fizzy. also good is when you reduce tone control on your guitar to 5. but i hear that the greenbag sound not so harsh but maybe with my settings too dull. your position before a window is also not good. because the backside output sound too and the glass reflect high freq hard