MARSHALL COMPARISON: 1959HW Super Lead Plexi vs JCM800 2203
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Comparing my 100% all original 1959HW Plexi from 2023 to my Marshall JCM800 2203 from 1984 aka The Bad Boy and my JCM800 2203 from 1985 aka The Little Brother. All amps with and without BOSS SD-1 Super Overdrive.
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Timecodes:
- Intro & general info: 0:00
- The gear, signal chain & amp settings: 0:28
- Amps with SD-1: 4:18
- Amps without SD-1: 7:39
- Amps with SD-1: 11:00
- Conclusion: 12:03
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1959HW PLEXI. For the win here. That is the most important tone. Thanks for sharing.
Since I am a metal guy, the Jcm 800 is the clear winner for me!!
You may be a rocker, but you've got soul and thanks for inviting us into your laboratory. 👍
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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I like all 3. You really know how to get the best out of any of these Marshalls.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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Idk man I don’t think I’ve ever heard an 800 sound like the bad boy. That thing is special
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
It is.
Was playing a lot more with my Jim's 800 pedal but now I am inspired to play my actual JCM800 tube amp again. Thanks :)
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Rock on!
Each of them was great on its own! There's no other choice than giving all of them a proper home. I noticed the 1987 left the line-up.
Bad Boy ftw. It's those 6550s. They're brutal glass grenades of metal. Have you considered doing a demo of a modern clean boost like the Fortin Blade? Would love to see how that works with your variety of amps.
Great shootout. I've found your Marshall videos super useful. Great playing. I felt the 1959HW Plexi clearly won when played with the SD-1. But SD-1 tones don't do that much for me - but it did sound great with the 1959HW Plexi. The overall winner for me was the JCM800 2203 ('Little Brother'). Sounded best of the bunch without the SD-1, and sounded good with it (close second to the Plex). Here I have the JTM, (and Vox AC15 & AC30). But if, or rather when, I was buy another Marshall ... it would be the JCM. It's not only metal the JCM800 excels at. They are all over indie rock records too. Like at 10:50 area, that was Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden and many others. Or My Bloody Valentine before that.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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It always comes back to the bad boy, but this time I really prefer the 1959 ! The first time !
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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Conclusion, the bad boy 💪🤘🏼 Great riffs as always
Excelente review Eugenio saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱🍻🤘🏻
Cool comparison. I currently own the DSL20 head and I’m going through a 2x12 with Veteran 30s. I can get super saturated gain at “reasonable” levels and that 80s metal/Whitesnake 1987 sound that I love. I’m also using a BOSS SD-1.
I have a couple of 2203s, but I like the openness of the 59HW
Great tones
I agree you have to have both. Nice review.
Dammmn, the plexy seems much clear/ pristine, to my ears 😮
Awesome video, the plexi was right there with your badboy! But slightly different! Amazing demo, makes you want to add a plexiglass to anyone’s collection.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
It's hard to choose between SLP1959 and JCM800 'cos each of them both have its personal voice. 1959 is biting and sparkling, 800 is raw full sounding. I would choose both.
That's great thanks! They are not too far from each other sound wise. But those 800 has more kick and more direct punch. Great amps.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Indeed 👌🎶.
1984. Unreal. The Plexi is exactly as you described and absolutely sweet. I’m really starting to GAS for one!
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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If you want to cover them all, then a Synergy SYN-2 (or pair of SYN-1s, your choice) with the Synergy Plexi and 800 preamp modules is a good start; the red channel of the 800 module adds at least one valve gain stage for a generic, but fun, "modded 800" option without diode clipping.
Every time I start thinking about more modern amps one of Euge's videos pops up and it turns into plexi vs 800 argument in my head. Marshall might be kind of a mess as a company right now but that's still the sound of heavy music for me.
Hi euge, great video as always. Plexi wins hands down. Bigger mids and way clearer. Way more balanced.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks!
Thanks Euge for the comparison. Killer as always. 1959 HW most open sounding of the 3. I will buy the 1959. But i play mostly Blues and stuff ala Malmsteen, Satch. All 3 killer amps but i find the 1959 the most versatile of the bunch.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
You’re welcome thanks!
Love these vids
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear! Thanks!
The Bad Boy is hands down the best sounding amp I've ever heard. Incredible tone!
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
It’s quite special indeed 👊.
I’m gravitating towards the bad boy and the little brother 😜, although they all sound amazing.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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The "Bad Boy" is something special......
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
It is
as typical, I prefered the Plexi for lead and the 800 for rhythm
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Works great! That’s the setup I used on many songs on my forthcoming album 👌.
Little brother for the win on this one
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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Loved this video! I have to go with The Bad Boy ... I have to ask though, were you tuned to drop Db and what is the story with the red line on the face of the SD-1 #2?
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes. Just some paint from somewhere. Can’t remember since it’s been there since 90s I think 😎.
@richardpryor2981
2 ай бұрын
@@EugeValovirta230VNow that you own a 1959, how does it compare to the 1987x? Which one do you prefer?
@EugeValovirta230V
2 ай бұрын
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@richardpryor2981
2 ай бұрын
@@EugeValovirta230V Thanks! Is using the variac harmful to the 1959 using it at that voltage?
@EugeValovirta230V
2 ай бұрын
I’ve been using Variac for years and I haven’t noticed it doing harm to my Plexis.
Also what brand variac are you using for the 100 w
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
It’s custom made by my friend & amp tech.
Bad boy is so hard to beat...
both amps sound awesome,but i prefer the Bad Boy
Now stereo them without the pedal!
In this comparison I liked the "Little brother" best, it had clearer mids and the bass was started to rattle my desk, unlike the "Bad boy". Then I liked the fullness and the little darker sound (like Black Sabbath) of the 1959HW and the "Bad boy" was last, sorry Euge! Nice video, as always!
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There really is something different with the bad boy.
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
Yep
Plexi Definitely sounds warmer, the other 2 sound like each other, very brittle
6550 power tubes BAD BOY WINS WITCH BRAND TUBES ARE YOU USING IN BADDEST BOY ON PLANET ?(TNT) LOL IS THERE A PREFERENCE PREFERENCE AND WHY PS. YOU SIR RULE IN SO MANY WAYS OF COOLNESS 👌🏻👍🏻✌🏻
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
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@danielcordovado8230
4 ай бұрын
What brand of tube do you prefer 6550 ? And thanks for responding u coolest mon@EugeValovirta230V
@EugeValovirta230V
4 ай бұрын
I have JJs on all of my amps; 6550, EL34, 6L6, 12AX7/ECC83 👌
Borrow a new DSL100HR and compare new amp style vs old jcm amp style