This review is better than the entire movie of Meet the Spartans.

"Are you saying it's a homoerotic film...?" *YES*

This film is a meaty beast. Doesnt have to be all deep and thought provoking. Sometimes you just need some muscles and ultraviolence. Magic.

@ryananon779

Ай бұрын

One of my favourites.

The film captures the feeling of an Axe commercial made by gay robots.

when Leonidas called Xerxes ''divine'' then I lost any of the remaining doubt that this movie really was what Kermode said about it...

Kermode was right. This was way funnier than watching Meet The Spartans.

I like the way Simon Mayo says "homoerotic" at 3:10

I had fun watching this film that's all I can think of it.

Why is it that so many people criticise 300 for being historically inaccurate when it's an adaptation of the graphic novel of the same name by Frank Miller? Criticising 300 for being historically inaccurate is like criticising Jurassic Park because it doesn't have any woolly mammoths in it.

@garymitchell5899

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It isn't supposed to be a documentary.

Thanks for uploading 🙏🏼

"They look like they've just come out of The Mineshaft on Christopher Street, in New York, after a hard night clubbing at an Alter Silvester" - 'Meet the Spartans' could never touch this.

@Slave2Reason Even though 99% of the listeners are there to hear Mark and not him, Simon Mayo is VERY necessary to the successful dynamic of the show and if he wasn't there it would be an absolute mess. If you think of the show as comedy (and I do, as it makes me laugh near constantly) then Mayo is the straight-man of their double act - the Jeeves to Mark's Wooster, if you will. He provides a much-needed balance to Kermy's more-than-occasional bouts of hysterical lunacy. He's way underrated.

Just a tiny correction. In the movie the spartans didn't accuse the Persians of being boy lovers but the athenians. Mark is still right tho. Both where in fact very much into that

Did anyone watching this film have an awkward moment where you realise "this film is asking me to cheer on a bunch of guys who throw weak children off cliffs and have their children beat each other to a pulp. And I can't do that"? And if I remember right, the Spartans despised the Athenians' wishy-washy democracy, and when they eventually conquered them (temporarily) they installed the Thirty Tyrants to rule the place.

Cool always wanted to hear this .

Kermode and Mayo are a funny duo, mate

"come over here and say that in our pouches"

My friends invited me along to watch this when it was released, I had spent the time between my the end of shift at work and the film's opening in a bar. I found the overt homoeroticism hilariously funny but I'm not sure if anyone of them had actually cottoned onto it at the time.

@booyahboyuk

9 жыл бұрын

I felt like I was watching a highly stylised version of WWE wrestling to be honest. Maybe I should give it another go.

@booyahboyuk

9 жыл бұрын

It's totally right wing, the kind of film the Gestapo would love to hear the kids discussing. Awful.

@booyahboyuk

9 жыл бұрын

Ask a Glaswesgian who I am ....... 3:)

Perfect

I’m sure Mark ate his words about Lena Headley after Game of thrones came out

Not gonna lie. I love the movie partially bcos im a comic fan, partially bcos im an action fan, partially bcos im greek and partially bcos hell, I like a bit of unabashful machismo every so often. Of course you wanna talk historical accuracy...well...don't. its an adaptation of a comic, inspired by a hollywood film loosly based upon a historical event

I liked Watchmen, but only after I read up about what it was trying to say. Sucker punch blew my mind when i watched it in the cinema. But then the ketamine started to wear off and the film started to suck really bad.

Thanks for uploading. He does undermine the political undertones of the movie though, since Frank Miller is pretty open about his contempt for all things Middle Eastern.

I think 300 captured the feeling of the spartans (and around 6700 other greeks or so) fighting for their freedom, or fighting to slow the persians down by a week or so. I felt bad when Leonidas was killed and I felt good when they ran past the camera at the end screaming for freedom. I reckon the spartans would've liked it.

Turned out to be the apex of Snyder's career

@Vebinz Here's my top 5 Frank Miller books,just for the hell of it! 1.Give me liberty(art by Dave Gibbons,an overlooked gem) 2.Ronin 3.Sin City(vol1-6) 4.Daredevil(series) 5.Batman-Dark night returns

When was the squeaky (Zack Snyder) voice born huh?

@Slave2Reason I disagree, I think Simon Mayo is a great foil to Kermode. In his intentional obtuseness, he brings out the best in Mark and often forces him back on point when Mark starts building up too much steam. I do think he can lay it on a bit thick at times, but that said I think they are a good pairing.

It's amazing that film with so much violence is so damn boring!

I'm waiting for a movie treatment of Steven Pressfield's "The Hot Gates", which is a much more serious look at the same subject. That said, I did enjoy the graphic novel.

ZAK SNYDER!

That and the historical fact that Persians did regard their kings as divine.

@socillizt4life I agree with you, though looking back (and with re-reading) i found out that "Dark Knight Returns" is way over-rated and actually not very good at all (lamp post-powered bat-suit > Superman????). But all the respect for him for his work on Daredevil and Ronin though.

I'm glad he said abs, instead of something else

The movie has nothing to say about history and nor should it. It's a movie based on a comic book, based on Greek propaganda. The movie is a tongue and cheek action movie epic. That's it. That's all it should be. The movie has no responsibility to historical accuracy. Also the ancient Greeks fought in the nude....soooooooo

@socillizt4life Good list (the top four atleast). I remember years ago he was at a comic shop for a book signing and I went there and got my "Batman Year One" signed, and I recall my friend jokingly telling me to ask Miller about 'Robocop 2". Anyway, a god writer, or atleast used to be, but not in Moore's league as many assert.

Watched this with a mate at Manchester Printworks Imax. When we left I said 'I need a piss', he said 'I 'm going looking for a fight'. A proper night out as we say up North!

I wonder if this reading of 300 stands up after reading Millers blog post about the Occupy Movement...

Ah the good old days before Sony and numerous “takes”.

my ancient history teacher pronounces it as thermopyl(ee)

@Vebinz 'Miller isn't just a man with contemt for the Middle East,as much as I love Millers best work(daredevil,ronin,sin city,batman returns,year 1 & so on)he is a racist against the people of the middle east!Kermode is right about 300 being 1 the most homoerotic films ever!Snyder is doing a gr8 job of turning some of the gr8est comic books into throw away films.Watchmen shouldn't have even have been attemted as film,it's 1 of the rare works that can only be done properly in as a graphic novel!

@lickmylovepump12 Dead Poets' Society was homoerotic?

@prooc What?

@Vebinz ;lol,yeah I remember the 1st time I got to that part of 'returns,all they years ago & thinking get the f**k outta here,a lamppost would struggle to recharge a car battery,lol,but green arrow did hit superman with the synthetic kriptonite,so the S wasn't in good health,but yeah pretty stupid part of the book.It's still a gr8 batman book IMO,but nowhere near as good as some would have you believe.In some ways I prefer the satirical humour & deliberate OTT'ness of 'strikes back.

and yet it doesn't surprise me, having now read it all, that Transformers2themax is involved it....

YA RLY

I was in the target audience for this film. I saw it in the cinema and quite liked it, - I was not aware of the graphic novel, although i was [somewhat] aware of Frank Miller's work at the time. However, I saw it again when it came out on dvd and in the time period between the cinema and dvd release I don't know what happened beause I found it really boring and the visual style wasn't as cool and inventive as I first thought. That said I wouldn't call it a terrible film, just....meh :)

@Hyman74Roth When I say over the top, I mostly mean how he objects to stuff like his Fred imitation though I never want Simon to slow down Mark's Danny Dyer voice. I guess I just think Simon does a naive act that fits well with Kermode's passion. Furthermore, I must say that you shouldn't post such short and internety responses as "Kermode's partner is worthless" when your rebutal to me is 97208750 times more thoughtful and interesting. Do it for the 1%!

3:19 Err, Mark, Leonidas clearly called the ATHENIANS boy-lovers, not the Persians!

Lena Headey is great in this film.

@Onmysheet

2 жыл бұрын

Eva Green is much better in the sequel.

@rowanc88

2 жыл бұрын

@@Onmysheet True

the film was epic. its a comic book movie.

Personally I thought it worked very well precisely as what it claims to be - a pastiche telling of the Thermopile story. If you want to set up false arguments about it which can't be sustained then so what?

Never heard so much jealous gabbling........

I got stick for hating this film... and I hated it even more after 300 Spartans which is even worse. If this film and Zach Snyder had never existed, we would never have those two films. I mean how can you get films like these WRONG? I mean Friedberg and Seltzer have a completely different thing about "wrong".

The film’s characters, depiction of Persians & length in parts is unlikable & long, however the film’s A well acted, well directed, stylish, well written & effective war film. (65%) (3/5 stars) (mixed to positive)

I think it is proto fascist. A huge point is made of the fact they only have a problem dealing with the Persians, because one of the Spartans rescues his disabled son from his state mandated death. Also the whole war can be averted if one of the Greeks simply takes the knee to the Persian leader, who is black(not sure how historically accurate his ethnicity is) so race and disability play big parts in what passes for a story in this movie. I've seen some terrible movies in my time, but this is pretty much the worst.

It takes one to know one

@markymarkzero

3 ай бұрын

Are you seven years old?

Yeh it’s a rubish load of all bollocks

8 minutes of waffle about abs, but nothing about "is it any good " That's your job,Mark.!!

Stupid movie, it's just a sausage fest.

When I watched this film I found NOTHING 'Homoerotic' about it in the slightest. The people bashing the film for being just that are prob half gay themselves. Men showing their chests does NOT make a film 'Homoerotic'. It's just a bloody, fun, good looking, action film. It's nothing more, nothing less.

@MagikGimp

7 жыл бұрын

But you look so manly in those shades, wink

worst review ever! someone is jealous of the physical prowess on show here 😆

@degsbabe

5 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. Two Nancy boys having a jealous pop at a great movie. No doubt after the show they both rub oil into each others ego pecks & abs.

@stealmysunshine

5 жыл бұрын

Also the actors in 300 can say "and" correctly unlike Mark kermode

This isn't a review. Try harder, try again.