I feel like if I tried this I'd end up on some community watch list

@cameraman655

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, you likely would. I personally have very mixed feelings about Mark and Bruce Gilden's techniques, Gilden being far more aggressive and confrontational. Needless to say that these videos made in the 80s, the world was a very different place. I am much more a fan of Winogrand and Bresson's non-confrontational style of shooting.

@cyrfung

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think we can follow a young girl and take a close-up shot of her legs in modern times anymore without getting a "FBI open up".

@river3808

3 жыл бұрын

I already am on it. The cops enjoy going to my exhibits

@DavidBrown-zp5br

3 жыл бұрын

You do this in LA you’ll end up in a body bag

@phabio7839

3 жыл бұрын

Don't even try this in Europe. You'd end up in jail with bruises all over your body if you try that in a southern European country and a missing limb if you try that in a Eastern European country.

@ 2:20 What an absolute master. Arms folded to conceal camera, gets INCHES from the guy and the guy still oblivious. Takes the photo and it's all over in 3 seconds. He and Gary Winogrand knew the "extra" social part of it. There's a scene in Winogrand's segment of this where he's trying to photograph a gentleman and the gentleman notices and seems confused. Winogrand just plays with his camera like he has no idea what he's doing and looking beyond the guy. Check it out, it's really amazing to see them handle these kinds of situations to avoid confrontation.

Gosh. You could never get away with this in todays age. It’s literally FASCINATING watching how nonchalant the people being photographed are. Just a quick “what the heck? Oh… carry on” 😍❤️

@GPTMagana

10 ай бұрын

@streetnuggets_ paranoia, "invasion of privacy", toxic positivity, political correctness. I hate these

@jb.photography

10 ай бұрын

Many still do this today. Look up Bruce Gilden, or newer photographers like Trevor Wisecup. Most people still don’t care too much about it, in my experience. I don’t use flash but i do tend to get close lately.

@kelechi_77

8 ай бұрын

@streetnuggets_ The rise of social media, internet, iphone... etc. Has made it a very real fear for some random guy to take a picture of you, the first thought is "where is he going to post that? Why did he take a picture of me?" Doing this in the '60s-90s was not as big of a deal as today, there might even be laws passed to stop this kind of street photography as some deem it unethical. I started doing street photography when I lived in the UK, but in my home in Spain, it's legal for me to be arrested for doing so.

@gothamindembaum

3 ай бұрын

The F you can't, you sure as hell can do this today especially in places like NYC.

@Adrian-wd4rn

14 күн бұрын

@@jb.photography Trevor wisecup is almost terrified of doing it, judging by how frail he is, it's no wonder he's always out with an entourage. His photos are also fairly lifeless. He uses flash from like 6-8 feet away which makes everything look flat and boring.

the guy gets some good images for sure but i just cant get over how its executed

@shahn78

6 жыл бұрын

His body language after taking the shot is so creeeeepy

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind a lot of these photographs were taken in the 1970s and 1980s

@Robert063

2 күн бұрын

@@shahn78 nothing about this mans "body language" is creepy... I think you just have weird fantasies about this man in your brain at night pal...

omg so this is how awkward and weird it gets behind great street photos

The Michael Scott energy he gives off is beautiful.

street is the best. street takes a lot of skill..street takes balls, courage, knowing your camera like the back of your hand....observe, question, think, act, be hidden, be in the moment, slow down, listen to the environment, the smells...everything....composing a shot on the fly and using the surrounding environemnt as a frame...street photography is bliss...

@yeahhayhay

5 жыл бұрын

Its even harder when you add "not being a dickhead" to the mix. Something, the Cohens and Gildens tend to bother too much about.

@pizzakarton468

3 жыл бұрын

hrm, maybe it was in the 20th century, in 21th century i rarly see street photograhpy in which the photographer archives to catch something substantial. the rise of media society / smartphones / social media / digital photography changed how peopel look at photographs and how people act towards photographers.

@ericjamesphotography

3 жыл бұрын

This dude is acting like a creep. Get off your pretentious high horse.

@combatveteran240

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericjamesphotography ?

@reach831

3 жыл бұрын

street takes no skill. Just like portraiture or landscapes takes no skill. It’s the ability to see with your eyes and be able to match that with the click of the shutter that takes skills

I love photography and taking pictures, though, in my opinion, there’s a limit as to how much personal space there should be done when getting in people’s faces

@cientz5419

3 жыл бұрын

Same, its complicated

@alexsaenz7429

3 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree with you, it made my hairs stand up just watching this, haha. But As a fellow photographer/artist, i do respect the evasive style he does. It definitely gives you this weird reaction to see him behind the camera, but the final product is even more beautiful.

@ameliahiam9110

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexsaenz7429 I take these evasive style photos on digital but I use a 70-300 lens so the shots are take from afar - u get the same evasive affect without the worry of someone coming at you - some beautiful shots are captured you get the odd look but people don’t tend to care - if u have a “proper” camera it’s far less sketchy than using a phone like my teacher asks us to do at times that makes me fell wierd ahahah

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

It’s complicated and subjective , but at the end of the day; these are great photographs

@MJL7557

Жыл бұрын

@@ameliahiam9110 Amelia, you're actually being more creepy by using a telephoto lens.

1:18 "I'm gonna do the girl against the wall" uhhhhhhhh

@nickfanzo

4 жыл бұрын

Jamal l'Friedchicken smart guy

That was funny as hell at 3:17 where he made an image of the worker with his back turned. He was lucky the dude didn't punch him!

does he ever get punched in the face for flashing strangers unexpectedly?

@FK-we1dp

3 жыл бұрын

if he did this shit to blacks he would.

@Smaug1

3 жыл бұрын

@@JimBarcelona In Chicago, it would not be enforced. Police have bigger fish to fry. They let you sit in the station all day waiting until you give up and go home. Result is that he could have his butt kicked and the person would get away with assault.

@oinkooink

3 жыл бұрын

@@Smaug1 Oh yeah? What are they busy arresting the scumbags and criminals behind the current world "health" "scare" and returning peasant rights to breath oxygen, travel freely and maintain sentient individual sovereignty?

@shaqjacobss

3 жыл бұрын

@@oinkooink 😭😭

@Riverrockphotos

2 жыл бұрын

Well since the photographer is doing nothing illegal and the puncher is I doubt it. I mean think about it is it worth going to jail over a picture?

Imagine if he did this in the hood. LMAO

@pankakotakismegalomavropou3355

3 жыл бұрын

Aye yo cuz for real bruh

@TWCH

3 жыл бұрын

Got that right.

@omnirhythm

2 жыл бұрын

@@JimBarcelona Travis Jensen's most look consentual, a number of them even posed and with him guiding the subjects. This guy just straight up gets a camera and flash in your face and walks away. Pretty much asking for a sucker punch.

@Jimarxv

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@miamitten1123

2 жыл бұрын

They would laugh and pose. What makes you think a white suburb is more safe? Probably get shot by NRA member.

Wow ! So nice to see the ancestor of Bruce Gilden working !

@bearhuggz22

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing!!

I kept waiting for a clip where he says, “It rubs the lotion on its skin...”

@scottca9780

3 жыл бұрын

...or it gets the flash again.

@GhostPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

😂👌

@pankakotakismegalomavropou3355

3 жыл бұрын

Noticed how when he talks about the sexual nature of his photographs the screen shows a child and he immediately transitions to children. Cohen, Epstein, Weinstein... they like em young.

@oinkooink

3 жыл бұрын

@@pankakotakismegalomavropou3355 Be careful man you'll have a SWAT team on your doorstep arresting you for being anti simiticicicicic

4:13 : COOL IT GETS MORE WEIRDER

yes, it's aggressive and disrespectful. don't forget, please, that it's a file footage from the 80's and that sometimes artists invented their own way of working, their favorite tools.this style it's not for everybody, except bruce gilden i don't know anyone else to use it today. and he couldn't use it, say, in berlin. to each artist, his own method, ideally.

@hndb1993

8 жыл бұрын

+Liviu Cristian (Embassy-of-toy-soldier) every street photographer still does this, only without flash, i think in 90% of the people that stands on photo's made by street photographers don't know they are on that picture.

@MrMadvillan

6 жыл бұрын

what about wiktoria wojciechowska's short flash. or Óscar Monzón shots of cars. theyve both innovated on the same impulse to impressive effect. I'm sure there are more but you'll have to do your own home work.

@modernsunsets369

5 жыл бұрын

i know 5 people (all on IG & Flickr) in my city who do it daily.

@maxf.8999

2 жыл бұрын

i’ve done it without any issues in Berlin 🤷‍♂️ just be nice and honest about it if they approach you

BEAUTIFUL

Courageous guy. Great photos.

amazing footage ypu ve got thanks!!

What a madlad. Respect

he flashes to his hearts content

Fantastic! Wanna see all of it!

@TheHighermonkey

7 жыл бұрын

Gary winogrand

2:30 : CREEEPEEEEEEPY

@Seeattle

4 жыл бұрын

MuiBueno yo at least say thank you to the guy 😂

As he mentioned, it's a privacy invasion. What makes it work is that it's ultimately harmless and victimless, neither of which would benefit from explanation if it came to that. I once attended an outdoor craft faire and took a quick image of products on a vendor table. Wow, was that ever a mistake. I was accused of wanting to use my image of their product to sell my own products, as if I couldn't take pictures of my OWN products. People are nutty. I felt like saying, "If you only knew how bad my images turn out, you would realize I'm no threat to you."

@GPTMagana

3 ай бұрын

In my opinion, these vendors might come across as a small business. Found in farmers, night, and flea markets. It's their copyright protection of their products, branding, mediums, and their logo that can get us sketchy. Especially if the vendor doesn't know the (male) street photographer. It's not your fault for not knowing their small business vendor at the craft fair or night markets. ps I do try to ask permission in a small town night market and farmer market when I want a more direct image of their vendor. While providing myself what I do in town and city making some pictures. I may not agree with asking permission if I intend of photographing like that Bloke Mark or Garry Winogrand. And even striking for street or time for print (TfP) portraits than a traditional form of street photography. Ergo, that no longer becomes the "Mark Cohen" approach.

honestly, i love this fucking weirdo.

What an amazing time in photography. What a simple time. I love all the old cars on the street!!! If you started randomly doing photos like this today you might get punched 😮

@ioga1977

3 жыл бұрын

You WILL BE punched !

@bqfilms

Жыл бұрын

There's a video of matt weber doing an interview a couple of weeks ago, he saids back in the 80's it was harder, now ppl care less.

It looks like your doing an upskirt half way through! 4:03

hit(shoot) and run!!! I don't think I could ever be so bold but I also don't think this style of street photography might be appreciated by the public. Who knows, I may give it a try some day...

@henryrogers5500

2 жыл бұрын

It won’t work in today’s day and age. The world has changed significantly.

Great photography

incredible

That‘s crazy how the way you make your photos is more “important” than the actual photos you’ve made. People are missing the point of what photography is.

@ines8384

2 жыл бұрын

I do not agree with you, art can be very conceptual and the thought and making of it can be so much more beautiful or interesting than the final result. I love knowing how an artwork is made instead of just looking at it. Art is not just a beautiful or a great thing to look at, the essence is so much more. And its the same with photography

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

His art is very good. You are just expressing your subjective taste

just imagine him shooting a wedding! ''Honey, do you think we need to hire some sort of entertaining at the venue? Nah we have Cohen!''

Golden age of street photography

@henryrogers5500

2 жыл бұрын

Lui, you’ve lowered the bar for crap. Cohen’s photography isn’t the “Golden Age” of anything. This man was a rude, obnoxious slob. Period!

HI everybody! Does someone know what flash unit he uses in this video? I'm looking for a flash that would fit my Leica m6, a small one like this? Can someone help me, cause I've been on it for a while now... Thanks!

I think that fear for being punched if you try this way of street photography is something from these days. We've reached a point in which everyone will feel touched and surely offended for this type of interactions. 70's and 80's were amazing times for street photo indeed.

@PhilippLenssen

3 жыл бұрын

Depending on which country you live in, it's also illegal to make such close-up portraits (even in public). E.g. here in Germany it is.

@jehandelange6266

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilippLenssen lots of things are illegal in lots of places.

@PhilippLenssen

3 жыл бұрын

@@jehandelange6266 Absolutely.

@maxf.8999

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhilippLenssen it’s not illegal to take the photos just publishing is a grey area

@PhilippLenssen

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxf.8999 In Germany, to quote from a law article, "Even just taking a picture of a person requires permission, even if you don't intend to publish that picture in any way." (If you find specific law texts that prove this wrong, I'm happy to hear, as I'm a photographer and would enjoy for the law to be different.)

'Trespass their space' - says it all.

Could you upload the part about Ralph Gibson, please ?

THIS IS WHAT PAULIE B IS DOING WITH HIS KZread CHANNEL. HE IS BRINING THIS STYLE BACK VIA HIS INTERVIEWS

@GPTMagana

5 ай бұрын

Walkie Talkie time!

@CianMcsweeney

Ай бұрын

Paulie B is less creepy about it though at least, and he actually has a proper social interaction with his subjects

Different times we live in.

I’ve watched this a few time times now and can’t get past his technique? If someone were to try this today they would get chased down the street - unfortunately it detracts from what can be learned because you cringe at how he approaches his next subject, and then pounces on them. I’m trying to focus on composition, and subject matter, but man...I’m waiting for the cops to show up at any moment.

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

People do the same thing today, you’re just scared and they aren’t

Pioneer of Bruce Gilden style?

@MrSakker

8 жыл бұрын

But not as good as bruce gilden

@WaywardAce

6 жыл бұрын

Gilden is better ... he at least tries to frame ..... Gilden style was pioneered by WeeGee

Definition of point and shoot

mark and bruce style of photography is called COJONES street photography

3:24 WOW, this guy has got balls.

@michaelangelo0305

3 жыл бұрын

balls ? more like no respect ... i know it were different times man but cmon ... holding a flashy thing 10 cm from someones face without saying a word and then hopping away like a pervert...no thanks

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelangelo0305 no privacy in public

@CianMcsweeney

Ай бұрын

​@@nickfanzolegally yes you're right, still doesn't mean you're not an asshole for doing it

Can anyone tell me what flash he uses?

Watch Mark Cohen - Dark Knees. He's 73 in the video, doing the same thing and seems pretty fine to me lol...

Anyone know what kind of camera this video was filmed on?

lol, this would get you a quick trip to the ER today.

There is no “social interaction”. I can’t find in this photo action.

These days he would be arrested for suspected "upskirting" lol

@whispercafe1515

3 жыл бұрын

"Sorry, iwas just relally interested in your knees lel"

@CianMcsweeney

Ай бұрын

​@@whispercafe1515almost sounds worse haha

I wonder how much times have changed, if people would still go with this today

@nw_lhp

2 жыл бұрын

I do it all the time

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

I know people that do this all the time, you’re just scared

What if one of these people had epilepsy?

i like his approach. i never used to like this technique but i understand it now so it makes sense. it's not creepy at all. it's daring to be different.

3.19 hilarious 🤣 almost as good as a Chaplin or Keaton movie scene

El aire es Libre y la imagen en lugares públicos también. The air is Free and the image in public places too.

The picture that he shows of the leg looks completely different from the picture that we watch him take. Where did the wall come from?The girl was wearing heels but in the picture, the foot looks like it's angled parallel to the ground?

Biggest problem with KZread is that every one can say his bin head opinion on something they don't understand, they don't understand the dynamic, don't understand the morality, the reasons, that are behind this intrusive act of photographing. The problem is not how intrusive you are to take a photo, is not the act of taking a photo is not that, that determines if is right or wrong to take a photo, you can be be irrespecutful and intrusive as hell also taking photo with 200mm like a stalker, maybe not in the act of taking the photo (or maybe yes) but in the moment you have that photo in your hands.. it's the photographer himself, as a person, that determine if it's right or wrong, his morality his reasons, snot the act of taking a photo. And it takes a long way to stop photographing other person just for the sake of it and just for personal exposure (That, is extremely unrespectful) and starting photographing and externalized representation of themself taking nothing from them, but creating something new out of the existing.

Ahhh, so this is how flashing started

its cute though and Cohen is an artist

true contemporary photography

woman on the wall was UNCOMFORTABLE

02:23 i love it 😀

📸

The ultimate prankster. Was doing it before KZread made it cool.

Great technique, I really like this guy.

He’s like a street magician...using misdirection. Pretty cool

Is anyone knows that Cohen using the strobe light? / I am using M6 but I can't search that strobe in Google... help me someone pls~!

Every one just wants to be in their safe bubbles

They jump for joy! Did you ever flash someone with heart trouble?

What Camera did this filmed by can anyone tell pls .?

cool

2021 Finding this videos on recommended page. Is back then life is so much better? Old camera, old flash, old film, printed. Life so much better back then.

i was watching how to catch a predator from dateline how did i end up here?

Despite having a frankly invasive style, Cohen is not as annoying as Bruce Gilden.

You mean to tell me something GOOD has actually come out of Wilkes Barre, Pennsylavania aka the town I live in?

I ask a lot of people on the street for permission to take their photo and they say “NO!” Imagine the brutal reaction I would get if I took the shot without their permission like Mr.Cohen and they saw me take their picture?! That said, I will commonly use zoom lenses and shoot from far away in a stealthy manner without the subject ever knowing I took their picture. I mostly shoot black and white with 50 year old vintage film SLRs.

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

You’re better off not asking. You get better results and less aggression

@henryrogers5500

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickfanzo I don’t always ask. Only infrequently or once in a great while depending on the circumstances. But I am always discreet and polite and respect people’s personal space. I am not rude and obnoxious like Mr. Cohen.

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryrogers5500 I know people that were photographed by Cohen and never said he was rude about it. They just had a “huh” moment and it was over. He even smiled after and waved . Much of which you see in the video. No one is yelling over it Again this is your own projection of the process

@Ruylopez778

Жыл бұрын

I think it's about the energy/approach of the photographer, and their confidence. Photographers who are confident in what they're doing are more likely to put people at ease. Photographers who are timid or self conscious are more likely to get an awkward reaction. But I think nowadays people are more concerned about being made fun of on social media, so are less tolerant to having their photo taken, whereas in the past, someone taking their picture might have left them bemused or even flattered. And everyone has different style and objectives but I think shooting from a distance with a long lens might get equally good or better results (depending on what you want) but doesn't look the same as being close. As for asking permission, I guess it depends on what you ask for and how you ask - but you could always try this approach: see how many times you can get rejected, and aim for rejection. It might actually get better results. Just my opinion.

@antoniogrijalva2038

7 ай бұрын

tbh using a lens to zoom in is way more creepy than getting in their face. you got nothing to hide dude, you can give them a business card that links them to your photos. a smile goes a long way. e

so creepy but such an awesome product

So, how can you use a Flash at 1000/s like Mark Cohen on a Leica that haves a 55/s flash sync speed ?

@zahouda

3 жыл бұрын

Had the same question

@danwongphoto

Жыл бұрын

Because he uses a flash to freeze the subject. The flash has a faster exposure time than the shutter speed

@urbanimage

Ай бұрын

The flash is the dominant light source and provides most of the light for the exposure, overwhelming the available light. So effectively the exposure time is the duration of the flash rather than the shutter speed.

I'd like to see him use that technique on a cop standing in the street.

@namonty4

3 жыл бұрын

It's not illegal to photograph someone on the street. It is, however, a dick move to do it the way he does. I know he wants the reality of the situation, but getting as close as does without even talking to them afterward sucks. IMHO.

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

He has and it’s legal to do so

can anyone guess what lens hes using the get so close on the leica? Maybe an old 21mm?

@CianMcsweeney

Ай бұрын

He mentions in the video that he either uses a 21mm or 28mm, not clear what exact model, but I guess you could just look up what lenses Leica had available at those focal lengths in the 80's

***** I think you miss the fact that different people have different intentions with photography. While you might not think up close and personal shots of people you don't know are worth it, that doesn't mean somebody else doesn't. Why you might not "throw your morality out of the window for the sake of a picture" other people do and enjoy it. So to answer your question, Yes, I think a photograph up someone's nose or right in their face is worth scaring someone or making someone uneasy. It gives you unpredictable and exciting results, some positive and some negative. At the same time, I respect the way others use photography, street photography or even just street photography using the technique of invading space is not for everybody. I encourage you to learn how to respect other methods, even if you don't like them.

This is back when people thought it exciting to be photographed

I did it in bandung Indonesia... Flash stobist

When was this taken ?

Wow, its Bruce Gilden's uncle!

Sorry but I cant download it from your webpage

art

look at the work of bruce gilden and you will see the point of it. And like robert capa said, "If your photographs aren't good enough, you're not close enough"

Brazuca domina o mundo. tem brazuca nesse video.

I would take 2 photos back to back that way I would capture people’s reaction.

the times you can shoot like he do is definitely over

@nw_lhp

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you think that? Bro technique lives on forever.

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

No they aren’t. I know many that do this in 2022 . You’re just scared

I made a street photo of a group of construction workers on a lunch break a couple years ago. I was probably 20' away, no flash. They were obviously on lunch, sitting at some outdoor cafe tables. Even in THAT scenario, one of them shouted angrily after me, demanding an explanation.

how does manual focus so fast???

@davidellinsworth22

2 жыл бұрын

Zone focussing (focusing in advance). He knows in advance how close he's going to be, so just set the focus ring to, say, 0.5m, then use the aperture to stretch the depth of field in front and behind. He's using wide lenses so this is already an advantage in this regard

5:27

Was he the first to use this style ?

I wonder how many times he got kicked in the face. Rightfully.

Wonder how long it would take for him to get beaten up if he tried this approach today...

5:43 stephen shore is the camera itself

Tried and failed at this so many times, he is very lucky he doesn't get a smack in the face. Do really love his work.

@nickfanzo

2 жыл бұрын

He has been attacked before and so was winogrand. But when you’re a real artist and have that drive, it won’t stop you.

Hi, you there?