i realized this movie took place over the course of about 48 hours and no one actually *slept* the entire time

@IVIaskerade

3 ай бұрын

Kevin Spacey'a dog was asleep. That's right, just sleeping. At a farm upstate with plenty of room to run and play

@johnw1954

Ай бұрын

amphetamines

@smctrout4423

Ай бұрын

The firm liquidated its MBS position in less than 24 hours. Sullivan was working on Eric Dale's file at approximately 9:00 pm. Sullivan called Seth at 11:00 pm. By closing bell of the following day, they had sold everything.

@noggin6870

Ай бұрын

Not super unusual in this world. I was dating a girl who worked on Wall Street for a while and we would meet up for drinks when she got off of work. At midnight. And that's not when she was getting home, we'd meet at a bar like three blocks from office. She was averaging like 4 hours of sleep per night most weeks, it was awful.

@famcantor5

Ай бұрын

They did catch some snooze here & there

I love how this movie is basically a series of "delivering the bad news" to ever higher levels of management, and seeing the reaction of said management. Peter delivers the bad news to Will. Will delivers to Sam. Sam to Jared. Jared to John Tuld. And, as icing on the cake, Peter gets to deliver the bad news once again to Tuld. Each person up the food chain has a different reaction. We run the gamut of the human condition dealing with loss here. Everything from anger to panic to defeat, gloat, pragmatism.... love it.

@victortorres3187

2 жыл бұрын

The first one to deliver the newd was the watcher, me, us we sre the bottom of the food chain damm

@matthewhelton1725

2 жыл бұрын

Notice how each person processes/ progresses along with the plot on the Kubler-Ross Model: Tuld is the first to get to acceptance. Peter, smart as he is, doesn't yet grasp the implications of acceptance (selling your soul) despite warnings from Eric Dale (who had come to peace with walking away from the finance industry with some help from Will). Sam, with his nearly equal life/ corporate experience was lagging behind because of other emotional issues (his dying dog, his failed marriage), but by the ending scenes of the movie you can see the beginnings of acceptance.

@DimitriTheBarbarian

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewhelton1725 failed marriage? The guy is in his prime, super-rich. He can replace an old bag with a harem of long-legged maids. He is just sad over loss of his dog

@matthewhelton1725

2 жыл бұрын

@@DimitriTheBarbarian When talking with Tuld at the end, Sam tries to leave.... but is persuaded to stay "because he needs the money"... that's one of the underlying messages of this movie: Even the titans of finance are all too human. No matter how much they have, or earn, or might have saved, some will spend more than they have. Parkinson's Law, as applied to finance, in action. Sam went to bury his dog at a home no longer his, without calling ahead to the woman who was no longer his wife, and lamented at what he had done. This is another subtle metaphor for what came after: The Bailout.

@GrrrTurtle

2 жыл бұрын

I read this comment while listening to a podcast about the firing of an actress on star trek and it going from person to person at the same time and was so confused yet like, all of this is true...

This movie and The Big Short should be shown in high schools. Nobody should forget what happened in 2008-2009

@quantumapex6169

4 жыл бұрын

They should also teach them who was behind it all. Something called government

@Berezech

4 жыл бұрын

I'm a social sciences and economy teacher, and I do show these in class (I teach in France). Tough, they are still difficult to understand for students. CDO and MBS are really meant to be cryptic bullshit and the all debt-financiary-market-buytostayliquidstuff and managing-risk-with-no-risk-assets is difficult to explane. But I'm working in an ocean of ignorance, main policy-makers themselves struggle to understand the entirety of the techno-financial structure. And whose-right-whose-wrong mediatic system is so confused that it sticks to the mainstream discourse : "experts must have some kind of idea what they are doing, otherwise they would not be experts". Margin Call has the merit to show this expectation falls short.

@nosuchthing8

4 жыл бұрын

@@quantumapex6169 the government forced the banks to make risky decisions? No. That was greed. Long story, but even the banks know they made a mistake.

@njeddie4488

4 жыл бұрын

No, in America at least, it absolutely WAS the government. Between SarbOx, the CRA, and Fannie/Freddie they did force banks into more and more risk.

@kbanghart

4 жыл бұрын

All I know is that I lost my house, but got my stu loans paid off.

The only way this scene would be more realistic is if Seth asked “Dude are you sure your cell references are correct? Let me check your VLOOKUP formula”

@nejfhihd

2 жыл бұрын

They would be using index+match

@frankteunissen6118

2 жыл бұрын

No. When you get a result like this, you look at it, look at it again, let it sink in. Then you go back to see where you f*cked up the calculation. It all checks out. You sit back, scratch yourself in funny places. You get up, walk round the floor, cursing. Then you go back to the screen and repeat. Then you alter your input just a little bit to see how sensitive the result is, etc. Then you sit back and realise that your boss is not going to want to hear this and moreover, he (she?) is too dumb to understand it anyway. Bringing this news is going to end your career with the firm. Then you write a him/her memo with just enough data and explanation to CYA with the authorities later on whilst not overtaxing his/her mental capabilities, mail it off, sign out and leave and go to the nearest pub to get roaring drunk.

@mbk3214

2 жыл бұрын

@@nothingtoseehere96 offset index match

@DavidStnl83

2 жыл бұрын

Not using pandas and R...

@FrancoImperial

2 жыл бұрын

@@nejfhihd exactly, this faizan is a noob. index match or xmatch mate

It's unhealthy how much I watch clips from this film as well as The Big Short.

@Varillah

2 жыл бұрын

Same 🤣 the Ontario market is out of control with house prices. Even tho MBS products are more regulated now & lots on fixed rates, Canada is predicted crash in 2023. I’m more like can I make any money when it crashes

@dgconnelly

21 күн бұрын

2024 checkin' in: same

@roberts2666

13 күн бұрын

Not unhealthy - you have remarkably good taste.

@Cam11B83

5 күн бұрын

I’m in the industry - every time I watch them I gain something.

I always liked this quote: "They mistook leverage for genius"

@MrYessin87

4 жыл бұрын

jernej tojersu *Steve Eisman

@stefanofiorani1408

4 жыл бұрын

That is very tweetable

@cameronyoung6716

2 жыл бұрын

It's very hard to convince someone who thinks that he's God that he's wrong.

@kingofcards9516

29 күн бұрын

What does that mean???

@Butmunch666

29 күн бұрын

@@kingofcards9516 When the investment banks took out loans they used the mortgage backed securities as collateral. Because these are mortgages by law they could borrow up to 30x the value of the mortgages in some cases. So they did, and they used that money to buy more. However a lot of the mortgages that were graded AAA were in fact dogshit. Eventually when it was discovered that the mortgages they had on their books were essentially worthless they had a problem. They had a massive debt and the assets they bought with the debt were now essentially worthless. This caused a massive sell off of these assets which tanked the market. This tanking of the market caused several of the biggest investment banks on the planet to essentially go bankrupt.

Imagine realizing that a 25% decline in your portfolio literally wipes your company off the table.

@haydenmacfarlane7194

2 жыл бұрын

Easy, that’s 4x leverage

@danielmcgillis270

2 жыл бұрын

And also realizing that your company is at the edge of the cliff and there is no way to stop it or turn it around. Once something that is heavily leveraged starts losing value, it is a real short trip out of business. Just ask all the people they sold these shit bonds to.

@mbk3214

2 жыл бұрын

@@haydenmacfarlane7194 probably much more since its only one floor of the company

@deathbycognitivedissonance5036

2 жыл бұрын

Oof

@jhapradeep

Жыл бұрын

@@haydenmacfarlane7194 Yes, years after trading and watching crypto market and one day suddenly watching this clip i finally understood they were only 4x leveraged.

IMHO this film came out too early. People weren't ready for it yet. If it was a couple years later it would have done better. It's really a well acted film that moves along nicely.

@CrashCarson14

6 жыл бұрын

ilovebrandnewcarpets I think now would have been a good time

@randyt700

6 жыл бұрын

not to mention there were some heavyweights in it, jeremy irons, kevin spacey, stanley tucci

@lifelonglearningltdllcrobi5526

6 жыл бұрын

ilovebrandnewcarpets 😇the reason it came out when it did is because the freemason illumnati need to expose themselves before the shit comes put out so this is going to really happen that's why they did not want it more timely .. the end book revelation bible turn the back of the book 7th seal catch up

@chains-chains

4 жыл бұрын

@@lifelonglearningltdllcrobi5526 had a bit too much internet yeah?

@jdbarr769

4 жыл бұрын

@@chains-chains he's closer to the truth than you'd imagine but you're one of those believers in never to be proven big bangs, abiogenesis and evolution. scientifically, show us as it happened evidence, and that's with scientific observation and test evidences of the big bang, abiogenesis and evolution. And that's As it Happened! And not the make believe conjecture the ministers of your faith has relied upon until now.

This is the only film I've ever watched where there was not a single scene wasted. Every single scene was needed to make this masterpiece.

@Youbeentagged

2 ай бұрын

This and the big short too.

@wittyroark

Ай бұрын

I always fast forward the scene where Sam & Sullivan climb the escalator

@cmendr011

Ай бұрын

I’ve seen this movie so many times and there is not an ounce of fat on this script. Everything is succinct and pithy. And the dialogue is so interesting you forget there is not real background music/noise other than pages turning, phones ringing, or air conditioning humming. Not to mention the acting which is of such caliber you could write a book on the subtle nuances of each characters actions. Like Jared asking for the time despite the fact he’s wearing a watch. Or when Tuld is eating and talking to Sam at the end in such a natural way that you can no longer distinguish between the character and the actor emulating the character.

I really like the look that Paul Betteny put on when Seth said they are starting to test those levels of volatility. He may not understand how the models are created, but he knows what leverage is, and how much a shift in the value of those contracts mean. That got his attention REALLY QUICK!

'I frankly don't even know what it is you guys do' Cracks me up

I worked in Risk Management in 2008. This movie is 100% accurate even down the to cleaning guy vacuuming after hours while people were working late.

@bluehorseshoe444

Жыл бұрын

What kind of risk did you manage and where?

@Jeefer_Gary

Жыл бұрын

Do the analysts (not sure if thats the correct term) leave their monitors on over night? At the start of the clip, everyone leaves for the bar, but everything is left on.

@ZainHoda

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeefer_Gary nobody used to turn their monitor off manually but a screen saver would normally kick in after a few minutes and then the monitor would shut off automatically after some additional time. Computers weren’t turned off because if you needed to take care of something urgent, you would remotely log in to the computer from home.

@_Chipster

Жыл бұрын

@Peter Pan That's a serious risk, dry mouth is a bitch.

@bluehorseshoe444

Жыл бұрын

@@ZainHoda WTF are you talking about? Your office computer doesn't have to be physically on in order to login remotely. You're completely full of bs

This is a really intelligent drama. Great acting and script. Very under-appreciated movie.

@johnhearn5043

7 жыл бұрын

hey, make entertainment out of a Calamity that ruined people's retirement. they should all have been hung. but they in real life walked away with billions of tax payers money. banks are scum.

@Vesivian

7 жыл бұрын

like every war movie huh

@johnhearn5043

7 жыл бұрын

it least the guys in war movies are just guys doing what they have to because they were drafted. these guys are usurious Liars. whore mongers. drug addicts.

@Vesivian

7 жыл бұрын

brooooo, now ur just generalising way too much... thats like saying germany is full of nazis and jew haters cuz of ww2 even tho there were tons of good germans

@johnhearn5043

7 жыл бұрын

du weisst nicht von deutschland

If I may, whoever wrote Zachary Quinto's character deserves a medal. Right balance of nerdiness, style, articulation and all.

This is one of the most rewatchable movies IMHO!

@RsandeepK7

4 жыл бұрын

@kirwi kirwinson no actually I am bad at expressing myself

3:23 when you realize the test had a back side

@listenspeaklisten

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Will goes from swigging from a bottle to stone sober in 30 seconds.

im just like a watching a million margin clips now and im totally captivated. how dafuq have i not even heard of this movie until today??? 😮

@thlee3

6 жыл бұрын

fo reeeel

@ThothTheAtlanteanK

6 жыл бұрын

Movies like this cause people to do too much thinking, combine that with the dumbing down of the public in the last 5 years and there you have it. The truth is always in front of our face.

@thealaskan1635

5 жыл бұрын

The ruling class did a good job burying it. They don't want you to know the truth. People should have went to jail for this. The ruling class planned this when they had deregulation laws passed so they can make a fast buck. This was pre-planned. Conspiracy experts warned us not to buy any houses and that this would happen

@mikeposton247

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I don't know why it did not get more attention but I've watched it three times. One of my favorite movies to come out in the past 10 years

@gmshadowtraders

4 жыл бұрын

The best movies are completely under the radar sometimes! Not your fault, I only heard of the movie myself maybe 3 years ago! It's been out nearly a decade.

Will is actually REALLY smart. Not just intelligent, but smart. He knows how models work, he knows what parameters go into a calculation, he just doesn't need to hear the full equation at that precise point in time.

@legendofthefall7082

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people who aren’t mathematically/quantitatively gifted are extremely successful in business because they understand the underlying concepts and have great decision-making skills.

@joelwillems4081

2 жыл бұрын

Will and his bosses are just years away from seeing the models shown on computer screens in that same way. They picked up on the meaning immediately when just "told straight". In less than 24 hours this went from, "be careful" that there might be something there to, it's no longer our problem and we "cleared it from our books". Most committees I've been on can't decide after several meetings whether to celebrate Halloween on October 31st or not.

@JassonQuill

2 жыл бұрын

because he is a rocket scientist

@msb3235

2 жыл бұрын

He probably knew the model gonna fail eventually but didn't expect it gonna happened so soon.

@drfeelgordo

Жыл бұрын

​@John Q. Bebtelovimab once he started naming days. He knew when they were eating loses

One thing I like about this scene is that despite him being presented as comic relief, Seth is shown to actually be very competent and aware. He's goofy. He's not stupid.

@50srefugee

Жыл бұрын

A bit goofy, but painfully naive.

He remembered his bro's cell number without having to look it up in his phone, that's pretty impressive.

@fitrianhidayat

4 жыл бұрын

@Jackalofdeath not true. A bunch of other people find out before him. Still impressive though

@whitesoxrules

4 жыл бұрын

Anyone who is good with numbers can remember them easily.

@markschade6951

4 жыл бұрын

Wasn't all that long ago that it was normal to know the numbers of people you were close to by heart! I still remember my best friend's house number and haven't had to actually dial it in about 15 years.

@aatkarelse8218

4 жыл бұрын

@@markschade6951 yeah it is funny thow that go's, i was never good with numbers but yes about 15 years ago people knew numbers, owning a mobile phone is not all good !

@MrEditor6000

4 жыл бұрын

Remembering a phone number was pretty par for the course not too long ago... I'm 27.

I love the way this movie communicates to you what's happening with the minimum information possible. They never get into the technicals of what they're talking about, they don't throw too many complex terms and concepts your way, and you never even learn the name of the company. Instead, you look at one person's reaction and you can instantly tell shit is about to go down.

@khuzram

2 жыл бұрын

Loosely based on bank of America

@daeroc

2 жыл бұрын

@@khuzram Lehman Brothers

@timdowney6721

2 жыл бұрын

@@khuzram Lehman Bros……..whose chairman was named Fuld.

@DailyShit.

2 жыл бұрын

That's because the movie is dumb and acting as if it is smart. There is 0 substance. You need to understand the concepts to get what the problem is. The movie just says "look at the screen"

@missbelled6700

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyShit. Your comment is dumb and acting as if it is smart. There is 0 substance. You need to understand the concepts to get what the problem is. The comment just says "movie bad"

6:47 that "WhEn" was the fastest sobering up ive ever seen someone do. 😂

@simle6010

3 жыл бұрын

And then his visceral wince when Peter says "today." This is the movie that convinced me that Paul Bettany isn't just some stoic action tough guy but is just a solid actor in almost any role you could ask him to play.

@M0rmagil

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I noticed that too.

@havingfunwithfunds

2 ай бұрын

When the coin dropped

Peter: It's fairly complicated. Will: Simplify it!

@myfinancialclimb3121

2 жыл бұрын

Peter: It's fairly complicated. Vision: I have an equation.

If you didn't realize, Sam has his dead dog in the trunk of his car for most of the movie.

@trymhjelmervik2388

4 жыл бұрын

Love that metaphor

@Snowy123

4 жыл бұрын

Trym Hjelmervik what’s the metaphor?

@trymhjelmervik2388

4 жыл бұрын

@@Snowy123 the company has got a dead dog in the trunk too, their mortages.

@Fenrir214

4 жыл бұрын

@@trymhjelmervik2388 and he dumps it in somebody else's lawn in the end. His son is mentioned to be a wall street banker as well, and he didnt even alert him. His son's corp got some of the dumping and he dumps the dog in his ex-wife's lawn.

@Acrocanthosaurus

4 жыл бұрын

Rock bottom fido score, no good dog verification

I found it refreshing that instead of what you'd have in normal films, where the seniors would be laughing off the warnings the juniors are giving them until it was beyond too late, here all the managers take Sullivan seriously immediately. Same with the other junior analyst who doesn't just tell Sullivan to piss off but goes straight back to the office as he asks.

@tonycapella2063

2 жыл бұрын

But the character they fired who almost found this went to management a year prior with similar concerns and was pushed out because of it. They knew these products were garbage the entire time, but never thought it would come back on them.

@isthatujeebus

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno about anyone else, but when an MIT rocket scientist tells me something's up, I believe the rocket scientist guy.

@MenachemSchmuel

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonycapella2063 And it didn't, they got bailed out and no one went to jail. God bless America.

@IndigoIndustrial

2 жыл бұрын

@@isthatujeebus A lot of bio-informatics people get poached from academia too. You can't blame them as a lot of them have a limited grasp of biochemistry/immunology/gene regulation etc.

@WaterCrane

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually a subversion. Many of the upper managers actually already knew what was about to happen, and Eric had tried to warn them a year earlier, but was ignored and then targetted for dismissal by Sarah Robertson. Once a junior analyst had accurately predicted what was about to unfold, and was much worse than anyone had thought (although Tuld was expecting it would happen eventually), they couldn't hide from it any longer, and it would mean others would eventually draw the same conclusion... they were just lucky that they were first. But yes, it is refreshing to see them take it seriously.

"You need to come in and see this...." "What? It's 11pm can't you just email it to me?" "I don't think that would be a good idea... 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 "I'll be right there..... "

I love all the controlled tension from the major players in this game. They all know that this is not the only company that is leveraged like this, especially Peter. He knows that what is about to happen is more than his own job, his own company. It is the whole world.

@Kaybe23

2 жыл бұрын

So what do you think this time will happen? Guess the central banks pushed this to new levels

One part that I think is underestimated is the fact Seth is able to understand what happened as soon as he looked at Peter's data. The pieces had been there for a while and were known, it just that people weren't looking.

@alexm566

Жыл бұрын

people were just assuming nobody else knew or was willing to expose it

@bradleybrown8399

16 күн бұрын

Eric Dale was looking.

3:45 Peter Sullivan doesn't just "discover the losses".He realizes what his numbers mean for the company, for him, for the entire economy--as shown later, when he mentions all these people who have no idea what is about to happen. NYC has still not recovered. But at this moment, Sullivan sees it all unfolding. God only knows what that must have felt like for the analyst that really did stumble across this for the first time. And this scene portrays the moment so perfectly. Just a guy, sitting at a bank of computer screens, pulling out his ear buds.

@rustymason3860

2 жыл бұрын

They all knew; everyone was playing a big game of chicken.

@TarkinRocher

2 жыл бұрын

And yet, the firm would have ended up richer than ever before in just a few years. No bad deed goes unrewarded. 😕

@anonymousAJ

2 жыл бұрын

If only people had predicted the crisis years ahead of time and explained which government policies caused it and how kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXqYmrulpay8d5c.html

@georgevarughese4886

Жыл бұрын

What's the primes of this movie 🎬 🎞.

@DGimpeccablejaguar

Жыл бұрын

Ya and if MBS didn’t exist your house would be easier to buy as it would be cheaper

Seth can easily passed off as shallow, but he’s such a well written support character (one of many that make this movie so good). There’s a lot of details in his story line and character that shed light on to the universe that’s being portrayed.

@Flerndw2222

Жыл бұрын

The most honest moments we get out of Seth is when he asks Eric whether his job is safe and when he tells Jared that “this is all I’ve ever wanted to do” before being fired. Outside that he puts up a façade. Seth appears to be apathetic or cold to what is going on around him. This shows itself when - he pretends as though he has to recall the names of the people he works with closely 4:28 5:49 - the way he says “be glad you’re still alive” to Peter 0:33 - who's 5 years his senior, is already an associate rather than a junior analyst and has generally spent more time at the firm than Seth - his “i made nearly a 1/4 million dollars last year and for what” rant where he pretends to be a cynic and as though his work and colleagues ("glorified crack addicts") are beneath him. A key theme of this movie is the strategies people use to survive and elevate themselves in the firm’s shark tank environment. Seth’s strategy seems to be putting on this façade: to not show any vulnerability or weakness that may see him devoured. But in reality he is genuinely passionate about what he does and is afraid of failing to stay in the game and fulfill his ambitions. What I love about this character and so many others in Margin Call is that the characters are more representative of a Wall Street employee than the shallow caricatures we get shown in The Big Short. The Big Short has such a oversimplified black and white portrayal of Wall Street that makes the movie lose its credibility. Margin Call tells a story in which its characters are credible and three dimensional human beings.

The more I watch this excellent movie, the more I realise that the senior people, probably down as far as Will Emerson, knew that this was coming. Emerson's reaction at 6:50 is not "wtf is this", more "shit, it's happening". The company's strategy, decided by Tuld, was to keep making money up to the last possible minute then offload all the junk securities onto some other sucker.

@benjaminbierley2074

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, though it did come off that they were perhaps blindsided that it was happening not only sooner than expected, but was far beyond what they had eyeballed their risk being, the implication was they were downsizing and keeping the risk management department gagged because they knew they were playing with risk...they just underestimated the risk, not realizing it was going to be far more than just a speed bump but more like a pothole.

@MrCrackheadst

2 жыл бұрын

The numbers projecting it, complex models and charts might be hard but the bottom line is clear. The bosses know That they’re using a lot of leverage on mortgage bonds and that the ship is starting to shake, the captain smell the storm but of course try to convince himself based on experience (sucks when there are no precedents) , but if the metereologist tells you you’re fucked you surely are

@spdcrzy

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminbierley2074 Not a pothole, a fucking sinkhole.

@aliensoup2420

2 жыл бұрын

@@spdcrzy No, more like an asteroid crater...no, no, more like the Black Hole at the center of the galaxy.

@DailyShit.

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminbierley2074 no, If you would have payed attention they say multiple times that this is what they expected but they always get cut off.

3:40 pete takes out his earbuds because.... the music stopped

Much emotion in this clip: Spacey's dog dying and Quinto's realization that the bank is dying.

Dude really listened to ukulele folk music while discovering billions worth of projected losses in the portfolio.

The thing that strikes me the most in this movie, is that whoever they show this model, they immediately know what’s up and how bad it is. Will Emerson, the blond guy from the mentalist and the ceo of the company. I think that this movie very well portrayes that the top management knew what they were doing the whole time and that they all knew this bubble could burst every minute, but they only miscalculated the likeliness of it to burst. And when it did burst they immediately knew what will happen from now on and how bad it is, but are shocked because they thought the chances for this scenario were close to 0.

@mqbq3651

2 жыл бұрын

I just left the same kinda comment on another video :D totally agree. Sam even says in the other meaning, that he warned them about it a year ago.

@chrpap7042

Жыл бұрын

In the scene where the boss was trying to convince Sam to do the trade, Sam at one point replied with "you are obviously operating with more information than I have". You bet your ass he knew beforehand. So did his golden boy and the risk lady. It is obvious from their conversation in the elevator that had discussed similar scenarios.

@donaldbabbitt1214

Жыл бұрын

Simon Baker

@jimuren2388

5 ай бұрын

First time viewing I wondered why they accepted Peter's analysis so readily. Later viewings I picked up that they already knew. It wasn't OMG. It was "if our junior guy can figure it out, a gazillion others can as well"

@thePronto

29 күн бұрын

At different points in the movie, all the senior people were telling each other that they knew this might happen. When the music stopped, Sarah (Demi Moore) was the only one left without a chair.

I was amazed how many levels of hierarchy there were in that firm. Peter's boss is Will, whose boss is Sam, whose boss is Demi Moore's character, whose boss is that Mentalist guy, whose boss is Jeremy Irons' character.

@tendrams

6 жыл бұрын

This is a very important point. The organization could most probably fire Demi Moore and the Mentalist Guy, divide their labor among those currently in lower positions, and have a higher percentage of people in the hierarchy who actually know what they are doing....while saving millions in salary. Watch the other clips where the Menatlist Guy is asked questions in a meeting....he basically just refuses to answer until he is sure what Jeremy Irons wants to hear. He is not a thinker and I suspect Demi Moore's character isn't either. They are there to get paid and act as institutional echo chambers.

@burhannasir8371

6 жыл бұрын

Pr Ra you missed Eric Dale, that is before be got fired but still one level more that's a hell of a lot of people

@charlie7mason

6 жыл бұрын

Actually, whether they fire anyone else or not, they shouldn't fire Jared Cohen (Simon Baker aka Mentalist) simply because he did everything right. He grasped the situation with minimal information present to him and made the quickest decisions on what to do. It was his idea to sell everything and he did it within a minute of looking at the numbers while the analysts (Seth. Phill and Will) were still confused and the rest of the upper echelon were just wondering what their options were (Sam, Ramesh) or were trying to shift blame (Demi Moore's character). He even pre-empted calling Tuld in right after he'd seen the numbers and also knew Moore's character would have to be sacrificed because she screwed up by firing Dale. There's a reason they call him the killer and he made the position he's in while only 43, which is pointed out doesn't really happen.

@MsJubjubbird

6 жыл бұрын

In firms of thousands you have that. I have a hierarchy of four managers in my office and others elsewhere. What does happen is you get a fracture between the minions and the upper management due to the long chain. People like Demi and Simon are important as they are the sounding board for the CEO and help with long term strategy. But Demi was the fall guy in this but you would probably replace that position. It's the middle management that gets replaced as they are extra layers and focus a lot on processes. But then the minions don't know who their bosses are or have bosses that don't know what they're doing because they're too disconnected so it's a lose/lose.

@gnatman1102

6 жыл бұрын

MsJubjubbird Where I work, there are 7 levels of management.

I think the overall panic and feeling of 'the end is here' in this scene and the rest of the movie is so great. Not cheesy or cliché at all like in most crisis type movies.

Such a great movie. Everybody involved in it totally delivered. 10 out of fucking 10.

So what I learned from this is....if you have Mr Spock or another very highly qualified Vulcan starfleet officer to check your numbers, you at least find the mistakes.... :) always employ at least one vulcan

@MisterTutor2010

4 жыл бұрын

That way you will live long and prosper :)

@Meshakhad

4 жыл бұрын

If you can't find a Vulcan, get a superpowered serial killer.

@left4deadian

4 жыл бұрын

Vulcans are logical

This scene is so good. The realization from Will that the whole thing is starting to go down. The fear and panic that is starting to appear. Perfect!

The casting in this movie is perfect.. even the vacuum cleaner played his role majesticly

@SuperChuckRaney

Жыл бұрын

I think it was much simplier, these produc ts don't "trade" as stocks or bonds, these products are Derivative Products, not the Bonds themselves. They are insureence on Bonds. They recieve monthly payments.... the thing about them is.... Risk Exposure carries a Leaverage Disadvantage, some of these products had 25, 40, even 100 to 1. So, if you are recieving premiums on a $10,000,000 CDS of MBS .... If it fails, or merely drops in value ... YOU payout $250,000,000 or more. That month it's "held on the books" the firm recieves the premiums and is liable for payout. I think as a max measure, you just add up each contract for total failure THEN look at the partial failures, ONE thing for certain the leverage will make even a small drop in Bond Value a huge payout. The bank is liable for ANY $ drop in value, it doesn't have to be a total collapse of value.

This is one film I can watch over and over and over and over again. Never get tired of it. I think It’s an underrated masterpiece.

personally I recommend watching this movie first to get a baseline understanding of the market crash the follow it up with the Big Short for a more detailed analysis, both together give a fantastic overview of the entire thing to the average viewer

The scene actually took place in Paris among traders there. They stopped buying MBS securities first.

Trolling Spacey at this point is redundant. This is a great movie.

@johntechwriter

4 жыл бұрын

And he is a great actor, whatever his personal weaknesses.

@bradleybrown8399

16 күн бұрын

Why the p h u c k would anyone care to do that?

This is a beautifully made, heartbreaking film. I remember watching it then, and it's stayed with me. Just now grasped the metaphor with Spacey's dog...trying to block out bad news.

I’ve the exact same moment in my firm 10 years ago. The volatility model just cannot extrapolate out that far (as it was built on historical data), to give a realistic prediction of what was happening on ground. Ten years down the track, I’m not quite sure if the lesson was learnt.

@maxgsd8770

4 жыл бұрын

TheHzh82 it wasn’t!!!!

@konosmgr

2 жыл бұрын

Models tend to underestimate black swan events and outliers, while it is those same events that are career defining.

@Haannibal777

2 жыл бұрын

@@konosmgr Exactly! In finance correlation and volatility are really moving targets. Way too many people treat them as set in stone.

@Scyllax

2 жыл бұрын

Watch "The Big Short". In reality, they were happy they won at capitalism with mass wealth welfare socialism, and they learned nothing. Americans bailed out the bankers with five times the amount of money they admitted to then. The smug assholes portrayed in both movies should still be in prison.

@jimmytimmy3680

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you assume they are ethical? All they care about is their pathological greed. They enjoyed the billions of dollars in bailouts from taxpayers to buy back their stocks and give themselves millions in bonuses. And in the pandemic they did it again and they continue doing it until people don't rise up.

One of my favourite films of all time. The tension, suspense, acting is nothing shy of a masterpiece.

Watched this movie last night. It was really really well done. Amazing acting by everyone, really solid writing, and I like how it didn't sensationalize too much. Straightforward, hard-hitting, all taking place in the course of one night. 8.5/10

@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449

Жыл бұрын

I loved how they showed the hierarchy or power structure that exists at such firms. You see the lowly risk analyst standing outside on the sidewalk with a cup of coffee and then you also see how the top dogs stroll into work aboard a private helicopter.

What a great movie! Saw it for the first time yesterday. I loved how they didn't bother to dive too deep into each character's background and dove straight into the issue at hand. A nice concise film that focused on the issue from start to finish. Was very gripping!

GOD I LOVE HIS REACTION AND SUDDEN REALIZATION AT 6:46. “Whennn.” “Today.” *OH SHIT.* (going through will’s mind). It’s subtle but it’s SOOOOO BELIEVABLE. That’s exactly how a usually confident and perhaps cocky senior corporate leader would react. The joking and the usual facade is absolutely gone. God I love this fucking movie. I love Paul Bettany

This movie joined the list of the most underrated ever made!! It's so good!!!

This could have been one of the most boring movies in history had the writing and acting not been so brilliant. Not just perfect, but better than perfect. Almost every second of the movie it seems they're taking something real about the finance industry, distilling it for maximum dramatic effect, and using it to teach you (or me, anyway) something.

@zaidkhalid3743

4 жыл бұрын

@Eric Blair, this movie is based or inspired by the recession of 2008. It basically shows what a financially firm does at these times. It was honest and brutal, no sugar coating or excessive dramatization. They laid out everything as it usually is. The case with Goldman Sachs might have inspired them, "selling something you know has no value".I would recommend watching "The Big Short", and "The Vice". They are worth your time.

@Nautilus1972

4 жыл бұрын

You're in trouble if you learn about these cunts from movies. Google money as debt, and read the Creature from Jekyll Island. Learn the evil that is the Federal Reserve.

@Patricia-zt8ub

4 жыл бұрын

Too bad it was real drama playing out across the US and the rest of the world, not some made-for-tv bs you so sound as if you are describing.

@suzclayton783

4 жыл бұрын

I find it funny when the more accurate the film, the angrier the stupid people get.

@suzclayton783

4 жыл бұрын

You are right even Demi Moore or just nailed it. I feel so sorry for the people that think this film is not realistic. That's more frightening than anything

My take after watching this movie, was that saying “ fuck me” was common among the workers in this line of work.

@danguee1

20 күн бұрын

...at the very start of a financial crash. That penny-dropping moment..

I remember the day Bear Stearns went down. The company i was work for had tons of bad positions in the market and I pulled into an IGA parking lot and realized we just ceased to be a company before anyone else knew it. The president of the company lied to everyone and said we where ok but after a couple days and him turning others against me it became clear.

@alanpecherer5705

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when Lehman went down. Their stock peaked at maybe 90, and was down to about 60. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, $10, $7.50 $5, and $2.50 options strikes appeared on the option chain out of nowhere. Maybe 10 days later, LEH was a zero.

@halledwardb

2 жыл бұрын

I asked the CIO at Bear if this housing thing was going to be big deal. His response? Annoyed ". It's a nat on a flea on an Elephants ass". I panicked and sold 32 houses in the Chicagoland area.

Leaving their monitor on and not locking the keyboard is a definite meeting with their team leader in the morning......

The color correction and grading on this film is so great. Looks like The Bourne Identity and House of Cards. Only Christopher Nolan films like this anymore.

@devonrusinek5807

4 жыл бұрын

What about Black Mirror?

@Iron4TrollPatrol

4 жыл бұрын

Yes the colors in the office scenes especially at night look amazing

One of the most underrated movies of all time!

Love how the camera subtly pans down to reveal the USB drive 0:45

@rlatjdwo1

7 жыл бұрын

Very subtle indeed.

@JeremiahFernandez

6 жыл бұрын

good catch man. although just putting it in frame from the beginning of the shot would've had the same effect

@matth1589

6 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favourite bits of acting. I like the way he puts it in his mouth and bites it. Babies and primates often explore new objects by putting them in their mouth. It's a very primitive response. Then when he takes the top off, he tosses disdainfully on to the desk. It's beautifully done. He's curious but at the same time he really doesn't want to look at this, he doesn't want to have that drive. He resents it, but cannot resist looking into it.

One of the more interesting parts of strategic planning is getting your leadership to clearly articulate their fundamental assumptions about customers, competitors, suppliers, technologies, etc., then getting them to periodically revisit those assumptions (test them) as the real world starts to provide data (aka experience). You'd be amazed how many leaders choose to believe that it was poor execution or lack of talent, not flawed logic (now deeply embedded in the corporate structures they created), that lead to missing targets and falling behind. Human nature, I guess.

Okay, future film makers, watch this scene and watch it very closely. In eight and a half minutes, they've taken a subject your audience doesn't understand, and ratcheted the tension up to a boil. And all it took was a handful of skilled actors, some smart music cues, some sharp editing, and a director that stepped out of the way and let the scene happen. This is a great movie, study it! PLEASE!

Janitor getting all types of insider information. Lol

@WaterCrane

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually a pretty important point. If you want to know how a company is doing, any company, talk to those who are lowest in the hierarchy. Talk to the janitors, the caterers, the waitresses (in restaurants), the cleaners etc. For example, one cleaner mentioned how she knew the company she was working for was going down because of how often she had to replace the toilet rolls... it had suddenly dropped from twice a day to about twice a week or so. Fewer clients. That and if you're a cleaner, you get to see things like paperwork on acquisitions carelessly left on the CEO's table or thrown in the bin.

@scottmatheson3346

Жыл бұрын

@@WaterCrane wait ... so the clients were coming in and shitting in the company toilets so often that when they stopped coming the company's toilet use dropped 85%? or the employees weren't coming in to work but she could only tell this from toilet paper use? or anxiety made people constipated? i think you are, pull a bad pun, full of shit on this one, no offense.

One of the greatest details is showing the cleaning workers throughout. Humble workers treated almost as if they're not there, and they're the ones who will really get ruined by this

@d.samsimon8524

Жыл бұрын

Thanks to the Chewish tribe ..who also profited from this film

The very moment you realize you are going to be on the wrong end of something historic.

The seriousness in Paul Bettany's voice is engaging.

Love the part where Spacey seems like a ruthless person, but he is vunerable to his dog. Every strong person you meet day to day has a weakness.

Rewatching this film after spending some years in this industry, I can point out one thing that this firm done right in this thing. That every one on the chain escalated the issue timely, ensured a swift decision made at the end to get them in the position to be out first.

@reallyhappenings5597

2 жыл бұрын

That's your takeaway? 🙄

@anmiriam

2 жыл бұрын

@@reallyhappenings5597 what's yours?

@embecmom5863

2 жыл бұрын

have spent 30 years in the industry, the only reason it is escalated is to get the crap off your desk as quickly as possible to try and avoid losing your job, that is the motivation not about being out first.

@mbk3214

2 жыл бұрын

It is typical Prisoners dilemma

@jimmyjazz1570

2 жыл бұрын

After watching the film and being of normal intelligence, I can see that anyone with half a brain would have made that decision to get rid of their sh*t firstest, and that's without spending 1 f*cking minute in the Industry. I lie, I spent some time at Fidelity Investments, took a years salary plus bonus as a pay off and told them that they could kiss my *****. Still got a water colour picture of the office and smile whenever I glance at it

If you watch the first meeting clip and this meeting clip you'll know who's the real deal people you want in the company and why Demi Moore's character was the excess baggage and was rightfully removed after this whole fiasco : 1. When presented by Sullivan's report, everyone but Moore's character recognize it was the real deal. Moore questioned the report by asking something irrelevant like Sullivan's CV which doesn't add value. All the other staff didn't question Sullivan's CV. 2. Moore's character was unable to make any call by herself. This is shown by her tendency to use the word "We" instead of "Me". Notice she asked for time to run the figures before doing anything which is already too late given the time sensitivity of this situation. 3. Simon Baker's character shows why he's at such a high position despite his age. Once he looked at the report he knew time if of the essence. The moment he was sure of Sullivan's calculation he immediately left the room to call Jeremy Iron's character while the rest of his colleagues was still wondering what to do. He was already knew the only solution was to get rid of their toxic assets ASAP. 4. Kevin Spacey's character despite his charisma and skills was unable to progress further in the corporate ladder because of his inability to make ruthless decision like Baker and Irons character.

@oneeyedman99

5 жыл бұрын

That's how it seems if you watch the clips, but the whole movie gives a more complicated picture. Moore's character warned the higher-ups (the Irons and Baker characters), but apparently not forcefully enough to avoid taking the blame when the firm gets stuck with the big losses. She probably knew full well what the figures were going to show by the time of the first meeting, but admitting that openly right off would eliminate any chance she had to shift the blame.

@danmorrison452

2 жыл бұрын

👏

@tonycapella2063

2 жыл бұрын

Demi Moore knew the assets were incredibly risky but covered it up for a year. The whole subtext of her firing Eric Dale was to cover up the fact he had came to her about the risks a year prior. The biggest thing everyone missed was the markets exceeding the projected volatility so severely.

@OliverPolyzois

2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis!

@sueprice3315

Жыл бұрын

The other characters, esp Jared, did not find Sullivan's CV to be irrelevant. "So you're a rocket scientist." I've seen other comments that suggest that Moore's character had political motives behind the question. She had known for a while how risky things were, and was trying to make it look like she wasn't to blame. Sullivan having such an impressive CV was what she hoped to use to position things as, this couldn't have been known until this super smart guy figured it out. That would take the heat off her, she hoped. Didn't work.

The Big Short is one of my all time favorite movies. Honestly, I had not heard of this film until the algorithm sent it my way.

@manager4409

2 жыл бұрын

You'd like boiler room

You ever notice that every single time they take this to a higher level, the first response they get always includes some version of "I don't understand any of this stuff". It's a subtle point, but it's pretty clear that none of the higher ups have any idea how their own company works or what it really does.

@dommelow2676

7 жыл бұрын

Graham Kennedy You are right and wrong. I think Rodgers, Cohen and especially Fuld don't understand the different points of the high mathematic risk management, but they understand how the entire company does work and so they are able to manage it properly, as they did when this mess started.

@hoangvu5233

6 жыл бұрын

will emerson is a trader not a risk management officer and also Sam @@ . So they dont understand risk assessment model and math formula blah blah . I think a manager or high rank officer ability is to solve problem , not identify problem . That why they hire people to do paper work and desk job . However even nowadays , risk management is still the lowest paid sector in banking in my country @@ . I dont know why

@daemanyoon3706

6 жыл бұрын

Graham Kennedy Mmmm

@snois2

6 жыл бұрын

It's because school teach to be effective workers, not effective leaders or thinkers

@LibertarianRF

6 жыл бұрын

snois2 word!

This dude is such a great actor! I’ve loved him since I first saw him on Heros.

2023 - it’s happening now guys!

Dog really doesn't get enough credit for its role in this film. Wonderful acting!

Seriously an amazing film. People don't understand that everything is tied to economics.

@sandrobindelli5607

7 жыл бұрын

Common Sense Yeah...when I was a kid my dad who was then an IBM executive had me buy the paper. Then he pulled out the 4-5 economics pages and said "See? This is the News. All the rest of the paper is just sides, useless jaw-jaw".

@JoshSweetvale

6 жыл бұрын

Sandro Bindelli I E the difference between what is and what should be.

@LeonVerhulst

6 жыл бұрын

Always follow the money

@kamacazi8

6 жыл бұрын

I see your father had no humanity in him as well. Money is more important then that article on a mother dying in a car accident. Is what you are saying. nice ... You realize your memory is an exact portrayal of what this movie was conveying.. if you even understood the message.

@thriller1911

6 жыл бұрын

The Real Civilisation no, everything is tied to behavior. How people interact, or don't.

Every time I watch this film, I am amazed by the acting talent. It is a riveting story and so well told. The movie should have received more awards.

@kibido7373

2 жыл бұрын

except the guy who plays seth. "everyone's going out man, you should... come on..." it's like he forgot his line

This film is just full of clips I enjoy watching over and over again. So well written and acted

Just love this guy's work ethic - also the way he made sure to say goodbye to his (sadly, former) boss.

@rifqoadzkiya5101

2 жыл бұрын

Eric dale back to company tough,in the later scene

@stevem2323

2 жыл бұрын

@@rifqoadzkiya5101 He didn't as far i remember, he said fuck them.

@nigelft

Жыл бұрын

@Steve M Not quite ... The in-house 'Security Team' bought him back, to sit quietly in an empty conference room, as the bank sold its position, for an insane amount of money per hour, just so the CEO, John Tuld, could be assured that no-one else knew about "the biggest bag of odourous excrement exer assembled in the history of capitalism" ... ... in other words, he didn't want even the chance of Eric Dale snitching to any of the other institutions that what they where selling them, by the next trading day, will worth no more than 20c on the dollar ...

probably the most under-appreciated part in the movie is Will essentially telling Seth while driving back from Eric's that people want to live live's they cannot afford (few pay cash for a home - most have mortgages, get loans for cars, etc.) and then pretend they don't understand the system that makes it possible...just as banks function on a fractional reserve basis, people pretend to own things that they don't with just a promise to pay...and when they don't pay en masse the system fails...no one is entitled...as Will says "the whole world gets really fucking fair really fucking fast." THAT should be taught in schools to the morons that can't wait to over-spend when they get out and think people should be prosecuted for "the music slowing" as Peter describes it....

@haizee2330

2 жыл бұрын

To say people don't own homes because they haven't paid cash is quite an insidious proposition. The banking system creates and drives the prices of houses and the mean median wage. The two don't stack up so it's a self fulfilling prophecy of debt. If the only way to buy a home was cash then the bank's wouldn't exist and we would probably have a much fairer system. Ie. The cost of a house wouldn't be equivalent to 20 years of savings and be an ever moving goal post

@norrispg4212

2 жыл бұрын

@@haizee2330 sure banks would exist and there is nothing inherently unfair about the system since no one is "owed" anything in this world - especially an ill-advised mortgage...the market growth would simply be slower, but the upside would be that it would be more sound...there's a direct correlation between the safety of the housing market and the amount people put down, but even if people put down 75% and borrowed 25% an economic downturn could still result in losing the house since there is no guarantee of appreciation, plus people forget that they could lose their job...sure, looser lending can create a more robust housing market, but it is also more susceptible to a collapse...not understanding the system, whether intentionally or unintentionally, has periodically lead to heartache for the borrower, which we have seen on average of about every 15 years

@DPdestructi0n

2 жыл бұрын

There are kernels of truth in there for sure, but in my opinion the film is presenting that speech as how those kind of guys justify their value to themselves. Not arguing if it’s true or not. Imo, the general sentiment is pretty accurate but there’s a lot of nuance missing as well that kind of makes it meaningless.

Seth never truly understood the gravity of the situation until it was too late. It’s interesting that Seth was a passenger in Will’s car because at that point in his career he was just along for the ride with no control over his fate. “Yeah. Almost definitely, yes.”

None of my friends enjoyed this movie, I loved it. It is a dumb down version of things but done so beautifully so as to be accessible for all and yet I don't hear enough about this movie. The dialogue, atmosphere, audio and many other small little things just come together in this movie reminds me of another movie "The Last Man on Earth", it was another wonderful movie with nothing but dialogue, premise and intelligent use of soundtracks holding it together. Also, I'm watching this in 480p and the video is freaking crisp as a potato chip.

@QuirkyAvik

2 жыл бұрын

Correction: I miswrote "The Last Man on Earth" instead of "The Man from Earth (2007)".

@NoticerOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

I wish it hadn’t been dumbed down. I wish they’d shown the models and broken down the MBS holdings and mechanics of the crash better for people. The only thing that bothers me about this movie is seems like this where it’s basically just actors reacting to an invisible boogie man. Feels plastic. If they had carefully laid out exactly what the company held, leverage and basically the rules and stakes of the MBS’s beforehand so the audience discovered it along with the character it would have really educated a ton of people

@Synaps4

2 жыл бұрын

@@QuirkyAvik You can edit your comments.

@OliverPolyzois

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoticerOfficial oh, I so disagree with you on this. Sure students at university might enjoy digging deep down into the economics of the MBS, CDO’s, etc. But for the average movie goer you just need a basic understanding of what is going on and the risks people are facing. The DRAMA! No one gives a rats ass about the in depth economics when sitting in a movie theater and filling their face with popcorn. The economics of it are interesting, but it needs a totally different setting.

@OliverPolyzois

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, this movie is a masterpiece. But it might not be for everyone.

The higher up the bad news gets, the more you get the feeling nobody is surprised. In fact, the idea that the low rank guys actually figured it out is what seems to be the thing that makes them act. If these grunts figured it out, the jig is up, dump it all.

I love it when you are working late in the office when everyone else has gone. Somehow it seems different and you are not in such a rush to get away.

it's no coincident that big short and margin calls are two of my favorite movies of all time based on the number of times they have been rewatched. personal bias, great acting by all casts aside, it must have something with the storyline that is intrinsically riveting and most of us have lived through it.

I have watched this scene many times. Check out how the soundtrack changes from 0.58 to the pivotal moment of the film 3.25 and then silence. Absolutely phenomenal. Thats how you create an atmosphere! Should be on every film students must watch list. 'Mama there's Wolves in the House' They got that right, and they are still here in 2022.

I never get tired of this movie!

Best David Fincher film not directed by Fincher.

@PretentiousStuff

4 жыл бұрын

this film wouldn't have worked with fincher's aspect ratio and cinematography

@JosephDutra

4 жыл бұрын

And Best written Aaron Sorkin film not written by Aaron Sorkin.

I seriously FUCKING love this movie so much. I'm a scifi/fantasy nerd, but there is something so goddamn mesmerizing about watching amazing actors look, act, and talk like corporate. I have no idea, maybe b/c it feels so real/natural (and my experience IN corporate environments). One of my favorite things about this movie is how each one breaks the horrific news to their boss. The higher up starts out annoyed, but then the subordinate cuts to the chase eventually and gives that one SERIOUS line or look and the game instantly changes and they get dead serious. Just simply some of THE best acting oncreen in history. Thank god for this gem.

Spacey sad over his dog, then kills one in opening of House of Cards. The range of that guy.

3:35 a brilliant foreshadowing of the director later saying "I don't hear the music at all" and the music cutting. Showing he's discovered the shit storm. Brilliant acting and use of sound to convey the delivery.

Seth doesn't do much in the movie but I feel he plays an important role. Throughout the movie it is shown each level of management understands less and less details of what actually goes on, getting more and more "big picture". Even Will doesn't understand the VAR stuff Peter talks about. But Seth does, he's the one other person who is able to give a proper look at the numbers and confirm to Will things are really bad. Will says "Are we sure the numbers are right" and Peter says "Looks pretty right". If Seth had then said "Pete, it's late and this doesn't look right, let's look at it tomorrow" or "I don't think you're right" then Will might not have had the confidence to call Sam, who then calls Jared, who then calls the entire Board. His "It does" might well have saved the entire company. Seth says almost nothing after this scene, beyond crying in the toilet, but he's an essential domino to knock over Will by saying "Peter is right and this is bad", else Will might have just swigged his drink and said "You're probably over thinking something, let's leave it till tomorrow".

One of my favourite movies. Paul Bettany, Kevin Spacey, Jeremy Irons. It is a masterpiece, in fact, I am going to rent it Apple TV $2

Till this day, they're still searching for Eric Dale

How this movie didn’t win multiple Academy Awards is a mystery to me.

An interesting detail I noticed while watching these shorts is that Peter takes off his earbuds the moment he realizes how much trouble the company is in. At the end of the movie when he’s giving Tuld the news himself. Tuld says “the music has stopped”. Literally and figuratively, yes, in this scene.

I CANNOT stress how great this movie is. The story, acting, and the writing are mind blowing.

Great slow burn scene.

That rising string bass note at 3:21 when he becomes aware of the potential for total ruin is just one of many very well executed details in this extraordinarily compelling film

I absolutely loved this movie. Watched it three times