My "Map Men" bros go way back with the mappa mundi

@thomash6933

Ай бұрын

MAP MEN MAP MEN MAP MAP MAP MEN MEN

@timmmahhhh

Ай бұрын

​@@thomash6933...men men men men men men men men...

@ayanlefarah318

16 күн бұрын

Its not the same mappa mundi

Thumbnail did its job

@raclark2730

2 ай бұрын

Men of culture.

@Bhisma_official369

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂yeah

@hohepa8501

Ай бұрын

Nice maps

@steinnhjalmir

Ай бұрын

Fo sho

@acarna6669

Ай бұрын

I thought I was alone 😂

I would like to see more detail on the map and its locations.

@danidejaneiro8378

2 ай бұрын

google is your friend

@RogySan

Ай бұрын

It literally says in the video that the map was made in the 15th century by the venician monk Fra Mauro and that it is kept in the Library of Saint Mark in Venice, also known as Biblioteca Marciana.

@christianfrommuslim

Ай бұрын

@@RogySan Yes, the location of the map was clear. I was asking it for more details on the locations illustrated on the map, the understanding of the world as it was at the time, and how that has changed. This would of course require a much longer video.

@mrquirky3626

Ай бұрын

I don't think I can post the link here but if you search for 'mappa mundi' on the BBC news web site for the article, it contains a link in the ninth paragraph to an interactive digital version of the map where you can zoom right in and see all the details.

@Dave1507

Ай бұрын

You know where it is now...

Who did the sound levels for this video?

@CubicSpline7713

Ай бұрын

KZread is supposed to automatically correct, but failed here.

@OutWestRedDirt

Ай бұрын

​@@CubicSpline7713this isn't a ma and pa video, sound got failed by creator and KZread

@binchamers

29 күн бұрын

@@CubicSpline7713youtube cant fix audio levels between multiple things in the video bro

@hugolafhugolaf

25 күн бұрын

Someone hired by the BBC based on diversity criteria instead of actual competence.

@shinrapresident7010

14 күн бұрын

@@user-fe1gb9uc1t DEI ruins everything it touches.

Audio levels are all over the place, and many shots are lacking basic color correction. Come on BBC, you're better than this!

@adamfrbs9259

Ай бұрын

You're way too far down your own rabbit hole on this topic. The general public is pretty stupid, I mean c'mon, McDonald's added numbers to the meal combos decades ago to help idiots order food. Most people are too high or dumb or both to even notice lol.

@grondhero

Ай бұрын

No, they're not. Not really. 😂

@FSVR54

Ай бұрын

@@grondhero 20 year ago, but not today

@maxfmfdm

29 күн бұрын

The standard is sadly rock bottom today.

@hugolafhugolaf

25 күн бұрын

No they are not.

The website of the Museo Galileo has an entire site dedicated to this map, which includes (buried in section 2) the possibility of navigating it in great detail. It's great to be able to zoom in and see the details, read the places, identify where they are today. Keep in mind that it also has little drawings of palaces, temples, sepulchers, etc. It's like being Indiana Jones on a budget. There's also a "fra-mauro-transcriptions" PDF somewhere online, that has the list of all the toponyms, and texts translated and annotated relating the map to modern day.

this is really interesting, I wish it was longer

The biggest Mappa Mundi is in Hereford Cathedral. It hung on a wall there unprotected and unstudied for centuries before anybody thought it'd be pretty neat to actually preserve the thing. It has these fantastic depictions of the various mythical beasts thought to reside pretty much "anywhere that is not here".

@Peter-ov6xh

Ай бұрын

You sound really smug.

@NarasimhaDiyasena

Ай бұрын

Some of these maps are depictions of the inner earth. No im not bs’ing.

@woundedidiot429

Ай бұрын

Nah bro chill​@@Peter-ov6xh

@jayhache5609

Ай бұрын

@@Peter-ov6xh The narrator was the one who immediately brought up size, implying that Mauro’s map is the largest, when it is not. So, OP did us a service letting us know which map is the largest. Good on him. Not so good on BBC and the video producer. As for accusing OP of being ‘smug'… Is English your first language?

@Peter-ov6xh

Ай бұрын

@@jayhache5609 I didn't dispute his handle on the facts.

This is so intriguing.

After watched this from the start to the end, I'm still wondering who the lady in the thumbnail is......

@eksiarvamus

2 ай бұрын

Nonsense, she is integral to the story.

@Shaun.Stephens

Ай бұрын

She's what's called 'clickbait'.

@rizkyadiyanto7922

Ай бұрын

​@@Shaun.Stephensassbait

@user-wr8fg4lh5v

Ай бұрын

Baddie

@ikarusxv

Ай бұрын

I think it's the same interviewer, just with a good take

It's incredible how orienting it differently changes it so much. I was thinking that the map wasn't nearly accurate compared to modern maps, but decent for medieval maps, but then once It was rotated it was amazing how close it was to reality.

Such a beautiful map

Very interesting 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Looking at that thumbnail, i can tell that this is quite a unique situation where the booty leads one to the map instead of the other way around.

Fundamental, is legend good work

Really cool!!!

Juan de la cosa, the first mapa mundi of the new world. In Madrid is amaizing

Nice informative 👍

Where can I watch the full show?

Al idrissi map was very close in accuracy and 3 centuries older, he probably doesn't have the most accurate map in medival times but he's defintely the greatest cartographer

@nassimmohammed9479

Ай бұрын

HE SIMPLY USED IT ; YES THIS GUY USED AL IDRISSI MAP BUT THEY OCCURED IT ;

@walther2492

16 күн бұрын

Humans always travelled and humans always created maps of their travels. That's why you can find maps as old as humanity itself. Al-Idrisi did nothing more than adding his gained information into already existing concepts and maps, creating a more detailed version. Like every cartographer before.

@user-sv5jv6cu7p

16 күн бұрын

@@walther2492 Where did I say he's the first one to draw a map, everyone builds on the existing just because that exist doesn't mean every invention or discovery is equal, his maps and works revolutionezed cartoctaphy, he was baisacally the father of late medival cartography

Great video

My ex wife knew how much I love maps and took all mine out of spite but I still have my 1941 Colliers World Atlas and Gazetteer. It shows the territories under German and Japanese (axis) control. I have much older books but I love it.

*Just curious, isn't the 'Mappa Mundi' map situated at the Hereford Cathedral in 🇬🇧UK (rather than 🇮🇹Venice)?* 🤔

@mikey50boy

2 ай бұрын

Yes your right the Mappa Mundi is indeed in Hereford Cathedral along with the Chained Library one of the City’s popular tourist sites,but apparently their are 1,100Mappa Mundai’s that survived from the Middle Ages . Hereford’s is the biggest and from about 1300

@danilocaccamese9597

2 ай бұрын

"Mappa Mundi" is latin for "World Map", in italian today we say "Mappamondo" to refer a chart or map about the earth. So, every of this is a "Mappa Mundi/World Map". It will be better if named the by his author "World Map of Fra Mauro". In Italy that map is called "Mappamondo di san Mauro". For the the english one, in known to me as "Hereford Mappa Mundi". I hope that will help.

Nice map

1:25 Sri Lanka 😍😍 2:07 Marco Polo 2:40 House 3:00 Combined 3:20 Columbus

Great tush

It is with her standing in front of it for sure.

Does it include the 10 dash line?

The cartographer apparently knew about Japan, and yet he also apparently thought Japan had a medieval fortified city. It’s interesting how cultural assumptions remain even among scientists.

@patreekotime4578

2 ай бұрын

Ughhh.... They had armoured chivalric knights, the most famed blacksmiths in the world making thier swords, kings in castles, princesses and dragons, peasants, monks and merchants.... everything that would be familiar to late medieval European people. They may have all looked slightly different, but the fundamentals where there.

@garotadagavea

2 ай бұрын

@@patreekotime4578exactly. Their castles may have different esthetics, but they are still castles.

@w.w.sakbeh571

2 ай бұрын

There were no chivalrous knights in Japan. Chivalry was the Christian-based code governing the life conduct of European knights. In the context of Japan, one refers to samurai and the code of boushido. True, there were castles in medieval Japan (some remain intact and are listed as UNESCO World Heritage sites), but to my knowledge there were no fortified towns (only the defensive castle was fortified). Those details aside, your point is well taken.

@patreekotime4578

2 ай бұрын

@@w.w.sakbeh571 If you described the code of Boshido to a travelling 15th century Christian who didnt speak Japanese they would instantly recognize their own code of honorable knights. If you travel the world, you encounter familiar things the world over because humans are humans... we find similar solutions to similar problems, and we recognize the familiar despite the differences.

@w.w.sakbeh571

2 ай бұрын

That goes without saying and is an extremely reductionist understanding of both chivalry and bushidou!

Why do I have a sudden desire to watch orson Welles.

Man, my grandfather from Peru used to call all world maps by this name Mappa Mundi, I guess I never adked why

@TheAlchaemist

Ай бұрын

Because in Spanish, un mapamundi is precisely that. It's a loan word from Latin of course. And literally means "map of the world" :)

@ikarusxv

Ай бұрын

I used to hear this word a lot when I was a kid in the 90s in Chile, but I think it became obsolete.

Now i want to lift the curtain

Maps maps❤❤🎉🎉

Just as I was gonna ask why Japan is left and not right on the map she explains the orientation 😅

Love the orientation of the map, really shows that to Venetians with water to the South would culturally see the world as "upside down" to how we see it, and showcasing that our very idea of north and south are largely arbitrary, at least during this time. To be fair, the invention of the compass changes such, as being in the northern hemisphere the reliance on such navigation upped the importance of the idea of north in general over that of the south. Then there is the fact that the coastline is overly exaggerated, which again makes sense as for those without a clear idea of Earth from orbit, those dramatic coastlines seem far more impactful than they are in a larger sense. So the coast emphasizes what are more likely very specific outcroppings of coast, that from the scale depicted by the mundi map would instead look like straight ish lines. Very curious how off they are with the gulf of persia and the shape of Saudi Arabia, really shows how quickly their knowledge runs out. Even with the proximity to the mediterranean, the lack of a simple canal (there was a restrictive one into the red sea on and off before the Suez) means that while the mediterranean is clearly completely understood, the handoff of goods to middlemen in the levant means that knowledge of the coasts completely fall off. If there was a water bridge between the med and the red, this would probably not be the case at all. And then, there are only vague impressions of the rest of the east. So very fascinating, and incredible. What I would do to spend a day in medieval venice. Being a port of trade, and a culturally open place because of it, if I had to spend time in the medieval world I would go from dead in a week somewhere like Britain, to able to eek out a life in shrewd venice, at least with some luck! Helps that knowing latin roots and italian would go further there (with some difficulty) than trying to parcel out the quickly changing English language of that period.

Music is too loud, some interview dialogue too quite...

@paddyoak1

10 күн бұрын

Quiet

Numidia 👀

ancient maps are just glorious pieces of art....not really accurate, but beautiful nonetheless!

It die not prove that was possible to go around Africa before the portuguese, it just shows water since they did not knew what else to put in. You can technically go north aswell from that map. It is just a représentation but the truth is they did not knew if was possible for boats to go there without being shipwrecked.

3rd eye, shiva lingam/stargate/genie objects

cheers

Additional to that who is curious to know more to look up for Al Idrisi Norman king Roger II era

Italians have a zig zag speech.

This mini doc is 10/10! The ending with crisopher columbus omggg!

The accent of the narrator is the new standard for the BBC.

@paddyoak1

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, I was wondering about that

@vila777_

8 күн бұрын

this is bbc global, i don’t see why they can’t have global narrators

This map challenges the narrative and I love that

@icefalls

2 ай бұрын

What narrative?

@hellomoto2084

Ай бұрын

Flat Earth is not real brother .

man trying to get to babylon

pappa puppu

Weren't most -- if not all -- European medieval mapa mundi surrounded by a large world ocean whereby Africa was always believed to be -- conceptually at least -- 'roundable'? Or did the narrator simply mean that Fra Mauro suggested in his notes that this was a realistic prospect whereas previously it was dismissed as too big a feat?

@hollyjaw3303

11 күн бұрын

Yes, there's a note in which he describes recent Portugues findings of a suitable course to round Africa, with gentle beaches and shallow waters, useful to resupply during the navigation

All books deserve pillows

Looked like the Wonder Woman scene didn't it?

Not a single mention of Arab maps, after which Renaissance era maps were designed, even the most basic orientation (upside down) is following the Islamic Golden Age model of maps.

@thespeedyeagle

16 күн бұрын

That's normal western propaganda for you.

@carlobrotto7132

14 күн бұрын

Why this need of mentioning the arab maps if actually the video is a focus about this one ? It would have been unnecessary and useless, unless the BBC reporter was supposed to fit the inferiority complex of some Arabs ...

@thespeedyeagle

14 күн бұрын

@@carlobrotto7132 this is basic academic requirement. A similar example would be Newton's law of gravity. The Muslims in Spain were building aqueducts using the law of Gravity. All of a sudden it's his law. He was most likely reading an Arabic book on gravity when that apple fell on his head. Rather this is a common tactic to show fake superiority and undermine the contribution of a civilisation that was the very foundation of the renaissance of Europe.

@carlobrotto7132

14 күн бұрын

@@thespeedyeagle the only academic basic such eminent "intellectuals" of socials as you can learn is how to hold with history ( I mean the real history and not the fake one you build up in your bizarre statements) and how to pick up a written book again and just read it . Best wishes to your Arabic discover of gravity law ...😂😂

@historyinobjects

13 күн бұрын

@@carlobrotto7132 Maybe because the focus of this video was the GREATEST MAP OF THE MEDIEVAL WORLD" and last i checked the Islamic golden age was part of th medieval world that followed the antiquaty period (pre-Islam). How about learn some basics before embarrassing yourself.

..Yes Parmesan cheese, Thanks

I would like to pretend like this map matters at all today

Marco polo was THE MAN who brought Europe into rennaisance.

serious BBC is no stranger to clickbaity things

I don’t know why but this map looks very similar to the Islamic cartographer’s, Al-Idrisi🧐🤨 (not sarcasm btw so people don’t interpret it differently)

Small quibble…. but putting Eden on the side of the map, as if it wasn’t a real place, was not a “modern” idea. Theologians dating back centuries before this map would have agreed that Eden was not a physical location to be found on earth, but a metaphorical “place” for mankind’s prelapsarian spiritual existence. In the late first century AD, Origen of Alexandria, one of the earliest fathers of the Christian church, argued that parts of the creation narratives obviously were not literal: “who is so silly,” he asked, “as to believe that God, after the manner of a farmer, ‘planted a paradise eastward in Eden,’ and set in it a visible and palpable ‘tree of life.” We think of the idea of not taking scripture literally is a modern development, but actually the opposite is true. Biblical literalism of the more recent American evangelical strain was created by 18th and 19th century Protestants in reaction to increasing attacks on biblical inerrancy from enlightenment philosophers and scientists. In earlier Christian eras, biblical interpretation was more nuanced and sophisticated. It’s no accident that monks and priests made some of the most important scientific and technical discoveries of western culture over the centuries. Their devotion to God inspired a passion to understand God’s creation from the motions of the stars and planets (Copernicus and Galileo) to genetics (Mendel) to geology (Steno) to the Big Bang (Lemetre).

@mnossy11

Ай бұрын

Spot on!

Some people claim India didn't exist 100 years ago. I wonder what the term 'India' in this map means. 🤔

@walther2492

16 күн бұрын

India as a state, because they were occupied by the British.

@hollyjaw3303

11 күн бұрын

On the map he also speaks of Italy, but of course Italy as a state was 400 years away. It's a geographical map that represents regions as the were known. Very few political organisation are mentioned, one of which is Cathai (Cina)

2:40 sad to see all that graffiti on the walls !

I am somehow confused that a monk in the 15th. Century paints Palasts all over Asia but shows Rome, the center of Christianity, as a small village without any explanation

@TravellerdeLux

27 күн бұрын

Rome stopped being an important city long before the middle ages started which makes sense given that without the empire it holds no strategic value whatsoever, it doesn't have any peculiar or important products and the population was never keen to enterprise, Venice was much bigger and richer, as Palermo, Ravenna an other cities. furthermore in that period the Papato was an instable institution they had up to 3 popes at the same time all declaring the other ones were illegitimate so Rome was really just a big village

@AURELIUSxx

27 күн бұрын

@@TravellerdeLux so we both think the same, for the most people it is since 2.000 years the center of Christianity

@TravellerdeLux

27 күн бұрын

@@AURELIUSxx it's not what i think it is history, the king of france moved the pope to Avignone for almost 100 hundred years, furthermore one could ask what kind of christian are you the pope is the head of the catholic church not of Christianity, if you dig deeper the catholic church almost dissapeared a couple times it was saved out of political consideration by Napoleon first, Garibaldi and the fist king of Italy second, Mussolini third, the idea of the Catholic church that we have now is all based on the work of Pope Giovanni Paolo II history tells us that it is definitely a failed institution with many flaws and dark moments, and definitely Rome is not an important city even nowadays if we took the national government out tomorrow it would be just a big city with some amazing archeological sites

Another reason to definitely state the Venice is the most beautiful city on earth!

What about the Mappa Mundi in Hereford Cathedral? How are these two different…

@walther2492

16 күн бұрын

Mappa Mundi basically just means World Map.

I wonder if and why it would be considered better than Medieval Islamic maps?

I like her

@andrewtheworldcitizen

Ай бұрын

why don't you marry her then....

@hellomoto2084

Ай бұрын

​@@andrewtheworldcitizenI will , if I could and if she agreed.

1459 is not that far in the history. Other civilizations had better knowledge of world geography. Vasco de Gama was guided to India from the Cape of Good Hope by an Indian merchant-navigator. Columbus landed in America and called it India and the people, Indian; a mistake even celebrated today!

@paulopacifici

22 күн бұрын

Celebrated by the European colonizers and devastated news for the original people.

Split second of the map for you to see north up, and then cut away time again. So a piece about a map they don't want you to see.

Boy I’m a sucker

I can't understand the narrator

The video could have been done in a more professional manner.

fire the editor. Sound on this is unacceptably bad, even for a youtube piece

Fra Mauro didn't have to leave Venice because the geographer Muhammad Al-Idrisi did the travelling for him 300 years ago before he was born. BBC crafty as always.

@walther2492

16 күн бұрын

Humans always travelled and humans always created maps of their travels. That's why you can find maps as old as humanity itself. Al-Idrisi did nothing more than adding his gained information into already existing concepts and maps, creating a more detailed version. Like every cartographer before.

@thespeedyeagle

15 күн бұрын

@@walther2492 that's true, except you will find his map to be very identical to the one shown here. I think it does a lot of injustice to not mention the original creator of this particular map.

@walther2492

15 күн бұрын

@@thespeedyeagle Very identical? Did you ever had a look at it? Pro tip: go to wiki, open the pictures of both and compare it. Than come back and try again. And mappa mundi is latin and means analogously "world map". Do you know why it has a latin name? Exactly.

@thespeedyeagle

15 күн бұрын

​@@walther2492I've seen them both, one is simply an evolution of the other, we are talking about 300 years in between. But if you don't see the striking resemblance and don't see the academic justification to mention Idrisi, I've nothing to say.

Caution 'Primary School Syllabus' content may cause 'primary school childern' to be active in the comments/shitposting.

Poor sound design

in year 800 900 abbassids made complete map even with australia and antartica

@walther2492

16 күн бұрын

No, they didn't. You fell for some fake information. The earliest map is from 1154, by Muhammad al-Idrisi, and includes nether Australia, nor Antarctica.

Why the bot voice?

I only have one question, is it Israel or Palestine on the map?

@imperiald3864

13 күн бұрын

From that era, it the area would be under the Mamluk Sultanate. So what u would see would be the province of Syria-Palestina, which would be modern day Israel, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. So neither a country of Israel Or Palestine would be on that map. Israel had not existed for thousands of years as a soveirgn nation and palestine had never existed as a soverign nation. .

Mappa Mundi: The greatest map of the medieval world... But never mind that, have a look at my arse.

@ColtraneTaylor

27 күн бұрын

BBC to BBA ... Big Big Ass.

There are over 1,000 extant mappa mundi. Mappa mundi is not a uniquely identifying name.

Whoever did the sound and the colour grading needs to go back to school.

Venice was the "New York of the medieval world" in what sense?

@TheAlchaemist

Ай бұрын

They had tons of money, huge commerce and made interesting orgies.

@carlobrotto7132

14 күн бұрын

In your opinion , in what sense ?...

@user-vw6bk4pb4l

14 күн бұрын

​@@carlobrotto7132 I associate New York with globalisation. Venice's golden age was during the Renaissance period not the medieval period.

1:41 PALESTIN

So Marco Polo was a backpacker? Travels the world but only really talks to other backpackers, and therefore ends up with a distorted view of most things. My brother is like that

@carlobrotto7132

14 күн бұрын

Marco Polo's family were merchants and obviously backpapers at the age. Once he got to China , he became a relevant official and diplomatic of the Khan .All his lifelong work is reputed a template of western world, his view of things was hugely smart, logic & deep, incredibly nearer to the mentality of the modern man than to that of a medieval one .

basically he copied an Arab map

that is the 11 dash line of china

Lmao very few people are living “good lives” in NYC

Ti's a fine Mundi, but ti's no Salvador Mundi English

Swear Europeans are the best.

@hellomoto2084

Ай бұрын

Lol not even close. Be happy that Arabs have come to civilise you and have understood true meaning of white mans burden

@giacaro180

Ай бұрын

​@@hellomoto2084 not even remotely, but nice try

Literally copied Arabian map by Muhammad ibn Abdallah ibn Idris called al-idrisi map or tablet rogeriana.

@TheAlchaemist

Ай бұрын

LOL come on! you are taking all the epic out of the video :) hahahaha but yes, this comment should be pinned at the top.

@giacaro180

Ай бұрын

Fra Mauro did a better job.

Africa could be sailed before the Portuguese made their map

woman body sells

FLATEARTH WAKE TF UP SHEEP

"Why do the water clouds come from the west?" "Why does the warm moist air come from the south in the northern hemisphere?" "Why are the new moon tides a pale shadow of things to come (Noah's east to west tidal tsunamis)?" Jesus the son of God our father is the truth life & only way. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Let God our father be the truth & every man a liar when it comes to the cause of these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change end times due to the mystery of the 7 star crossings Jesus held in his hand. Blessed are those who are poor in spirit of God for they know they are not God's and are not causing these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change end times due to the mystery of the 7 star crossings Jesus held in his hand. Otherwise known as the precession of the sun's shadow millennial alpha omega equinoxes of he great Year, Magnetic north, Yugas, Mayan calendar, Long march, etc. The new moon will pull the first of Noah's tidal tsunamis out & around the planet east to west with the first major conjunction of mercury & venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes the earth;s orbits to pass between the fermie cells of the Sun's OOrt cloud magnetosphere. The truth shall set humanity free from the leaven half truths of the pharisees/pharaohs.

I'm trying to get to Babylon.... Where are we?

No New World on that map.

@pinchevulpes

Ай бұрын

Nothing new about it

@Dara-wk5ty

Ай бұрын

@@pinchevulpes Even TED ED calls it new world (while also mentioning that its a bit controversial)

@pinchevulpes

Ай бұрын

@@Dara-wk5ty what’s your point?

Italian accent of english.😂

there was no "rossia" till 1721!

Proof that the earth is flat!

@walther2492

16 күн бұрын

Proof that your brain is flat!

So eurocentric…mappamundi - marco polo - cristoforo colombo… it s absurd. Ibn al Battuta? Al Idrisi? Piri Reis? Naah!

@saurishghosh2142

17 күн бұрын

Ibn al Battuta came to a town on the banks of Ganges in 1230s. , its just 20 km away from my home (then the area was under the control of Delhi Sultans), and Im from West Bengal , India. strange to think about that,

Mappa ? Mauip'PAH Moon-Dee * Japan just to the left of India... Lol