gotta commend them for helping so many people get out of addiction habits. good for them.

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

Now we need the rest of the MMO’s that have predatory practices to pull similar stunts..

@premium2550

6 ай бұрын

They care our health

@Baesic

6 ай бұрын

Not really, their business motto is pay to win. They want to have a meso cap so that we can pay to bypass the cap or even purchase meso from the cs like we did before.

@zhontigue

6 ай бұрын

@@Baesic enjoy

@dastamararoseyork

6 ай бұрын

this doesnt help. this actually will make it worse. it means ppl will just use alts more just to do the things the other characters they have cant. it fixes nothing. it even makes gold sellers more sought after who do use other methods to farm gold and sell it, just means more money in their pockets. if a company wants to prove they seriously hate their players, this is the perfect example.

The meso cap is probably so that nexon can become the main meso supplier. I think they are trying to move from selling cubes to selling meso so that they can keep screwing with the odds without consequences.

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

That’s a great plan.. Except we have a shrinking middle class and not everyone wants to invest money into something entirely digital.

@Eustres

6 ай бұрын

@@Aeterny 80/20 rule can apply here, the minority of players make most of the profit. They don't need huge amount of players, they need whales and enough players for the whales to keep playing.

@LenWins

6 ай бұрын

think you figured it out

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

@@Eustres The whales need to eventually come to terms with the reality that if they remain and continue to keep the game afloat without all of the little people who left, they get to witness more restrictions and unpopular implementations until the game is unplayable. Discord users say players in KMS are jumping for joy over these changes because they don’t like GMS Reboot, MapleStory has basically made a permanent division within the community that play on different servers of the same game.. Someone needs to remind them that they won’t be laughing for long once this gets implemented, because reality will set in.

@XDerpz

6 ай бұрын

correct.

they’re killing it this year 🔥🔥🔥

@dhrvagrerfn8080

6 ай бұрын

Literally

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

Putting themselves out of a job for no reason.

@miiko7859

6 ай бұрын

@@Aeterny What are you talking about? They will get more money from you if you play the normal servers.

@dhrvagrerfn8080

6 ай бұрын

@@miiko7859 nah, Maple was dying before reboot. Reboot actually is the reason why maple still alive. But whatever, it seems that they don't care anymore

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

@@miiko7859 I guess you need additional explanation, all the talk in the official Discord servers points to this being the nail in the coffin for GMS if this is implemented since a majority seem to play in Reboot servers and I doubt players in KMS will like this once they actually have to deal with the meso limit. GMS will lose its player base and KMS won’t last much longer, hence why I said Nexon is putting itself out of a job.

Honestly, I was holding back on trying other games because I wanted to focus on Maple, but I think it’s time to go and explore other options again.

@cringe4173

6 ай бұрын

try Sea of Stars its amazing

@gratefuldeadmau5610

6 ай бұрын

I'm playing through red dead 1 undead nightmare then 2 then bg3 again

@JFNoordHolland

6 ай бұрын

Aeon mps 🎉

@namelessman6992

6 ай бұрын

Same, gonna start bauldur s gate finally

@schonkigplavuis8850

6 ай бұрын

I wanted to slow down and found Honkai Starrail. Which has a great farming armor building mechanic and laid back playstyle. except for the story at higher levels..

Nexon: we've been unfaithful and lied to the community , here's some nerfs coming. Happy 2024

@anonomyss

6 ай бұрын

"We definitely don't hate you all"

The crazy thing is that this is in response to being caught rigging the potential system and the response in no way involves any mention of them fixing the potential system, just changing it to mesos so they can't get in trouble for continuing to rig the system.

@FAQUERETERMAX

6 ай бұрын

It DoEsN't CoSt Nx BeCaUsE yOu CaN uSe GaMe CuRrEnCy So It'S oK nOw

@ThyartisDanny

6 ай бұрын

They did say in the original live stream that 3L BD, IED, DROP and MESO will be possible after the change.

@ThyartisDanny

6 ай бұрын

They’re still fuckwits for these changes though.

@Victor79632

6 ай бұрын

@@ThyartisDanny bro what’s the usage of 3line Mesos when there is a mesos cap?

@anonomyss

6 ай бұрын

​@@FAQUERETERMAXSo insert a second fake currency between real cash and the product, and all of a sudden rigging is allowed because players didn't directly buy the product with legal tender... Diabolical. They're not sorry in the slightest and it's highkey insulting.

Returning player here. After seeing those nerfs I believe my maplestory journey has come to an end, like- forever.

@kimE2017

6 ай бұрын

Me too, I'm going back to chess. Can't believe how willing Nexon is to burn their own game.

@decro3177

6 ай бұрын

Yep, i was already clinging on by a thread but this is the line for me. The only thing that keeps me grinding is mesos going up, exp is so slow seeing my mesos go brr keeps me going. without that then what

@yongjianli8190

6 ай бұрын

whats chess btw?@@kimE2017

I'd love to sit in on one of these board meetings, for any company that actively screws it's consumer base, just to see what logical pathing gives way to these kinds of decisions... Unless internal staff is afraid to push back and criticize the higher ups, I just can't make sense of it... It actually blows my mind.

@ImSarius

6 ай бұрын

I mean, I'd kill to be a fly on the wall in the Nexon NA offices right about now; Imagine the adrenaline rush when you walk into the office that morning and realizing that Nexon Korea just announced changes that'd decimate your main userbase in your region hahah

@anonomyss

6 ай бұрын

FYI the seniority power gap in Korea is one of the largest in the world. The employees who would actually play and enjoy this game are likely young adults, and the old farts at the top are just telling them to find the best way to fatten their pockets without getting caught. I don't imagine any of the workers want to step on toes to stand up for players who won't be paying their rent when they're fired, especially when it's already so difficult to get a well paying job in Korea.

@yongjianli8190

6 ай бұрын

On your "unless" point, it's Korea, one of the most hierarchical countries in the world, so yes, no employee will ever challenge a high-up's decision. This trait is followed by Japan and China, arguably.

@AyoItsAntony

6 ай бұрын

As others have said it’s pretty deep ingrained cultural pressure, questioning senior management is almost unheard of

@MrFloat777

4 ай бұрын

I’ve been saying this for well over a decade. I grew up in a “business” family, so I’m usually spot on when it comes to deriving motives when businesses or people make changes or decisions but with nexon, I’m perplexed everytime. I see no benefit to this. I know most players won’t delve this deep because whatever I get it but I’m a numbers person. If you look at analytical data over the last 2-3 years for nexon, these decisions don’t make sense. My best bet is that the Maplestory department is already hurting and this is a “betting on red” situation. One thing I can assure everyone here, they know this will piss almost all their players off, they know it hurts the players and they know it’s “bad” for the players. It’s very clear that nexon does not have playerbase in mind when making decisions, aside from the fact of how to get the players to spend more. They don’t care for the players well-being, or fun or positive experiences. It’s archaic and make no mistake, they will eventually go under. Companies like nexon always go under.

the irony of there being an apology in their statement for taking advantage of them, then giving the middle finger to not just their entire KMS reboot population, but *every* other regions, too. Not surprising, they've been slowly making changes to make Reboot more and more like reg servers, if it isn't this it'll be something else later

If this happens, that's it for me. I will quit and never return. The 150 mil cap per day is not even one full wap right now. Having to train 6x as long for the same amount of meso is beyond insane. This is ridiculous.

@minilabyrinth

6 ай бұрын

Actually if it comes to gms then so does the 1x meso rate so a full wap would give you 4x less meso than before. So in the big picture you'd be grinding the same amount as usual, and then you'd have significantly less cube/starforce attempts due to higher prices/less meso income

@oppaluv

6 ай бұрын

Cya brooo :(

I have never been a MapleStory doomsayer. The 6th job sol erda cap was the closest I've gotten to worrying that the game is ruined. If this change goes through, I genuinely believe it will singlehandedly end MapleStory overnight, at least in the west.

@anonymousl5150

6 ай бұрын

The sol erda cap was nothing, most people still don't meet the previous intended cap per day. The real problem with the sol erda system was always the fragments, not even the sol erda energy which is plentiful. This meso nerf to reboot will be the biggest nerf reboot will ever see considering 6x meso has been the biggest incentive to playing reboot.

@TeeQueueSA

6 ай бұрын

@@anonymousl5150 bro the previous cap was 400 erda energy/day, so that with the 600 from dailies you'd be able to hit a whole sol erda every day. I hit that much erda *doing my dailies.* It was, in fact, that bad.

@anonymousl5150

6 ай бұрын

@@TeeQueueSA It doesn't matter because everyone even just doing dailies has a shit ton of sol erda left over while being capped by fragments. In addition 12 guaranteed fragments for 15 min of work was a huge gain over kms.

@JBLZFTW

6 ай бұрын

the problem is, nexon has had their hands on the plug for GMS for years, as soon as it stops being profitable in the slightest they'll kill it because all they care about is KMS. For a company that's so openly xenophobic i'm actually surprised they've kept GMS going as long as they have

Every time I become a active player, Nexon does something that makes me become a seasonal player or quit entirely. Like, with the Hyperion Update, I accomplished so many things I used to dream about: I'm almost LVL 260; I can finally solo Hard Magnus, Three Doors CRA, and LoMian; I even got a LoMian bossing mule I'm currently working on. I was bummed that they are nerfing Final Damage soon and now this?

I tried coming back in the new reboot server, played for about 2 weeks. Honestly, the game felt so soulless that I ended up quitting again. It seemed like really the only thing that mattered was doing the events because nothing else was even close to as efficient at getting stronger as the events. This seems like it's just another step in the direction of events being everything.

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

I remember when this was a game, you played events alongside your friends or by yourself, but once the event was over you went back to playing and exploring with friends. This is not a game anymore because a game at its core is to play, learn and socialize with others while playing said game.

@NeighborhoodDada

6 ай бұрын

Yeah man I tried to play again and the other players were not responsive and I just couldn’t figure out what to do No more KPQ and carnival PQ. Just seems about mobbing leveling and then doing your dailies. Kinda reminds me of like a freemium mobile game now instead of an MMO. Literally have more fun playing OSRS

@Aeterny

5 ай бұрын

@@NeighborhoodDada We aren’t missing out when players have to spend hours grinding on a map by themselves to accumulate 1% every day after they’ve burned billions of meso on cubes and starforcing once they finish daily bosses which only take up half an hour or so of their time. Grinding in a party with 1 - 5 others with a 50%+ - 80%+ experience bonus would hopefully bring back the actual element of a game to Maple. Too much time and even actual money goes into enhancing and upgrading equipment, I wonder how many are struggling with a gambling addiction as a result of what Maple’s become?

It is seriously just their greed showing. They were caught manipulating their rates and decide to screw players even more, especially Reboot. Seriously hate these game directors.

@Mckhus

6 ай бұрын

They make cubes for meso on reg and that’s greed? How

@Cl0ud20

6 ай бұрын

@@Mckhusyes, but now you limited on getting meso’s…

@xprofitx9284

6 ай бұрын

@@Mckhus They dont have to report rates if it can be bought with in game currency as far as i know. Also on reg you can buy mesos, this whole thing is just a way to make reboot useless and keep doing what they have been with cube rates

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

​@@Mckhus Because by switching to meso, they take away the pressure that they’re already under in regards to revealing the actual probability roll for desired stats when using cubes, which is obviously manipulated so as to further the predatory gambling business model. This manipulation was exposed in KMS, many players suspect that you have a higher % chance of rolling INT on say, a sword, and a much lower % chance of rolling STR. Now they have no reason to reveal this data.. to our detriment.

@jasonyun1158

6 ай бұрын

@@Mckhuskms allows rwt as long as you buy another currency to then exchange said currency to meso. They limited how much meso you can gain per day from grinding/bossing. So it hard stops you from progressing unless you buy mesos. They’re getting rid of cubes to mask the fact that they were still manipulating their rates after their first scandal. Also even in kms people were playing reboot more and more… meaning less people playing in the actual server buying cubes with cash. So now they gutted reboot so people play more regular server and buy meso now.

Losing 4x meso rate, getting daily meso cap, potential boss crystal removal/nerfs, and way higher cubing cost compared to current? If this hits GMS reboot I'm organizing a good bye party in Henesys then uninstalling

Only 9 days in the new year.....this bodes well

Coppersan, it truely boggles my mind you've managed to stick around maplestory all these years. I don't play anymore, I haven't since not too long after big bang when the sense of community declined, and it's been a spiral downwards ever since. I hope you're doing well!

Welp, I love the game and I started playing at 15 almost 20 years ago and this finally might be my exiting point. If this is the future for GMS, it might be time to put my Maple Nostalgia Goggles away. It’s been a good run, but Nexon has definitely lost me with this one. For those who will still be around to enjoy it, please enjoy mapling and even some for me 😊

It's like they learned literally nothing after the Sol Erda situation. pre 6th job hype brought me back to the game after years of absence. I progressed more during the road to 6th job than i ever had before. Then they introduced the 5% damage requirement for carries. Fine, I guess. But then they did the sol erda nonsense. And now this. I've seen people dump inventories of endgame equips in kms in response to these changes, claiming to "liberate" themselves from the game. I honestly dont blame them. I dont understand what could drive them to make this choice. If it was about money, this certainly wouldnt be the way I'd go about it. And any time I hear a company use 'botting' or 'hackers' as a reason for anything, it usually is a poor excuse for something else. Take this with a grain of salt, since this is from Reddit, but I had read that this was basically a move they are making to avoid revealing cube rates. Some sort of legal loophole? I dont know the details of the situation regarding cubes, but I can see that being a possible theory, at the least. This is seriously gross, and if it comes to gms, I will be quitting, and likely for good. A lot of my guildies are saying the same thing.

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

It was exposed in KMS that the probability for rolling desired stats when cubing an item wasn’t in your favor, hence buying tens of thousands of cubes for each character, I heard this happened with a probability for obtaining puzzle pieces for an event and a player figured it out which led to a pathetic apology and correction from Nexon. Switching it to meso removes the demand to reveal the probability, if you want to roll only STR for a sword, expect it to be like 25% chance of you accomplishing that with few rolls, but you have 65% chance to roll desired INT stats on that very sword..

why does this happen right after I come back having spent 10 years without playing?

So far since I joined this game these are the things they've done or planned. Deleted Jett, switching BM to another class with no Hawk form flying fun or bear mode hammer which made the class fun, reboot exp nerfed, reboot meso cap, reboot final damage nerf, reboot boss crystal nerf, reboot meso amount nerf, kanna destroyed (likely forever), 6th job cap that they tried to add with paid booster and that's just off the top of my head. I can't even begin to imagine how much worse GMS Reboot will be by the end of this year. Endless possibilities.

80m daily meso cap at level 250? I barely make 10m a day at regular server >.

So they screw up massively, and in response to controversy, we get a reboot nerf instead of compensation. Damn it...

Updates should make a game better not worse

Wait, I'm not sure I got one thing right: are they nerfing only the meso rates on reboot or the boss crystals too? It makes a big difference to me since bosses constitute my main income in the server and, unlike on the regular ones, it's actually enough to see progress every week.

"We're sorry for lying to you about our greedy business practices. From now on, we vow to be much more open and transparent about our sheer, unbound avarice. Happy Mapling!"

@hiimemily

6 ай бұрын

Like I legitimately wonder what they expect to happen from this. Do they think people will be _more_ willing to spend money? Even from a "we only care about making money" standpoint this makes less than zero sense.

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

They aren’t factoring in how people legitimately want to spend their money, most people would want to spend as little as possible on an MMO and instead prioritize spending money on physical items that they can actually own.

In reg servers you can get around 200-350m per hour with fz service, that means I can only grind about 1 hour per day to get mesos and I still only get 150m at level 260. That is 1 attempt per day to get your arcane items from 16 - 17 stars.....

@christopherpho9424

6 ай бұрын

Don't worry, they'll increase rates from "30%" to 30%.

@olssoooon96

6 ай бұрын

@@christopherpho9424 hahah

Every decision they make truly shows how disconnected the devs are with THEIR game.

@minilabyrinth

6 ай бұрын

Nah at this point they are hyper connected to players and know how to directly do precisely the worst decisions for players

I love when a company is better at killing their game than making it

@NRobbi42

6 ай бұрын

That seems to be most companies lately.

@Tabarnacification

6 ай бұрын

@@NRobbi42 OverWatch 2 with blizzard

@radezzientertainment501

6 ай бұрын

the creative genius that built this game died over 10 years ago, you can only ride the coattails of greatness so long

@NRobbi42

6 ай бұрын

@@radezzientertainment501 There's been a lot of good content since then tbf, but it's been fewer and further in between.

@radezzientertainment501

6 ай бұрын

yes agreed, less and less over time@@NRobbi42

so if reboot'ss meso rate goes down from 6x-> to 1x, does this apply for bossing too when selling the crystals? or will the price still be same? and this only applies on grinding?

well, if you take into account that they spent the last year completely changing the cubes of other regions, it feels like they knew this was coming and that's why they did it. And if you think about, the core problem was the rates manipulation of black cubes tier up, we kinda never had that here on gms since our rates where always different to korea.

In Korea, reboot is almost the same as regular server, so i dont think there changes are coming here

Prevent framers/bots when there is 0 trading in reboot... right...

"Alright ill play up through the abyss event for if I ever decide to come back in future." Now: "Ah, there isn't going to be a game to come back to."

Well shit. I just came back recently for the Hyperion Reboot Hyper Burning Event, and I've been busy grinding to get to 260 ASAP since I have only a month left. What a time to be a returning player. This suddenly explains the Smegas I keep seeing lol.

nexon forcing every reboot player to do the iron man challenge because of cheaters is among the dumbest things they've done

@christianrainey4459

6 ай бұрын

If you decided to play Reboot, you already decided to do Iron Man.

@pherog

6 ай бұрын

@@christianrainey4459 reboot is easier than iron man because of 6x mesos and buying cubes with mesos

We truly are entering a new age...

So this is what they were testing the Clover event for. I don't think this was rushed at all. Clover battle pass is the future it seems

@AyoItsAntony

6 ай бұрын

What is the clover event

@hpq661

6 ай бұрын

@@AyoItsAntony NX to meso converter. this is why they're making meso farming dogshit and cubes for meso only. reboot will essentially become a regular server but without trading. and the reason is so that they can stay scummy as fuck and bypass laws requiring them to show honest cube rates

Bro had me hypnotized by the cubing rather than hearing him talking😂

As for that meso market conversion 100m wont even get you enough maple points to buy 1 red cube so this change makes that process cheaper. It makes bpots significantly cheaper and more feasible for the average person to use.

"In order to combat bots and illegal selling of 6k-8k legion accounts on the secondary market, we will limit the amount of XP any character can gain per account. Not world, fuck you. 10% cap, I don't care if your level 11 and a green mushroom gives you 10%." - Wonki and Co next week.

Once more I gotta ask, if they want to keep making reboot closer and closer to reg, what is the point of having them be separate?

so the "buy cubes through the maple point market" on reg point I wholey disagree with, especially on Scania. At least in gms, the meso to maple point conversion price is absolute garbage and isn't worth it whatsoever. 1 billion mesos (on Scania) doesn't even get you 10k maple points currently. Only 9.5, literally not even enough to buy a single cube pack. 1 billion mesos on reboot, which is far quicker to obtain, can buy nearly 50 bright/black cubes. Being able to buy cubes with mesos is nothing but a net positive for reg world players, it's the additional restrictions on top of all that which makes it suck.

@aitonono

6 ай бұрын

If the end up jacking up the prices of cubes for reboot, you know what, whatever, that's fine, but a MESO CAP? That's directly fucking with reboots whole system of progression. I don't care if they make it more expensive for reboot, I can handle grinding a bit more, but completely timegating us and punishing us for even thinking about playing the game is so dumb to me.

Perhaps they want KMS reg server players to rally and want cubes for NX again, justifying Nexon to their FTC?

This is so awesome! They are making so many right decisions for the playerbase...that have quit or contemplating quitting :D

Hmm, even though it was a big decision I was happy to move from my ~8300 Legion in Aurora and start fresh in the newest Reboot server. But this changes everything. Not sure what I'm gonna do now

@jaspertje13

6 ай бұрын

Quit

@dracofells5390

6 ай бұрын

Play a good game instead

@fasddfadfgasdgs

6 ай бұрын

Hate to tell you this there is no good games

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

​@@dracofells5390 MMO’s gradually began to follow this predatory gachapon and gambling business model.

Even if this stays in KMS, I'm not sure I have it in me to continue playing for much longer. Then again, I say that all the time and yet here I am, still logging in every single day. But still, when every other month there's a new scandal, and I already don't enjoy the game that much to begin with, it's getting harder and harder to remember why I even play it in the first place.

This won't stop betting and would make the problem worst. What's stopping a bot farm trading mesos to another char and making a new account to keep doing it?

Oh. I literally just installed Maplestory after hearing about the addition of job 6 and was planning to play it this weekend. Guess I can go ahead and uninstall and free up that time again.

Didn't Nexon have another game, kinda like Maplestory, where they made changes to the Global/NA version, until they decided they couldn't be bothered/weren't making enough? And then shortly pulled the plug after less than a year? It's almost as if they don't like NA because the playerbase isn't as willing to swipe. Between this and the fact that this is a response to being caught rigging what is effectively a lootbox system (Cubes for NX), rather than...not rigging? We thought Sewage was bad, this company just brought a whole new meaning to "bad taste".

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

I think that was Dungeon Fighter Online. And you’re probably right, western culture has a different attitude towards gambling.

@Nerxual

6 ай бұрын

I am being coy. It was Maplestory 2! I don't know about DFO, thought it was still a thing. @@Aeterny

the worst nexon decision is always the next decision

Hey coppersan, can you make a video about Maple story world? There seems like there is a old school Maple server on there. It is really popular on twitch atm. I was wondering how this is possible and what are the plans for the global release.

I hope they didnt think i was gonna go to Reg server if this happens in GMS. Im just gonna quit if it does got me messed up.

i honestly like the idea making cubing more like starfore but the ways to make mesos need to be changes drastically then

i havent played maple in ages and i got an email from them to come back. so interesting

Nexon is pulling a 2008 Runescape trade limit. No lesson learned from the past events in the mmo world it seems.

Meso cap on One character or whole account ? I hope it is to make People play more on alts

Nexon is laying the groundwork to introduce 25* items. All mesos will be going into that for upgrading

Does anyone know any of the kms forums to see what the player base reactions are?

For the record, Maple SEA does not have a reboot server.

And now, Mapleland became the real maplestory in South Korea 😂

Whats the point of the new reboot server now lol

Every big game companies are following the same model of "free to play" game but has predatory and greedy tatics to get u to spent money. Sad thing is that its working so they will always be incentivised unless players take a stance.

I don't think the changes are completely bad, I mean, I'm not a reboot player, so I cannot comment on the changes there, but I think is great that if these changes come to GMS, we will now be able to buy cubes (which are similar to black cubes) and Bpot cubes with mesos, this will make legendary items more attainable and easier (or at least more feasible) to progress to mid-end game. I don't farm a lot and when I do it, I normally don't get more than 80m/hr, I do feel sorry for the people that spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars to get % drop rate and meso drop rate, however, they didn't mention anything about Boss Crystals and then, that would be (hopefully) the main income for most maplers, which will yield at least some cubes weekly rather than a handful each month (because I only bought them using Rep points); and yeah, Coppersan mentioned Meso Market, but 10 Black cubes, right now (January 9), would cost 3b mesos ~, rather than 600m with the change, so, yeah, waaaaaaaaaaayyy better and cheaper. So, I'm looking forward to see how this progress, maybe, ultimately Regular and Reboot servers would become one again because now there would not be P2W in terms of Cubing.

@fahmieramli4875

6 ай бұрын

its only bad to the reboot server bro, reg server wil just carry on

This seems a reaction to what will happen to the MMO market with the changes being pushed in China

I am playing in maplesea where a purple cube in the game world costs 150m in the auction house. These changes would reduce rerolling cost in additon to being a black/choice effect. But who knows.. maybe maplesea would increase the cost of rerolling instead.

This is some scary shit... recently came back to MS right before New Age and now I might be leaving again haha

Only seen the thumbnail, Cube for meso i'm swapping over to regular today

I wonder if this is tied to the gacha laws happening in China.

I was about to start playing again last month but got distracted, thank GOD for my ADHD

It's so hard to have fun playing MS atm... I'm a Dutch player so there's no incentive to play either Reboot or GMS... This is gonna be the nail in the coffin for me. I'm gonna play other games

This meso farm limit is great for meso sellers as now the value of mesos is going up. They can just automatically switch characters. While people playing are used to their main and probably don't want to manage multiple farming characters/accounts.

What a strange time for me to fall in love with this game again.. 🎉😅

I started a month ago and i didnt know if i should play reg or reboot. I choosed reboot for higher meso and the worth-grind. If theses changes are coming to GMS Reboot i would regret my choice not to start on regular. Whats the difference between reg and reboot with these changes? NOTHING! Yesterday i was at the point that i would buy a vac pet for 100bucks but now they dont deserve my money until they annouce that these changes arent coming to GMS. I'd like to start on regular server now but i would miss the abyss legion block :(

Now they will sell mesos for Nx :3. Happy 2024

will they apply 2 our ser as welll ? if so i obviously quit this game then and back 2 lol

Wonky and the rest of upper management needs to submit a formal letter of apology to their shareholders and players and then immediately step down from their positions. Cubes not costing nx sounds good though. Revolt against the meso change though 100% revolt revolt revolt. Make them regret even suggesting it and watch their stock price go away.

@jowellnim9459

6 ай бұрын

No, cubes not costing nx is bad too, it just means that they can screw with the rates without any consequence because it dosent cost real money anymore, this is just a huge shitshow

@meitomiyazaki9848

6 ай бұрын

@@jowellnim9459 i didnt think about it you're totally right. As a free to play player on a reg server held back by bad potentials it just sounded good to me out the gate because i wouldnt have to spend real money on it but now that you mention that revolt about that too. I want wonky and the rest of them to step down so bad. We need developers who can actually create improvements to the game not to swindle players out of money by manipulating rolls. Even square enix apologized for how bad ff14 1.0 version was publicly in 2010. Wonky and the rest of his goons should be begging forgiveness on their knees.

In my mind the only justification would be that they remove starforce destruction. Then it's possible these changes might average out, but I honestly doubt they would do that

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

Starforce is already so expensive though, and the 30% chance for success after 16* is ridiculous.

@yimwee2401

6 ай бұрын

@@Aeterny that 30% feels like 5%

@Aeterny

6 ай бұрын

@@yimwee2401 Yup, I find starforce to be a sad mechanic.

@austinmahone6322

6 ай бұрын

Id 110% welcome the no boom change. I dont even farm for meso so idrc about the cap since i get all my meso from my boss mules that makes 15.5b a week. Even if they nerf the crystal like reg id still be okay with it.

@minilabyrinth

6 ай бұрын

@@Aeterny Yeehaw grind for 3 hours to afford one 22* hit

They will announce changes AFTER VacPet sale, also RTM it's gonna be up, farmers can make multi accounts and farm meso that way and sell it to you outside meso market and WHO inject money in meso market beside players?.... Nexon. Like blizzard and the auction house were no one knows from where the gold came.

I'd been debating returning. I think that debate has been thoroughly put to rest.

I come back from time to time just because of nostalgia. But I don’t plan nor have the time to hit a ‘cap’ on an in game highly obtainable currency every day to hope to be able to do the things I want. Unfortunately I don’t think I’ll be coming back for anything major for quite awhile, if ever. I always have given MapleStory props for staying alive & in some ways staying fun for an MMO, but these past couple of years each decision they make I’m just like… what? what are y’all doing? 😒😭

how about gold seller and cube seller service for alt chart ??

This is a pretty drastic change, I wonder if it'll finally spur people to quit instead of licking up any compensation and continue playing and spending.

dont forget they're killing reboot 6x meso rates too

Absolutely insane to do a sweeping change aimed at fixing reg server problems but also for whatever reason just apply it to reboot as well

the twins seem to think theres nothing to worry about and nothing is concrete

who knows maybe now that mesos are becoming more harder to come by,certain items will also drop in value balancing the market a bit,i dont know, i play maplestory from time to time for a week never get beyond lvl 150 before i get bored because im always alone,never been into grinding just casual and enjoying

Wow I was a long time mapler and about to come back but I don’t think I ever will now.

@Daniel-.22

5 ай бұрын

Keeping the cubes at the current pay to win style will change your mind? XD

Purchasing cubes in the Regular Server using mesos is, to be honest, not a wise decision. When comparing the prices of a single cube in the Reboot and Regular servers, there is a significant disparity. In the Regular Server, most players find it impractical to buy cubes through the mesos market, as the cost is considerably higher compared to Reboot.

1:36 That's exactly what it's starting to feel like. Reboot is just reg server with no trading. Which means it's simply worse all around because cosmetics are overpriced and the rng is terrible. Can't trade strong gear between alts, can't buy gear for main or alts, can't buy cosmetics that you want from market, etc. Reboot is just becoming all around worse than reg at this rate. So I have to gear up each and every one of my characters from the ground up, but I have no system helping me do so? When I could just play reg and have my cake and eat it too? It's just more annoying for the sake of being annoying. The increase to progression speed was the whole point of reboot. Can't trade, so here's the incentive to make up for it if you spend the time. They nerfed the exp incentive and the final damage incentive. Now they're working on removing the only incentives remaining. This seems really silly to adopt for Reboot GMS, but are they going to be able to maintain a separate system for cubing and meso rates considering the dev team resources to upkeep these systems would be little to nothing since it's not KMS? I feel like we're going to get it to maintain some form of parity.

@user-to1su2iy4d

5 ай бұрын

Should've been that way day one. The whole idea when Reboot launched was everyone having to build themselves up instead of relying on the market, the extra rates were just a bonus to alleviate needing much higher range to kill the same mobs. Runescape's Ironman mode that is still hugely successful and doesn't baby its players like Reboot does, much the opposite

After this patch, many kms reboot users went to gms

It's almost funny how their kneejerk reaction was to nerf Reboot... almost...

Prob cap daily mesos, to force people to just buy the mesos and then cube . No one mentioning the boss drop rate.. how am I finding a black bean mark every run now!? After years

Whenever I think I should try the game again, this company finds a way to make me turn back lol.

expected nothing less from NEXON 😂

I don’t play on kms so I have no idea what it’s like over there or how this could be beneficial to kms. But as a gms player… I’m just baffled. Like what the heck is that change? The killing the meso rates on reboot means there’s no reason to play the server, but even more baffling is the meso cap: what the heck? Maplestory is classically the ultimate grind fest and they want to… kill grinding? Just seems weird to me, I feel like maplestory’s content is so geared towards grinding instead of doing some daily login stuff and then logging out that the change just doesn’t make sense for the game. It just makes progression sluggishly slow, not that it was fast to begin with.

if thy're going to cap meso then they need to up the drop rate on everything and get rid of the player having an HP and MP bar

This obviously seem like a knee-jerk movement by nexon directors in attempt to quickly cover up their mistakes from regulators. No groundworks and thoughts been processed to understand what players really need to regain trust and confidence in the gamw

I finally stop being a seasonal player and this happens lmao gg

I like this update and changes :)