Manstein's Counteroffensive in Kharkov | The Genius That Saved the Wehrmacht from Annihilation
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How does the German Army manage to recompose itself after the Stalingrad disaster? What offensives did the Red Army launch on the entire southern and central German wing? How far back did the Soviets push the German armies? How does Manstein manage to turn the situation around? What impact did the SS Panzer Corps have? What was the overall balance of the operation when it ended at the end of March 1943?
Next in this program we are going to analyze this entire operation from the end of November 1942, until March 1943.
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00:00 Put in Context
00:45 The Dramatic Situation Facing Manstein
01:44 Manstein's first measurements
02:43 Eastern Front situation at the beginning of 1943
03:59 The Red Army continues to advance without brakes
05:08 The meeting on economics at Hitler's Headquarters
05:30 Soviets press on and Germans withdraw
06:20 Waffen SS Panzer Corps goes into action
08:21 Situation of the Front on February 20, 1943
08:51 The Soviets open a big Gap
10:03 Manstein starts his Counteroffensive
10:12 Go for Kharkov and Belgorod!
12:45 Impact and Consequences of this Operation
14:15 Final considerations
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A retreat under enemy pressure, a regroup and successful counterattack all while suffering a logistical nightmare; is astounding. In fact, it is nearly epochal!
@jockwoodsman
Жыл бұрын
Well said. Not enough mentioned about Manstein. He did save the day and many, many German troops. If Hitler left the strategy of the war to his Generals the end result would have been much different. Had he been given free rein to act, he could have saved the 6th army at Stalingrad. How humbling for a General to take orders from a corporal with no formal military training.
@Kumpelblase397
Жыл бұрын
@@jockwoodsman You know that Hitler was against Kursk? And his Order to stay in front of Moscow in 1941 saved the Army... An retreat would've been catastrophic. He was no mastermind, but in this regard not as Bad as pictured...
@ILikeMyPrivacytbt
Жыл бұрын
It's also very familiar. I could have sworn I heard something similar in the news recently. I guess it's true, those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.
@Sizt
Жыл бұрын
@@jockwoodsman how could he save 6th army?
@tomservo5347
Жыл бұрын
@@Kumpelblase397 Manstein wrote that Hitler did not like making risky decisions. He did say that Hitler had a keen eye for tactical openings but lacked the years of professional training that allows a commander to weigh risks and undertake weighty decisions. Manstein claims that Goering's promise to airdrop supply 6th Army is what made them and Hitler decide to not break out. The only way possible was to coordinate 6th Army breaking out in conjunction with 4th Panzer Army to relieve both sides' fronts, open up a corridor, and using 6th Army to roll up the enemy flanks. The 'no retreat' order didn't save anything during the winter of '41. It was pure luck that kept the Germans from a catastrophe. Von Rundstedt had ordered a strategic withdrawal and building up a fortified line before winter set in but Hitler countermanded this and Rundstedt resigned in a huff.
As the war in the East went on Manstein knew static defense was useless and only constant movement was the way to grasp the chance when it came to launch a counter attack. This was a very daunting task when you are outnumbered 7 to 1 and what he achieved in Kharkov was probably the greatest victory against all odds in WW11.
@rainbowseeker5930
Жыл бұрын
So true...!
@PolishBehemoth
11 ай бұрын
it wasnt 7-1. Even in the most populated russian attack areas when compared to soviet documents and german general statements the absolute worst spost were 3 or 3.5-1. Only youtube nerds and nazi sympathizers cry for 7/1 or 8/1 or 10/1.
@gnosticbrian3980
10 ай бұрын
"This [constant movement] was a very daunting task when you are outnumbered 7 to 1..." - even more daunting when movement relies on horse drawn kit because of a cripping shortage of fuel.
@dontknowaboutthis7425
9 ай бұрын
the wehrmacht were never outnumbered 7 to 1 on the whole front. the generals lied their asses off in their memoires to make themselves look good. the only reasons they werent called out for it was the cold war between the usa and the soviets. why waste a chance for propaganda. the german eastern inteligence services estimated that the soviet union could mobilise around 11 mio soldiers in a conflict, soviet archives show that they mobilised 9.8 mio during the whole second world war. the germans had 6,8 mio men fighting on the eastern front. still outnumbered 1:1,5 during the whole conflict but much closer. some german generals claimed they were facing over 9 mio soviet soldiers just at the end of the war. did the soviets miscount how many man, rifles, tanks etc they produced during the war or did the wehrmacht generals lie? people keep forgetting that the cold war just ended 34 years ago. up until then you had 2 superpowers who used a lot of propaganda to make themselves look better and their respective enemy worse. we only got widespread acces to the soviet archives in the middle of the 1990s, before that all information released went through the propaganda ministeries to make the soviets look stronger
@apollo2739
4 ай бұрын
@@dontknowaboutthis7425 nice bs story , read the memos of tank commanders. Many write in their memos that russians sends vave after vave of men and tanks, tiger tank commanders were even having a match between them who will get more score of russian tanks lol.
I remember reading a diary of a Hungarian battery captain about the retreat. He always described that the retreat was orderly and the artillery always kept cover and stalled the pursuit. They always had units slowing down the soviets and mined the roads once everyone passed. One interresting thing he wrote is that they were never scared of the counter battery despite the Soviets having several times more artillery pieces since their aim was horrible and focused more on firing in huge numbers.
@guidonencini2487
Жыл бұрын
l esercito tedesco non aveva rivali e l Aviazione e gli u boat erano il top. sei anni di guerra contro mezzo mondo hanno venduto cara la pelle fino alla fine
@Mfields4517
Жыл бұрын
Defensive artillery fire is always going to be better. Important targets can be pre sighted
@peace-now
Жыл бұрын
I was in the New Zealand Army. I don't understand the concept of aiming. We always used an Obervation Post (OPs) and they used a grid reference of the target to initiate a fire mission. After the fall of the first round, adjustment fire was needed - drop 200 right 100, then maybe right 50, etc. After that 3 rounds fire for effect (all guns would each fire three rounds). Calculations would be done at the Command Post (CP), located near the guns.
@user-bf1yq6oj8z
Жыл бұрын
And there were no Hungarian casualties of course! Lol
@daledunham9258
10 ай бұрын
A very bizarre account that’s so optimistic. They were horribly quit running for their lives. The Russians didn’t treat them any much nicer than the Germans and had nothing but revenge on their mind after everything they suffered at this point
Mansteins attempted relief of the 6th army surrounded at staling rad was very close to succeeding. He pushed from the south, and at one point was only 30 kilometres away. Some Russian units, broke off, and faced south to stop Manstein. Mansteins had several times contacted paulus, Urging him to concentrate his remaining armour and artillery directly opposite Mansteins thrust, in this way the Russians would be squeezed between two German armies, On breaking the seige, 10,000 tons of supplies would be pushed through the corridor into stalingrad. Paulus, refused, as he had refused the day before, and the day before that, he cited hitlers order to stand fast. No matter how Manstein tried to persuade him otherwise, paulus refused, saying he had little ammunition, few serviceable armoured vehicles, little fuel, and he was confident that hitlers assurances of air dropped supplies would be kept. Some 6th army soldiers heard Mansteins artillery in the distance, Before gradually the silence returned as Manstein, now being squeezed from both sides in an extended corridor, decided to abandon his plan. Paulus condemned 6th army to its fate by his blind obedience and misplaced faith in Hitler. Ironically, paulus's stand, enabled Mansteins army to extract itself from very nearly being cut off completely.
@Nightdare
4 күн бұрын
Bullshit, Paulus never got the order to break out, not from Hitler, not from Manstein, Manstein only gave the order to prepare for a breakout, 6th army only had 30km of fuel for a breakout, and severely weakened, you try to go 5 miles malnourished in a Russian winter for 5 miles under fire Manstein was on the defensive 100km (yes One Hundered kilometers!) from Stalingrad (Before Operation little saturn hit), Paulus could not even make 1/3rd of that distance with the supplies he had, not to mention having to face the forces between him and Manstein without heavy equipment Just because Manstein wrote it, doesn't make it true, on the contrary, Manstein's books are nothing more than self-aggrandizing fairytales
The mobile "elastic defense " absolutely brilliant
@blabberer8950
2 күн бұрын
Another Rothchild actor who played his role in WW2. Same guy who played President Truman. People in facial prosthetics have been ruling us for years playing people against each other for profit and power.
After reading Manstein's memoirs he stated mobile warfare was what they excelled at and Hitler's insistence on not giving up any ground reduced them largely to static warfare with only one end result. He states the Eastern Front could have been handled with fluid, mobile operations due to their better command structure. The entire Kharkov operation showcased this and also what was possible with a professional soldier in charge. Many of the field grade officers secretly wished Manstein had been made either overall Eastern Front commander or even head of Supreme Command but Hitler never would have allowed this and didn't.
@Blei1986
Жыл бұрын
yes indeed. BUT, the problem is, you need numbers (manpower) to get a working encirclement, OR *YOU* are the one getting encircled instead. excellent example are the soviet units pushing south here and thinking of cutting the enemy (germans) off of supply - while the exact opposite happend
@tomservo5347
Жыл бұрын
@@Blei1986 Manstein knew this perfectly well-and wanted to perform orderly withdrawals in order to build up the strength needed for encirclements when the time was right. With mobile operations dedicated solely to destroying Soviet forces and not getting muddled up with economic goals Manstein felt inflicting enough losses while keeping their own to a minimum would have at least made negotiations more feasible.
@Blei1986
Жыл бұрын
@@tomservo5347 yes, oc the strongest ace the germans HAD was the mobile warfare - too bad, when oil and tanks become rare.
@tomservo5347
Жыл бұрын
@@Blei1986 And preserving them and making the most use of them was what Manstein wanted to do. He wrote that the static warfare that came about from Hitler's unwillingness to give up any ground allowed the Red Army to simply mass wherever they wanted and create breakthroughs from already stretched and thinly manned German lines. I'm just pointing out the 3rd battle of Kharkov and Chir river battles where the Germans faced 1 to 10 inferiority yet destroyed an entire Soviet army showcased what *could* have been done across the entire Eastern Front.
@Blei1986
Жыл бұрын
@@tomservo5347 true, the static defense was hopeless against a superior enemy when it comes to numbers (manpower, tanks, artillery)
The best part of this video is in providing context as it relates to other fronts such as movement from western front to eastern, North Africa, and the pull of energy resources on German objectives planning. All too often, this context is not given.
Manstein was the best commander Hitler had on the Eastern Front in all honesty. The man was a tactical genius who almost seemed to understand Soviet doctrine better than they undersood it themselves. Guderian was good, but he was all about offense and pushing, always pushing, not very good at strategic defense. Manstein had a good understanding of both and was able to use an elastic defense followed by a fast and hard counterattack once the Soviets had overextended themselves. The only other field marshal who seemed to grasp this concept was Walter Model. Rommel came close to mastering it in North Africa, but he was too aggressive, always wanting to push forward, similar to Guderian. In a war of attrition, as the Germans faced on the Eastern Front, a good defense can win a war.
@rationalbasis2172
11 ай бұрын
He was much better at strategic defense than most people believe. He was named the Chief of Staff of the OKH on July 1, 1944, making him responsible for the Eastern Front. He took command 9 days after the Bagration Offensive had begun, when some 20 German divisions were already surrounded and Army Group Center had been destroyed as a functional unit. At the same time, no reinforcements could be sent because of Overlord. Guderian eventually was able to stabilize the main front despite these conditions and lack of reinforcement. Deprived of replacements, the Eastern Front no longer had the troops to maintain a stable front everywhere - and were forced to give up ground in the Balkans. But on the main front, in Poland and the Baltics, Guderian prevented the collapse of the front. By December even Hitler acknowledged that the defense line in Poland and Baltic had never been stronger than it was now, and thanks to him. Unfortunately, Hitler also made (ordered) a critical change in the tactical deployments in Poland. He moved the 2nd line from 12 miles behind the main front to just a few. Consequently, when Russia launched the Vistula offensive, the defense deployments were now in range of massive Russian artillery. Multiple breakthroughs ensued and the front collapsed, with the Russians reaching the Oder within a couple of weeks. This collapse resulted in a massive argument between Hitler and Guderian, in which Guderian pointed out that the reason for the collapse was Hitler's stupid order to revise Guderian's tactical deployments which put their fallback line in range of Russian artillery. Almost all witnesses say that this argument was one of the worst they had ever seen - Hitler was wrong and he knew it. Some thought they were about to come to blows. In any case, Guderian was ordered to take a health leave, and that was that.
@redtobertshateshandles
11 ай бұрын
You don't win by defence. You need supplies to go on the attack. Germany didn't have any.
@jebbroham1776
11 ай бұрын
@@redtobertshateshandles Manstein’s defense tactics weren’t defensive only. It involves giving ground, allowing the Soviets to exhaust their supply lines and then counterattack to retake the lost ground. It worked perfectly in the Kharkov counteroffensive of February-March 1943 and was the only real way to keep the Red Army offset.
Hitler was one of those jerk bosses who are never satisfied or grateful. "We advanced 50 km." "Why not 100km??"
Manstein was a brilliant tactical genius. He had Hermann Balck serving under him....In May 1942, Balck went to the Eastern Front in command of the 11th Panzer Division in Ukraine and southern Russia. Following the encirclement of the 6th Army at Stalingrad in the Soviet Operation Uranus, the German southern front faced a generalized collapse. Balck's Division took part in the efforts to stop the Soviet advance. In battles along the Chir River his division destroyed an entire Soviet Tank Corps and much of the Soviet 5th Tank Army. For this and other achievements Balck was made one of only twenty-seven officers in the entire war who received the Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds. Balck was then given command of the Heer's elite unit, Großdeutschland Division which he led at Zhitomir in 1943. After a brief posting to Italy in which he commanded the XIV Panzer Corps, he returned to command the XLVIII Panzer Corps on the Eastern Front in December 1943, as well as the operations against the Soviet winter/spring offensive in western Ukraine in 1944. In July 1944 Balck commanded the Corps during the initial phase of the Soviet Lvov-Sandomierz Offensive. He was closely involved in the failed relief attempt of the encircled XIII Army Corps in the Brody pocket, where it was destroyed. In August 1944 he assumed command of the 4th Panzer Army.
@Nnnuvolari
Жыл бұрын
Glad you recognize the outstanding merit of Hermann Balck. You certainly know about the Eastern front. I have studied in detail the defensive battles of the Chir River (a series of very agresive counterattacks constantly moving from one end of the front to the other to reppel the different Soviet brackethrougs) Given the inferiority of men and materiel It is really astonishing what Balck and the 11th Panzer Div achived there. To some historians he is the one who prevented the collapse of the whole Southern front at the time. In my opinion one of the best if not the best Divisional General of the Heer and together with Hans Valentin Hube one of my two favorites.
@jeroenvandenberg5750
Жыл бұрын
Hi there Thanx for this info. As WWII history buff I need to read up on my Hermann Balck.
@alexfromboston8303
Жыл бұрын
Hermann Balck is the best field commander many have never heard of. I highly recommend his book Order in Chaos. The man was a genius. After the war, unlike most German field commanders, he refused to cooperate with the US Army's program of enemy general interviews to help write the official history on the eastern front. He pretty much lived in obscurity after the war until he wrote his book.
@Leon-bc8hm
4 ай бұрын
@@alexfromboston8303 A Genius while the Red Army destroyed every Army Group in the end. And it wasn't because of General winter (everyone's foe).
Thank you so much for another very informative video. I previously knew only the broad facts about the eastern front but you are filling in that gap in my knowledge very well. Thank you again!
@MD21037
Жыл бұрын
If you are interested in learning more about the Eastern Front, may I suggest reading books by David Glantz. He has many books and I've read many. All of them are more educational than anything else ever written on the Eastern Front. His books are available on Amazon.
Excellent exposition of a very vast military scenario in Eastern Front. Thank you for this painstaking work. Maj Gen IA
I never thought of the breathing room for both sides on the Eastern Front after the counteroffensives for Kharkov and Belgorod and the build up for Operation Citadel against the salient at Kursk. You always think of post Stalingrad as a continual weakening of the Reich.
@marcelbork92
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this notion is totally wrong. By the way, Clausewitz says: A war is over only WHEN it is over, NOT before.
@ThatPianoNoob
4 ай бұрын
Interesting.. I was always confused about how the Wehrmacht did so well against the soviets. Theyve inflicted disproportionate losses to the soviets at every phase of the war, which especially in the later stages is very surprising to me.
Amazing video. Keep up the good work! Fascinating to watch
I first read about Stalingrad back in Junior High School in the 1950's. It seems to me now, that Hitler was afraid and his fear lead him to refuse to accept reality and to order troops not to retreat. Hitler made his decisions not out of tactical thinking but because fear pushed him to reject the reality of the situation. This happened time and time again until the Soviets were on the gates of Berlin.
@rationalbasis2172
11 ай бұрын
It's the stacking of false causation, starting with Hitler's virulent racism. Once you go down the path of irrationality, you end up in an unreality of your own making. Actual reality eventually wins.
@blacklion8208
11 ай бұрын
No, his generals gave him false information concerning the condition of the German army. He was a dangerous dictator and knew nothing about the lend lease from the US to Stalin.
Thanks for the effort you put to deliver this wonderful content
Manstein’s most decisive victory was the Battle of France in 1940 where the German Wehrmacht adopted his plan to defeat the British and French.
@rasthurlo6812
Жыл бұрын
From a Strategic genius point of view the1940 French campaign is clearly his greatest achievement. Has to be on the shortlist of best ever historical campaign considering the swiftness and absolute nature of the victory, all from a starting point of relative material weakness. However, this Kharkov counter-offensive is generally seen as testament to his operational genius. The narrative of successful field command under overwhelming odds has its appeal
@paullakowski2509
Жыл бұрын
@@rasthurlo6812 YES FRANCE 1940 had been standard study for years in Wehrmacht b4 WW-II began. Manstein’s Sichelschnitt (Sickle Cut) was just Manstein tweaking the basic case blue study. BUT "THE BACK HANDED BLOW" WAS PURE PURE MANSTEIN SPEED AND CLARITY OF VISION. 3RD KHARKOW BATTLE WORKED BECAUSE ITS SPEED AND DECISIVE STRIKE. BUT KURSK WAS A DISASTER BECAUSE HITLER DELAYED MONTH ALLOWING RUSSIA TO MASSIVELY REINFORCES THE BULGE, WHILE ENIGMA INTERCEPTS CONFIRMED STAINS BELIEF IN MISSION AHEAD . EMBATTLE BEST WEHRMACHT CORPS , WHILE FLANKED THIS BULGE UNOPPOSED WITH FRESH TROOPS .
@ericcaldwell2074
Жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯. I believe kursk would have been equally so if not for the corporal's medaling in affairs beyond his grasp.
@sirxavior1583
Жыл бұрын
It was Guderian that contributed the most by purposing the use of armored forces in concentration with encirclement, Manstein emitted Guderian's contribution.
@joemammon6149
Жыл бұрын
if the battle of France didn't end in a German victory, then the Soviets might have attacked the Germans first and wouldn't have suffered astronomical losses from the German invasion, and reached Berlin sooner than 1945.
Excellent video my guy, very detailed video
Fantastic video. Great job thank you
Excellent summary of the Eastern Front immediately following the Russian victory at Stalingrad. Great job of explaining and showing the Russians momentum and Manstein’s strategy to counter their over confidence. I got a lot out of this video. Thanks
Manstein was probably the best general of the 3rd Reich..
@MrProsat
Жыл бұрын
I concur...!
@foxer774
Жыл бұрын
To me he was the greatest officer In the German. Army ......Hitler should have allowed him to continue in his position . Along with other officers ,that were in command..manstein , I believe would have sued for peace in 43.....God bless Herr von manstein and the ,German soilder...
@Krutchly
Жыл бұрын
I would venture probably the best general of WW2, axis or allies.
@chadrowe8452
Жыл бұрын
What about rundstedt
@Krutchly
Жыл бұрын
@@chadrowe8452 Also a brilliant general. But if I had to choose between the two I would still name Von Manstein.
gotta get rid of the bot narration. it ruins what could be a great video. if you can't narrate it, find someone to do it.
@edoedo8686
2 ай бұрын
Agree. Who do they use this type of narration?
@migram4190
28 күн бұрын
Hey maybe he is not proficient in English. Give the man a break he presents very well tho.
@Rogbet1
23 күн бұрын
@@migram4190 there are several we2 history channels that aren’t proficient in English yet in pull in hundreds of thousands of views so this is just laziness from the creator
@thomas19994
23 күн бұрын
@@migram4190 constructive criticism should be appreciated by content creators, AI is a thing now he could just replace the bot with a AI voice
@johnsutfin1160
17 күн бұрын
The bot said “Grobdeutschland” and I almost spit out my water lol
Thanks for today and a fantastic video thanks for what you do
Very fine work, thank you.
You got yourself new subscriber. Very well done , thank you for posting 👍
Well done! Congratulations 👍
Thank you for your video.
*Excellent* presentation. Thank you!
@waracademy128
Жыл бұрын
Ty
A great presentation, superb channel!
The commentator has a very pleasent voice i enjoy listening to, BRAVO my compliments!! Great Job!!
Very informative, good job.
I must say you said a lot in 15 minutes Well done!
Such great insite. You are a regular on my watching on you tube.
Thanks for putting in chapters/timestamps
I loved the video. Great job
Thank you very much for the video.
@waracademy128
Жыл бұрын
Ty
thank you, nice pics.
fantastic video! Manstein managed to restore the front in March 1943. however, the very turning point was in August 1942. After the conquest of Maikop, Germans could really manage to defeat the Russians. The German mistake was a strategic one: the transfer of Manstein's Army to Leningrad, the transfer of Panzer Divisions to France and Belgium. Without these transfer operations that depleted the Don Front, Uranus would have failed and it could be interesting to speculate on the possible outcome of a German victory at Stalingrad and a possible conquest of Grozny too. With the Oil lost in the Caucasus and the Volga corridor blocked, Stalin could have been tempted to sign a peace
@colinhunt4057
Жыл бұрын
Quite right. The war was lost in 1942. This was the first oil war. Germany had a permanent deficit in oil which it could not overcome except by seizing the oilfields of the Caucasus. It's failure to do so doomed the Third Reich to defeat regardless of what else happened anywhere else. By 1943, much of the Luftwaffe was permanently grounded from a shortage of aviation fuel. There were months in which the submarine activity of the Kriegsmarine was suspended because of a shortage of diesel fuel. Germany was starving to death because of a complete shortage of fuel for farm vehicles, trucks and tractors. Crops all over German occupied Europe were rotting in the fields because of an absolute fuel shortage. 1942 was a disaster because in 1941 Halder had disobeyed Hitler by sending the army against Moscow when Hitler knew that the Reich needed the oil of the Caucasus and the grain of Ukraine to survive. Fall Blau was the last chance, and the generals blew it. Manstein compounded the problem by failing to relieve Paulus at Stalingrad. After that, lights out.
@DilophoMS
11 ай бұрын
@@colinhunt4057The war was lost at the end of 1941 when the USA entered the war and when the Russian winter prevented the capture of Moscow. A single small country can't win against two large countries (+ all their allies) with nearly unlimited manpower and strong industry.
@skelejp9982
11 ай бұрын
Every conquered mile, like quadrippled, German problems. In many ways, like; Recon, Communication, Security, Logistics etc. The bigger the enemies' territory, the more vital information becomes. And more territory meant, the more influence of partisan attacks, on logistics would be felt And the Soviets/Partisans had way better Intelligence!
@Burevestnik45
2 ай бұрын
In your dreams.. Germany would never win
Congrats to the author of this video. It is terrifying to imagine how much blood has been poured on those fields in Ukraine and Russia throughout history. And it is tragic to hear many of those cities names today again in the news about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The name of Charkiv resp. Charkov is probably the most striking example.
@mutteringmale
Жыл бұрын
No natural barriers, rich lands...like Poland with the same results in history. The gene pools of Uks and Poles would read like an encyclopedia of most of the peoples of the northern latitude from millenia!
@michaelmicha6335
Жыл бұрын
Kharkiv and kharkov are not the Same kharkov is a polish city
@christianhotz437
Жыл бұрын
Geographically it is the same place we speak about. Today named Kharkiv, earlier also Kharkov as well as in German Charkow (similar to the russian word). Easy to verify via wikepedia e.g.
@s.k634
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmicha6335 soon to be Russian
@evancoker194
Жыл бұрын
Christian Hotz .. thinking much the same as you. So much blood, yes. How sad. And these same cities today. Yet such a very different war.
great video thanks
Fantastic!!!!
Great video thanks 👌🏻🇬🇧
@waracademy128
Жыл бұрын
Ty
Thanks, that was very good :)
Great video and analysis !! Eager for videos on Kursk and bagration
What an absolute genius Manstein was
This idea of war academy for dummies has to be welcomed.Good job. I subscribe. A good niche. Now, the 2d ww strategies are mostly outdated as surprise is very difficult to reach. Back to raw firepower and trenches.
This is truly one of your best videos mate
Loving the details and real life accounts
Sorta amazing how much credit general officers get when their commanders in the field really did all the bloody work.
Nice presentation.
Given we all know what the outcome was, it can't be argued that he saved the army from annihilation, merely delayed it.
Good timing - regarding successful Ukrainian counteroffensive against Russia!
@urdnotwrex6969
Жыл бұрын
7000 dead ukranians, 900 tanks, bmps, other vehicles destroyed for what? To get into the boiler and water washing away their only way to retreat. Not so much success and you should check Also new York Times citing many nato generals saying that this is russian style of fighting when they are in minority..
@IsaacTui
10 ай бұрын
Which counter offensive??? They are being decimated 😂
What a brilliant commanders they have.
This maneuver is taught in military academies around the world.
Think of Ws as Vs...it'll help ur pronunciation.(Advice for narrator) Great video, enjoying ur work. Thx for uploading.
Very clear video, thank you. Fun fact : the captions, translated in French, go from "Manstein" to "man's time" to « temps de l'homme » ;-)
@waracademy128
7 ай бұрын
Ty
Excellent!!
@waracademy128
Жыл бұрын
Ty
It is a shame what happened during WW2.
One of the best explanation of the background situation before the Kharkov offensive. I see some Spanish maps here. Is this a Spanish origine video?
excellent channel.
@waracademy128
Жыл бұрын
Ty
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job. Making it easier for viewers to understand what the orator is describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Had hitler let the generals run the war. Perhaps more favorable results would have been in the German armies favor.
Well done, War Academy. This gives a good understanding of what led to Kursk and thereafter. Good job.
GREAT, in depth vid on KIII W.A! I HIGHLY recommend author : "Jean Restayn's-3rd Battle Of Kharkov" book. Im pretty familiar with the topic, but that book has SO many photos Ive yet to ever view on the subject taken from the WW2 Bundesarchives. again, great narration....;)
Nice delivery. No added drama, music etc.
One comment. By the way, awesome video. After the counteroffensive, Manstein wanted to continue to take Kusk but was stalled by Hitler. Hitler wanted to reinforce, Manstein wanted an immediate attack to keep the soviets from making defenses once Kursk is uphill. Manstein was a military Genious.
Erich Von Manstein was a very intelligent man. RIP Heroes
@johnrodriguez853
Жыл бұрын
Heroes?
@waynelittle646
Жыл бұрын
@@johnrodriguez853 yes
@johnrodriguez853
Жыл бұрын
@@waynelittle646 who?
@waynelittle646
Жыл бұрын
@@johnrodriguez853 the German army
@classicgalactica5879
Жыл бұрын
@@waynelittle646 The Wermacht was complicit in the Holocaust and committed horryfying atrocities in the Soviet Union and other occupied countries. They were anything but heroes.
Great video with a lot of useful information but weren't you light on the Kharkov battle?
The consequence's for any troops operating in sub zero temperatures can never be underestimated, it is unforgiving, no matter who you are!
Hitler was in great danger in february 1943. About 22 soviet tanks reached a farm. Adjacent to the farm was the airfield where Hitler's airplane was situated. So, although the main soviet body was 60 kilometers from Hitler, but a small soviet unit did manage to reach few hundred meters from him.
@mirkojorgovic
Жыл бұрын
It was great disaster , that they missed chance to kill Hitler; world will be better if Hitler was deactivated in 1941, 1943 or 1944
@LeeLee-kk1qu
Жыл бұрын
@@mirkojorgovic Not sure the Germans would have stopped fighting though. He would have been turned into a Martyr and made the Germans fight even more. Herman Goering would of became leader and probably would have continued the fight.
@mirkojorgovic
Жыл бұрын
@@LeeLee-kk1qu Yes but Goering was against first idea of plan Barbarossa . Only Hitler had energy and power to prevailed. Goering continued to fight but also was more natural able to made proposals to piece with USSR. Stalin was in position to talk about end of war in 1943.
@gamerdrache6076
11 ай бұрын
@@LeeLee-kk1qu himmler or göebbels which is even worse than hitlker
@LeeLee-kk1qu
11 ай бұрын
@@mirkojorgovic it's true Goering seems to have been more reasonable negotiating a peace deal but the comment said 1943-1944. Goering even said himself at the Nuremberg trial that he didnt believe Germanys position became unattainable until January 1945 and peace negotiations would be unsatisfactory especially the allies wanted unconditional surrender.
Very good
Thanks
Manstein's Counteroffensive in Kharkov | The Genius That Saved the Wehrmacht from Annihilation IN 1942.
@user-ih1mo8vv7o
10 күн бұрын
Manstein got SS troops . Model never did but saved the eastern front with gross duestchland
Good information
Another great video. It is easy to find fault with plans that didn’t work but the people involved had many issues to contend with. It is not easy to plan anything since you have no control over the weather. Logistics is a big problem for both sides. Any day the Russians were halted was a victory for Germany. Any day they advanced was a victory for Russia.
@alexeyvlasenko6622
Жыл бұрын
I would note that just a bit earlier in the war, the exact opposite was the case: any day the Germans were halted was a victory for Russia, and every day they advanced was a victory for Germany. The very fact that this situation was now reversed meant that Germany had already lost the war, it was just that the USSR and the Western Allies still needed a little bit more time to finish mopping up. Sure, Germany would still achieve occasional tactical victories, like at Kharkov or Ardennes, but they would never again recover any offensive momentum at the operational, let alone the strategic, level.
@akhil999in
Жыл бұрын
@@alexeyvlasenko6622 once the US was fighting, there was no way the Axis could have won. the main mistake of AH was to assume that the US would just watch UK and others go down and not do anything about it. despite his great popularity in germany, AH had very poor knowledge of psychology.
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Do you have any plans on getting that English translator?
Had that cognac bomb worked , I suspect that von Manstein and Rommel would have handled the situation with different results .
Had one for over twenty years 👍
great video, hope you make a video on the Mussolini and the Russian front, thanks!!!
@waracademy128
Жыл бұрын
Ty
Amazing to see the same names appearing in the news today 80 years later.
i looked for Counteroffensive in Kharkov i didn't expect this video, but it's ok
great presentations ... keep the good work.
@waracademy128
Жыл бұрын
Ty man
He was a great general and one of the best among his colleagues in WW2. Thx to his brilliant strategy and counteroffensive, Wehrmacht utterly destroyed three soviet armies during the Third Battle of Kharkov. Even though some propaganda tellers try to belittle his achievements, everyone who reads history impartially knows that Manstein is a remarkable general.
This was Intense. Couldnt believe that the whole Army group South was almost wrecked In early 1943.
@lucasdamotta2931
Жыл бұрын
They were overly stretched tin in the impossible mission of taking the Caucasus while advancing to Stalingrad at once. They never had the numbers for that and amazes me how no one in the command ever expressed the total madness this plan was.
@stayhungry1503
Жыл бұрын
@@lucasdamotta2931 so many times throughout history they made a huge mistake by splitting forces in two. sometimes it worked but usually it ended in disaster. better to concentrate the forces.
Thumbs up. Great account of an imp phase.
The patient was going to die as soon as Barbarossa began , it was just a matter of time.
@jebbroham1776
Жыл бұрын
Germany could have crushed the Soviet Union, easily. The only problem was that it was controlled by an Austrian corporal who had a trench-minded understanding of warfare. He was thinking only on ground terms, he wasn't able to visualize a war from the 5,000 foot perspective where every arm of the military had to work in perfect coordination with one another. His generals did have this perspective, but he ignored their sound advice on countless critical occasions such as at Stalingrad, Korsun, Falaise, the list goes on and on. He was an outstanding orator, but a terrible battlefield commander.
Good damn video there war academy!
Stop having a ai read the script. It’s literally pronouncing the same words multiple ways none of which are correct
The most weird and ugly thing that happened after WWII was the saying that “history is written by winners”. Something that unprecedented and openly, was never seen in history! That opened the way for the victorious to lie and deform history.. Many crimes were hidden, many losses were trumpeted as great victories like Kursk and many others, so it’s logical to have doubts, especially in political decisions taken by the allies and communists. WWII history, is a black hole and time has come to open the archives at list in west and learn from the truth and not myth. Crimes committed by Germany were accepted and condemned by Germany itself, but there are many crimes made by allies and especially communists that are hidden in purpose. For the history getting written by victorious, means we will never see the truth.
A great commander is one that can operate with success with depleted resources and geographic problems, unlike the likes of Montgomery who wouldn't get out of bed unless he had overwhelming resources. I think the disappointment I have with Manstein is the paper he wrote saying the Wermacht was innocent of war crimes, which was untrue. Still, he did serve time and was instrumental in rebuilding the West German army in the 1950s. A very fine tactician.
@donaldmiller5524
Жыл бұрын
The reason for Montgomery attacking only when guaranteed a victory was that Britain had just sustained a long series of defeats and morale was at a premium. They had to be assured of victory to get used to the idea. As well, Britain had a manpower problem and couldn't afford other kinds of battles. Then too, the Germans were excellent at defense with the right weaponry. The Germans liked manoeuvre and hated static fighting and continuous big noise of bombardment.
@geoffdevore6321
Жыл бұрын
Very good summary!! I too have thought that the one of the main reason the Aliens won was because America was never bombed, their factories could turn out airplanes, guns, tanks, ships unhindered!! Plus Germany was fighting Great Britain and Russia!! The Wermacht compared to the Brutal SS was a lot cleaner! Not perfect, not defending the Wermacht completely, just saying the soldiers in the regular army were not as ruthless as the SS soldiers!!
@hakeemzahardi9207
Жыл бұрын
Attacking when there are overwhelming resources is the strategy itself. Amateur talks tactics, Professional talks logistic
@geoffdevore6321
Жыл бұрын
@@hakeemzahardi9207 Bottom line: Montgomery was not so good a Commander against German Battle commanders!!! I'm a Allied man myself but must and will give the Axis credit for holding out as long as they did!!
@petros311
Жыл бұрын
@@geoffdevore6321 there are many examples that werhmacht units under the high command orders were commiting war crimes, most usual the retaliation and extermination of inocent villagers for guerilla warfare. this was done in many countries in the balkans and in france. in many instances a kiling of handfull of german soldiers resulted to the deaths of 100-500 civilians, men women childrent!
Von Manstein was an absolute military genious,and best officer by far.
Reading news about Kharkiv and Zaporozie front in 2022 everyday is sureal
backhand blow tactics I always use them in hoi 4
fascinating analogies with the current Ukraine conflict - esp wrt logistics, defensive lines and the consequences of the belief that an opposing force is exhausted and on the verge of collapse. "Just one more push..."Problem is I don't know which contemporary side is which in this analogy. Maybe lessons for all...
I still can’t understand how did the Russians manage to gather such an epical number of troops and material and not collapse in the first push of the Barbarossa offensive considering how far behind they were compared to the Germans in technology and strategy and how did they manage to overcome and equalize if not surpass these deficiencies in such a short period of time.Their capacity of reinventing themselves during the campaign is almost unprecedented,I don’t blame Hitlers expectations of the entire Red army collapsing after having seen how the Finland campaign went for the Russians and after the first six months went by…who would have foreseen the events that were about to take place?
@lucasdamotta2931
Жыл бұрын
I think they were not that far bebind. And there’s the numbers matter. Stalin could afford to lose millions of men to death and captivity. But a defeat like Stalingrad was a catastrophe to german front because they couldn’t replenish their forces properly since they were fighting in Italy already and preparing to defend France.
@IsaacTui
10 ай бұрын
Battle of stealing stalingrad really exhausted the Germans
@dontknowaboutthis7425
9 ай бұрын
"manage to gather such an epical number of troops" they didnt. germans estimated a manpower pool of 11 mio for the soviet union, soviet archives show 9.8 mio men fought during the second world war. for the biggest part of 1941 and 1942 the wehrmacht actually had the men advantage. their logistics just broke behind smolensk. which was also predicted by the armys logistics as well, the generals and hitler just insisted on continuing the offensive. the logistics got so overstretched that the germans couldnt bring their menadvantage to bear ( for example: a tank without fuel and ammunition is not only worthless, you also need to divert trucks for recovery who then cant get fuel and ammunitions for the other tanks). the wehrmacht generals lied in their accounts of the eastern front to make themselves look better: "we couldnt have won the war, the soviets outnumbered us so much, hitler fucked up everything for us etc.". and they werent called out for it because their lies could be used for propaganda in the cold war by the west. and the soviets didnt bother to correct them : "hey guys, we are actually not that powerfull like the wehrmacht generals claim."
You can be von Manstein and play the strategic (grand tactics) game from the wargame company WDS : Kharkov '43 ... but you better reserve some time because it's going to take a while.
If he not sent to Leningrad after Crimea campaign in summer 1942, and if he acted as Commander in chief from beginning of " operation Blau", war story will be quite different. He stabilized front after decisive catastrophe of two Romanian armies, von Paulus elite 6th army and Italian's 8th army. Despite of him decisive success in France 1940, Manstein wasn't ordered as main commander of" key operation Blue". At first chief was von Bock and later von Weichs. Manstein returned to Ukraine after Soviet's operation " Uranus" in late November 1942, but it was too late. I think general Gotthard Heinrici was much better option for pat - positioned Leningrad's front in mid 1942 than genius of mobile warfare , Manstein.
Manstein, Model, Guderian, Rommel... So many great commanders of the Wehrmacht.