Getting Canadian products to Hudson Bay is a great idea, get 'er done Manitoba.

@Seawiz21

5 сағат бұрын

No it’s not, there’s plenty of Ports and this would destroy Hudson Bay.

Port Nelson is a massive clay basin. They abandoned this project 100 years ago. On the other side the environmentalist that you brought on is a activist at best and a hack at the worst.

@Shaboynga

2 ай бұрын

The dredge they needed to make passive for ships remotely possible is still there rusting as an artifact. While I love the overall idea, they’ve got to send it to a deep water port…like Churchill.

@normanwells2755

22 күн бұрын

This is a new project.

@nkachur

22 күн бұрын

​@@normanwells2755really sherlock. It was a bad idea 100 years ago... What has changed?

@normanwells2755

22 күн бұрын

@@nkachur You don't think anything has changed in 100 years? Where have you been? For one thing the opportunities are greater. Port Nelson was going to be mostly for wheat export. Wheat exports in 1921 were about 2 million metric tonnes. In 2023 they were over 10x as much (21 million mt). Canola didn't exist but now about 7 million tonnes are exported yearly. Oil and gas exports were minimal, if at all. Now they account for over 25% of Canada's exports. Potash? Probably none 100 years ago now they are a major economic driver in Saskatchewan and 20 million tonnes are exported. The greater opportunities allow developers of the corridor and port to explore options unknown or too expensive in the 1920s relative to the return. Options like oil exporters in the Persian Gulf use. Al Basrah Terminal is 30 miles off shore from Iraq. Likewise Kharg Island in Iran overcomes their problem with shallow Gulf waters. Australia has some of its LNG terminals off coast as well. A hundred years ago Port Nelson had about a half mile of track out to a loading terminal in the estuary and expected to dredge to deeper waters. They found it wasn't worth it for the volumes they would do. Bulk commodity terminals on the scale Canada has to export now could be out further Maybe they won't be viable. That's what the study is supposed to find out. This isn't for the small minded. I'm sure you've had that issue before.

@polskiewinnipeg

3 күн бұрын

@@nkachur fact that the river flow isnt what it used to be cause of our hydro dams, have you ever been up there or just sit in your chair at home like a typical canadian

You want to help the poor? Do you want to lower greenhouse gases? Do you want to stop the financing of dictators and terrorist? If yes then you must support Canadian LNG and other products like potash.

Love the idea! Go Manitoba👏

There's an island of marble in Hudsons' Bay and all the blocks (granite sized type for cutting) go to Italy for custom cutting; it's the only marble in the world with real gold ribboning through it. Unique. there are also minerals: glacial shied is right there. Of course you should have another Port. It doesn't sideline anyone.

Good idea the northern passage will be open much sooner than expected

@ryanprosper88

2 ай бұрын

Churchill is already a deep water port and has all the infrastructure available for a huge Harbour

I'm not for or against petroleum but I hate when people are saying to get rid of it. yet they are wearing clothing and glasses using computer, internet, eating food, and everything else they do every day that is an oil and gas by product I don't think many people realize we would have absolutely nothing we have today without oil and gas products. Even primitive light from kerosene hundreds of years ago. Literally from primitive time for lighting until today it's used in everything from medications to transportation, heating, clothing, you name it. At the minimum have a valid replacement before saying to get rid of it.

@seanrodgers1839

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Even if we go full renewable, we still to make the money and research and build replacements. It won't happen fast. You can't cut off the supply before some, yet unknown, new way is in place. Canada exporting oil doesn't increase use, it just means we make money instead of someone else, who cares not one bit about tbe environment.

@77142957

2 ай бұрын

​@@seanrodgers1839 Wind & solar will be deemed illegal for grid power, virgin land destroyed, millions of animals displaced or killed and they don't work. Ecological disaster.

Its not going to hPpen theres a reasonit got moved 100 years ago

Great concepts, include Alberta and Saskatchewan in the negotiations. ❤❤

Albertans and sask should help out

@svenjohnson2389

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, all stakeholders should be involved.

@DavidTa2

2 ай бұрын

The whole country should. The Arctic is going to thaw completely soon and transportation through the north will be happening at an enormous rate. Best to get some initial infrastructure built sooner rather than later.

A hundred years ago, Port Nelson had to be dredged for it be be made ready to be a port. The investors of the time brought up a dredger and to this day it lay on the dock structure with it's back broken. They spent millions to do the work they did at that time, had a rail link, but with modern engineering they could most likely be able to make it viable if there were investors, and provincial partners with Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta. We have Saskatchewan potash, LNG, and oil to be shipped for international markets. We could also invest in TarSand bithuim refinery in Manitoba. This would bring jobs, and income to all prairie provinces. So, work on both Churchill, and Fort Neilson. Get er' done.

Build a natural gas pipline up the valley and an LNG port on Hudson's bay to export to Europe.

The original port dredged until there was a huge windstorm that placed there dredge ontop of the causeway they built, it was to much monies to get it off and the workforce was gone due to ww1, and then right after the great depression, for this and any projects it spelled the end. Unlike our southern neighbours who actually get shit done, canada is always half way and Quit due to some political activist pressure just like the activist climate dude interviewed....

Wasn’t there 20 different reasons port Nelson was originally abandoned? The logistics didn’t work back when people had endless ambition. It’s not going to magically work now.

@dosmundos3830

2 ай бұрын

name the 20 reasons, or at least 1 of the reasons lol

@Kolton9330

Ай бұрын

1. **Severe Silting**: The fast-flowing Nelson River caused significant silting, rendering the initial wharf design impractical. This necessitated costly redesigns and construction of an artificial island, which further complicated the project. 2. **Material Shortages**: World War I led to shortages of critical materials, delaying construction and escalating costs. 3. **Labour Disputes**: Frequent labor disputes hampered progress and contributed to project delays. 4. **Storm Damage**: Several storms caused significant damage to infrastructure, including a notable event in 1924 that grounded a dredge onto the artificial island. 5. **Fires and Accidents**: Fires and boating accidents caused additional delays and damage. 6. **Political and Financial Support Withdrawal**: The onset of World War I shifted political and financial support away from the project, leading to further setbacks. 7. **Difficulties in Harbour Construction**: The complex nature of building a harbour on an artificial island proved more challenging and expensive than anticipated. 8. **Economic Infeasibility**: Over time, it became evident that the costs outweighed the economic benefits, leading to skepticism about the project’s viability. 9. **Technical Challenges**: Engineers faced numerous technical challenges that they were unable to overcome with the technology and resources available at the time. 10. **Competition from Churchill**: Eventually, Churchill was deemed a more suitable location due to its better natural harbor and despite its own set of challenges, leading to a shift in focus and resources. 11. **Isolation**: The remote location made logistics and transportation of materials and workers difficult and costly. 12. **Maintenance Neglect**: Maintenance of existing infrastructure was neglected, leading to rapid deterioration and further escalating repair costs. 13. **Financial Mismanagement**: Reports of financial mismanagement and lack of coherent oversight plagued the project. 14. **Political Disputes**: There were significant political disputes over the location and jurisdiction of the port, complicating decision-making and progress. 15. **Changing Priorities**: As Canada’s political and economic priorities shifted during and after the war, the importance of the Port Nelson project diminished. 16. **Geographic Challenges**: The challenging geography and climate of the region added to the difficulties of construction and operation. 17. **Insufficient Initial Planning**: Initial planning and feasibility studies were insufficient and did not account for the full scope of challenges. 18. **Alternative Routes**: Other routes and methods for grain export became more viable and preferred over the Hudson Bay route. 19. **Economic Recession**: The economic recession following World War I made large-scale projects like Port Nelson less feasible. 20. **Natural Disasters**: Natural disasters, including storms and harsh weather, frequently damaged infrastructure and disrupted progress.

@royg9776

25 күн бұрын

@@Kolton9330 Respect for the effort lol

Shirt cell phone Adironback pond guys comments are all Red Herrings.

Media guy narrator is clearly biased against this project with his Canadian tone

@crackermcwhitey1364

Жыл бұрын

What did you expect? It's the CBC reporting.

@ugiswrong

Жыл бұрын

Your reply was censored for me, or just my own comment was

Should build a new city there for all the new canadians too.

It's definitely a good idea. Western Canada is still fast growing and needs all the economic investment it can get. I just want it to be equitable and sustainable too..

@stickynorth

9 ай бұрын

Except crude oil exports by ship. That one has sailed, as it were... The risks for contamination in Hudson Bay are too high.

@mrowniii

3 ай бұрын

Manitoba is not in western Canada.

@emptyhad2571

Ай бұрын

@@mrowniiiit is

@mrowniii

Ай бұрын

@@emptyhad2571 no lol

It's about damned time! Forget the feds, make it interprovincial, Alberta would probably pay for most of it just to get their cleaner products to Europe and elsewhere!

GET IT DONE

He didn't show us his electric vehicle to back up his bashing of oil.

Ice will still be a problem. Oil, gas, ect are 12 month markets/products. Anything on Hudson's Bay is a 5-6 month port.

I was recently watching a video about why Port Nelson was given up on a century ago, in favour of Port Churchill.

Build both plus heavy rail, and highways to each location, and look further into the future for trade and tourism. Question for those who know, is the fishing good in the bay, what kind of fish are there?

Thumbs down for every CBC vid with comments off

Thanks to Global Warming Canada gets another port to ship food out to the world. Let us hope global warming will extend the growing season to feed the world's poor.

I suggested this ten years ago!

But we're not even properly using the port we already got...

This is a great idea. When the climate fraud derails oil & gas will be in much higher demand even with demand going up every year now. Very viable project.

Greaat idea 8n reducing carbon and removing the usual extorrtion of the east.

Not a bad idea imo

Hmmm…

1. Improve life on the planet with new port. 2. Climate Alarmism puts stop to new project. 3. Taxpayer funded media outlet becomes platform for social marxist agenda.

Bypass the east and the prairies can be a prosperous place free of Eastern woke politics. Wab is an excellent example of a politician who cares.

In other news a shady investor is 7 million dollars richer.

Wow what a hipster Rufus. Ok you may be financially secure. A lot of Canadians are not. Let’s go. Let’s build. Europe builds so much up north. That why little northern countries compete with us. What’s happening to Canadians? We got a taste of the good life

They tried to build Port Nelson in 1912, they failed, Port basin is to shallow. This is just smoke and mirrors. Here is a video highlighting the abandoned port, about 15 minutes long. kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4OEyrydn82pqJc.html

@dosmundos3830

2 ай бұрын

sea levels have risen a foot since 1912, just saying ;)

Tom Jackson needs to stick to acting.

@normanwells2755

22 күн бұрын

Would you say that if he was an envirosocialist?

@greathodgy22

22 күн бұрын

@@normanwells2755 What the hell is a envirosocialist ?

@normanwells2755

22 күн бұрын

@@greathodgy22 If you don't understand now, you never will.

@greathodgy22

22 күн бұрын

@@normanwells2755 Thanks for confirming that.

A day late & dollar short, always the Canada way.

Wake up manitoba we dont need this port .

@user-zp7jp1vk2i

6 ай бұрын

Manitoba. It would be a Federal go ahead: think PP and talk turkey to him.

Wow, what a galactically stupid idea!

Eric Raider, environmentalist or extremist? ZERO!!

i love how everybody who is against any of these projects has a government job were you get a paycheck for being unproductive or are a native who has never worked a day in their life but gets free everything from the taxpayer

@qualicumwilson5168

3 ай бұрын

Maybe you would not hear from The unproductive government worker if people did not expect the government to pay for it. Do you really want to hear these people complain? Let the Government waste a bunch of money on a non-working idea. Then just listen.

@mrowniii

3 ай бұрын

Or maybe are only lucid people who understand this project is un feasible and a waste of money and ressources. You should have stayed school.

@stanpatterson5033

2 ай бұрын

I'm against it, too. But, I'd just like to point out that I fit neither of the 2 categories that you listed. I work hard for a living , and I'm a taxpayer. I don't want to see my hard-raped taxes going towards a mega-project that will flop like it did a hundred years ago. The waters there are too shallow and the Nelson River dumps way too much sediment. Dredging would be absolutely endless, and expensive. There's already an existing port in Churchill, make it work. No matter how much THAT would take, would still be cheaper by far.

@dosmundos3830

2 ай бұрын

everybody's an expert and no one has a clue lol