I'm proud to say that I cleaned up every spec of litter from that park every Sunday for eighteen months from January 2006 to July 2007, The park at the time was not very pleasant, drug addicts used it, I picked up scores of needles. I was a member of Freinds Of Angel Meadow. That was my little contribution in the group's drive to get the council's Green Flag award. Other main members did most of the work behind the scenes working on getting grants and raising money along with lots of bulb planting and general work to make the park what it is today, one of the few green public spaces in the city centre. I must say though that I do have a vested interest, I own a little flat next to the park which does very well for me since i bought it off plan in 2004. Thank you Aidan for your great work with these videos.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

Glad to hear from someone who was involved with FOAM. My contact there was Michael Wingfield. I wouldn't mind getting involved in such things but I never have enough spare time! The Friends have done a great job and also let's not forget all the other Friends groups at all the parks in the local area - Platt Fields for instance.

It would be nice if you could move further north and show us to what depths Cheetham Hill Road has sunk. Some splendid Victorian shops are going to rack and ruin. This road should be a boulevard not the slum it is.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

Do you mean south or north of Queen’s Road. For this channel I need to focus on new construction, not sure how much there is along there. I’ll take a look.

Congratulations for being immortalised at Angel Meadow Park. It looks like a lovely urban oasis and it's good to see the new surrounding developments.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

Yes I'm glad to have my photo and name on the information board. It's a fascinating area, with a strong Irish heritage, though the people lived in abject poverty, unimaginable today.

Incredible amount of development happening all over Manchester

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

It certainly is, it is unprecedented. It seems to have increased 10-fold over the past few years. It provides me with lots of subject matter!

I think Glassworks has an incredible soar factor from a distance, It's quite surprising how small it looks up close.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I think that's very true. I think the building looks good. Many thanks for your comment.

Thanks for adding the historical facts interwoven in your excellent presentation Aidan. Quite a bit of research and forethought! They truly add value and enhance your observations on the modern urban landscape. The mentions of historical buildings will hopefully encourage Manchester City Council to understand how important it is to memorialize the history of Manchester by incorporating old facades into new development. Yours is a challenge to architects to think creatively about how to accomplish this task, in ways that do justice to the Old while adding alternative dimensions to the New. Great work and I look forward to future editions of your vlog.

@AidanEyewitness

8 ай бұрын

Thanks you very much for the acknowledgement. Yes, a fair amount of fact-finding goes into every video. It takes time and effort but I enjoy it. I don’t think Manchester City Council pay the slightest attention to me and others like me. Architects have their own agenda. I’m a great admirer of Jane Jacobs who campaigned successfully to stop planned highways that would have cut through Greenwich Village and Lower Manhattan. Many thanks for your positive words.

I worked at the CIS building from 1987-2000 and had many lunchtime trips to and from The Ducie Bridge….happy times 👍🏻🍺

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

Great to hear about your connection to the Ducie Bridge and the CIS building. I once taught a few lessons of English to three Spanish señoritas in the boardroom at the top. I never went to the Ducie Bridge though.

@imgoodatmoaning9561

4 ай бұрын

I worked there from 1987 too. I was one of the last few people in it before it closed. It was virtually empty due to lockdowns. Very weird to see it almost empty.

I love your reference to the Inland Steel building in Chicago-architecture really is a discourse community. Very exciting! Love the vlog format, the juxtaposing of the old and new is so dynamic - it makes Manchester one of the most vibrant cities in the world. I wish I could be there to feel it again! Thank you, Aiden!

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I love transatlantic connections and that is a very strong one! I love the Inland Steel building, it is superb and I loved the black and white photos produce by Skidmore, Owings and Merrill showing it in use. From the point of view of size, the smaller New Century Hall is more similar to the Inland Steel Building. My friend's daughter has moved into an apartment in on West Adams and South Peoria. In the photos the views look stunning. I thought I'd love to live in an apartment like that, but of course, nowadays, Manchester also has towers similar to those in Chicago. Great to hear from you and I'm encouraged to hear you like the vlog style. That will definitely be my style now in most videos.

Hong Kong developer Far East Consortium is behind the Victoria Riverside project. They are also redeveloping Queen's Wharf in Brisbane, if you fancy taking a look Down Under. The latter is quite controversial given the heritage buildings nearby but I think Brisbane wanted something iconic to rival Sydney. The government is also linking up the north bank (government and university) and south bank (arts) of the Brisbane River with the Neville Bonner Bridge, and making everything more accessible with cycle ways etc. It's quite interesting from a liveable city point of view, almost Dutch in nature. They also make good use of the Brisbane River with regular ferries. The downside is the casino but these are seen as key in many Australian developments. There's one in Melbourne, and at the upmarket Barangaroo development in Sydney. In the case of the latter, it is quite tastefully hidden.

@AidanEyewitness

4 ай бұрын

Very interesting information. I have looked at Brisbane as it seems like an interesting city. It’s a bit far for me to get to with my Brompton bike! Thanks for the information about Victoria Riverside. 🙂

It’s amazing how modern the CIS building still looks. It’s around 60 years old and it doesn’t look out of place side by side of the new ones. I remember being on the 35 bus ( pre 135) coming towards the city in the 70’s and thinking wow every time I saw an actual skyscraper!!… personally I like all the investment in Manchester. Not sure about the two at Victoria they seem pretty unimaginative compared to other developments, but on the whole I’m for it.

@AidanEyewitness

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I loved the CIS building as a child, it was modern and exciting. I loved Sunley Tower (now City Tower) Piccadilly Plaza. It's important to note that the CIS tower looks different to how it looked when first built. The small tiles were covered over with solar panels. It still looks grea today.

@deejaydoubleyou1966

3 ай бұрын

I also liked the pictures of the Picadilly radio DJ’s on the Portland street side. Was the only time you could actually see what they looked like… 261.!!

@AidanEyewitness

3 ай бұрын

@@deejaydoubleyou1966 Yes, I remember those pictures very clearly!

I think once the builders have finished then the tenants or owners of the apartments have to pay ridiculous service fees and rents, even the new ‘gentrified’ residents will struggle financially and these may be the slums of the future. Great presentation by the way

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

Not sure what the service fees are. I have no interest in any of these properties apart from documenting their construction and how they fare in the coming years! Many thanks for your comment. :)

Good to see Angel Park, Manchester is a great City but there sometimes appears to be so much building that the City is never finished and is always a building site, I'd love to see more little pockets of green space, I think Stockport is finally getting it right after years of nothingness, St Peter's square, the park on top of the bus station, Grand central square and even the much maligned Redrock have all brought more greenery to the centre.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

Yes, Stockport has many superb parks all over the borough though in the original 'county borough' part of Stockport, there aren't many. Hollywood Park is nice, Alexandra Park is where I played as a child, Woodbank, Vernon, but not so many in the centre - Heaton Norris Park overlooks the centre. I'm looking forward to seeing the rooftop park.

I like St Catherine’s city park. That is going to be amazing.

@AidanEyewitness

8 ай бұрын

Yes, it looks like it's going to be a transformative project. I found this on the Manchester World site. I need to go and take a look. Thanks for reminding me. www.manchesterworld.uk/news/st-catherines-wood-and-red-bank-new-neighbourhood-and-park-plans-progress-as-estate-to-be-demolished-in-manchester-3612094

Dantzic (Street) was likely named by or after merchants from Gdansk in Poland, a busy port city. The German name for Gdansk is Danzig.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

Yes, it was a German city for many centuries and became Polish after World War Two. I visited once, it had been magnificently restored. I think it's because of Manchester's trading links with Germany/Prussia in the 19th century.

@markwolstenholme3354

10 ай бұрын

@@AidanEyewitness Thanks Adrian, I wasn't to sure but remembered something about it from years ago with Lech Walesa, the Polish union chap. Just historical memory that's all 😁.

@English_Dawn

10 ай бұрын

Correct The Co-op had a period of Teutinically naming property. Another example is Hannover House, fronting Corporation Street and recently renovated.

Love your travels about Manchester Aidan …I just wish I’d taken more photos of Upper Brook Street in the 60’s before the demolition and so called slum clearance. In many respects they were not slums and the streets could have been rejuvenated very much like Ancoats is going through now I suppose. Chorlton on Medlock was where I grew up February Street to be precise living cheek by jowl with the MRI (Manchester Royal Infirmary). This and the university now dominate this road and the scores of streets that once stood are no more, except Mrs Gaskells old residence on Plymouth Grove next to the little Swinton Park. Thank you Aidan.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

That's a point - many of the houses that were knocked down could have been restored. The whole area around Chorlton-on-Medlock is completely different to what was there up to the 60s. The opening scenes of A Taste of Honey gives an impression of Moss Side, you can see the smoke-blackened Zion Centre, now Z-Arts. It wasn't demolished but all around was, apart from a couple of pubs. Then the Crescents were built and demolished. Hopefully the mistakes of the past won't be repeated, but I'm not so sure.

I find the response from commentators, including yourself, about New Vic to be very interesting! Most seem to prefer the front, slimmer view and find the side oppressive. Like a “wall” or “curtain”. Now, I certainly wouldn’t want every building to be like this. However, I find the side view to have a magnificent and unique soar-factor when coming towards Victoria Station. I also find the front view to appear cheap with its golden trim. It is certainly unique in its monotony and perhaps that is the biggest accolade to Manchester’s rapid development of all.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

After seeing your comment - sorry for not replying earlier - I decided to feature New Vic prominently in my 5 Controversial Projects video. I find New Vic impressive in some ways, oppressive in others! I don't mind the shiny gold trim on the south facing elevation.

New Vic looks so weird up close, like it's balanced precariously in that tiny strip of land between the road and the station ...

@English_Dawn

10 ай бұрын

That land fronted Long Millgate which since medieval times was the main route from Scotland (Ducie) Bridge, past the Cathedral (then the parish church) past the old manorial court (where Selfridges now is) to Acresfield where the St. Matthew's Fair was held for 600 years, since the 1200's. Now St. Ann's Square forms part of Acresfield. It passed the manorial bakehouse facing Chetham's - (where the grassy area alongside the National Football Museum, now is. Corporation Street on the other side of that land, was only built on the 1840's. Facing the side entrance to Vic. Station, known as "Cigar Alley" was, some might recall, the Manchester Arms Hotel, until it was demolished in the 70's(?). This used to be a residence, in the back garden of which, James Sadler made his famous balloon ascent (which came down in Whitefield) and after which Balloon Street and Sadler's Yard, are named.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

Some people have been posting about it on Twitter. It looks okay from the end but from the side, I find it oppressive. It's like a groundscaper.

@celebalert5616

10 ай бұрын

@@English_Dawn that's so awesome

Aidan hi. Please note that Red Bank has a long history. There is evidence of Saxon habitation, by the river bank. It was also, I understand, where many Jews from Eastern Europe, first settled. Mcr was the second newspaper city after London. Numerous national titles were printed in Mcr. Most went by train. Special wagons, "Newspaper Vans" were used. A lot of the newspaper traffic emanated from Red Bank Sidings. It was huge and many trains were double-headed via the Diggle Route to the North East, travelling through the night. Further North were Cheetham Hill sidings, near where the Metrolink Depot is. Many returning Blackpool trains were stabled during the day at them. The funny name, Scotland Bridge (a.k.a. Ducie Bridge) was not linked to the country geographically, but to the type of cattle, that was popular in the city and were raised in Red Bank and around the Earl of Ducie's property at Strangeways Hall. Most "official" guides miss most of this out. They might mention Mcr's Roman foundation for a sentence or two, then fast forward to the Industrial Revolution, missing over a thousand years of history, including the Siege of Mcr during the Civil War and Bonnie Prince Charlie's arrival with his Jacobite army. The start of the history of textiles belonged to the Middle Ages when the local baron invited Flemings to start up two mills on the bank of the Irk, near to where Vic. Station is, producing power for their equipment. The clue's in the name - Millgate.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

Your comments are always so informative and I always find out nrew things! Many thanks. It was a different world back in pre-1970s times, unimaginable for many younger people but I think I have a very good appreciation and understanding of life throughout the 20th century and before. My dad was born in 1908.

@English_Dawn

9 ай бұрын

@@AidanEyewitness Thank you. I feel "official" history tends to short change Mcr's history. There may be a paragraph or so of the Romans in guides, a little on the foundations of the Parish Church and the College but then hurdles to the 1800's. The founder of the Guardian was, I think, at Peterloo. Yet the founders, I think about 11, had a number that had an indirect or direct link to slavery, owning shares in plantations. To their credit the Guardian has just put it's hand up, saying so. It must have been hard work for them. David Lloyd-George was born in Chorlton on Medllock pretty much a neighbour of Emmaline Pankhurst. Unlike Emmaline David gets little shrift from the publicity machine. Thank you for your comments.

@English_Dawn

9 ай бұрын

@@AidanEyewitness Part 2. Do you remember Mcr Pre-Arndale Centre? Whole swathe of lost streets. Including the Thatched Cottage inn, which is, I think, the only recorded place Friedrich Engles went for a drink The house where Bonnie Prince Charlie stayed as well, which I think became the Albion Hotel, on Market Street, yards from Debenhams. Strangest of all? Cock-fighting pits were popular during Georgian times. The most popular one was I think close to where "Next" currently stands.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

@@English_Dawn Thanks again, very informative!

Gotta say that New Vic development is a real eyesore.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

From the top end and maybe the bottom end it is okay but from the side.... :(

I thought high rise living was a failed 60's concept! I would be interested to know from people who have lived in the modern versions for at least a few years what it is really like. What is the noise like from neighbouring apartments? Are they cosy and draft proof? How long do you have to wait for lifts in rush hours? Are there many problems with burst pipes, out of order lifts etc? Are there many families with children and if so how do they cope? What about security?

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

All very good questions. When I have a chance, I will see if I can find answers to these questions.

they are the council flats of the 2020a.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

Hopefully not like the Hulme Crescents!

@888ssss

9 ай бұрын

people will come home and the wife will ask how the office was, and they will say its exactly the same as this. @@AidanEyewitness

@imgoodatmoaning9561

4 ай бұрын

@@888ssss😂😂😂

I thought it was interesting that you showed the rendering for City River Park as "Northern Dream" and New Vic as "Northern Nightmare". I'm assuming you're expressing your view on the oppressive "wall like" nature of the development. I also don't love it. Its narrow windows make me think of a high security institution like a prison. It's why I complain about brutalism, a building should be made to look inviting, in harmony, in scale and open to its surroundings. I don't think that is the case here.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

I held back from direct criticism as I want people to give their impressions. I think the architects have gone badly wrong with this project. People often talk about the oppressive groundscraper 5 Broadgate by Make Architecture in London. This seems in a simiilar vein, though I need to visit 5 Broadgate myself. When I look at that picture I get a sense of claustrophobia, it's like a dystopian scene from a science fiction movie, the vertical lines are like tears, the grey is unremitting. I'll go and take a look at it again on another day. Many thanks as ever for your comment!

@ians3586

9 ай бұрын

@@AidanEyewitness 5 Broadgate is a very apt comparison. When we are in London we often stay in a hotel nearby and so I've seen the UBS HQ first hand. Make would argue that they were trying to make a building that is more environmentally conscious without the massive amounts of glass used by most buildings in central London. Unfortunately, it comes off as being very fortress-like and institutional. I'd love to talk to you about London architecture at some point. If you end up making a trip there please reach out to me before you go.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

@@ians3586 I would really appreciate chatting with you about architecture in London. I am focusing mostly on Manchester & Liverpool at the moment but hope to visit London soon. On my last visit to London I took a lot of photos but some were lost due to a technical problem. I’ll need to do them again but that will be something to look forward to.

surprisingly for across the sea, this area featured is NOT pedestrian friendly at all at all.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

It will be more pedestrian friendly in the future after the redevelopment is completed.

Are you Aidan O'Rourke who used to post on Skyscrapercity forums?

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

I’ve never posted on Skyscrapercity forums but I am going to try to in future! I must have a Doppelgänger. There is a famous Scottish fiddle player with the same name as me, but that wasn’t him!

That first shot was so miserable. They desperately need to plant more street trees in Manchester.

@rinkydinkmcruk

10 ай бұрын

That’s one small street in the worst looking area. Context is key ❤

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

I don't think it's so bad. Trees wouldn't improve it. They said they were going to cover or remove the infamous yellow tiles, but they are clearly to be seen in that view! Many thanks for your comment.

@English_Dawn

10 ай бұрын

Mcr was famous for it's lack of city centre churches (which had been demolished to make way for warehouses) and lack of trees and flora and fauna of any kind, apart from St. Mary's Parsonage and Piccadilly Gardens. If any City did more to wreck climate change, I have to hear of it. Gradually, Mcr has been dragged kicking and screaming, to plant more trees in the city centre.

@English_Dawn

10 ай бұрын

Facing the Glassworks, the Shudehil Shard, opposite Nicholas Croft stood Wythengreave Hall, where the Arndale Car Park now is. Wythengreave Hall was one of two residences in the area. The landowner of Shudehill lived at Wythengreave Hall which had it's own orchard (it's hard to believe) until the 1600's. Facing the Glassworks, where the spiral car park ramp is, was where Mcr's oldest pub was, the original "Rovers's Return" stood until the 60's. It dated from around the time of Edward I in the early 1300's.

its like children have taken over the council.

@AidanEyewitness

Ай бұрын

What would you do differently if you were in the council?

@buy.to.let.britain

Ай бұрын

the council are inexperienced. they are in record levels of debt on vanity projects. when bad times come they wont have the budget reserves to cope. thats why i call them childish. it is how a child would budget.@@AidanEyewitness

@buy.to.let.britain

Ай бұрын

also there is nothing sustainable about student debts, and these graduates are being sold vanity qualifications, of little commercial use. they are building massively in a market that is not sustainable. in 5 years, people will stop attending these big university cities, once it becomes clear going to them is a waste of time and money. @@AidanEyewitness

@buy.to.let.britain

Ай бұрын

to fix this, they will try and claim the older housing is 'not climate friendly' and bulldoze them. like they did in the 1960s. and force the sukkas into these rental only sky prisons///@@AidanEyewitness

@AidanEyewitness

Ай бұрын

@@buy.to.let.britain You’re raising a legitimate concern and someone needs to write an investigative article on this. Only time will tell if fallout occurs some time in the future. Many thanks for your comment.

The Glassworks a.k.a. the Shudehill Shard courtesy of Fred Done 'Salboy" who started his career at Mcr. Racecourse. Miller Street was the site of Arkwright's Mill which kickstarted production-line manufacturing. The area suffered significant bomb damage during WW2, bomb sites were a feature of the area. Bomb damage in WWI (?). I think there were two incursions from Zeppelins that were operated by the German Imperial Navy appearing over the North Sea. One reached Mcr, the other Bolton. German properganda featured an attack on "Liverpool". Navigation was in it's infancy. Liverpool was untouched. The victim was Burton-on-Trent! One of the developers of Red Bank states Mcr has a student population of 100k. 55% of whom will stay after graduating, though not all in the city centre. They cannot build fast enough for these young, often middle-class, purchasers. The obligatory gymnasium and swimming pools included, are testament to this. Mcr used to be a city with universities, now it's a university city, with the retail market steered towards them. You hardly see anyone with grey hair in the city centre. This will no doubt affect the politics of Mcr. The shots inside Vic, is where the Picc-Vic scheme would have surfaced. Another rail scheme that bit the dust. Much in the same way that the Northern Hub has bitten the dust. Planned to alleviate rail congestion at Picc and accelerate footfall to the burgeoning New Bailey & Spinningfield business districts. The other parts of the Northern Hub have been kicked into the long-grass. Leaving the Ordsall Chord as a pitiful echo of what might have been, with a paltry one-train-per-hour service in each direction! As far as I understand, trains using the Ordsall Chord are not stopping at Salford Central. To think the rail access to the oldest railway station in the world Liverpool Road, was severed for that! Could only happen in such a place. Thank you for your coverage. What is your view of the planning decision taken days ago of Reedham House? One of apparently, only 5 carriage works from the 19th century. At the same planning meeting permission was granted for a student tower in the IQ Quarter, on the site of Chandos House. It's behind the Bull's Head pub. What is the nation's Second City? Londoner = Birmingham. Brummie = Birmingham. Manc = London.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

Thanks - I gave my reactions to Reedham House in my '5 controversial projects' video. I think it's a shame that the facade will be demolished, but at least they are restoring the building at the back. Many thanks for your very informed comments. I hope to look at some of the other projects you mentioned.

@English_Dawn

9 ай бұрын

@@AidanEyewitness Yes, I watched your Reedham House video, many thanks. At the same meeting plans were given for a student tower, over the railway, from U.M.I.S.T "Little Brasilia" and Harry S. Fairhurst's Renold Building in the ID Quarter and close to the Sackville Building with it's Godley Observatory. N. B. Not sure if you've missed it but Trinity Way, Salford, the occupiers, Renault, have decided to release the land, 4 acres. It is close to Collier's Yard. Salford Council apparently have no objection to change of use to residential which will probably get the notice of Renaker & Salboy.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

@@English_Dawn I will take a look at those projects. Many many thanks for flagging them up. I don’t do this full time so I can’t keep up with all the planning decisions and approvals etc. your help is much appreciated :)

@English_Dawn

9 ай бұрын

@@AidanEyewitness You're welcome. Bit of rivalry developing (sic) between Salford and Mcr who can develop most! The ID ("Vimto") Quarter being a little hidden away from the general public, an island of Modernism practically unnoticed. A bit like the Kampus area was. Have you heard of the flamboyant character Roger Aytoun? Scottish soldier. During the Georgian period the big social event was the races, then held on Kersal Moor (please see the film Peterloo for the racing sequence). Roger met the heiress of the Minshull estates at the races and subsequently married her. Wasn't long before he started selling off her land, in parcels, again where Kampus is and near Chorlton Street bus station etc. He wanted to form his own regiment.

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

@@English_Dawn Interesting to hear the connection between Aytoun and Minshull streets! :)

Another excellent video. My favourite building under construction is the St Michaels Gary Neville Scheme. However it is appalling that Manchester doesn't have an underground (or Birmingham) and it better damn well get it's Piccadilly underground HS2 station. I'll buy you a coffee sometime Aidan. Incidentally the plans for Piccadilly Gardens are now going to take another year as LDA have been chosen (who designed the brief so a waste of time and money asking for other proposals maybe).

@English_Dawn

10 ай бұрын

Yes, cities the size of Birmingham & Mcr would have had a metro as standard, in Europe. Plans existed for various schemes, most notably the Trinity and later Picc-Vic schemes. However metro systems like inner city parks were never taken seriously in Mcr. Even today look at Oxford Road, where the main hospitals and universities are, known as the Corridor, it has 70k students, the Whitworth Art Gallery, Aquatics Centre, Royal Northern College of Music et al and a vibrant nightlife and hotel scene. Does Andy Burnham and the planners have any plan to connect this area which provides a fifth of the city's GDA, with a Metrolink service? No. Completely out of the question despite it once being a major trunk light rail route until the 40's. The main hospitals and universities alone would be sufficient in mainland Europe. Their reasoning? Oxford Road isn't wide enough! You could not make this up. Metrolink has now settled on one design, the "island platform" , q. v. Exchange Square. The old bus stop style, like the original High Street/Market Street/Mosley Street is now completely out of fashion, though in some cases it would be the most obvious answer as it takes less room up. The heavy rail is just as bad. Mcr is a bottleneck so the government agreed to pay for the Northern Hub. To route more trains, like Sheffield to Liverpool services via Vic. Key parts were:- 1). The Ordsall Chord. 2). Extra platforms at Salford Central, so trains using the Ordsall Chord could stop and service the New Bailey & Spinningfield business districts. 3). Lengthening platforms at Oxford Road. 4). Providing 2 new platforms [15 & 16] at Picc. 5). To upgrade and electrify, to main line standards, the then diversionary line from Midland Junction (Ashburys) to Philip's Park Junction line (past MCFC stadium). Nonetheless, needless to say, the Ordsall Chord was in fact built, then all the rest shelved. Typical. It defeats most of the object of building the Ordsall Chord, if the other elements don't reach fruition. Even worse, the rail connection from the oldest rail station in the world, Liverpool Road, was sacrificed for a scheme that never was built! Just one-train-per-hour is scheduled currently over the Ordsall Chord and I don't think it stops at Salford Central. A text-book example of how a scheme of huge potential was ruined because it was only done at half-cock.

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

I couldn't have put it better myself! Many thanks for your contributions. Trains on the Ordsall Chord - the Transpennine to and from Manchester Airport - do not stop at Salford Central.

There are a few problems with the Dream.... It rains and is overcast nearly all the time in Manchester...and the streets are full of ne'er do wells and immigrants pushing prams.

@rinkydinkmcruk

10 ай бұрын

What utter crap

@lordgemini2376

10 ай бұрын

Xenophobic much?

@AidanEyewitness

10 ай бұрын

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@CarlosGambino_22

9 ай бұрын

@@lordgemini2376 he's right though..

With eu money

@AidanEyewitness

3 ай бұрын

Sorry, what is this comment referring to?

These new buildings are great. The high floors keep you safe from the gun crime on the streets

@edwardnicholls5689

10 ай бұрын

I’m sorry but this is a grossly misleading statement. The suggestion is that there is a high level of gun crime in Manchester city centre and this is simply not accurate. There is crime, certainly, like all cities, but gun crime is very rare and contained to rival criminals. I have lived in the city centre for 15 years and you do not need to live in a high rise apartment in order to be kept, or feel, safe. Great video Aiden!

@rufdymond

10 ай бұрын

@@edwardnicholls5689- Ignore them, they just post comments like this for a reaction…..

@AidanEyewitness

9 ай бұрын

Thanks very much, you are absolutely right about the crime, nothing like in some US cities but unfortunately still there in some local districts.