Management: you are a problem child but you need to be yourself.

@mechadubyaesq8289

7 ай бұрын

"You're a problem child--but now you're OUR problem child and we will protect you the best we can"

@indrahaseo

7 ай бұрын

we'll keep support her and give her own freedom is important

@Afrochilla

7 ай бұрын

Niji Management: You are a problem child so we will terminate your contract and defame your reputation

@Kristhanos

7 ай бұрын

VShojo: "You are a problem child. Wanna join?"

@QuarkGamingLLC

7 ай бұрын

Given how many times I’ve seen people say “I can fix her” and/or “but whatever the hell is wrong with her is way hotter” then they made a good choice

"Because you'll definitely be their first target" I really appreciate that the management tells them that, there is always guaranteed to be haters, no matter what, instead of shielding them against it, they prepare them, i really like that

@Ranryu692

7 ай бұрын

I interpreted that as management telling her she was the one they expected they would need to bonk first, for doing something she isn't supposed to

@huonglevan2276

7 ай бұрын

@@Ranryu692 she said enjou which is getting flamed or getting cancelled in the west. which doesn't come from management

@turritopsis_said80

4 ай бұрын

niji would never

@coffeelatte8616

3 ай бұрын

​@@Ranryu692if so.. first thing they would do is not hiring her.. but they did hired her so it's prolly their way to encourage her.. why would they hired talents that could make their image bad

@Ranryu692

3 ай бұрын

@@coffeelatte8616Because everyone makes mistakes, especially at a new job. With Nerissa being particularly yabe, it is not unreasonable to expect that she would be the first to do something that would cause a manager to say "hey, don't do that"

It was a good call to give her permission, personally. Raden was the most standout member among ReGLOSS for me with how wildly different her aura was compared to her genmates.

@watataenjoyer

7 ай бұрын

Im suprise they let her in with all her bad habits her charisma carries a long way 😂

@lilopygaming3218

7 ай бұрын

Better be upfront about it than trying to hide it and got found out. Good call. This also helps her filter out audiences that have a problem with it so they can just choose not to watch her streams

@aihara01

7 ай бұрын

She has the most subs among her gen mates

@MrSonny6155

7 ай бұрын

Idk man... The entire ReGLOSS group was and is really something special. Heck, Kanade is still as cursed as in her debut.

@geher4073

7 ай бұрын

She kinda reminds me of Coco😭

That’s why risk management is an actual job, Lethal Company

"She may be a problem child but she's our child and we love her regardless"

More great examples of why COVER is such a good company compared to some other agencies. They identified her strengths and weaknesses, and set her up for success while giving her a fair amount of creative liberty.

@indrahaseo

7 ай бұрын

their own freedom is important too

@farizsetiawan3011

7 ай бұрын

Unlike a certain agency who are not give their freedom to act (the apex tournament)

@deemur7

7 ай бұрын

@@farizsetiawan3011care to elaborate a bit?

@Meonium

7 ай бұрын

​@@farizsetiawan3011Rainbow company at it again? Or other company?

@Noname77777

7 ай бұрын

​@@farizsetiawan3011Any color

I know it's been a while since her design was revealed, but I cant get over how beautiful her hair looks. I love the colors and the style! I'd love hair like that someday!

@jomo5800

7 ай бұрын

I'm really digging her teeth, lips, and eyes!

@PrayogiCristian

7 ай бұрын

Shiorin?

@jen0s

7 ай бұрын

Pair it with her dress, the color scheme is so great! It has this earthy tone to it that's both captivating and calming. This is why it also worked really well with Vesper's redesign!

@Wirenfeldt1990

7 ай бұрын

@@PrayogiCristianglad I’m not the only one getting Shiori Big Sis vibes

@PapaCharlie9

7 ай бұрын

I agree. I think Raden won the ReGloss design lottery. Though oddly enough, I think Banchou's comparatively plain and simple model and hair style actually stands out more in comparison. Banchou's color palette is also pretty unusual and refreshing.

She is a very unique and relatable talent after all. Always love her art talk stream

Even as a virtual personality, it's important to be yourself. This is why I like JFT; she's aware of her (personally stated) shortcomings but isn't intending to let them get her down or impact what she does. It'll be interesting to see how she develops over the next year; I think she's doing fine as it is.

I mean, The more unique a person is the more interesting they become. Thats why i already like her and her weirdness cuz ppl like raden are sure to have tons of interesting stories and experiences and im all in to listening to em

I love how instead of trying to hide her vices they instead just outright let Raden be herself and be as comfortable as possible.

Raden: Can I say I smoke? Management: yes Raden: But isn't it inappropriate? Management: *Look at the whole hololive member list* Spider eating ✔️ Excessive Alcoholism ✔️ Sexual Harassment ✔️ War Criminals ✔️ Psychopaths ✔️ I think we can handle a smoker.

@VannMizan

3 ай бұрын

Excessive alcoholism... Why does a.wild.drunk Lamy come to my mind when i read that

Damn a manager for each talent? A certain company could never.

When they started the thing about 1st impression of regloss sheet, I wrote that she will be the quirky one lol. The weirdo of the group. But I like her as a streamer and her personality is interesting, it seems like having a friend like her would be fun.

I think that's a lot better than hiding

As expected of pekoras sister 😝

Hololive being the most incredible corpo as always. It's really cool to see how much they care about teir talents and wants they to feel welcomed and free

Vast majority of heavy smokers are self aware of how people perceive them, it should be obvious that Raden wouldn't publicize her habits without getting it clear with hololive management

I actually love this. It proves one thing: If you know things might get a little risky at times, they'll try to match you up with a diligent yet caring manager that helps you reel things in if needed, while giving you, for the most part, the freedom to cast.

Based Management. prioritize quality above all. they even send their drill sergeant to watch over her. drill sergeant with a heart of hello Kitty

CHAD management just letting her be herself, even when she suggested hiding it. I'm glad Cover is, more and more, decimating the preconceptions of what defines an "idol" and who can become one. I'm glad the team and Raden herself are prepared for the backlash she'll receive, I hope she will be able to endure it and flourish in Hololive Thanks for the subs!

@gan-erdene.m2732

2 ай бұрын

Arent they more of comedians than idols XDDD

It's really great to hear that Hololive is being more accepting of all sorts of personalities to accept a streamer while realizing they might face backlash from some parts of the fanbase. During the pre-debut reveal, Raden was the ReGLOSS member I was least interested in based on design. But the streamer personality always wins out, and she's now my Dev_Is oshi

@HadirUntukAnda

7 ай бұрын

tbh they already did it just the always accepted the most introverted girl that never talk to a man to agency that they seems pale compare to wild niji

@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051

2 ай бұрын

@@HadirUntukAnda Your English is so broken, I have no idea of what you are saying.

It definitely helped her stand out, and while it is unfortunate some are focusing too much on that it has allowed me to really appreciate Raden

Very good call from the staffs. These things are better declared than being found out. True, its not the best thing to be, still its far better than hiding it.

We went from Japanese parents cancelling a Kamen Rider actress for smoking to this in 3 years, wow

"nah let's go with it" based

The unsung heroes of hololive, Mane-chans o7

@thonker

7 ай бұрын

o7 for all the team behind the stage.

@violentcheerer

7 ай бұрын

@@thonker yep and people usually blast them if there's a mishap.

This is shiori but actually crazy I can fix her

I can understand that very well, there's smoker from Vtuber Nijisanji or independent vtubers as well. so there's no need to be worry anything and we'll keep support you for now, Raden-chan!

Honestly, props to management and maybe the company by extension for allowing us to love Raden as she is, rather than fabricate an image. Also props for warning her about potential backlash.

Mane chan best idol

I'm glad to see that Cover seems to be willing to take bigger risks now that HoloLive is firmly established

Nisanji makes me doubt the management thing.

Honestly amazing call to give her permission not only does it differentiate her from the rest it’s probably also good for backlash prevention

the way it should be. Real and shared. The things that make a vtuber a person outside the company add to the depth of the character in a way that character writing cannot. Within in reason, I think talents should be allowed to share personal traits and such from day one. Hell, as things stand, XD most of the Holofans know who is factually well endowed, who is factually shortest (to a degree), etc etc etc, just from talents talking about one another in very limited capacity on streams. It would be important to keep stuff out of that loop though but I think it would be fine as long as some standards are put in place to limit what CAN be shared. Speaking from having been a smoker, (been nicotine free for about 3 years now) I would have found some common ground with Raden in the fact that she smokes irl and likely watched her more.

I think cover is trying to experiment and test the fans limits with this one lol and I'm all for it. I'm more surprise that it's the overseas bros that seem to have more problems with her than the jp bros. With covers track record as the best among all other agencies I have no problem as long as the talents are properly vetted, trained and their needs taken care of. It's not a good look to any agency when graduations or huge dramas happen frequently.

@o0...957

7 ай бұрын

Well it seems Japanese people think smoking is cool.

@RedZap

7 ай бұрын

I think that's the focus of holodev_is... Upon watching clips an observing them, I can say that they are totally new to this vtuber industry (or even entertainment industry as a whole)...

@lilopygaming3218

7 ай бұрын

@@RedZap fr?? It's usually quite common that agencies hire people who have past lives or experience as content creator in some form or another.

@butternecrofly7193

7 ай бұрын

The oversea fans dislike her? Why? I understand if the jp fans did cause of the whole idol view idea.

@lilopygaming3218

7 ай бұрын

@@butternecrofly7193 oh if you saw some of the earlier clips about her, there was alot of discourse in the comments section about her habit. I'd say about half of the comments were against her smoking habits while the other half were fine with it

I'm not a fan of smoking because I've lost several family members to lung cancer caused by it. So i worry for their health. That being said I think it was definitely the right choice for them to let her be open about it. I hope she just takes care of her body too lol. I'm more fascinated by her love of fine art. I love the arts and seeing her talk so passionately about it is infectious. I got so excited when I saw her retweeting museum exhibits.

It was a good idea to just let her be herself and not try to hide her behaviors because given the size of Hololive's fan base you just KNOW at some point it would've slipped out somewhere and then be clipped and then people might hold it against her as opposed to just owning it right from day one. There's also a reason why Raden is the most popular member of REGLOSS and I think it has a lot to do with the fact that she's just so different from not only the other REGLOSS girls but also pretty much every talent in Hololive. Aside from the smoking and gambling I think Vtuber that immediately sprung to my mind when I saw her personality would have to be Salome-san from Nijisanji.

I like her because she feels like your average Joe with bad habits, that just landed a break in their life! I look forward to more from her! ^^

Very nice

We need anime about this problem child and her strict but caring manager!

I'm so glad they let her be herself. She stood out straight away & was captivating. Also, good to know they were preparing her for any potential backlash since she doesn't fit "the mold".

my favorite from regloss

Raiden job sounds tough. Dont give up.

Well, i think they predict that the viewers will find out sooner or later so they just allow it anyway.

LoL JFT RDN Meets Aki, quits smoking for her oshi like a madlass😊

She'll have to quit at some point if she's serious about the idol/singing part of her gen. Just like for Okayu&others who had to get in shape to be able to do their job as an idol

Being a heavy smoker isn't a great thing, no one should become one, but if you are, then take responsibility. Which it seems she could be, at least admitting it is the first step.

@maruboron

7 ай бұрын

I think every smoker knows the bad cause of smoking. I don't know why western people despised smoking so much yet they see drinking as normal thing even though both are bad, and being drunk also causing problem for people around.

@nazunaaaaaa

7 ай бұрын

​@@maruboronnot every western person drinks??? Also even smoking a little is disgusting for the people around you but drinking a little doesn't harm anyone else. Don't act like western people are the only ones drinking when Asian countries are some of the heaviest drinkers around

@kriosfear

7 ай бұрын

@@nazunaaaaaa work on your reading comprehension. they never said anything about westerners' drinking habits. all they said is that they tend to make a huge stink about smoking but rarely bat an eye when it comes to drinking. it isn't exactly wrong when you look further into the comments on raden clips.

@nazunaaaaaa

7 ай бұрын

@@kriosfearsmoker detected. I don't smoke or drink but I'd rather be around a drinker than a smoker because smoking is damn disgusting. Of course people are going to hate smoking more when it makes the air dirty and causes cancer.

@kriosfear

7 ай бұрын

@@nazunaaaaaa i still don't get where all these assumptions of yours come from when i never even defended smoking. all i did was clarify what another guy said. seriously, work on your reading comprehension.

the management from the other agency tho. 💀

I hope she lights one up when she does her 3d stream

It's honestly better to announce it at the beginning rather than fans finding out later and making it seem like some sort of bigger scandal or whatever

👍

don't judge the book by its cover. miss raden's stories are fun. i recommend it.

@Fishman465

7 ай бұрын

Like talent, like Oshi (Aki)

This is 100% not surprising at all. Being open and public about being a heavy smoker is INSANELY important. For example, off-collabs -- can you imagine the speculation that would ensue in the fanbase if the real reason for not meeting up with someone (avoiding second-hand smoke, for asthma or allergy reasons, etc.) had to be kept secret?

even the managers have gap moe

Finally an oshi for me

Raden is such a breath of fresh air... ironically enough, LOL! These days people are SUPER moralistic, which seems strange, but it's true. Everybody is so careful not to show the "wrong" kinds of vices. Oh, you're a shut-in? Oh, you look at da booba? Oh, you eat terrible food and/or are overweight? That's fine, even endearing. You smoke? HORRORS. It's like there are certain vices that are the scapegoats for all of the OTHER vices. We are socially allowed to browbeat people with THOSE vices, but not any other vices. So it's like Raden mostly shrugs off those extremely common social stigmas, good on her. Sure, I would love to see her overcome these vices -- just as I would be glad to hear about anybody overcomes the other vices I mentioned -- but embracing and accepting and especially enjoying people how they are right now feels really good.

@francescooley4068

7 ай бұрын

100% agreed.

@timpointer6664

7 ай бұрын

I'd day a huge proponent to it is because she's apart of hololive and they're still the "idol" company. It's one thing to express concern over her health, but like usual, people hyperfocus on it like possessive lovers who want to control every aspect of someone else's life. Radens definitely had some close calls, but now that she's gainfully employed, I think she'll try to get her act together at least a bit.

@madaggar9765

7 ай бұрын

People "browbeat" others over every vice, not just chemical addictions. Maybe one sticks out more to you than others, but it's pretty evenly spread aside from alcohol, which requires passing some imaginary line into alcoholism before that gets it too.

@ninjablade2

7 ай бұрын

There are several arguments over how much each individual can control their eating habits, due to genetics or upbringing, but smoking is something you are not predisposed to doing; meaning while many have moved away from brow beating over weight people and rather brow beating the companies pushing it, the smoking companies were literally brow beat into putting pictures of cancerous tumors, dead babies and all manner of other consequences onto the packaging they sell... so then it transfers to the individual, if you smoke you are not only knowingly declining your own health but potentially those around you as it's a gaseous form of cancerous substance Which is why people are brow beat over it, it's something that you not only don't need to do, it's either your decision or mistaken encounter with it that causes the addiction despite all the measures that people have painstakingly put into place to try to prevent people from starting Personally I grew up with both parents smoking, thankfully not inside the house or directly around us, and one of the two is already dead from throat cancer at 58, while the other has early onset of COPD (essentially where your lung capacity gets so bad you can no longer breath without assistance) and they are still smoking, even more heavily than they had been before the diagnosis... It's not a moral issue, it's just people fucking tired of watching people die for no reason as well as watching them suffer hack and cough before they go out for their next smoke

Manager be like, might as well try something new with this genre. Let’s roll with this heavy smoker, alcoholic and gamble addict at the same time idea and see where she takes us.

her laugh is fukin infectious, like a rusty hinge on a door that grew on you as the years go by

@javelin1423

7 ай бұрын

beautiful

Sounds like Cover has gotten their understanding of talent assistance sorted out properly now ❤

@whoiam06

7 ай бұрын

Wish another corpo could figure that out.

It's probably mentally/emotionally beneficial in the long term for a Vtuber to be open with their real selves to some degree. Playing too much and too deep into a character would be tiring over time I can imagine.

This is proof of how Cover has grown. Cannot imagine 2020 or even 2021 Cover would let her. All of those dramas, backlashes, and fucks up, Cover truly learnt from it and now they're the bonafide biggest Vtuber corpo in the world and by a wide wide margin.

Ah gyaru delinquent level to BOCCHI gang?

Glimpses like these actually show how far cover has come in such a short time. Mere years ago stuff just happened and they managed it afterwards or not. And now there is training, compliance, and experienced thought put into stuff like this beforehand. Sure there will still be misses, but it shows they have a handle on things❤

I'm happy that Cover allowed her to be herself without having to hide her habit. I mean imagine having the audience found out much later on by accident or something, the backlash would be pretty severe... So being opened and frank from the get go so that she can be accepted in the long run is much better. Still, in my honest opinion regards her smoking habit, I would love for her to quit, if only for her own health and especially her ability to sing, but I'm definitely not going to hound and berate her about it.

Is this what they meant by talent freedom? As in REAL talent freedom not Anarchy

The good things about hololive management, they can accept their talent bad habit and not trying to make them seems perfect.

im actually surprised that out of all the talent shes the only one that smokes, publically at least because you know jp and id as country have alot of smokers

@francescooley4068

7 ай бұрын

100% more than Raden smokes in Hololive, but it comes down to the stigma again.

@GwenWinterheart

7 ай бұрын

i feel like people who both sing and use their voices for long periods of time as part of their jobs are less likely to be smokers just out of practicality, right?

@araarashinigami

7 ай бұрын

Smoking in Asia is massive, and Japan especially even among the women. As far as I know Irys said and used to smoke but doesn’t anymore. Considering the number of openly weight conscious girls in Hololive, plus the average age of them all to be in the late 20s early 30s, I expect no less than half of them to be smokers.

She's an incredible find. Glad cover allowed her

Wait, what _are_ "the 3 big traits of a human trash"? I gather from context that smoking is one, but...

@yoh3146

7 ай бұрын

Smoking, drinking and gambling I think.

@minnelcandelario6893

7 ай бұрын

The other 2 is alcoholism and gambling addiction.

@ZGryphon

7 ай бұрын

Now I know! And knowing is half the battle.

There are still male managers? I thought they changed it to all females after the Mel incident?

@HololiveFanSince2019

3 ай бұрын

Henma's a guy IIRC

admitting to a "bad trait" is a good thing imo. it feels honest and makes a person more relatable and "real" instead of pretending to be perfect.

he? wow thats a new one, noice

Is the manager actually a “he”? I thought they stopped hiring male managers or am I remembering things wrong

Damn holos is more looks like paradise these day compare to nijis.

Cover's HR team is goated I tell you. Normally, a company would avoid hiring people with not one but all three 'vices'. But no, they see beyond the bad habits, and the potential of what she can do.

Raden is kind of based, in one stream I learned how to sneak alcohol in to sport events and received advice on life. Glad hololive allows their talents to express themselves rather than just be the typical idol

ive always been worried if she was fine with that info being out there but im glad that she fine with it

Problem child but successful.

What are the 3 big traits of human trash?

Lots of new members get male manager this time i noticed.

There’s always a first time.. glad she didn’t receive backlash

@LapisD

7 ай бұрын

She received some backlash in the beginning with people that wasn't happy with her smoking and they being worried that she would be a bad influence to their "favorite talents", but she promptly answered their right away and her fanbase protected her. So it stopped really quickly when they noticed that they wouldn't achieve anything

@velfare

7 ай бұрын

@@LapisD from where? 4chan?

@LapisD

7 ай бұрын

@@velfare yes, also some others places like the comments section of her streams and live chat too. She had to talk on stream about it and she asked them to stop and her fanbase became really protective, what also made those people go away

I still find it so funny that Raden got 100k subs first out of any member, she’s just so fun to watch because of her chaotic personality

Ironically problem child is always popular, cuz they have that crazy energy and people love to watch them. Although, there is a limit until it is too much, Raden is just perfectly under that limit. Also, does all hololive member get a different manager? While I do think some manager do eventually move away, and there is a dedicated one for the group. But if not, that's over 50+ managers...

@SilverScizor753

7 ай бұрын

Some managers manage multiple talents. I've long since lost track of who manages who with EN but I'm pretty sure Cover is always hiring

@dcresistance

7 ай бұрын

There's not a different manager for everyone, but now each new member has their own manager. The more senior managers are shifted to the new talents, and the newer ones go to members who have been there for longer

Raden is the perfect figurehead for Dev_Is. She’s entirely different than everyone else in Hololive and Dev_Is in that she’s not trying to be a character or a conventional vtuber steamer. She’s authentically herself, and her streams are her just telling stories about herself or the things that interest her. And that alone is enough to bring in the viewers.

Being upfront about it was a powermove. "Yeah, I smoke, big whoop, wanna cry about it?"

🇩🇰

So the management not only knew that we'd be cool with an idol with the most non-idol behavior, but they also knew we'd love her for it? Damn, management knows us a little too well.

It's so funny seeing people losing it because the clipper wrote "he", to talk about her manager. 1. As far as I can hear she didn't actually explicitely revealed her manager's genre here. It's just a random translation choice from mr clipper. 2. They do have male managers. Matsuri talked about having a male manager and that some other can accept to have one too, on stream AFTER the Mel incident. Everything you heard about "rules changed" is misunformation. It's just that the girls will never go out of their way to reveal that their manager is a man.

So she broke yagoo's dream even before debut

she is also another character that appeals to another specific demographic

Management expected Raden to received backlash before debut. But then, after all regloss members debut, she in fact became the leading in sub count and supachat. Truly unexpected outcome.

I can't wait til her model gets cigarette stink lines 👍

Im surprised hololive let her in, with all her bad habits but she has charisma and despite knowing all the money she gets is going into booze gambling and smoking you cant help but dote on her

@Hamlettte

7 ай бұрын

Because from looking at all their other hirings, Cover has mostly focused on finding talents and nurturing it rather than hiring people and making them maintain a marketable personality

@va8157

7 ай бұрын

All of her money is going into books tho lol

Management: See that man in the corner over there? Yagoo: Hai... Management: ...His dreams are already broken anyway, do whatever you want.

@whoiam06

7 ай бұрын

Yagoo: Naruhodo...

smoking stream when??

Is it gender neutral pronoun? As far as I know Hololive have female managers, but perhaps ReGloss also have males like Holostars JP have (or had?). I think Holostars EN has female managers since they share with Hololive EN

Probably it would be worse if she would be hiding her smoking habit, it would lead to speculations and it would lead to a Rushia-like situation

What is the signs or human trash?

the problem is that she will suffer sooner or later the consequenses... and her singin abilityes will decrease over time...