Malcolm Gladwell w/ Prof. Adam Grant: Authors@Wharton - Talking To Strangers

Wharton professor Adam Grant speaks with New York Times best-selling author Malcolm Gladwell at the Authors@Wharton Speaker Series: Talking To Strangers - hosted by the McNulty Leadership Program. Topics included success, intelligence, privilege and the fundamental nature of our human abilities. #WhartonAuthors #malcomgladwell #adamgrant #success #intelligence #leadership
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  • @christinenestor6424
    @christinenestor64243 жыл бұрын

    I loved this interview! Malcolm proves to be highly evolved with his communication style in that he stays so emotionally non reactive to Adam’s sarcastic provocations. It’s highly entertaining and also academic. Rarely anymore can we see truly thoughtful and diverse people having conversations and debate without heavy emotional reactivity! While many of us aren’t steeped in the knowledge or studies discussed, I was able to follow and understand the discussion. And it makes me want to delve more into these topics. loved!!

  • @keepcreationprocess

    @keepcreationprocess

    Жыл бұрын

    They are smart, Don t they

  • @danielc9483

    @danielc9483

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree completely-But I also believe that Gladwell’s communication style is so much more accessible than Grant’s, and this is because of his love for story telling. He has brought these studies to the general public rather than sit around with other smart people and banter back and forth til the cows come home. I’m fascinated by Grant’s jabs and concise academic summaries, but I think Malcolm proves that delivery and interpretation is more effective.

  • @think2086
    @think20864 жыл бұрын

    There are three kinds of Inconsistency: • Inconsistency that comes from a lack of Integrity (e.g. Pathological Liars). • Inconsistency that comes from an abundance of Integrity (e.g. Scientists incrementally updating knowledge). • Inconsistency that comes from the fact that almost all things in the Universe are a spectrum and rarely binary in nature (e.g. Quantum Mechanics, Nature).

  • @Whoeverheardof
    @Whoeverheardof4 жыл бұрын

    I love Malcolm’s podcast and books. I really enjoy the questions he poses and his theories. Adam is kind of obnoxious throughout this but it was interesting to see him challenge Malcolm and have Malcolm defend/explain his thoughts more throughly. So this was enjoyable and I like Malcolm even more now.

  • @TheUltrabulletholes

    @TheUltrabulletholes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Melissa S I like the guy , he is a thinker

  • @meks90

    @meks90

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Me too. I love me some Malcolm everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Talking to Strangers was so lit!!

  • @Misterz3r0

    @Misterz3r0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Calling Adam "kind of obnoxious" indicates a common misunderstanding women and sensitive individuals have about male camaraderie. Adam and Malcolm are actual friends and among most male relationships this sort of interaction is quite common. Its how males show affection. Its a form of "play." I don't blame you for not understanding because society often dismisses the notion of rich and complex male interrelationships and instead focuses solely on aggression but I would urge you to consider a book by Norah Vincent titled, "Self Made Man" to get some idea of men.

  • @jrpipik
    @jrpipik2 жыл бұрын

    Grant is really fast on his feet, but needlessly autocontrarian. You brought Gladwell in, let him tell his story.

  • @kevincurrie-knight3267

    @kevincurrie-knight3267

    2 жыл бұрын

    "We agree on this, so let's move on." That seems like a really poor interview strategy. I hate to say this, but as someone who has read two Adam Grant books and paid at least some attention to his rise to becoming a pop-science guy, he strikes me as having one overriding goal in his professional life: to prove to others (and maybe himself) that he really is the smartest guy in the room. I also get the sense that what he wants - sort of like Gladwell in this way - is to write whatever will make him seem the most contrarian in a way that convinces everyone that he must be smarter than the hard, and will gladly search only for the research that allows him to do that (never, of course, challenging THAT research in the process). This interview didn't do anything to convince me otherwise.

  • @keepcreationprocess

    @keepcreationprocess

    Жыл бұрын

    He comes often enough

  • @AmyPieterse

    @AmyPieterse

    5 ай бұрын

    yes, grant is interrupting a lot

  • @akshaysi
    @akshaysi4 жыл бұрын

    There is a history to these interviews. To truly enjoy them you need to check out Malcolm Interviewing Adam about Originals and their other interviews. They are probably two of the smartest men I have listened to and truly enjoy their intellectual sparring.

  • @kyfrmhardaway09

    @kyfrmhardaway09

    2 жыл бұрын

    If it'll make me appreciate some of Adam's comments that I found more annoying/sarcastic, I'll check it out.

  • @jackielynchstewart4745
    @jackielynchstewart47454 жыл бұрын

    This conversation was absolutely great. I just love Malcom Gladwell.

  • @michaelgyensare6387
    @michaelgyensare63874 жыл бұрын

    I think Malcolm is brilliant with his responses. Very spot on and articulate with the ideas in his book. I enjoy listening to him and will start reading his books now. Cheers Malcolm and Adam

  • @samuelhouston5076
    @samuelhouston50764 жыл бұрын

    The host is so proud of himself. good for him. Malcolm Gladwell is such a great speaker.

  • @kevincurrie-knight3267

    @kevincurrie-knight3267

    2 жыл бұрын

    Adam Grant is a pop scientist who apparently was the youngest tenured professor in the history of UPenn, a fact he never tires of reminding everyone every chance he gets. What's amazing to me is that he is a business professor who specializes in organizational psychology and teaching others about how to create good organizational environments. But does anyone really think that such a narcissistic and un-self-aware guy is the best person to give advice on that?

  • @angelocarloroxas8122
    @angelocarloroxas81223 жыл бұрын

    You need to chill, people. Grant and Malcolm are thinkers who love (and, interestingly and arguably, find it satisfying) to disagree and understand each others' perspective on certain things. It's very obvious in this interview and in another interview I've watched. Here, Grant explicitly pointed out that Malcolm wanted him to talk about topics where they have disagreements than just focusing on the book. No need to take it against Grant. The conversation was great!

  • @sa-iw4dr
    @sa-iw4dr4 жыл бұрын

    The world doesn't need more smart people we need more compassionate generous people!

  • @judyives1832

    @judyives1832

    4 жыл бұрын

    s a Why not both? Smart and compassionate!

  • @eaaronross

    @eaaronross

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@judyives1832 We spend years and years in school trying to "out smart" one another, but almost no time past preschool learning to be compassionate. In its current form, the whole idea of a "smart person" only exists in a hierarchy which requires everyone else to be beneath them. I agree with Gladwell on this, ideas like genius and IQ or other god given gifts and really over emphasized.

  • @kaushaltimilsina7727
    @kaushaltimilsina77274 жыл бұрын

    Such an interesting conversation to watch! The two look like childhood buddies, who do research on quite different things but Adam has (as the moderator), caught up with his friend's research and the two are having this fun conversational discussion, challenging each other intellectually on their beliefs and explore new stuff. This is quite similar to how I would catch up with my buddies.

  • @gmaureen
    @gmaureen3 жыл бұрын

    Loved these two...they made me think, they made me laugh...reminds me of all those friendly arguments of my youth.

  • @sa-iw4dr
    @sa-iw4dr4 жыл бұрын

    Malcolm is so smart with a good sense of humor topped with compassion. That's why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders!

  • @ase2201

    @ase2201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Huh?

  • @SuperVanlian
    @SuperVanlian4 жыл бұрын

    I am so grateful to be able to see a good KZread like this

  • @romlyn99
    @romlyn994 жыл бұрын

    I lived 22 years in Japan. I think I learnt a lot on the 5th year, the 7th year and the 12th year of living there. I had learnt enough by the 15th year and on the 18th year I decided to immigrate back to my country of birth... now I feel like an immigrant in my own country... I feel like the constant immigrant.

  • @paulbaker3144

    @paulbaker3144

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stephen Cotton emigrating twice was your choice was it not? Own your choices. I suppose that is what you are doing in your own way.

  • @romlyn99

    @romlyn99

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@paulbaker3144 my comment is just a reflection on the link between the mind and culture. Feeling like an immigrant has nothing to do with being born in another place. I was born in the country I currently live in and left at the age of 25 to return to it 22 years later. For the 22 years I was made to feel like an immigrant by the culture and the fact that I was a white man in a homogenius Japanese society... where by appearance everyone assumes I arrived yesterday and I would return to my own country next week - because foriegners don't stay long term... every day being asked by Japanese - where are you from - when did you come here - when are you going back to your own country? Not out of rudeness, hate or racism - but from the knowledge that Japan is for Japanese and everyone else is a visitor - the word for a foreigner in Japan is Gaikokujin or Gaijin which means - outside country person or outside person or outsider for short. Learning to deal with this constant reminder that I don't fit in - being turned down rental apartments because I was gaijin - people not sitting next to me on public transport - people moving seats when I sat next to them. I got married - had two children - but I was not allowed to join the PTA because I was gaijin... etc etc... constantly reminded that I was an outsider and would never fit in. I volunteered at the local ward office - doing volunteer work - the only gaijn in the whole of Tokyo being a part of the government run volunteer program. I became a minor celebrity - but the moment I stepped outside of Tokyo I was just a white man that had just arrived yesterday and would go back to my own country next week. So yeah I owned my experience - And unexpectedly returning to my country of birth - I am missing so much of my life in Japan and feel like I don't belong. Not because I look foriegn - but my mind is used to the Japanese way of thinking, the Japanese manners and the Japanese culture. So culture is not given to us by birth - it is something we learn - and the immigrant experience, is not just reserved to someone born in another country - coming to a different country - It can be experienced by someone who has lived long term in another country... and yes I am owning this too.

  • @9000ck

    @9000ck

    4 жыл бұрын

    Join the club. It's a big club. It's also a club filled with cosmopolitan minded people who will stimulate your mind.

  • @MrJefftib

    @MrJefftib

    4 жыл бұрын

    私も。。。おなじです。あと日本にまたかえります。おつかれしがんばりましょう

  • @yes0r787

    @yes0r787

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm an American who lived nearly 20 years in South Asia. I did my best to contribute to the community... but my racial & cultural difference made me stand out in every crowd and treated differently for better and worse. This was deeply painful at times. Then and now, I do my best to remember what an incredible gift and privilege it is to live in a different culture and gain in so many ways from the wider perspective and greater insights gained.

  • @alirezaamani2027
    @alirezaamani2027 Жыл бұрын

    A role model for an intelligent, intelligible, and appealing conversation.

  • @Beesmakelifegoo
    @Beesmakelifegoo2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliantly done. A good example for one to engage in conversations that offers a healthy exchange of ideas. With some playful humor. I loved it from beginning to end. Would have loved more. So entertaining and educational. Yes indeed refuges are facing despair. Thank you.

  • @lifeisbeautifulstill
    @lifeisbeautifulstill2 жыл бұрын

    This is so wonderful. I've listened many times. Two of my fav ppl.

  • @psychicspy
    @psychicspy2 жыл бұрын

    1:02:00. Value of student feedback. Loved the way Gladwell pivoted when Adam miss understood his question on the value of student feedback as being from a personal perspective when it was framed as from a research data perspective. He really saved the conversation from what would undoubtedly have been a fumbling re-centering.

  • @jennidean6656
    @jennidean66563 жыл бұрын

    This is brilliant! Absolutely love it 😍 Finally someone got Malcolm to be human and empathy his knowledge in a very funny way

  • @aminj6758
    @aminj67583 жыл бұрын

    My god Malcolm Gladwell is smart. He had such a great argument for comparing Harward university with a hedge fund.

  • @jzmcgriggs8652
    @jzmcgriggs8652 Жыл бұрын

    This was so refreshing. Reminds me of a young vibrant America.

  • @kevint2878
    @kevint28783 жыл бұрын

    Well, when I read Outliers, I got out of it that, there are a variety of factors that go into how successful we are, most not in our control. A lot of it is luck, genetics, circumstances.

  • @CribbsE
    @CribbsE2 жыл бұрын

    Two of the greatest thinkers of our time! I enjoyed both them here and as authors!

  • @TranelHawkins
    @TranelHawkins4 жыл бұрын

    Adam, your opinions are defined by your privilege up bringing. There are many intelligent people who have not seen success.

  • @brittanyw7546
    @brittanyw75464 жыл бұрын

    Love Malcom Gladwell❤ this interviewer however...

  • @nabsterash4162

    @nabsterash4162

    4 жыл бұрын

    Brittany Wilson please read his books. He’s as good as Gladwell, if not better. Start with Give and take. Amazing book!

  • @keepcreationprocess
    @keepcreationprocess Жыл бұрын

    Wow what an interesting conversation is this & this man

  • @9000ck
    @9000ck4 жыл бұрын

    'I just want some standardized something.' This is from a professor. I know it's partially in jest, but the problem Malcolm Gladwell raises about the need for speed in the LSAT should be well taken. What matters more; the quality of the reasoning process or the speed? Perhaps speed of thought follows from an educated high quality reasoning process and that the opposite does not in fact follow. We don't know because we have not tested this, ie, we haven't passed cohorts of law students who have been admitted on the basis of a test that tests quality of reasoning process irregardless of speed.

  • @Mateo-et3wl

    @Mateo-et3wl

    4 жыл бұрын

    *regardless

  • @laurajanecaporusso
    @laurajanecaporusso3 жыл бұрын

    These two need to take their act on the road. Their comedic timing is killer.

  • @binasharma7128
    @binasharma71282 жыл бұрын

    Agreed on the logic that we’re continually learning and improving our ways of thinking and making arguments

  • @think2086
    @think20864 жыл бұрын

    Dogs show A LOT of emotions, including complex desires, but humans rarely LOOK, in the same way parents rarely really LOOK at their kids faces, and thus why so many humans repress their expressions over time, but others, with attentive parents, might not. Some children, paradoxically do the opposite: amplify their expression and become MORE dramatic as a strategy to get the attention they are lacking. Divas, for example, represent an extreme version of this and can be created either from too much doting, or not enough attention in childhood. Children also watch adults carefully to figure out EVERYTHING, including how to express their feelings on their face. So we have these very complex social and cultural impacts. This is true for dogs as well. It's hard to tell what's genetic and what's just been passed on and on and on for a long time. Smiles on humans used to be "I'm anxious," and still do, probably most of the time. But they have also morphed into genuine delight as well. A similar, but slightly different variation of this morphing has been passed on to other primates as well, but less strongly. How much of that is genetic? How much of that is just learned? Babies definitely smile even more freely in response to joy than adults do, which is a shockingly strong effect I don't think exists in other primates. It's distinctly human. That's probably genetic, but how can you tell since smiling parents are more likely to have a smiling baby? The smiling baby might have seen their smile as THE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THEY EVER SAW after birth, thus combined with the strong instinct to imprint on parents, this triggers a particularly strong and vivid consciousness of the moment, followed by a particularly strong and vivid memory of it, which then trickles into all the other parts of their brain. (Which is why it is so crucial a mother is immediately handed her baby after birth so that the very first thing the child sees is her smile, and hopefully the smile of their father as well--it ends up impacting every thing else that develops in the brain afterward, as the brain develops like a fractal, building new concepts out of relating them to old ones. Smile to your baby as early and often as possible!) So it's really hard to tell if this human penchant for joy smiling is genetic or culturally developmentally. If there exists a single human tribe that doesn't joy smile, that would still not settle the issue, since humans are suspected of having a VERY RECENT set of SHARED COMMON ANCESTORS (some suggest as early as 500-3000 years ago, but I suspect it's more like 10,000). At any rate, humans all around the world are very very very very recent cousins, with very little genetic time having passed since divergence, and thus why we can all mate and produce hybrid vigor babies, mostly. If we had diverged further, our mixed babies would eventually pass a threshold where they were less viable, not more (speciation). We are SUPER RECENTLY related, and race is mostly an illusion, or rather severely hyperbolized compared to its actual state of divergence. At any rate, it's a mystery why we do so much of what we do. I suspect it's a hell of a lot less genetic for a wide range of species-specific traits than people realize, because of this imprinting aspect. I call this the *Imprint-Culture Bias* and I argue that it produces this illusion that things are more genetic than they are. It's a bias of which I believe we should become more aware in the sciences. Intelligence vs. Conscientiousness is, I believe, a perfect example of this bias. People keep saying, "intelligence is genetic," and "it predicts your success." I think this is mostly incorrect. Intelligence is developmental and involves nutrition, and the conscientiousness of the parents and social structure of the child. Humans that are conscientious have a higher chance of passing that onto their children through a combination of modeling conscientiousness, but perhaps more importantly, because they INTENTIONALLY MODEL OTHER QUALITIES more effectively as well, and have a great amount of APPLIED KNOWLEDGE in their parenting. An example is that parents who know that 10 hours of sleep is better than 8 by a large margin for the integration of knowledge are far more likely to raise successful children with healthier brains that stay healthier longer into life, thus creating higher intelligence and other success markers. They simultaneously have modeled this tradition to their children who then go on to become parents themselves and pass on the 10 hours sleep rule, instead of the 99% of the population that follows the 8 hour sleep rule. Since they are aware of such little "tricks for getting ahead in the world", and pass them on in the parenting style, it appears to be genetic, because *we wrongly assume inheritance = genetics.* This is why identical twin studies where the twins have been adopted out to different cultures are necessary, but I doubt we have big datasets for such subtle issues as these and adoptive parents tend to be more affluent and committed than average (especially when you consider how many people have kids almost by biological default). Long chains of inheritance of success traits can occur that APPEAR genetic, but don't have to be in your DNA, and probably mostly aren't. And Intelligence, most crucially, is probably largely limited by anxiety in people who would have been conscientious but are neurotic instead. It's harder to do well on an IQ test when you are distracted after all. And it's likewise difficult to go through life consistently performing well when you are frequently interrupted by distracting thoughts and emotions that come with neuroticism. So a great deal of human intelligence is LOST or BLOCKED by processes that might not block other areas of your life as much. A great example most American's can connect to is Post Traumatic Math Disorder. Most people think they "hate math" because they have been lead to believe that math is painful. That's clearly a product of our teaching, and it's a failure of imagination to think that there does not exist some optimized potential curriculum that is designed to make mathematics addictingly fun for a wider range of students. Of course there is! But it's not what we use (yet). Thus, for most brains, the avoidance of pain dictates that they do not develop mathematics circuits in the neural net. And so you get this effect that appears to be genetic intelligence, but indeed, it could INTERPLAY with real genetic factors. But that doesn't mean you can't break past it if you had a better developmental system. So for example, if we really wanted to, and were smart enough to figure out how, we could take a country that traditionally "isn't good at" some academic pursuit, and change that just by figuring out the rubik's cube of how we develop the children. And all of this is before we even consider Microbiotics, which are proving to have a greater affect on the development of minds than we previously would have guessed in our wild imagination. Your microbiome is largely dictated by sensual contact, a developmental issue, but one so strongly linked to your mother, that even with identical twins, we should be suspicious of what the bacteria and fungi are doing to trick us into thinking it's DNA. How many other similar factors have we not yet realized are happening that are not DNA based? and may even be alterable ?

  • @meks90
    @meks904 жыл бұрын

    Loud it Malcolm!! @ 26:40 Till all the HR professionals in the world hear it. They get paid tens of thousands to compare the universities people graduate from and then they pat themselves at the back of the head for a job well done but none of them can boldly say they will spot the next Steve Jobs if he walked into their interview room.

  • @sa-iw4dr

    @sa-iw4dr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Steve Jobs, was smart but he also wasn't nice! I can't say being smart will get us to where were going but smart and kind will further down a better road.

  • @meks90

    @meks90

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am just hinting at his creativity, his achievements and the fact that he is rightfully acclaimed as a visionary and contrasting it to his academic background and other stuff that look good on his CV. Talking about his kindness is bringing extra dimensions that spoils up the argument. What is kindness anyways? I feel moral consistency is a better way to judge human behaviour than some arbitrary term like kindness. What are the motives, are they fair, just and applied rationally to a reasonable extent across the board? Different situations demand different kinds of leadership and if you ask me, most successful leaders in his situation, at the edge of a new and volatile field that requires constant innovation and no rule book pretty much all have the same temperament ditto Bill Gates, Elon Musk and so.

  • @lafleurproductions
    @lafleurproductions4 жыл бұрын

    Having recently been involved in a lengthy trial, I would say that Malcolm Gladwell's idea of a test of physical stamina is a VERY good idea for lawyers, Very much enjoyed his ideas, The other guy was just tedious. Felt sorry for his students.

  • @JaneZhaozhaoandassociate
    @JaneZhaozhaoandassociate3 жыл бұрын

    A truly thought provoking, entertaining talk!! Malcolm is such a good speaker and Adam such a good host!! Thank you for putting this on!!

  • @cherryliang5117
    @cherryliang51174 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think I’ve learned anything. It’s just an enjoyment to see two smart people having a conversation

  • @DELL.ACNT.
    @DELL.ACNT.2 жыл бұрын

    Malcolm's such a good interviewer. He's so good, it's makes it lame when he's on the opposite role. Not him, but whoever is hosting him. Even if it's good, it just feels weak.

  • @romlyn99
    @romlyn994 жыл бұрын

    Understanding how the individual fits into the we and the real meaning of "We the people" - comes down to teaching civics. And making that a subject you get graded on at school would be very helpful. And sadly we don't have this... but for a reason... people with money and power don't want a society that understands civics and the mechanisms for changing institutions. They want a society that is distracted and fearful of change...

  • @paulbaker3144

    @paulbaker3144

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stephen Cotton people are generally deeply biased long before they step foot in civics class or arena. It could take many years of unlearning.

  • @sa-iw4dr

    @sa-iw4dr

    4 жыл бұрын

    To Stephen Cotton, not just civics one thing we don't learn or get taught in school "Values Clarification" a book; and Ethics! Why do we leave out teaching "Emotional Intelligence", if we remain robots and zombies we don't need all this stuff. By the way I saw a clip of Paul Mccartney at a protest about gun control gave me faith in humanity and the Beatles again.

  • @rajcan2008
    @rajcan20083 жыл бұрын

    These two guys should have a weekly one-hour talk show so that we can have best knowledge of cutting-edge psychology and human behavior. Two of today’s smart people!

  • @riohenry6382
    @riohenry6382 Жыл бұрын

    Malcolm should be interviewed by professor Jordan Peterson. I think they’d be surprised by how much they have in common. Of course you can’t be certain when you speak all the time. Sometimes you’re asking questions with your statements. That’s why we need free speech. To understand, we need to speak first

  • @pranavkardak2192
    @pranavkardak219211 ай бұрын

    Two high IQs speaking & making fun of each other. Malcolm is calm and articulative, Adam is direct & very fast. This is awesome.

  • @rayannphillip931
    @rayannphillip9314 жыл бұрын

    What??? Why is the interviewer making Gladwells books about him. Totally agree with Gladwell @ 1:01.

  • @talimn
    @talimn3 жыл бұрын

    This is so good.

  • @probusinessmaniq1488
    @probusinessmaniq14884 жыл бұрын

    Nice informative video

  • @yes0r787
    @yes0r7873 жыл бұрын

    Great discussion, thank you! Your conversation was a joy to spectate. As an interviewer Adam Grant was mostly right on the mark but fell into uncool snark and sarcasm a few times. It lessened the quality of your discussion and made Mr. Grant appear inferior.

  • @DrBoFitCare
    @DrBoFitCare2 жыл бұрын

    My quick slight correction #ummactually is folks have gotten Tommy John surgery to actually improve/enhance their performance… loved the back and forth!! Phenomenal interaction

  • @hteur1
    @hteur12 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the intelligence debate, how do we define intelligence, then how do we measure it? How many pupils fail at school while being very intelligent because of their backgrounds (or other reasons)? I am sure Malcolm overlooked the importance of intelligence, but focusing too much on intelligence (while it is so illusive) can end up in self-fulfilling prophecies. People are more obsessed with intelligence than with hard word work. Also, hard work alone is not enough, deliberate practice (not any practice) and relevant feedback are very important.

  • @dosesandmimoses
    @dosesandmimoses Жыл бұрын

    Great discussion

  • @cartersmith7628
    @cartersmith76282 жыл бұрын

    Is anyone familiar with the recently released book Everyone is an Einstein; and There is an Einstein in Everyone: The Constitution of Genius by author Benjamin Michael? It's a very compelling read!

  • @Jaigarful
    @Jaigarful Жыл бұрын

    1:03:00 Feedback is an interesting topic. From the gaming world, there's a lot of parallels between the two. People often give the wrong kindof feedback in the gaming world. They give proscriptive feedback rather than their actual experience. Instead of saying "I didn't understand where I needed to go at point X", they'll say "Devs need to add more markers for getting to point X". It sounds similar, but its a world apart.

  • @bossgandy
    @bossgandy4 жыл бұрын

    Grant sounds condescending throughout, I listened to his Podcast "WorkLife" but don't know why he comes across like this in this interview, it's a mystery

  • @hteur1

    @hteur1

    2 жыл бұрын

    there s another discussion where the roles are different; i think it's part of the game.

  • @Jinxs09
    @Jinxs09 Жыл бұрын

    Babysitter interaction is a generational thing. Kids of past generations did not need to be entertained constantly. Good natured and entertaining responses make this work.

  • @davidjohnthistle3614
    @davidjohnthistle36144 жыл бұрын

    BLINK is basically about the Alexander Technique.

  • @DJSTOEK
    @DJSTOEK2 жыл бұрын

    🖤

  • @Cathy-xi8cb
    @Cathy-xi8cb4 жыл бұрын

    Why does Gladwell find it so surprising that individuals become outraged with an individual's isolated behaviors but not complex social and governmental forces? Everyone is posting and responding to their own and other's individual actions. It is really difficult to look at a community's or a culture's problems when you are spending time posting your latest meal or reacting to another's comment.

  • @yes0r787

    @yes0r787

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, we cannot see the forest for the trees. But everything exists within it's context.

  • @etc6615
    @etc66154 жыл бұрын

    On the topic of MG’s dismissal of Jonathan Haidth on his dislike for political correctness and trigger warnings (and cancel culture)... MG does not get Jonathan Haith at all!!! As a mother of 4 young adults, while it is true that it is wonderful if Parents can inculcate ‘kindness’ by being concerned about other peoples feelings, CANCELLING people who ‘hurt’ your feelings is totally a different matter! MG totally misrepresented Jonathan Haidth’s point altogether. As a parent, many times being ‘kind’ means telling my kids things that WILL upset and maybe even HURT their feelings! Many times being ‘kind’ means i will have to say NO that will upset them. Being ‘kind’ should NOT be mistaken for being ‘nice’ all the time. This is the same with life. In the real world, your feelings does not matter at all! If your professors over trained their students to focus on their feelings rather than objective critical thinking, these overly ‘nice’ focused professors will deter the maturity of these students! Though i love a lot of MG’s work, this point is definitely NOT well thought out. I hope MG will discuss this issue further hopefully with Jonathan Haidth so that MG can at the very least properly steel man JH’s arguments.

  • @eaaronross
    @eaaronross3 жыл бұрын

    As an alumni of Penn, I would like to politely request this host never be allowed on the internet in video form again. Although he does finally settle down the longer the interview goes on.

  • @danayello9000
    @danayello90002 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way to mute Grant??

  • @helenmurray3276

    @helenmurray3276

    Жыл бұрын

    Wtf is Grant's problem? I'm cringing so bad. Glad we'll handled it with a lot of grace.

  • @lizkeith1356
    @lizkeith13564 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the interviewer has the best technique to get the best out of Malcolm. I was uncomfortable for Malcolm.

  • @AM-or5mi

    @AM-or5mi

    4 жыл бұрын

    True. But to be honest, Malcolm often makes others he interviews even more uncomfortable so I don't feel bad for him. It just sucks for the audience because Adam (interviewer) seems to just want to disagree and best Malcolm that it makes it difficult to watch.

  • @therealjayz8036

    @therealjayz8036

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AM-or5mi Adam Grant is an incredibly accomplished individual as well. You should read his book “Originals”

  • @Camperlife4ever
    @Camperlife4ever4 жыл бұрын

    To Adam's first point about how Malcolm contradicts himself. David vs Goliath is the opposite of Outliers. Outliers is about cumulative advantage and DvsG is about cumulative disadvantage. This guy is a professor a fucking Ivy League school and this is how he starts the conversation? My response would be read Tipping Point, advantage accumulates to a point and progress is made up to a point where it tips and becomes a disadvantage.

  • @Bak2BasiKs
    @Bak2BasiKs3 жыл бұрын

    Only in America are there legacy given for a leg up for admission?

  • @davidalexanderbrown502
    @davidalexanderbrown5023 жыл бұрын

    Malcolm gladwell, Your conversations are very interesting, and I take such pleasure in listening to your point of view. I have a question for you, what are your thoughts on reparations for African Americans for institutionalized slavery? What are your feelings on the effects of using terms like white and black to describe people of ethnicity in a multicultural multi-ethnic world? Is there enough evidence to prove that racial unrest in America can be linked directly back to institutionalized slavery. not only that it's linked back to institutionalized slavery, but the effects of institutionalized slavery not only gave birth to Jim Crow black exploitation and much of the racial divide that is taking place today, but, incidence like George Floyd, who interestingly enough was abused by officers that consisted of a multi-racial group, is due mostly because the effects of institutionalized slavery was never effectively dealt with in America. Is the paradigm of "victim and predator" wrong? Are we all victims of the disease of racial superiority? People become outraged because of racial inconsistencies that took place 20-30 years ago. Even monuments of the Civil War are under attack in some states. Could this be a form of post traumatic stress and if so could it be directly linked to the institution of slavery and the disease of racial superiority in America? There is a large group of individuals in the African-American community that are suffering from color racism; I can't think to call it anything else except interracial discrimination. These are light skin and dark skin Americans that are being discriminated against because they're not "light" enough or "dark" enough within their selected communities. can it be said, that America was brainwashed by The practice of racial superiority, implemented because of institutionalized slavery - is that enough justification for reparations? Reparations, should not just be about a monetary settlement, but, a comprehensive look at our history and a holistic approach to healing. In conclusion, I wonder if you've done any research on this subject and I wonder would you be willing to speak publicly concerning it. Thank you for illuminating my mind and giving me interesting and positive things to challenge my thinking.

  • @crimony3054
    @crimony30542 жыл бұрын

    Gladwell trashed Havard for not admitting based on the SAT score, then he denounced the LSAT for being timed, and then the host said there was an advantage to being able to think on one's feet, and yet the host couldn't slam Gladwell on his standardized test contradiction.

  • @tshenolotermomotlhagodi2799
    @tshenolotermomotlhagodi27992 жыл бұрын

    imagine after buying the book reading half of it... then you hear that its a better experience in your preferred medium...

  • @niamhwarren7324
    @niamhwarren73243 жыл бұрын

    I don’t get the negative comments about the interviewer myself. Just seems to me like a friendly academic debate between two people who know each other. I really enjoyed it

  • @flipstr2
    @flipstr24 жыл бұрын

    interviewer ruined my experience...smh,hush Adam

  • @robertalenrichter
    @robertalenrichter4 жыл бұрын

    Dogs show curiosity by raising their ears and tilting their heads. This is well-known.

  • @russellringland1399

    @russellringland1399

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are strangers to cat people. And that's annoying to cat people.

  • @jct8007
    @jct80074 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Adam is a bit obnoxious, asked some good questions but other comments/questions did not contribute and detracted from the conversation.

  • @deadeaded

    @deadeaded

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure Adam and Malcolm are friends. What may seem like obnoxious questions to us might be friendly ribbing to them.

  • @danallyn7

    @danallyn7

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very obnoxious. His favorite response is Why? Give me a break. He's going to make his case about Malcolm's book FIRST. What a guy. Sheesh

  • @jackieschweitzer9549

    @jackieschweitzer9549

    3 жыл бұрын

    New to malcolm gladwell's world I'm very excited and impressed

  • @jesuish6109
    @jesuish61093 жыл бұрын

    Marvelous to watch Malcolm handle this guy like a child’s toy.

  • @brainsareus
    @brainsareus4 жыл бұрын

    Actually, not a few, post-Tommy John pitchers; have come back stronger after surgery; not just, the same, Mr. Interviewer.

  • @sammavacaist
    @sammavacaist3 жыл бұрын

    The hard working person of average intelligence won't go as far as the lazy genius if the genius does the bare minimum of thinking. They will go much farther than a lazy person of average intelligence of course.

  • @gb4375
    @gb43754 жыл бұрын

    Intelligence and “The Talent Code”....grit can outweigh intelligence

  • @vpaczkowski

    @vpaczkowski

    3 жыл бұрын

    The best doctors don't always get the best grades. A lot of smart people get into medical practices because of the pay grade instead of a desire to heal people.

  • @davidanderson9664
    @davidanderson96644 жыл бұрын

    Malcolm is right on with the LSAT. So is Adam in the speed of processing issue, its more important than running. :-) elsewhere Adam is a tad arrogant. Part of real success is modesty. D.A., J.D., NYC

  • @Bak2BasiKs

    @Bak2BasiKs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not going to lie the last sentence had me laughing + qualf signoff

  • @lille-mary1517
    @lille-mary15174 жыл бұрын

    This was not an easy flowing interview to get through for me. I got the vibe that this Adam dude was sort of out to be a bit cleverly rude and questioning from the get go. Kind of disrespectful in an underhanded way. Or I perhaps just misread him totally.

  • @Arielb6

    @Arielb6

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lille-Mary I’m pretty sure they are just bantering.

  • @midgicegg874

    @midgicegg874

    4 жыл бұрын

    At first, I kind of had a similar feeling as Lille-Mary. However, I think this comes from the fact that they are friends and, as Ariel Ashcraft suggests, they are just bantering in the way that friends can do.

  • @daddy-odestiny301

    @daddy-odestiny301

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got that too but think that they have some sort of agreement that Adam will play devil's advocate

  • @Misterz3r0

    @Misterz3r0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you misread him. Adam and Malcolm are friends and this is how some males show affection for each other and is quite common. In addition, Adam is doing Malcolm a favor by posing questions in this fashion. Malcolm is not an academic, he's a journalist, so there are some in academia that hold contempt for those that "popularize" ideas. I personally feel that sort of attitude reeks of intellectual snobbery to some extent but there is also a legitimate reason for academics to distrust "popularizers" like Malcolm. Oftentimes for the sake of communicating with a mass audience, non-academic and even academic writers will leave out context, nuance, and details for the sake of a degree of simplification that academics would consider truncation. This ends up leading to what they believe is further public misunderstanding of concepts and to some extent de-legitimizes the hard work the original researchers put into trying to understand a idea accurately. Malcolm has been accused of misrepresenting ideas in the past by academics and critics, or for over-simplifying concepts to the point of inaccuracy, but he has addressed these criticisms. Adam is an actual academic and it is not uncommon for academics to challenge each other in this manner even if they agree with one another because its a form of exploration and testing. To most everyday people it comes across as rude and arrogant, and perhaps there may be an undercurrent of that in some situations, but it requires both parties to assume the other party is making a sincere attempt to challenge the other's ideas for the sake of the pursuit of knowledge. In this case it appears that Adam is anticipating what challenges Malcolm will have to face by others who aren't friends of his and he is attempting to "steel man" Malcolm's responses. And at certain points Adam is just being a "dick" for entertainment purposes because that's how males bond.

  • @toomuchinformation

    @toomuchinformation

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Misterz3r0 Illuminating post. Thanks.

  • @gilbertblankenship6481
    @gilbertblankenship64812 жыл бұрын

    Interviewer is kind of rude..but in a polite way.

  • @user-te7zz8mv3x
    @user-te7zz8mv3x2 жыл бұрын

    I love this … Harvard is hedge fund with an education unit 🤣

  • @Mrlimabean01
    @Mrlimabean014 жыл бұрын

    The idea that only "white men in their 50s" are chafing at the political and epistemic conformity - and duplicity- of the growing culture on many college campuses is deridable. For what it's worth, myself and many of my classmates going to school in California feel that Haidt has some excellent points and really doesn't go far enough. Send Malcom my way; I could teach him a thing or two.

  • @TheUltrabulletholes

    @TheUltrabulletholes

    4 жыл бұрын

    K thinks that goodwin or whatever his name is is very interesting and makes some really good points. I’d like to talk with him.

  • @ShannonWare
    @ShannonWare2 жыл бұрын

    @41:25 "I went to University of Toronto where my GPA was a function of my reading and thinking skills" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • @maverik15j
    @maverik15j4 жыл бұрын

    These two are a more pleasant and fun version of Buckley/Vidal.

  • @arhabersham
    @arhabersham4 жыл бұрын

    1:22:46 It seems like Gladwell have never been forced/shamed for using “the wrong pronoun” or spend time around college students who are deeply immersed in PC culture. He does not seem aware of the extent of problem

  • @greggklawon1971
    @greggklawon19714 жыл бұрын

    Adam sounds so similar to Sean Evans. The you tuber that hosts “Hot Ones”.

  • @killagee13

    @killagee13

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gregg Klawon nah

  • @TranelHawkins
    @TranelHawkins4 жыл бұрын

    Smart you are? Really? Intelligence is not measured equally. How do we learn if we are determining outcomes based on perceived intelligence.

  • @haebyong47
    @haebyong474 жыл бұрын

    What strange person would actually want to interact with their baby sitter? It seems so odd. The age disparity would preclude that. It’s a baby sitter, not a nanny.....

  • @sammavacaist
    @sammavacaist3 жыл бұрын

    Why would you think that someone upset about black face would not also be very upset about voter supression? It's all the same issue: racism

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc944 жыл бұрын

    *1:04:01** or students by GPA*

  • @boydhooper4080
    @boydhooper40802 жыл бұрын

    The fact that virtually all of Gladwell‘s ideas have been debunked or seriously questioned brings the point that we need to make decisions on whether we want good stories or good science. Case in point here is that Gladwell has good stories and Grant has good science. Gladwell largely tells us a good story without regard for how true that story is. You should file his work in the fiction section of your bookshelf

  • @KemptonLam
    @KemptonLam4 жыл бұрын

    1:16 "Consistency is surely the lamest of all human virtues." - Gladwell

  • @brainsareus

    @brainsareus

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think it depends on context, and degree.

  • @KemptonLam

    @KemptonLam

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@brainsareus Of course. On complex subject matters where our knowledge and insights can grow in time, those are the cases where consistency is lame. For those cases or context that involve human decency, country before petty politics, etc then on those cases we do want consistency.

  • @brainsareus
    @brainsareus4 жыл бұрын

    Here is a contradiction; that I have most perfectly, reconciled, within the confines of my skull... .......................The Interviewer is, a perfectly unfunny/clown.

  • @etc6615
    @etc66154 жыл бұрын

    The interviewer had a very point. IQ is one of THE biggest predictor of future success. It CAN be misleading for MG to disregard IQ altogether. MG should have qualified that his focus on “consciousness” as more important than IQ, is primarily for those who are in the ‘same’ range of IQ for the personality trait ‘conscientiousness’ to matter. Ex his roster of applicants are all ‘qualified’ ENOUGH but MQ is looking for the EXTRA quality of conscientiousness and perseverance to get the best applicant for him. Therefore, there are a whole lot of people who will NOT even qualify to be an applicant at all. That i think is the pount of the interviewer.

  • @jamesclark6142
    @jamesclark61424 жыл бұрын

    Adam Grant... He's not the best interviewer is he... He seems kind of out of depth next to Gladwell. He reverts quite a bit to a passive aggressiveness that he seems to think is witty... It's like he's chasing Gladwell around the stage like an arrogant 7th grade boy telling his teacher how much more he knows than everybody else in the room. That said I loved "Originals," but still, he's kind of disappointing...

  • @verysmarrname

    @verysmarrname

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually this is the first interview where someone call on the bullshit avoidence of questions from gladwell. For someone who loves to be wrong and embrace new views, gladwell makes a great effort to defend his (temporary) views

  • @robertalenrichter
    @robertalenrichter4 жыл бұрын

    I like Gladwell, but on the issue of PC he's simply emotionally beclouded. What an extraordinarily superficial dismissal of the subject. He says that it's important for us to pay heed to other people's feelings -- except for white men over fifty, I guess. But his statement about structure being more important than anecdotes unwittingly leads us into something that he obviously doesn't want to think through.

  • @yes0r787

    @yes0r787

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are interdependent and both are clearly impoimportant.

  • @mleolahi80
    @mleolahi804 жыл бұрын

    Lasted 3 minutes. The interviewer 🤦🏽‍♀️ Sorry Malcolm.

  • @FoodPornLover
    @FoodPornLover2 жыл бұрын

    What first seemed like a real treat of a meeting between two great minds, quickly became a cringe fest of disagreeable low self-confidence vs. badgered, defensive interviewee that resulted in passive-aggressive, brute answers to jab at each other. If they're actually friends, they show little respect in this process, cutting the other's sentences and thoughts, being aggravated to defend their own stance. Just (the body language is already) brutal to watch. Excessive video games may have seriously jeopardized Adam's social skills development. If he can't develop his EQ to be a decent interviewer, someone with a strong demeanor should babysit him until he has another TedTalk.

  • @Nivlacattack
    @Nivlacattack2 жыл бұрын

    Adam grant annoy anyone else?

  • @michealcollins7709
    @michealcollins77092 жыл бұрын

    Is this an interview or a debate? Lol

  • @etc6615
    @etc66154 жыл бұрын

    On the topic of ILLEGAL Immigration and Justin Trudeau... 1) it is really quite disappointing to hear from MG a relatively ‘rich’ man who is NOT at all negatively affected by ILLEGAL Immigration like much of the ‘poor’ tax paying Citizens whose livelihoods and peace and order are very much negatively affected by ‘unsavoury’ illegal Immigrants. MG doesn’t realise how pompous and hypocritical he sounds that to be ‘nice’ to the admittedly needy illegal immigrants, he is willing for ‘the government’ ( not him personally) to accept with open arms these illegals AT THE EXPENSE of those tax paying citizens who will most be negatively affected by them. It is infuriating for MG as well as rich Hollywood, CNN MNSBC types to preach about the morality of borders while they lock up their doors every night. The doors 🚪 in our home are our actual BORDERS in a smaller unit of society. It is almost expected from the proponents of borderless society who are intellectually dishonest by locking their doors at night and not opening their homes to the needy. I am sorry for my rant, i was just very much disappointed hearing this from someone whose work i like. I truly hope he will be open enough to have an honest discussion with those who does not agree with him. 2) on the topic of justin trudeau, oh my. Where do i even start?! !

  • @bopeep5662
    @bopeep56623 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to enjoy this and learn. I live for food-for-thought. However, they EACH turned it to a game of one upmanship. So it was a waste of my time.

  • @Klara563
    @Klara5634 жыл бұрын

    Adam, you need to grow up.

  • @MatthewTafoya

    @MatthewTafoya

    3 жыл бұрын

    Adam reflects badly on Penn

  • @TeaParty1776
    @TeaParty177610 ай бұрын

    The Law of Identity (A is A) is a rational man’s paramount consideration in the process of determining his interests. He knows that the contradictory is the impossible, that a contradiction cannot be achieved in reality and that the attempt to achieve it can lead only to disaster and destruction. Therefore, he does not permit himself to hold contradictory values, to pursue contradictory goals, or to imagine that the pursuit of a contradiction can ever be to his interest. - Ayn Rand Gladwell is stupid and evil.

  • @stevensantos3398
    @stevensantos33982 жыл бұрын

    When Macon asks, “what is the last story in blink?” And Adam answers as if this was a 3rd grade spelling bee.... That followed shortly by Darwin studying apes when developing his opinion of our facial expressions..... it is said with such arrogance and sarcasm. And that is complete horseshit. The whole time Malcolm is talking, Adam is silly, looking for the next moment to input some sarcastic remark and it’s painfully obvious. On top of this when it is Adams time to take center stage and allows as much time as he needs to develop and ask his question. Malcom does his best to answer the question being answered and develop Adams point further. And Adams the host?

  • @gjswilson
    @gjswilson4 жыл бұрын

    two things: disappointed to hear the phrase "off the reservation" come out of malcolm gladwell's mouth. does he understand what it means to first nations people, he might as well have said "off the plantation" referring to black people. regarding justin trudeau, sure it was stupid to paint his face brown, but to "brown people" it was an interesting insight into trudeau's mindset. justin trudeau betrayed his sense of privilege and superiority which will eventually manifest itself in how he governs.

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