Fantastic. Thanks a lot for following up with this test, really appreciate it.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

cheers

@epiiryana5393

Жыл бұрын

suhggn rugaion npdsng rjbnpena natgc nifnbn rufnadn😅😅😅

Lovin the Makita stuff as always guys. Rreally enjoyed. Thumbs up

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

chers Ryan

Great video boys. Really appreciate you putting the 40v through the exact same tests. As a carpenter i am totally sold on makita 40v. Took them way to long to release them but well worth the wait i think.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

thanks Phil, good to hear.

@baseballdude8491

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah good tools but they should have made the 40V batteries backwards compatible with the 18V like Hikoki did with it's 36V tools, because of this I have been slow at adding new 40V tools and will only be buying tools that I don't have in Makita 18V, Hikoki and Milwaukee

@robertrada4783

2 жыл бұрын

@@baseballdude8491 Do you have the 1-9/16” / 40mm SDS Max, by any chance? The price is nice.

@baseballdude8491

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertrada4783 yes it's a beast and we use the AC adapter quite a bit for larger/longer jobs Having the the battery option is good for short work or where we have no power-but over 50% of our work is with AC power-Metabo HPT/Hikoki is the only company making durable pro tools that can do both and have gained my business and loyalty over the last 3+ yrs I have always used their nailers and fasteners- for the last 25+yrs as well and have framing nailers that will not die

@robertrada4783

2 жыл бұрын

@@baseballdude8491 Good to hear. It’s in the running. I don’t feel like spending a grand on something I’m going to use four times a year. And those times will be cordless, so rental is normally out of the question.

Love the review boys been slowly moving over to the 40v stuff after I bought the drop saw and I think Thai drill will be my next buy

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

nice Elliot :D

Great video keep them coming

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

cheers

Great review! Thank you. 👍

@OZToolTalk

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Just dropped 15k on xgt gear. Only opening each tool as i need it. Its like a birthday present every other day. Loving the tools

@OZToolTalk

11 күн бұрын

That is awesome!

Thanks guys. Please do the Hikoki 36v recip saw against the new Makita XGT recip. Cheers

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

good idea!

Very good, unbiased review. I like it.

@OZToolTalk

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

For electrical rough in, we use milluakee 18v but im interested in if the Makita 40v is significantly superior

Great video boys

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Thanks guys this will help me decide my future purchase as between the two packages the 40V vs the 18V is nearly $600 difference at Total Tools

Great vid. Xgt drill vs Milwaukee gen 3 hammer drill. And use the biggest batteries u can get for each.

Hi Guys, Awesome video as usual 😁 👍👍 and a nice follow up to the large shootout you uploaded a few days before this one. I think that 25-30% difference you mentioned is probably just down to the speed of the drill. As drill speed increases torque decreases - the power is either devoted to spinning the drill faster (higher speed and lower torque) or producing more torque (lower speed and higher torque). This is easily witnessed on high torque jobs like putting down big screws for the drill where you have to drop back down to speed one to push the screw down so it isn't standing proud or having the drill cut out on electronic protection. You have noted that torque figures are very similar however, Power = Torque x RPM. The RPM in both speeds of the drill are higher for the 40v drill 650 vs 550 in speed 1 (18% faster) and 2600 vs 2100 rpm in speed 2 (24% faster). So, with the figures being essentially the same but the speed being around 18-24% faster in both speed you can surmise that Power is will be 18-24% higher as you had noted in this test. The drill is able to provide the same torque (same power needed) but at a higher rpm (more power needed for higher rpm) hence overall power of the 40v drill is higher. This is a simplified explanation as drills won't provide that max torque at the maximum speed in the gears but it should clear up any confusion as to why there was so much difference in the drills; despite torque figures being similar RPM figures were not. Also, as a follow up to make this shootout even bigger, it would be nice to see how the cheapies (Ryobi and Ozito drills) perform in the same test relative to the other drills seeing as you guys in Australia. Fancy a trip to your local Bunnings fellas? 🙏👍😁 Keep up the good work and I'm a massive fan of your shootouts - very controlled and relative. 👍👌👌

@arnoldwiggins

Жыл бұрын

Would love to see comparison of LXT and XGT to the Ozito and Ryobi. Would absolutely pay to see that!

Semangat update nya bos

Great video, love Makita. Could you compare the 40v to the Milwaukee Fuel hammer drill?

Great review guys. Like most, I'm agonising about committing to the 40v batteries. It helps heaps to see which tools outperform the 18s. Weights a big thing though. Would be keen to see some more battery garden tool stuff, particularly if there is a brushcutter that can take blades for blackberries etc. Cheers PP

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

cheers fella :)

@ashtonlowe6761

2 жыл бұрын

There are no 18v makita tools that outperform the 40v equivalent if you like makita step up to 40v you won't be disappointed

@kizzjd9578

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with regards to weight. I hate that they are getting heavier and larger . Should be the other way around.

Hikoki 36V on the docket soon? It's super powerful and has been out over 3+ yrs

That's pretty epic bit'o'kit right there. Have you done 18V Bradders yet? I cop a lot of flack from having one instead of a 'proper' compressor or Pasi but I love the freaking thing. They might be a bit simple, wouldn't make a long video :P

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

no we haven't Fixit. cheers

For the people that may be interested, a proper side by side comparison of the various dual 18v battery, steel deck lawn mowers. I know there cant be a totally apples to apples compairison given at least one company has steel decks in both non propelled and self propelled. It's just me wanting to see how team red, team blue, team green and NFI compare and rate.

I got through 2 of the last gen makita drills didn't last as long as I thought they would think drywall dust got them both I'm after switching to metabo after watching your comparison video 👍 arrives this week couldn't get into the xgt range in Ireland €600 for drill and one 2.5ah

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

interesting feedback! thanks for letting us know. I think you'll love the Metabo.

Hey cool video, was just wondering do they have various levels of drills in the range? I am running a DHP481Z 18V at the moment which was top of the 18v variety is it the same with the 40V or the one you tested?

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

hi Baxter. The 40V model is the only hammer drill in the range I believe, and is definitely the premium model. The 486 is the direct replacement of your premium 481

Great video. Will you please to a comparison between the 40v and Flex's top drill?

@OZToolTalk

3 ай бұрын

Sorry we've hung up the boots for now

You two are real rippers, mates! 👍👍👍✌🏻🇦🇺🇺🇸😃

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

hehe cheers mate

Awesome vid as always boys. I love my Makita gear and have pretty much all Makita tools and have decided to bite the bullet and go the 40V. I purhased the 40V angle grinder a few months ago and absolutely love it, it's such a beast of a machine, Iv'e even managed to convert a few tradies who were just blown away by it. I was so happy with it I bought the 40V sliding compound mitre saw and it too is a beast and I love it. Next will be the drills, just got to wait until the wifes in an amazingly good mood, or prepare to go through life minus testes.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

haha, thanks for the (over)share Sean ;)

Don't forget the Hikok 36Vi-it will be even more pronounced of a difference Nice review thanks for doing it

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

yeah we have thought the same thing (that the multivolt unit needs some attention too).

Is that really how you talk normally? Amazing

Appreciate the video. Disappointed with the AFT kickback. I just ordered the DF001GZ (AFT rotary hammer) but now I feel like cancelling it and getting the cheaper HR003GZ (w/o AFT). I'd really appreciate your thoughts because I can't find info on it.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

I used a friends LXT drill the other day and the kickback feature was working great! Not sure why our review model didn't....

@nelsoncarpentry

2 жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk Thanks for that info. 👍🏻

Legends, cheers for the video boys. Sorry for the abuse haha!

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

haha cheers Adam

Using a tool with either 40v or 56v battery sure makes doing things easier. Price is the only thing making them less used.

thanks

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome

I wanna see the 40V right angle drill up against the Milwaukee Super Hawg!

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

who wouldn't?

Great video! I'm in a little bit of a pickle, would love to upgrade but I've got about 15 makita 18v tools all under about 2 years old. which has also forced me to stop buying any 18v that I need because I don't want to waste anymore money on 18v. Do you think some sort of Buy back/trade in and upgrade to 40v would ever be on the cards from Makita or tool stores? (They wouldnt have much use for my used 18v tools tho I guess so I might of answered my own question.) :)

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ello. 18V is still an awesome platform. I'd just stick with it and enjoy them.

@TacticalThib

Жыл бұрын

You will not regret going to the XGT

Good review thanks guys.Kickback control Germany tool make the better job. XGT is new range for makita so I am rather than wait few mote years until my 18v batteries died then change new line. By the way 18v makita drill and impact driver price is excellent with additional one free 5ah battery. Very good valve. 👍

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

cheers William.

I noticed that during the masonry drilling test at 2:11, the XGT unit's drill bit and tape were moving counter clockwise so it's opposed to drill quickly. I might be wrong though.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

opposed to drill quickly? I suspect that the perception of spinning in reverse is just to do with the RPM the same way wheels can appear to do that in the car next to you.

ADVICE NEEDED: Looking to get on the Makita platform and having trouble deciding 18V or 40V series. I'm a casual home user (not commercial/professional). Looking to get an impact driver, hammer drill, string trimmer, hedge trimmer, chainsaw and probably a circular saw and reciprocating saw. Any recommendations/advice? Does the weight of the batteries make a big difference? Do you see 18V getting phased out? Do you really get better tools and more power in the XGT series? Thanks for your help!

@miguelp4812

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see 18v getting phased out and in your case 18v is maybe a better choice. 40v is especially useful however for higher draw applications such as circular saw and chainsaw etc... just one guys opinion based on what I've seen.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

I would definitely steer you towards 18V. Absolutely no need to go 40V, and 18V is around for many many years to come.

@aussiegruber86

2 жыл бұрын

ryobi for the home owner, 6 year warranty

@KuzConstrution

9 ай бұрын

18v is definitely the best choice for home owner if u do end up needing a more powerful saw they have the 2x18v saws

In terms of comparisons. Surely time for a beyond 18v grinder test! Also when the makits 40v router comes out it must be time for a router showdown.

@non-woodsmanuk

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5errKSaoNnFk84.html poke around here

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

probably. but grinder comparisons suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... :/

@philwort1873

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah im sure they suck to do! Perhaps a good winter project. You know we want you to! 😉😉

@THE-HOLY-SPIRIT

Жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk the vacuums do 😃

Test the LXT 5ah vs 6ah. Light, medium and heavy loads. I want to see if there's a noticeable difference.

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

Also try XGT 2.5ah vs 4ah. Tools & Stuff found that the 2.5ah slightly outperformed the 4ah. I'm wondering if his 4ah is a bit funny (e.g. temp sensor is measuring too high and reducing power too early).

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

that's super weird. either gotta be a faulty battery or a major blunder by Makita.

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk Super weird. Which is why I want someone else to test it to see if he just has funny batteries.

Let's be honest the 40v has the most grunt and more features its the winner of the drill comparison I would take it anyday over the metabo

@danabenjamin3300

2 жыл бұрын

Let's be honest,they weren't going to let makita win lol

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

@@danabenjamin3300 what? we absolutely would have said if it won the comparison scoring by our weighted system. Given that is was within 0.1 of the top score, it's pretty much there anyway. If it had of had a good anti-rotation kickback, it would have won by 1.9 points.

@danabenjamin3300

2 жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk i said lol so I was just joking around but it seemed you were leaning towards metabo regardless and the anti-kickback test seemed a bit picky.you should do the same with the metabos...I agree with ashton lowes comment. Thanks for the info on metabo having a new hammer drill coming next year I hadn't heard that...

Sorry for the bother but I dont know where to ask this but do you guys think you will review battery powered augers/ post hole diggers?

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

On our Instagram channel I think you'll see the AEG 58V post hole auger appear at some point :)

def happy i went with the 18v as a plumber due it being lighter but if you are doing construction and wood working the 40v is def the choice

@tombone00

Жыл бұрын

Specs show them both (lxt and xgt hammer drills) at 6 lbs, no?

I’ve owned both for almost a year now and would tell anyone that they’re the same in performance and the differences lie in the overall size and features like the electronic clutch. Holy moly have I been wrong. 😂

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

haha yeah, there definitely a bit of a difference :)

@permagnusandersson6052

2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand.. If you have owned them both for such a long time, why have you only now, after watching a video, realized the 40V is more better than you'd thought??

@robertrada4783

2 жыл бұрын

@@permagnusandersson6052 I’ve never used them next to each other. I certainly don’t make shoot out videos. They both drill a hole before you have time to blink.

@permagnusandersson6052

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertrada4783 But I still can't understand. You tell people things about the drill you just assume but you aren't sure about. Seems not cool but who am I to gudge...

35 Degrees ! you should try the UK. 4 degrees and lashing it down with rain - swop yer boys. Good tool test by the way.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

haha, I'd take 4 degrees over 35 some times! ;)

Maybe after the new Milwaukee impact is released it might be time to do another impact showdown

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

mmm I think you're probably right.

So a speeling bee coming up soon? hahaha..... I prefer the 18V personally as said and I'm also old school and I'll stick with my 18V drills. What about an AEG and Makita 18V comparison? as I have both and would love to see what you both say.. thanks.

That XGT really needs a speed adjustment in drill mode! There's already a knob there. It would greatly prolong bit life when using hole saws or drills in steel.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be great.

@aconinja8668

2 жыл бұрын

Wait for version 2.0

@timmortimer8469

2 жыл бұрын

@@aconinja8668 is there a 2.0 coming soon

Something I've always been curious about .. the drill with hammer and it's (lesser?) brother without. So in this case the HP001GZ v's the DF001GZ. For what on paper seems like a minor price difference and no significant weight difference, why would you buy the drill without the hammer function? In fact, why do they even bother to make it?

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

its a good question. i don't use (and haven't for many years) the hammer function due to owning an SDS unit. if i could save any money, weight or length in the tool, I would :)

@arnoldwiggins

Жыл бұрын

For carpentry around the shed I prefer the drill without the hammer is it's lighter and doesn't have the bulky front, so better sight lines too without unnecessary hammer bits. I guess the "all in one" with hammer might be better if you only wanted 1 drill to cart around with you.

You guys are my go to for reviews these days, thanks for the comparison. I agree with some other commenters; a 40V, BiTurbo, 36V platform comparison would be great for those looking to set up their first system

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

Biturbo is 18v which puts it in a similar basket to Milwaukee. And What of 54v?

Good video but man, I'm pissed at the 40 volt stuff. I'd not long finished my 18volt collection when the 40 was advertised. Now that I've just retired, I've got the cash but no longer have the need.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

haha I'm sure people before you felt the same when the LXT line was released ;)

Good job gents - I just think that you should use 6.0 Ah battery for other tests than endurance with 5.0 for 18v and 2.5 for 40v. Comparing 5.0 Ah 18v vs actually 8.0 ah (2x4ah) 40v could change slightly the score. The xgt is most powerfull but still very expensive for the performance difference. That's shame that they didn't go similar way as Dewalt with the Flex baterry platform backward compatible.

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

Dewalt Flexvolt and Hitachi Multivolt have potential issues with the 2 rows of cells being unbalanced, which can affect longevity. However, I think the main reason for the new battery line was that LXT connection was not strong enough to support larger battery packs, which is part of why we wont see LXT with 21700 (the other being incompatibility with some tools that have tight battery fits). Also, LXT only had 3 terminals (+ve, ground, and prob thermistor) connecting to the tool (there are other pins [yellow], but they only connect to charger), whereas other brands have 4 (+ve, ground, and 2 terminals [clock and data] for i2c communication between tool and battery. The new XGT batteries have 4 terminals, so presumably they've added i2c communication so that the tool and battery can work together better.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

we did use 6Ah battery in all 18V drill tests aside from the runtime.

@dr00spikeee

2 жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk and steel drilling test was at 5.0 Ah 😉 too.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr00spikeee ah that was unintended. though don't really care about steel drilling, it doesn't need a lot of torque ;)

When you used the XGT 40v on masonry, couldn’t you simply step the drill down in speed to the second setting? …and wouldn’t that perform a lot better?

Cool

Faster isn't always better for steel, but I suppose small bits are ok.

@anderslarsen4024

2 жыл бұрын

Sure. Just means friction welding ☺

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

you can look up tables for mild steel that give recommended speeds for each size of drill bit :)

4:45 "numbers don't say that, though". They do, if you look more closely. Soft torque is higher with xgt, despite higher rpm in the same gear as the lxt, so it's either geared higher or the motor is spinning faster. Power depends on both speed and torque, so the xgt, with higher torque AND higher rpm in any particular gear, clearly has more power. It would be interesting to see torque curves vs rpm on both, though. 65 & 68Nm are stall torques, I believe and I wonder what we would see at various loads. With no load, the speed is "no load speed" (650rpm, for example) and as soon as you start driving a screw, the speed drops and torque increases (up to the max, at 0 rpm)

Disappointing about the masonry, for the weight I want to see it compared with the old bosch 36v model. I've had the bosch one once before and the motor ended up burnout, plus it was not a nice drill in tight spaces lol. Think most blokes would be happy with 18v IMHO, might be okay if you're a chippy.

@ashtonlowe6761

2 жыл бұрын

Lol the makita will absolutely destroy that old bosch

hey guys don't know if you would go with this idea, but i brought my bosch tools just before all the brushless tools came out and have always wondered if it is worth upgrading to the new brushless type????

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

Brushless are noticeably better than brushed. Manufacturers claim 30% improvement. There should be lots of of videos comparing them, but the switch to brushless happened a few years ago (and is practically standard now) so you won't see any recent videos comparing them. There are other benefits as you don't need to replace the brushes and the brushes don't burn out if the tool stalls (you can still cook the mosfets, but they usually have temp/current sensors to stop this).

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

And apart from the good points raised by Bob, premium cordless tools just don't have brushes anymore. Even if being brushless wasn't important to you, you can't get the most powerful, premium gear in brushed tools these days.

@markcornwall6405

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbob1321 thanks mate it was quite a while ago, I haven't really watch many tool vids on here so thanks heaps on the advice, old guy syndrome lol

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

@@markcornwall6405 No worries, mate. If you're using your tools rather than watching videos on them, then you're already winning (@Oz Tool Talk would disagree, they would think that you should do both)

@markcornwall6405

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbob1321 lol yeah but the missus gets a little upset if I spend too much time in the shed lol

Most things Makita are pretty good apart from their salesmen. I went to a show with a list of Makita gear to get and the sales bloke was such a pr##k I left with all Bosch. Haven't tried any of the 40V but most reviews seem good. Like I said before the anti kick back has gone too far on some drills. My Bosch wouldn't drill through warm custard. Had to change from my Metabo the other day to the break your arm Dewalt as the Metabo kick back system wouldn't cope with the hole saw I was using. Great in principle but if it stops it doing the job a bit pointless. Wouldn't mind trying that 40V but then I don't have any other Makita stuff on any platform.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

cheers Dave, good feedback

@robertrada4783

2 жыл бұрын

I had a Metabo rotary hammer that was very overzealous with the wrist protection. Just look at it funny and it would think it’s in a bind.

are you jim carreys boss from yes man? like not trash talk just holy shit the resemblance lol that drill looks like a monster.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

haha.

Man kann eben jeden Test beeinflussen, ist hier gut ersichtlich ... und selbst wenn ein paar Sekunden gespart, es wird dadurch kein einziges Projekt günstiger! 🙉

I can only go from my own experience and Makita still has the best 240 volt corded AC tools and battery tools . Milwaukee are pretty good but a bit over priced .

I think the Biggest Difference that your seeing , which isn't on paper , is the Sustained Power of the 40V's , whereas the 18v tool is bogging down ....👍🖖

And the most important thing that easily makes the 40V ALOT better then the 18V: Durability: The electronics ( Weak point on every brushless tool ) are much better heat sinked Tool build to IPx4 standard ( Might not have official certification in your part of the world, but build to it ) Batteries are build to IP56 ( Might not have official certification in your part of the world, but build to it ) Much bigger and beefier electrical connections/rails between battery and tool Much beefier physical rails that connect the tool and battery to prevent breakage while falling XGT batteries have interal shock absorbers to help preventing falling damage And some general points: XGT is the only battery platform at the moment that has the possbility to provide power from anything like a Impact driver up to 6kW output electrical or gas tools. The possibilities are quite 'endless'. 18V, flexvolt, MX Fuel, Husqvarna Pace.... you name it.... all these other platforms can all be done by XGT while still having options like a drill or an compact impact driver in your platform The electronic clutch does not only have more 'settings'. It's ceiling is also alot higher. Close to double I believe. When a mechanical clutch will clutch out at it's highest settings there's still alot more 'range' to go in the electronical clutch before you max that out. Actually becomes usefull for bigger screws/bolts...

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the X2 40V tools should be interesting. The X2 XGT SDS-MAX Rotohammer has some absurd specs (21J vs the 8J of the 18V X2 SDS-MAX). If you use 2x XGT 8Ah batteries then you have 40x21700 cells at 72V, same as the biggest Milwaukee MX battery and will probably cost less, too. Can't imagine using the 40V 8Ah on an impact driver, but the option is there if you've used up all your other batteries on the job :-) I believe mechanical clutches are much better at low torques than electronic clutches, so better for cabinetry, etc where you don't want to over-torque stuff. Maybe in the future we'll see strain gauges built in and potentially get a fairly accurate torque wrench as a bonus.

@dominicvanlievenoogen6407

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbob1321 the MX fuel battery doesn't use 21700 cells I believe ? Just a whooooole lot of 3 ah 18650 cells no ?

@danabenjamin3300

2 жыл бұрын

And reinforced and all metal gears

@dominicvanlievenoogen6407

2 жыл бұрын

@@danabenjamin3300 that's the same for the dhp486 tho :)

@danabenjamin3300

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominicvanlievenoogen6407 lol I know,i was saying its touted as having more of industrial use internals (for higher demand) :)

Huge Makita fan here, and I find some aspects of the new XGT line appealing, but at same time, so aggravated with Makita’s stubborn and illogical thinking regarding the 18 volt battery system! EVERYONE ( Manufacturers ) have 18/20 volt batteries rated higher than 6 Ah, that I know of. But Makita, nope! FAA restrictions are the excuse, is what Makita Tech Reps have repeatedly told me. So someone please tell me why Ryobi, Milwaukee, DeWalt, etc etc, have larger capacity batteries? They pretty much all ship from China! I own several of the 18 Volt X2 tools, and whilst they perform well, one needs to carry twice the batteries for a backup! And the large dual charger if you want to get both charged at the same time. Oh well? Always Enjoy your crackin videos! Peace and Stay safe and Healthy! 👍✌🏻😊

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers George. I understand. X2 is their answer, but I guess it won't satisfy all users 😬

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

Makita won't make an 18V battery greater than 6AH because the LXT connection isn't strong enough to handle the weight of a 15x18650 battery (i.e. Milwaukee 9ah) or a 10x21700 (i.e. Milwaukee 8ah). Also, some of their tools (especially X2) wouldn't fit the larger battery and they don't want that headache. Some of the new XGT batteries have more capacity than the old LXT 6AH. Battery capacity is Volts * Amp-hours = Watt-hours. It would have been better if the industry had used Watt-hours on their batteries from the start, then you wouldn't get this confusion when comparing 18V to 36V (and even 22V, 12V, etc). Some examples LXT 5Ah = 18V * 5Ah = 90 Wh (it can do 90W for 1 hour, or 1 Watt for 90hours, 10 watts for 9 hours, etc) LXT 6Ah = 18V * 6Ah = 108Wh XGT 2.5Ah = 36V * 2.5Ah = 90Wh (exactly the same as the LXT 5Ah. In fact the batteries have identical cells in them, the XGT just has 10 in a row to give 36V, whereas the LXT has 2 parallel sets of 5 to give 18V) XGT 4ah = 36V * 4Ah = 144Wh (more capacity than the LXT 6Ah, same capacity as Milwaukee 18V 8Ah) XGT 5ah = 36V * 5ah = 180Wh (this battery is essentially 2 LXT 5ah batteries stuck together, it has 20x18650 cells in 2 parallel sets of 10. So whilst it has the same Ah as the LXT 5ah, it has double the capacity) XGT 8ah (not released yet) = 36V * 8Ah = 288Wh (equivalent to an 18V battery with 16Ah. When it is released it will be the "largest capacity handheld tool battery"** outside of Milwaukee's MX system. It will be equivalent in capacity to Milwaukee's smaller MX battery) ** (That I know of. There may be some obscure tool brand that has something larger)

@georgedavall9449

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbob1321 Hey Jimbob, appreciate the comment. I’m not quite sure what you mean by the connection not being strong enough? The Makita LXT batteries have one of the most secure fits in the industry. I own tools of all brands, and DeWalt and Milwaukee have some of the ‘sloppiest fits.’ I’ve noticed DeWalt has maybe changed that some, as the newer 3.0 and 4.0 with the 21700 cells, have almost too snug of a fit. I use the 4.0Ah 21700 battery, or the 5.0Ah 18650, on my Jigsaw, and it requires a forceful effort to slide the battery onto the tool. And it’s that way on my 20 Volt planer as well. I’m thinking DeWalt made a slight change in the figment on the tool? I see your point and reasoning on the Batteries. And I do concur that any 21700 batteries would not fit on LXT 36 volt tools. ( I‘ve measured on my rear handle style circ saw, and others, and there is no way. ). Like you said, Makita would have a hella time with a recall or figment issue, and upset Customers as well. Like I stated previously, I have been informed by several Makita Techs, on several different occasions, the reason they would not go beyond 6.0 Ah, is due to the limit imposed by the FAA, regarding maximum Watthours. This is straight from the ‘mouth’ of Makita, not mine. But I don't accept it. Take care of yourself. Peace

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgedavall9449 Makita LXT are a good fit but they're not as strong, i.e. will break the plastic rails on the battery or tool easier when dropped. I haven't handled XGT myself, but seen vids where they comment on the beefier rails. The 100Wh restriction is true (although airlines can allow you to go up to 160Wh - which is 18V 9ah or 36V 4.5ah). But that just means it's harder for us to travel with our batteries. Air freight will have different rules. Makita have already released a XGT 36V 5ah pack (180Wh) and are releasing an 8ah (264Wh), so they can definitely do it. I'm guessing Makita HQ fed their sales reps a story whilst they were secretly working on the new XGT line and the sales reps are still repeating it even though it's provably false now. It was provably false when every other brand released 18V 8ah packs

@georgedavall9449

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbob1321 That’s interesting. I know I’ve dropped my M18 Surge Impact off a 6 foot ladder, onto concrete basement floor, on couple of occasions, due to stupidity/ carelessness, and it survived fine. I keep the HO 3.0 Ah slim battery on it. Battery stayed in! You know, you just might be onto something in regards to what Makita was saying! 🤔. And it was the Factory Techs I was talking to? I still get a little irritated thinking about it. 😆 Peace

Who won the fight?

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

XGT for sure.

@smellysam

2 жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk I meant the WWF Smack Down to bring said tool home.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

@@smellysam 😂 DEFINITELY MIKE 💪🏼💪🏼 ...... lol

Oi my favorite Aussies hard at work 😁👍 🇭🇲👍 🇺🇲👍

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

:D

Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" kzread.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.

Cordless compressor comparison one day?!?

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

hmmm maybe.

I need to drill 3 10 mm wholes in concrete will the 40v do it no problems like I know it’s not as good as the 18 but is it still aight ? And you guys are good blokes not shit ones

@jimbob1321

2 жыл бұрын

If you're regularly drilling 10mm holes then you need a rotary hammer (sds+). If you only need to drill 3 holes, then a hammer drill will do it, but it'll be painful with any drill. Looks like XGT is more painful than LXT and Makita was already more painful than the others.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

To add to Jimbob's good info, yes, if you're only doing a few holes every now and then, the XGT will be fine. If you want to make life more pleasant for yourself, you could do a 6mm pre-drill and then follow with the 10mm.

@mattkaplan1316

2 жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk cheers legend , I will eventually buy the sds

give me the 40v chainsaw UC004G already. or give me a 40v cobweb duster while i wait.

@non-woodsmanuk

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIiisreRiJfHh5M.html

Se dovessi costruire staccionate usando legni di frutti tosti di un certo spessore la versione 40V e' ideale ma su ferro o altri generi la versione 18V a 130 Nm e' piu convenzionale. La Makita a confronto di altre marche come rapporto qualita' e prezzo e' tra le tre migliori se non la migliore. Non capisco la Bosch parecchio cara che a confronto e' un giocattolo.

You guys need to do another with all the new drills that have came out in the last two years!! And that xgt is a beast far better than the lxt you guys had shit bits you need the correct bits for masonry the multi purpose but works great with the carbide it eats the concrete with regular non carbide bits it actually melts them a bit more expensive 🫰 but you can drill concrete metal and wood with one bit!!! The antikickback is remarkable watch the video I made how sensitive it actually is it's the way you were holding it 😂 😂😂 you guys really fucked that one up hahaha 😂 learn the tools guys before making the videos the lxt is no comparison to the xgt point blank no matter what you guys say!!

Why bro can’t drill straight to save his life

@OZToolTalk

Жыл бұрын

Didn't know our lives where on the line?

I do like watching people that dont realise how bad battery tools used to be. Had a Bosch, that took 2 18650 packs, yes 1, 18650 in each slot back in the 90s. Now the old boy was a carpenter/ builder back in the 70s/90s. He used Makita, and tbh, it still goes like a mf, and outdoes most battery stuff. But cords man, cords. But Makita quality of the 70s isnt the Makita quality of these days. Unless you buy the Japanese stuff.

40v 2.5ah is actually not much bigger than the 18v 5ah. totally negligible. I can't speak for the 40v 5ah tho...... but who would put 4 18v 5ah on the same tool.

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

given that the XGT line is 40V Max (read: actually 36V), the 2.5Ah battery is LITERALLY the same Watt Hours as an 18V 5Ah battery. It probably has identical power output too. Dwain

@jchan0425

2 жыл бұрын

@@OZToolTalk yea, i say not much bigger is meaning physical size.

So 60v kicks 40v butt lol

@OZToolTalk

2 жыл бұрын

huh?

Use the drill properly it won't hurt you🤣🤣🤣🤣 we had to do something stupid to make it hurt us. I don't think that it has anti rotation 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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