‘Making Space With Hoda Kotb’: Maria Shriver

Maria Shriver has spent a lifetime unpacking her experiences: Whether it’s grief, her relationship with faith, illness or how she was raised, talking to Shriver is always profound. As she’s navigated her own personal journey, Shriver has figured out not only how to manage situations, but how to live her most authentic life. In this conversation, she opens up like never before, sharing what she’s learned through challenging times, the importance of knowing when to walk away and how she finally gave herself permission to be Maria.
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  • @rosecook8598
    @rosecook8598 Жыл бұрын

    I lost a 25 year marriage. I was over 60. I was broken for three years. I decided I didn’t want to live my life alone. I found the most wonderful man at 65. Keep your heart open. You are a great woman. At 75 I am happier than I have ever been. K

  • @Hummingbirds2023

    @Hummingbirds2023

    7 ай бұрын

    I am happy for you!

  • @sylvia4alvarez

    @sylvia4alvarez

    23 күн бұрын

    Your words have been so encouraging to me. Thank you. 😊

  • @talkingwithdeedee7675
    @talkingwithdeedee7675 Жыл бұрын

    Holy cow! 'A refueling station' for our adult children as a way to continue parenting them...Priceless Gem...Thank You!

  • @Ovprksdnw
    @Ovprksdnw Жыл бұрын

    What a great conversation! Maria is thoughtful, articulate, and authentic. Thank you Hoda and Today

  • @healthyandanextraincome4746

    @healthyandanextraincome4746

    Жыл бұрын

    The woman is Gods itself -- it is not a conversation madame-

  • @tls0501
    @tls0501 Жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful, wise and kindhearted woman. The kind of person you want as a best friend.

  • @talkingwithdeedee7675
    @talkingwithdeedee7675 Жыл бұрын

    Also, Teachers...'What are they here to teach me...' So needed that. Thank You again!

  • @janespitfire9884
    @janespitfire9884 Жыл бұрын

    Read one of her books years ago but always liked this lady. She is very wealthy & hard worker, but suffered like many others. Maria Shriver keeps moving on...like the rest of the smart strong women of the world

  • @williamscott6472

    @williamscott6472

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a very nice speech, how are you doing today my dear...

  • @lili-ye4jc

    @lili-ye4jc

    Жыл бұрын

    I've never understood why even A liste women are betrayed by men like any other chicks, no matter beauty money and fame, when it comes to love we are all on the same boat 😖😱🥺

  • @caroltapia1343

    @caroltapia1343

    Жыл бұрын

    Suffered because of a man

  • @lili-ye4jc

    @lili-ye4jc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@caroltapia1343 women need to stop being attracted by bad boys...so stop complaining !!!

  • @williamscott6472

    @williamscott6472

    Жыл бұрын

    @@caroltapia1343 You women are always attractive, you are a beautiful flowers, butterflies and other beautiful insects are always attracted to flowers 🌺🌹..

  • @dionysiapalmer3945
    @dionysiapalmer3945 Жыл бұрын

    I so listened ! Was slow, refreshing & insightful. I may even save it and listen again !!

  • @helenmaryjohnson1156
    @helenmaryjohnson1156 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for touching my heart, I have an Irish mother who has made me feel invisible. I’m putting your words Marie on my vision board. You have helped this 63 yr old woman❤

  • @oliverkitkat6860

    @oliverkitkat6860

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck too you 🙏❤

  • @song4mozart

    @song4mozart

    Жыл бұрын

    My mom and dad were very encouraging, but for some reason I sabotaged my potential for being greater. Something happened today that was a pivotal learning experience, and I'm 59! I believe God sent this video to me because he knows I needed this right now. 🙏 ♥️

  • @christafratis1472
    @christafratis1472 Жыл бұрын

    Love Maria Shriver… had lunch with her when she was First Lady of Sacramento. Have all the books she has written. Truly, an inspiration to me !!

  • @birdsndog5932
    @birdsndog5932 Жыл бұрын

    The last thing I expected from this discussion was insightful wisdom. Close second - vulnerability. Sincerest thanks to two seriously impressive humans. All respect.

  • @lyniereese1150
    @lyniereese1150 Жыл бұрын

    A refueling station. I broke down when Maria said this. I am 43 and my parents divorced when I was 15 and I have never felt like I had a solid, permanent home or place to always come home to. Somewhere with people I can depend on that is non-judgemental and unconditional. I still yearn for this safe place. I have been diagnosed with CPTSD from consistent emotional neglect throughout childhood. I am trying to create a safe space at home for myself that centers on self-care and acceptance. A safe childhood sets you up for the rest of your life - parents please always be there for your kiddos...not just food, shelter, clothing, vacations, good schooling etc., but allowing them to be who they are and listening and validating them.

  • @kristinaroberts7216
    @kristinaroberts7216 Жыл бұрын

    My boys are 30 and 28 and parenting them now is as important they are my first priority still❤

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @The.BeautyMaven
    @The.BeautyMaven Жыл бұрын

    Loved this conversation between two amazing women whom I admire.

  • @erinlee7216
    @erinlee7216 Жыл бұрын

    I could listen to you ladies all day!❤❤❤

  • @joycestepancevich6591
    @joycestepancevich6591 Жыл бұрын

    To a point early in the chat. We don't give ourselves enough credit for the very life changing events of our lives, that we survived and we are not bitter, but better and we continue to examine the difficult hurdles that we must all navigate in this challenging life we live.

  • @kdyooper28
    @kdyooper28 Жыл бұрын

    If Maria should ever see this: I took a class on how to teach ESL right after I retired. Was paired with a Hispanic lady I soon came to cherish. Our Christmas gifts to one another (probably not allowed in the program: who cares…..) were…… She gave me a rose scented rosary and I gave her “I’ve Been Thinking” by Maria Shriver, in Spanish. I wanted her to know Maria without any struggling. Yeah, we both had tears.

  • @1inNUMBER
    @1inNUMBER Жыл бұрын

    Soooooo much great teaching here!

  • @marikoferrell3275
    @marikoferrell3275 Жыл бұрын

    I have been having difficulties with my marriage for sometimes now but with the help of this Sorceress, I have been able to put my marriage back together.

  • @marikoferrell3275

    @marikoferrell3275

    Жыл бұрын

    @Casey Muller Her name is Luana Kae Branigan.

  • @kathyknighton3713
    @kathyknighton3713 Жыл бұрын

    You have both touched my heart! ❤❤.

  • @patfudala4745
    @patfudala4745 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed listening to you and Maria speak on grief, relationships, faith, illness. I learned so much.

  • @williamscott6472

    @williamscott6472

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Pat, how are your kids and families, hope everyone are perfectly safe and healthy...

  • @tamirenno5845
    @tamirenno5845 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! A lot of the same paths and thoughts of living life, raising kids, mother daughter experiences, etc. Her words are filled with wisdom and helpfulness for me. Thank you Maria.

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @unickmatanda5465
    @unickmatanda5465 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely , what an insightful conversation. Thank you .

  • @alicesennott3161
    @alicesennott3161 Жыл бұрын

    Wow if you two are ever looking for another friend I’m available!!! I’ve loved and respected you both for so many years! I love the wisdom that you share with the rest of us!

  • @teresalegler2777
    @teresalegler2777 Жыл бұрын

    Maria Shriver is always informative, inspiring, and attentive to everyone around her. Thanks for the conversation.

  • @virginiahall8822
    @virginiahall8822 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this interview. I think it be hard to growing up as a Kennedy. Two uncle assassinated. A big family, mostly involved in social problems.

  • @J24606
    @J24606 Жыл бұрын

    This applies to us all in our own way. Great conversation! Tysm. 💝

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @cobielangerak8726
    @cobielangerak8726 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely adored Maria’s parents- yes, from another generation- but my oh my-did this world need them both then and now! Are any of us perfect?

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @kimkelso1360
    @kimkelso1360 Жыл бұрын

    We walk our own path but there are so many similar lessons. Thank you for sharing the wisdom you've learned on your beautiful journey. I too embrace the blessings of being a mature woman. Maybe not all of them...but the ones that count. All the best to both of you.

  • @johnnydeep-ng4vq

    @johnnydeep-ng4vq

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, i'm Richard Harris, is nice to meet you here

  • @womantowomen
    @womantowomen Жыл бұрын

    Loved this conversation, gave me some needful info as to where I find myself about to be 66. Maria is such a woman of wisdom. Thanks Hoda for making space for these conversations 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💕

  • @sunflwr729
    @sunflwr729 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this conversation so much! I subscribed to Maria’s Sunday Paper newsletter after this. Could relate to so much! Also looove Hoda 😊

  • @johnnydeep-ng4vq

    @johnnydeep-ng4vq

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, i'm Johnny Depp, is nice to meet you here

  • @alizevandaalen
    @alizevandaalen Жыл бұрын

    Maria is great to listen to!

  • @cynthiarollins3949
    @cynthiarollins3949 Жыл бұрын

    Maria is wise beyond her years…would love to meet her some day💞

  • @lynnhuddleston3199
    @lynnhuddleston3199 Жыл бұрын

    Loved everything about this interview! Two fabulous women being real! ❤

  • @williamscott6472

    @williamscott6472

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello there, how are you doing today...

  • @nadahammude4088
    @nadahammude4088 Жыл бұрын

    This is sooo good....lots of nuggets of wisdom! Thank you both.

  • @kristinaroberts7216
    @kristinaroberts7216 Жыл бұрын

    Wow what a great talk and messages about everything I’m experiencing in my life at the age In my 60, everyone needs a coach!!!!!

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @anthonychambers513

    @anthonychambers513

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @anthonychambers513

    @anthonychambers513

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @anthonychambers513

    @anthonychambers513

    Жыл бұрын

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    @anthonychambers513

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @davidtownsend9954
    @davidtownsend99543 ай бұрын

    Thank God for Maria's healing journey as it has the power to uplift so many of us. The wisdom that she has gained from all of the grief and loss that she has experienced has been transformed into an incredible power that fuels her resilience that is truly a testament for us all. I love you Maria.

  • @tiffanyi5645
    @tiffanyi5645 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed that coach’s message. She’s encouraging strength and perseverance in a wold that increasingly promotes emotional and mental weakness, “like it’s ok to not be ok”, how about “you will get though this! You are strong! You are capable!”

  • @ParisianThinker
    @ParisianThinker Жыл бұрын

    Really surprised and amazed that authenticity was on display in this conversation. I changed my mind about Maria. WOW! I really liked her after this interview.

  • @jenniferkanan6489
    @jenniferkanan6489 Жыл бұрын

    Understanding the generational communication styles and how it effects us that Maria addresses really gave me “permission” to learn. Thanks ladies for a new perspective! Love the Sunday Paper too!

  • @bethcormier9459
    @bethcormier9459 Жыл бұрын

    I love both of you!! Maria, you are so very full of wisdom; Hoda, you are a positive light in the world. ❤❤ Thanks for sharing your life's learnings with all of us!

  • @michelegawrys7286
    @michelegawrys72864 ай бұрын

    Listening for the second time! Thank you Hoda and Maria!

  • @guillermodangelo6126
    @guillermodangelo61268 ай бұрын

    What a wonderful interview! Thank you so much, Maria Shriver, for all the wisdom you share with millions of people!

  • @judymartin1351
    @judymartin1351 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for reframing so many of the topics you drove into. Completely inspiring. Especially permission to be you.

  • @vidalindner4326
    @vidalindner4326 Жыл бұрын

    Hi there Hoda; I just want thank you verry much for this interview with Maria Shiver. It really hit home with me I've been dealing with a lot stuff from my life and taking care of others and never taking care of me. I have alot of trama in my life. I am trying to find out "who I am". I am still working on my self trying to let go of that is still very difficult for me to do. I'm so glad you have a very decent human being. She is really wise and it seems that is still working on her self...Thank you so much.

  • @avivalevy4450
    @avivalevy445011 ай бұрын

    After listening to this interview, the impression I’m getting of Maria as a person is that she is kind, authentic, intelligent, deep, and a good human being. She is always working on herself. She is the kind of woman I would love to have as a friend.

  • @EmM-zy2zu
    @EmM-zy2zu Жыл бұрын

    What a great interview. Clearly Maria has done the deep thoughtful work of looking inside. I love the simple utter honesty of her sharing. And as a side benefit of knowing yourself and honouring yourself, (which clearly Maria does,) she looks radiantly peaceful and beautiful. Anyone would be blessed to have Hoda and Maria as a friend.

  • @debrajosephs
    @debrajosephs Жыл бұрын

    I always listen when Maria talks. Many ah ha moments.

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @stefaniedavis6071
    @stefaniedavis6071 Жыл бұрын

    I do love Maria's insights. And I"m struck by her saying she was 'invisible' when standing next to Arnold or maybe her mother (she didn't say). I have been in a room with her a couple of times, with hundreds of people, I have to add, and I could never catch her eye. She was shielding herself I think, against being ignored. It was a bummer because I really wanted to meet her mom, and I've wanted to meet her, Maria, since she was a young reporter.

  • @DineeGal
    @DineeGal Жыл бұрын

    Ohhh I loved this video and I think Maria’s messages are fabulous!!!

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @SeaTurtle515
    @SeaTurtle515 Жыл бұрын

    Hoda, you were correct, bring a notepad to this interview.

  • @bettymaugeri7316
    @bettymaugeri7316 Жыл бұрын

    Marvelous insightful conversation.

  • @Hummingbirds2023
    @Hummingbirds20237 ай бұрын

    I have always enjoyed Maria Shriver, i loved her as a journalist. And now too, much respect to her, very wise lady. I dont see her much anymore. Hoda is awesome too!! I miss her as a reporter and serious interviews. Amazing women! ❤

  • @claudial.gonzalez4268
    @claudial.gonzalez4268 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful…..to go out in the world and to have PERMISSION to be our own self !! To be in silence and look with our hearts !!

  • @carolynratliff1380
    @carolynratliff1380 Жыл бұрын

    Both of these women are my heroes and CLASS ACTS….THANKYOU for this😊

  • @KathyRopa-uk9ws
    @KathyRopa-uk9ws4 ай бұрын

    What am great interview. I really admire Maria.

  • @KCNwokoye
    @KCNwokoye10 ай бұрын

    Maria is an amazing teacher and I wish I had a place to refuel but I have to create that space for myself as an adult. Maria is always dropping bombs of wisdom and deep learning. Sending you love and light.

  • @maame6224
    @maame6224 Жыл бұрын

    Another great conversation! Thanks ladies.🙏🙏🤗🤗

  • @lynneaiken773
    @lynneaiken773 Жыл бұрын

    This was such an eye opener. I felt you were in my head, it is everything I'm going thru right this minute. I am going to give myself credit for the things I've done and look at life differently. Ty

  • @lilibethvilella
    @lilibethvilella Жыл бұрын

    Home as a fueling station ❤ love Maria shriver sooo much

  • @stevenlangdon-griffiths293
    @stevenlangdon-griffiths293 Жыл бұрын

    An entertaining and informative and surprisingly refreshing interview. The lady who held the interview showed respect and gratefully for the viewers, let Maria speak and shine. I found what was talked about fascinating.

  • @sophiaelayne9984
    @sophiaelayne9984 Жыл бұрын

    You know the Universe, the Divine always always always sends me the messages I desperately need and boy I needed this. Thank you Maria Shriver. I'm buying her book.

  • @dianemughal1577
    @dianemughal1577 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful and refreshing!

  • @marykaylor7337
    @marykaylor73372 ай бұрын

    I feel like they both were sensitive and were able to express my very thoughts. I mean that in the spirit of their efforts which seem to sincere and thoughtful.🙂💞

  • @stamps4fungin
    @stamps4fungin Жыл бұрын

    Amazing conversation.

  • @richardharris-mt9qb

    @richardharris-mt9qb

    Жыл бұрын

    how are you my dear friend.I am very happy to be your friend , are you there now.? That's Dr.Richard Harris, your friend on KZread How long have you been here on KZread?

  • @song4mozart
    @song4mozart Жыл бұрын

    This is just what I needed right now. Thank you! 🙏

  • @gloriasaliba3395
    @gloriasaliba3395 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great conversation have always admired Maria

  • @lisatucker51
    @lisatucker51 Жыл бұрын

    Great conversation

  • @viviankinney2283
    @viviankinney22836 ай бұрын

    She is really cool ..she is so beautiful inside and out..what a leader..all I can say..wow mind-blowing..thank you for this interview!!!

  • @e.b.2021
    @e.b.2021 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful advises about adult children, how to be there for them whenever they need it.

  • @makaylahollywood3677
    @makaylahollywood36774 ай бұрын

    Wish I had a day or a few hours with Maria...so lovely.

  • @olgasuner999
    @olgasuner999 Жыл бұрын

    Another point what a great role model for American families she is. Once one turn 18 they leave the nest and go on with their lives. I have been doing research and watching the news many women particularly in other countries when they get married they are not able to return to their parental home after a divorce because they disgraced parent’s honor. In order for the parents to keep their name they reject their daughters. Many of these women commit suicide by jumping off from high level buildings or use other source of means to end their lives. I hope someone can start an education abroad to teach these parents that they need to be there for their daughters no matter what. I love how Maria stated her doors are open for love and nourishment that’s the type of parents I have. God bless these parents who’s hearts are like limitless ocean ❤️❤️❤️🌹

  • @KathyRopa-uk9ws
    @KathyRopa-uk9ws25 күн бұрын

    That was great. Thank you!

  • @earthkarma7420
    @earthkarma7420 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I always learn something from Maria. Always thought provoking. I appreciate her gentle intellect. Sound of Music-----even the name Maria. 😂

  • @rebeccazahn5299
    @rebeccazahn5299 Жыл бұрын

    Love this so much. Thank you

  • @rosegibson7351
    @rosegibson7351 Жыл бұрын

    MARIA'S HAS THICK BEAUTIFUL HAIR...MARIA'S INTELLIGENT HELPFUL WORDS ARE EYE OPENING. THANK YOU.

  • @mytexasdays1526
    @mytexasdays15267 ай бұрын

    She's just so special.

  • @teresawatson9656
    @teresawatson965611 ай бұрын

    Maria Shriver is one of my favorite people....

  • @channelldaniels594
    @channelldaniels594 Жыл бұрын

    Such a beautiful lady. So so special.

  • @cindygonzalez509
    @cindygonzalez5098 ай бұрын

    Outstanding!!!

  • @sarahlouise76
    @sarahlouise7611 ай бұрын

    Such an amazing conversation. Truly inspirational 💪✨

  • @rachelogrady5837
    @rachelogrady5837 Жыл бұрын

    My maternal Grand mother, HER grandmother was Mary Jane Kennedy and she married a Clancy. My maternal Grandmother is directly descended from the Kennedy’s.

  • @lisas2538

    @lisas2538

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh. That’s cool.

  • @rachelogrady5837

    @rachelogrady5837

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lisas2538 I think so too. I’ve wanted to learn more about my Great Grandmother but have not been able to find much information yet. I’m still looking though.

  • @lilsamantha1

    @lilsamantha1

    Жыл бұрын

    Who is mary jane kennedy???

  • @martatejerina2164
    @martatejerina2164 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic interview!!!🎉

  • @claireaperez2
    @claireaperez2 Жыл бұрын

    Hoda you are a great interviewer, you give people time to really respond. I enjoyed hearing Maria Shriver, she always teaches me something and I love the poke conversation.

  • @wannacashmeoutside
    @wannacashmeoutside Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this❤❤❤❤ love my Hoda, love me some Kennedy’s and Shrivers

  • @charleslewis6815
    @charleslewis6815 Жыл бұрын

    Great conversation!

  • @jillnurse
    @jillnurse Жыл бұрын

    I learn so much from you ❤

  • @hinanaqvi9075
    @hinanaqvi9075 Жыл бұрын

    wonderful

  • @elizabethpatterson578
    @elizabethpatterson578 Жыл бұрын

    Wow good talks, I learn a lot

  • @sherryshirley3179
    @sherryshirley3179 Жыл бұрын

    I love you both 💓 💗

  • @anamariacamposguevara7423
    @anamariacamposguevara7423 Жыл бұрын

    Love this great interview Maria looks great but how she thinks it’s wonderful, she make me analyze a lot of my own thinking.

  • @nancyhuber9479
    @nancyhuber9479 Жыл бұрын

    THAT WAS EXCELLENT 💞💞💞 Thank you

  • @MB-lx8wn
    @MB-lx8wn Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful inside and out!!

  • @evelynbarrios434
    @evelynbarrios4343 ай бұрын

    I love Maria❤

  • @valeriaw.8501
    @valeriaw.8501 Жыл бұрын

    How wise ... 💜

  • @daleg6950
    @daleg6950 Жыл бұрын

    Book: Feelings buried alive never die.

  • @kelleysigler9759
    @kelleysigler9759 Жыл бұрын

    Such an intelligent, interesting and captivating women.

  • @barbaraannscarlet7885
    @barbaraannscarlet7885 Жыл бұрын

    Gorgeous, brilliant women, both .❤

  • @CCTH2221-lp2zj
    @CCTH2221-lp2zj6 ай бұрын

    I found her “invisible” comment fascinating. Mainly because I first saw Maria when I was in high school on the news. I had no idea who she was related to or connections. I only saw this gorgeous intelligent lady. I started watching CBS morning news because of her. I’m now in my 50’s and I still feel like that high school kid. Trust me when she was on camera she got my attention. Not Arnold…

  • @maryjoan4128
    @maryjoan4128 Жыл бұрын

    Great conversation about women aging

  • @johnnydeep-ng4vq

    @johnnydeep-ng4vq

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, i'm Johnny Depp, is nice to meet you here. Can we be friends?🙂

  • @yuri_nazarenko
    @yuri_nazarenko10 ай бұрын

    Interesting interview, thanks for sharing! I just wish Ms Kotb said "Yeah" less frequently during Maria's talk.