Making Serious Power on Retro 5.0 With a Trick Flow 11R Top End Kit
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Trick Flow's 11R heads are the modern twist on the venerable Twisted Wedge cylinder head design. We dyno tested them on Retro 5.0 to see how much power they were worth over the typical Twisted Wedge, and, just like we thought, they make solid power. #engine #ford #dyno
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Very interesting retro throw back. Appreciated the 80s vibes in editing.
Hey this video hits a little home for me! I have a 1991 fox with trickflow heads, b cam and a Holley systemax kit on it. It also has a Paxton supercharger so it’s definitely old school. It’s bbk headers to catless x-pipe and flow master muffs. I’m getting it tuned with a quarter horse as we speak and should be on the road soon! Awesome video!!!
Impressive results Donut! Keep up the good work!
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
I'm tryin'!
Great to see some retro 5.0 Fox content. The article was a nice detailed read too.
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
Thanks Troy!
Love the 80s theme editing. Awesome work
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Good video! Short and to the point, I also liked seeing those stock heads go in the dumpster!
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
It was hard, since our hoarder tendencies are to keep them on a shelf for 20 years, just in case...
Great video! E7 heads choke so bad. Now you got that air moving!
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
Gotta love those little 127cc intake ports!
I have this exact kit ready to go on 92' mustang convertible. Motor has 100k and runs great. I may freshen bottom end up when I do HCI install just to get the most out of it. These numbers are impressive to say the least. I have the TFS track heat intake instead of the holley like you have. The holleys are tough to beat. Great videos and content! Look forward to more.
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
We were all super pleased with the top end kit. To the point, that we almost called it done right there. That will be a fun combo in the car, for sure!
You had me with that sport coat....!
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
You can't really see it, but I'm wearing the matching pants, too! No boat shoes, though. LOL
I still love love LOVE my little sbf 302.
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
Same here!
Great video series 👍🏼 I bet a bigger cam it would have easily made over 420 , my ls engine makes great power i just wish i could get it to sound like a basic cammed sbf
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
Nice!!!
Down t watch ready t see what it makes. You should run different cams ford e b f and a small solid roller something from Howard's right out the catalog old school. Like to see what different injectors would do factory fox 19s vs newer explorer 4 hole 19s 24s on up. Kenne bell would be awesome to hear. Procharger ps14 d1 hell yeah badasst automobile ever made. Keep the noise up put in a car and let us see it run. I have these heads 11r 190s cnc street. 30over matching # shortblock. But still lookn em in their boxes working my way to it
Where did it make peak power? Love the 80’s theme 👍
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
Peak torque was at 4,900 rpm and peak HP was at 5,800 rpm.
The internet wasn't even a thing when my Mustang was built.
@MrAnthonyfym
5 ай бұрын
We has to read magazines and believe what the summit catalog claimed
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
Aren't you glad it is now, though?
I might pull the trigger!
What size injectors are you using? Thanks for the videos!!
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
These are Deatschwerks 78 lb/hr injectors.
Long Tubes! Add power everywhere...
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
They're coming, but we put those shorties through the wringer, first.
@msk3905
2 ай бұрын
Yup made a significant difference when i swapped them in place of my FMS shorties! I ran the old Twisted Wedge heads and would have loved to run these 11rs if available
Are these the best option to squeeze the most out of sbe 302? Or are there better option top end package wise
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
"Best" is such a loaded term. But the 11R top end certainly works as advertised, and then some. I think with a larger cam, the engine would wake up some as well, but with the stock bottom end, PTV clearance might be an issue with a larger cam. I'd definitely be happy with just this N/A package in my SN-95, no doubt.
I have a 5.0 roller. I have the twisted wedge 11r top end kit. With a 347 stroker, 750cfm carb. What do you think i would be looking at as far as power? Its going in my 86 Bronco. Its backed by a Len Tech AOD trans.
@EngineLabs
Ай бұрын
At what compression ratio? Also, in a Bronco with an AOD, I'd guess you probably won't be spinning it nearly as hard.
@johnnymula2305
Ай бұрын
@@EngineLabs compression is 10:1 Im in AZ. The summers get ridiculously hot. So i didnt want to struggle with detonation issues. Im not planning on racing it. I’ll pretty much be in the 1500-3500 rpm range 99% of the time.
What ECU / System is this ? Speed density? I didn’t see a MAF sensor on that intake
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
It's the Holley Terminator X Fox Body plug-n-play.
How high did you rev to on the rpm on the 5.0 I love it like it is N/A.
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
We spun it to 6,500 rpm with the Trick Flow cam and heads.
What size were the intake runners on those 11R’s?
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
170cc. They are the small version.
What trick flow head and cam can I use with stock 302 pistons
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
There's too many variables to say with certainty. You'll have to measure piston-to-valve to be sure, no matter what.
@arkhsm
2 ай бұрын
Give them a call, I'm sure Trick Flow could tell you !!
What size of headers did you use? And what brand?
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
I should have mentioned that. They are 1-5/8-inch JBA shorties.
Stout numbers but I would have run a comp XE274HR cam in that combo
Do the pistons need to notch to run these heads
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure, because we are using an aftermarket piston. Since the Stage-1 cam is small, there is a chance everything will clear with a stock piston.
did you change pistons? doesn't have same 4 eyebrow
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
We did. We went to a stock-bore forged 2618 piston right off the bat to handle the boost that's coming, and had valve reliefs to work with the 11R heads.
Could you put a spacer underneath the intake to break 400 hp ???
@KingJT80
5 ай бұрын
it made 411...the kit claims 432 with the carb....not bad...
@adamrushka8096
5 ай бұрын
Adding even more runner length would just make more low end.
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
There was a spacer of sorts (it was a capped-off nitrous plate) between the upper and lower intakes to clear the fuel rails.
That's about 350whp, that's not bad on a Stage 1 cam.
@KingJT80
5 ай бұрын
and they'll break 450 with that blower.....be cool if they did the kenne belle 2.1 with 10PSI and these heads....
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
@@KingJT80 If we could have found an old Kenne Bell, we might have tried it!
@KingJT80
5 ай бұрын
@@EngineLabs I think they started selling them again.
What cam?
@EngineLabs
4 ай бұрын
Trick Flow Stage 1
You probably down a little horsepower from what they advertise bc you're running a full accessory drive which im sure they didn't n the torque is higher bc of the longer intake runners
roller rockers?
@KingJT80
5 ай бұрын
gotta have em on these heads. i dont even think they have a pedestal mount version...could be wrong. im looking at them for next yr
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
@@KingJT80 I'm 99% sure they are only available with 7/16 studs. I've gotten spoiled by pedestal mount valvetrain.
It’s gonna make 520-560hp on the vortech
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
You might be surprised... 😁
@Bacongrease00
5 ай бұрын
@@EngineLabs what pulley size
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
@@Bacongrease00 just as it comes out of the box - 3.33 inches.
I’ll never understand why so many people put heads on the block when it’s on a 45 degree angle. The engine stand rotates people.
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
Ummm, that's a dyno cart, not an engine stand. It doesn't rotate.
@HerrPoopschitz
4 ай бұрын
😂didn’t know this was a ‘problem’
@davidkuhn3970
4 ай бұрын
@@HerrPoopschitz I seen too many times people just about drop the heads.
Meh
@EngineLabs
5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video.