Location is at my parent's home, west coast of Finland, near city called Pori

@TheGoofy-Mouse

2 ай бұрын

IP Adress?

@radrolla3406

16 күн бұрын

@@TheGoofy-Mouse XDD

When I watch this, I am so glad that we had computers, but no Internet as kids.

@Dr.Quarex

4 жыл бұрын

I gave this a thumbs-up despite the fact that everyone in this video had probably used the Internet by the time this video was made. I think I was only into the Demoscene for a few months at most before I first used IRC or a browser in 1992. Though I still appreciate the sentiment--the Internet was a lot less prone to taking all of your free time in a day 25+ years ago, haha.

@spladam3845

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dr.Quarex There was no internet in 92. I was still running a BBS, and the online access was dominated by charge-by-the-hour web portal services like AOL and Prodigy. There were no search engines or web crawlers and you were limited mostly to the domains of the respective web portal you used or the content of the BBS you connected to. The first available browser, Mosaic, was released in 93

@matthewmurrian9584

8 ай бұрын

​@spladam3845 Yes, I was connecting to the Internet through the portal of a local BBS, Infinite Space Online. At this point, it was primarily gopher, usenet, and mostly a novelty. Staying local to the BBS was far more interesting to me.

@converdb

7 ай бұрын

It was tough as hell, reading assembly books and learning about hardware from the very manufacturer docs 😂

@RegisMichelLeclerc

Ай бұрын

And no mobile phones...

I was like 13 when Second Reality came out and it totally changed my life. That demo was playing non stop on my 386dx and it drove my parents crazy haha. Good times.

@ralfbierig

Жыл бұрын

Likewise... plus... my DX hung 2 out of 3 times and I had to reboot it about 10000 times. :D

@TacoFlavoredKisses

3 ай бұрын

386sx then dx2-66 overdrive in the board. good times!

@QINGCHARLES

2 ай бұрын

Amen, brother. Second Reality changed the whole demoscene. Changed what was possible. Good times.

Absolutely incredible. Happy to hear some of these guys became the founders of Futuremark / 3DMark. Thanks for the inspiration in 1993 and throughout the decades.

@raf.nogueira

6 жыл бұрын

This vídeo is amazing inspirational and just amazing too that people save this things, this is very important! I wish I could find people that have passion for programming ,graphics and games to make some happy work hours programming like this dudes...

@Rentta

2 жыл бұрын

And also founders of Remedy and almost founders of first Finnish Gpu manufacturer.

@KH0LRA

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rentta Remedy fan here! Actually reading really deep into their history is how I found Future Crew's work. Very glad to see this wonderful intimate behind the scenes part of gaming and technology history! I have become very inclined to attempt coding as a result from inspiration.

here you can see the Gods

@antus666

4 жыл бұрын

Not only did they write ground braking demos, they also wrote the tracker to write the music!

Now we have English subs for the video, thanks to KZread user elaintahra!

Just watching this again and realised it has English subtitles in case anyone else misses it!

@TheKiriru

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed! Thank you so much.

@bazz123

5 жыл бұрын

Just watching this again and realised it has English subtitles because I have read your comment...

@NoiseCommander3DS

2 ай бұрын

Hah, didn't notice that thanks a million!

These guys were my heros when I was 15... they inspired me to go on to become a software developer. 2nd Reality was the most awesome thing I'd ever seen when it came out. I always wondered how they worked on it together... really interesting insight.

When I ran this on my PC back in 93 it was the first time I stopped regretting selling my Amiga. Top work, and groundbreaking at the time.... and I could listen to that music all day!

Mov ax, 0013h Int 10h ... Mov ax, 4C00h Int 21h Borland Turbo Assembler; DOS coding was a lot of fun having total control of absolutely everything 💫

Блин, одно из самых уютных видео, которые я когда-либо видел. Видно, как ребята работали сообща, чувствуется их командный дух и то, как они старательно работали над общим детищем. Демосцена, которую я пересмотрел уже раз 10 как под гипнозом. Это шедеврально, а увидеть как это было в жизни - бесценно! Просто думаю, что ребята, которым на видео лет по 20, сейчас уже больше 40-ка. Прошло почти 30 лет. О боже мой, как летит время. Мне ли говорить, поскольку эта демосцена старше меня лет так на 8

@alexanderbohlen5923

2 жыл бұрын

Раньше было лучше - для меня аксиома. Самое удивительное что это был практически чистый энтузиазм, и никакой коммерции, видео очень уютное, ещё и с евроденсом на фоне

You are responsible for the fact that I chose computer engineering at university and became a computer engineer. 😁 When I saw your masterpiece I decided what I wanted to become. ❤

almost 23 years ago... brings a tear to my eye :)

You guys were legends for your time, and as far as I'm concerned, continues on. Awesome footage to see, and gives an insight to all the awesome shit we did as "kids" before the internet. Most people today have no idea how insane demos were for their time.

@s3vR3x

8 жыл бұрын

they still are insane.

@slindber81

7 жыл бұрын

Fuck yes. They still look great and sound better.

@V3ntilator

7 жыл бұрын

They are still insane in 2017. :)

@cattenchaostherandomperson

4 ай бұрын

hey, I’ve been trying to find a computer that can run this demo and I’m a young’un, so not all hope is lost

Several people have commented about seeing Jonne (Purple Motion) in the video. I'm sorry to tell you that Jonne was not present that day.

@BlackStarEOP

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe Psi was mistaken for Jonne because he was playing around with ST3? I'm not sure if many people know Scream Tracker was written by Psi :D

@FrancoCatrin

7 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering why he has dark hair now. That explains it :-)

@mollycait619

5 жыл бұрын

I'm working on a podcast episode about the demoscene in Finland. I'd like to include some audio clips from this video -- is that something you and Tomi Suominen and the rest of the crew would be ok with? I'd be happy to provide more details.

I must have watched this demo a million times in 93. Still today it blows away allot of game demos. brings back great memories.

That's awesome

Absolute legends! Wasn't alive during that time, but have huge appreciation for all the amazing work!

@mightymax9948

2 жыл бұрын

Same!

I wish you guys reunited to make one more demo.

@prltqdf9

5 жыл бұрын

Could probably happen but only when the guys are grey-haired pensioners.

@kke

4 жыл бұрын

@@prltqdf9 I think this is why the scene seems to be gaining momentum again. Guys made their kids, got some work done and now have some free time on their hands again.

@Perfidion

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think we have the processing power to handle a modern Future Crew demo. I'm sure my PC would spontaneously combust under the strain.

@themule137

2 жыл бұрын

@@Perfidion that's our hope!

@leeterthanyou

Жыл бұрын

@@prltqdf9 I wouldn't complain one bit

if you are still around, just know that going down a long rabbit hole starting at a remix of unreal 2 made by one of my favorite composers led me here. you guys were incredible and not only kickstarted the dos/windows branch of the demoscene, but also made what would become one of the more influential demos in history as far as I know.

OMG!!!! I remember those years, going to PC parties, coding marathons and enjoying time with friends. Men you made history and inspired a whole generation porting the Amiga demoscene to the PC world. Thanks for sharing this moment.

I start test my Sound Blaster 16 with the Unreal demo, and then with this. Several times with loud volume. THANKS !!!

Second Reality made me join the demoscene back in '93 as coder.

30 years ago. Was mindblowing

legends man.... fucking legends

@s3vR3x

8 жыл бұрын

indeed

You can sense the excitement in the room. I wonder if they realized they were inspiring an entire generation.

Офигенная рекомендация от Ютуба! Просто кусочек истории, запечатленный на видео, о котором можно было только мечтать.

Thank you for sharing this unique behind the scenes video footage.

Second Reality made me get serious. My dad showed it to me in late 1993. It made me realize that there was quite a bit that I didn't know, and it set me on the journey to find out how to make demos and games on the level of you guys.

The future in the making back way then. When I got this, it was jaw dropping for sure. It gave me the push to head into IT. And in 93' it wasn't easy to get into IT without any university degree, but I managed. Best choice I ever made. Thank you all guys for this. Reading all the commends, this demo has changed lives for many, including my own. 👍

Second Reality was one of the first demos I ever saw, behind one from Renaissance. It blew my mind just how technical and amazing it looked. I know it looks antiquated now but in 1993 it was cutting edge and made by some extremely talented people. I’ve never seen this video, it’s really cool getting to see what they all looked like and the space they used to create a Demo that to this day, is still one of the best I ever saw. Now when I go back to it, I just get a massive blast of nostalgia back to that year when I was running an ANSI/Warez BBS. Ah the days when only one person could connect at a time because I could only afford one phone line. Cheers FC, you guys are all amazing at what you did back then, music absolutely included.

@gerryn2

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it looks antiquated, it was peak performance of it's day and still holds up today but you have to consider what kind of equipment they had back then. This all ran on CPU and it's amazing what they could squeeze out of absolute shit processors comparing to today by optimizing code to the absolute extreme.

@clonexx

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerryn2 It’s antiquated for what’s possible today, that’s what I was getting at. Technology has moved so far ahead of what we had in 1993, where there weren’t even GPUs, and only VGA cards. I wasn’t trying to diminish what they accomplished, because what they put out for the technology of the time was absolutely mind blowing. It’s like Polaroid cameras. They still work, still take cool pictures but compared to even your average cell phone, the picture quality is bad. I love Polaroids, that doesn’t mean they aren’t antiquated :) Basically it wasn’t meant as an insult but a compliment for what they achieved with the technology available then. I damn near worshipped FC and Renaissance back then. They were the reason I started an ART BBS that morphed into a fairly popular warez/ansi art board for my area. If I had never seen those demos, I never would have gone in that direction and met some really cool people. Hell, I spent a ton of time on #ansi on IRC thanks to them heh

Thank you guys from all of my hearth. It maybe sound unbelievable, but this demo pushed me a lot. I became programmer, worked in game industry and now continue my life as a professional programmer. I am happy :)

Thanks for sharing! Golden era of PC demos. Brings back memories of what it was like behind the scenes pre-internet as many have commented :)

@Xonatron

Жыл бұрын

Ha, good to see you here too!

@Imphenzia

Жыл бұрын

@Matthew Doucette wow hey mate. Was it 6 years ago since my comment really haha?

@Xonatron

Жыл бұрын

@@Imphenzia Yeah, time is speeding up I think! I somehow find my way back to the same (cool) videos like this over and over again!

I was 15 back then and was writing music on trackers back then, these guys bought this stuff out and we all tried to be them, they really pushed the PC scene and gaming (at the time) in new exciting directions when at a time a lot of stuff wasn't code based graphics it was purely in the sprite world. They inspired me to keep on with music and do a few great things in music and graphics in my life and still at it today. Special times back then, stuff you don't really think of at the time.

Filmed on my 15th birthday according to the date stamp. I was still coding on the Amiga back then and didn’t get a 486sx25 with a GUS of my own until i was 16 but this demo is what made me buy one and start doing 386 assembly. 😊

Thanks for sharing this! I was 12 years old in 93. I think I got my PC about a year after that and I started writing tracker music, visiting BBSes over landline and visiting to demo-scene parties consequentially. It was such a fun time to be around. I've been listening to tracker-music on youtube again now and it makes me remember how this music was really underground and unknown by most of the population, it was a parallel musical universe that I am still grateful for.

Amazing! I remember downloading this for my 386 from a BBS at 14.4k

@michigandronesystems3352

7 жыл бұрын

Me too! Can't believe I'm hearing this now... :) :)

@bigcretin

7 жыл бұрын

14.4k? Luxury!

@Dr.Quarex

5 жыл бұрын

I remember having it uploaded TO my BBS! Good times.

@biggerandbetterthings7222

2 жыл бұрын

I miss the days when you could type faster then a 1200, or 300 baud modem :(

@MrDejanPesic

2 жыл бұрын

Me too 😊

I still remember Second Reality in 2024! It's amazing to looking at this video and realize that 31 years have passed. The theme song has a different arrangement than the final version =)

My god this is awesome. As a young programmer in 1992 using my smoking fast 386/40 and programming in BP7 with inline assembler (long live unchained vga), Future Crew showed me what was really possible and they showed me to create true art amongst the logic and math. **wipes tear from his eye**

@sky173

7 жыл бұрын

absolutely! brings a tear to my eye also... happy days!

@coolie4u

Жыл бұрын

Borland Turbo Pascal with occasional inline asm was such a beautiful way of coding for me in the 90s. Pascal felt so nice, like art meets computer programming. Good times 💫

@IntuitionAmiga

Күн бұрын

@@coolie4uBP5 and inline asm with Denthor’s tutorials before buying TASM and going deep was how I started 😊

Just saw the video for the first time, really amazing and impressive

Fantastic! Today it`s just a historic video documentary! I was curious all the time imaging how the demo scene creations were made. Thanks for sharing, Mika! What a really cool track - I can listen it the whole day and night! Reminds me the works by Jasper Kyd and Co for the great old games Sub-Terrania, Red Zone, AofB&R! Long live the oldschool electronic, techno and rave music! =)

@malworld.5535

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah!

It's still like watching a piece of history in the making. No words.

This is one of the demoscene groups that shaped my taste in music. I grew up on a cow farm out in the middle of nowhere. Getting out to a monthly disk swapmeet was my only lifeline to music. VERY thankful for the demoscene and cracktro groups!

Thank you to this group to create the most beautiful and amazing demo on PC for the demo scene 'second reality".. Good work and good group ! Thanks to Purple Motion to credit me at the end after our exchanges by mailing at this period. I wrote to him to send my congratulations for all music he created. It's very cool to see this group at this period and there's a video where they met again and they are adult and it's very cool .. Peace ! .. Nostalgic period and today it's a real pleasure to see this demo again and various remake ..

Wow, what a treasure to find this video, thanks for uploading. It was surely a cool time for you guys too to create such a production, respect!

The music of Second Reality was one of the most awesome tracks I ever heard and still is today in 2020!!! Second Reality would not have been as awesome as it was if it wasn't for the (synchronized) music!

@jestertoo

4 жыл бұрын

yes!

Still love it in 2017!!! ;)

Loved this. It speaks to how awesome you made the demo back then, that so many of us still love it. I still have the songs on my playlists and I watch the demo from time to time. Seriously, incredible job you did!

Good old times! I watched all of your Demos and started playing as "MegaJeff" with Scream Tracker back in 1994 because of you. .MOD and .STM files were the stuff back in the day. I upload some of my work in all BBS I knew at the time. Thanks for the inspiration, down to Brazil. Cheers!

Of course watching the demo nowadays looks a bit old school. I was 11 in 1993 😉 But *WOW* back then, I can't find the word to say how *AWESOME* it was.

Thanks Mika for uploading this. Did not bump into this vid until now but it is both a travel back in time to my youth as well as well actually very nice to see making of the second reality. Memories of the old CRT displays, CPUs and making intros or demos with your friends in the dark / curtains closed preparing for the next Assembly etc. is something most of the modern generation cannot appriciate (or understand) anymore.

It bring me tears (of joy) to see this. You guys get me started in assembly programming 20 years ago... thanks.

Wow, never thought about seeing footage of this stuff being created before. Nice work archiving this stuff dude.

omg. you guys were my inspiration back in 1991. Your music demo "Second Reality' was a world wide sensation. Those were some very good times which inspired me to write music on computers and get involved in computers.

Thank you so much for posting this and thanks to all of Future Crew.

That video footage is priceless. Thanks so much for sharing.

track list: 1. 0:18 Dance Nation - Let The Rhythm Entrance 2. 3:08 Tangerine Dream - Song Of The Whale, Part 1 and more...

The BEST demo EVER! This demo was my inspiration to play today in computing. Thanks for sharing this video. It's too exciting.I'm a big fan

Wow! What a video! This is a piece of history right here! There are several other good Demos over the years but this is the one that all others are compared to. All these years later it still blows my mind what these guys (and others) could sit and code a machine to do--and how great it looked. And "greets" to Purple Motion/Jonne Valtonen who is my age (born a few days after I was) and was 17 when this video was filmed. I've never met or spoken to you but have always had immense respect for the things you've done over the years.

@Foebane72

8 жыл бұрын

+Jovetj Why? Why is "Second Reality" the demo that all others are supposedly compared to? I could see the Amiga do better in the same year.

@jovetj

8 жыл бұрын

+Foebane72 Because it blew people's minds at the time, that's why. It combined elements that other great demos had, such as effect/sequence variety, length, and a fantastic soundtrack into one presentation. Please share with us the Amiga demo(s) that rival this one. I'd love to see them. I admit I've never really looked at Amiga demos, since I've never owned one. And since nobody else did either, that probably has something to do with why they're not around anymore. For better or for worse.

@Foebane72

8 жыл бұрын

+Jovetj Desert Dream by Kefrens. It was the Amiga equivalent of its day, and it came out earlier, as I recall. It wasn't the only one, neither, the Amiga was blowing minds ever since 1991 with these new fancy demos that tried new and interesting things, and they only got better with AGA to exceed the PC specs of the time. And I'm assuming you're American and thus PC-biased, but the Amiga was HUGE in Europe, and the Amiga was unassailable in that market. Heck, it took the death of Commodore, Doom, and the consoles to overtake Amiga in the mid-90s.

@jovetj

8 жыл бұрын

+Foebane72 I happen to firmly believe token ring to be technically superior to ethernet, but ethernet still won out. The world moved on. You won't catch me whining about it 20 years after the fact. I have known people who have had Amigas, and I've heard them sing their praises too. I hear Acorn computers were pretty good. There were also a few independent systems in the states that had merit, but they dried up as well. Since the ideal/perfect computing platform and operating system have yet to be invented, the market is waiting. My point was that this demo is a defining moment in the PC demo scene, and this video is thus a piece of history. I don't recall writing that this demo can kick an Amiga's ass, because frankly I don't care. And the world has moved on.

@Foebane72

8 жыл бұрын

+Jovetj There are still plenty of retro system users out there that are still making demos to this day, the Amiga hasn't "died", nor has the C64 or others. In fact, the Demoscene has brought about a comeback for some of these systems when otherwise they might've died out. And there's still retro gamers, too.

I worked for years with the impulse tracker, but this video proofs that I am an absolutely noob. So astonishing. Future Crew is simply the best

This is amazing. Thank you for the flashback.

Source code at github.com/mtuomi/SecondReality

@TimoSaloranta

6 жыл бұрын

W00t! I had totally missed this. This is so epic, thanks for making it available!

@pskourale

4 жыл бұрын

Made with Pascal and C?

my childhood heroes

Wow, it's so unreal to see this!!! Second Reality was by far the best demo I ever saw, I remember watching it over and over back then. Getting this glimpse behind the scenes is awesome, cheers for uploading it! :D Oh, now I realized there are subs.. guess I'm watching it again :P

Greetings from 2020. I yet can remember when I attended Assembly '93, it was my first Assembly ever. Demos are nowhere near as they were on good old days. Then everything was limited and coders must had innovative ideas and skills.

Thank you for the English captions!

Amazing! Everything about this video, Second Reality, and Future Crew!

thats so interesting to hear early versions of the music

I have seen 2nd reality countless times. Inspirational. Awesome. Still fascinated by it after so many years.

I remember seeing "Second Demo" at a Radio Shack in Ohio back in the early 90's. The manager copied it on a floppy for my dad and to this day we still listen to it.

I can't even begin to describe how influential this demo was to me... Started me off on coding and tracking, both of which I do professionally to this day!

Waaaah! My myths! Guys you are all insanely AMAZING!!!! This is still the Demo of the Demo. It still rocks in 2017, it's eternal! We all want a remake of Second Reality for modern PC!!!!!!

Just think, this was over 30 years ago at this point - still an awesome demo...

Thank you for sharing this... it brings back memories from 24years ago... wow ...

Goosebumps :)

I'm so glad to finally see some of the people that made the demo I still love to this day! Thanks for posting this! (I realize I'm almost seven years late with this post... :) )

The whirring these computers are making in the background gives me such nostalgia.

And thanks for uploading! Great video, nice to see how this best demo of all time was made.

Respect for all you guys! You did amazin' stuff.

I always wondered what it would have been like to be part of Future Crew making this demo... funny almost 20 years later, I get my answer :P

Thank you for sharing this.

Translation, " I am not an atomic playboy."

Magic. The work, and the video.

the best demo recognition ever... that demo was set into all computer stores around back then to showcase what you can do with a computer! Why? Because that demo looked and sounded better than any games or demos at that time!

the seven dislikes are from people that have no clue what they are talking about (referring to programming)

@dannyvanderhofstad3974

9 жыл бұрын

Nah I think it's from the group that were second/third at ASM93 ;)

Realmente un momento histórico el que sale grabado. ¡Mis más sinceras felicitaciones para la gente de Future Crew!

The best demo of all time! Nice video! You sure have fond memories about this. :)

"toi jaksaa vaa kuvata" ...25 vuotta myöhemmin

Nice old memories . Thank u! 🤗

SR is a legendary demo. FC is a legendary crew. I also own an Amiga, and Amiga demos from back then suck because of all the wank and crappy grammar ("we're the best"... "look at this amazing cube"...). PC demos like this are just right down to the point and awesome demonstrations of what was possible.

This was a milestone in computer demo. I still remember this epic feeling seeing this miracle for the first time on my 386

Super awesome, thanks for uploading!! I remembering running this in 1993 on my 486 DX33 (my first PC, previously had an Amiga 500) and being totally blown away. Also this is one of the reasons I bought a Gravis Ultrasound the next year :-)

Very awesome. I still watch this demo regularly it's an inspiration for me to improve our demo coding. This demo was one of the things which inspired me to start programming in the first place. The plasma and the moire patterns are effects that I still don't know how exactly you guys pulled this off. Really an incredible achievement! Now my only hope is that when this demo reaches its 25th anniversary, the source would be released, but that's wishful thinking =) Greets, BlackStar / Edge of Panic

Wow, just stumbled upon this. 2nd Reality really had a huge impact on the young programming me :)

legends. Good old time when computer where noisy as hell

@Armada2010

7 жыл бұрын

itotophe noisy they became in 2000-s, than came Ghz freqency and above. Hellish socket A coollers! )))

@workingman00

6 жыл бұрын

typical hard drive noise

Esta demo me impactó mucho. Fue increíble lo que hicieron. En aquella época tras verlo, con unos 17 años me puse a aprender ensamblador 386. Wow

This is great. Second Reality was just so mind blowing at the time. So well put together with the music, the transitions, it really made me want to keep coding and programming. I was about 15 at the time. Now GPUs and shaders do all the work... What a time in the scene. Still wish i knew to this day how the interference effects were done in this demo... It was one of my favorite parts (the color smoky effect and the black and white circles)

amazing times... C64, Atari and Amstrads upgraded to IBMs :) hercules, cga, later VGA, Scream Tracker (I made many tunes these times on it), 286, 386, 486... turbo switch and yellow, green LEDs on PC, key for keyboard, DOS, Greetings to your legendary crew +Mika Tuomi

So awesome to see Purple Motion live at work on the music! I've spend so many hours like that in Screamtracker when I was a teenager, listening to his music as a great example. Amazing video!

@OzeroCa

5 жыл бұрын

Haha, yup! PM and SK were huuuuuge influences to my tracks, aaaaand maybe their samples, too...

@socks710

4 жыл бұрын

I think the person is Skaven, actually

20 years, congrats guys!