Making hydrazine sulfate from bleach

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Well we made hydrazine sulfate. Nothing more to say.
Don’t try this at home. Hydrazine is highly TOXIC AND CARCINOGENIC. We are only making it because we want to copper plate glass and we might also make luminol. Proper safety precautiuons were implemented (gas mask with a NEW hydrazine compliant filter, gloves and 10m of safety distance on a windy day).
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  • @midwestchem368
    @midwestchem3682 жыл бұрын

    Personally I think dealing with and recycling waste is always great to see as well! The topics dont get shown or talked about on youtube all that much. Great video man!

  • @JustinKoenigSilica
    @JustinKoenigSilica2 жыл бұрын

    Tip: levitate your thermocouple a bit above the bottom, and do not let it touch the sides - else you'll form local hotspots. Edit: hell yeah i wanna see the hydrazine waste disposal!

  • @lens3973
    @lens39732 жыл бұрын

    Great timing! I am just waiting on urea. I'm interested in making luminol as well (glowing stuff is always fun). That's a gorgeous product, btw, really nice prep. Also, I would love to see you deal with the waste! It's super interesting to see a toxic material be slowly converted into something manageable.

  • @peterc.3808
    @peterc.38082 жыл бұрын

    Subscribed! Please do a video on how to deal with all the toxic waste. Looking really forward to the copper mirror project.

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie3 ай бұрын

    The probability of a suck-back or overflow is directly proportional to the danger it will cause. +1 to the previous comments asking for a clean up video. Being able to clean up the waste and any accidents properly is what people need to think about most before comtemplating use of hazardous materials.

  • @nocturnomrsoffa6042
    @nocturnomrsoffa60422 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful white crystal :))) Good video

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
    @chemistryofquestionablequa62522 жыл бұрын

    Nice! I'm going to be doing this synthesis soon, though I'm doing it to make a small amount of nickel hydrazine nitrate primarily, but I think I'm going to make a copper mirror for my mother in law as well.

  • @naedemic1516
    @naedemic1516 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tutorial :) I'm doing this for my middle school science project

  • @quentincressard1108
    @quentincressard1108 Жыл бұрын

    I just discovered your chanel and she's very great. Thanks for the partage! But, when do you plan to make the video where you determine the purety of the hydrazine sulfate obtained?

  • @jozefnovak7750
    @jozefnovak77503 ай бұрын

    Super! Thank you very much!

  • @hadinajafi2082
    @hadinajafi20824 ай бұрын

    Excellent👌 Excuse me, is it possible to use 5.5% bleach?

  • @Zenzicubic
    @Zenzicubic2 жыл бұрын

    If you're curious, the carboxylic acid intermediate is called "carbazic acid".

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @tp6335
    @tp63352 жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to see if agar also works, for making vegan hydrazine

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    It isn’t a chelating agent therefore agar wouldn’t work. EDTA works as a chelating agent though.

  • @jesscorbin5981
    @jesscorbin59812 жыл бұрын

    Would you be interested to show how you would chelate zinc to produce zinc bisglycinate chelate?

  • @AmadAmaggg
    @AmadAmagggАй бұрын

    ❤ good luck

  • @firas4912
    @firas49122 жыл бұрын

    WHAT CAN HYDRAZYNE GIVE WITHE SCL2 (di chlorure de soufre)

  • @karolus28
    @karolus282 жыл бұрын

    can I be use sodium hydrogen sulfate (NaHSO4) instead. i don't have sulfur acide

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    That cannot be used…

  • @jessemayle1380
    @jessemayle13806 ай бұрын

    I would like to see how you process hazardous waste

  • @LFTRnow
    @LFTRnow Жыл бұрын

    If you wanted hydrazine rather than its sulfate, could you have not isolated it by gently heating the mixture rather than adding sulfuric acid? I found out hydrazine forms a hydrate that boils at 120C in water so it should be possible to just gently evaporate the water, raising the N2H4 concentration, then you can just filter out the NaCl and Na2CO3 as it crashes out of the liquid. As you increase its purity it might be possible to use freezing to concentrate it further as it apparently freezes early, at about 2 C. What do you think?

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    Жыл бұрын

    too much water. for the hydrate you should much rather make the sulfate, react it in a different vessel with aqueous NaOH and boil that off. stay safe this is very dangerous so don´t try.

  • @LFTRnow

    @LFTRnow

    Жыл бұрын

    @@THYZOID Hey thanks for answering, very cool of you. I don't really have need for N2H4, I just wondered if that would work. Why does too much water create a problem? I've seen vids where people concentrate H2O2 from boiling off water, so I thought it would (eventually) work? As for combining with NaOH, that is a smart idea. I figure you'd get H2O (from the acid/base reaction) + Na2SO4 + N2H4. Pretty smart, since having the hydrazine sulfate is much easier to extract as you said.

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LFTRnow because of the azeotrope you will loose a lot of hydrazine before hitting the target temperature

  • @pharmdiesel
    @pharmdiesel Жыл бұрын

    Waste processing is always important for the responsible chemist please make a video if you haven't already

  • @chanheosican6636
    @chanheosican66362 жыл бұрын

    Have you thought of making Hydrazine chloride by reacting calcium chloride salt? Plating copper to the glass I did that with Silver, sugar, and lye with Ammonia it forms explosives compounds. However, I would never mess with Hydrazine salts.

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s a good idea

  • @exigent7904

    @exigent7904

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Edward Elizabeth Hitler The N2H4 Chloride is very soluble in water (much more than the sulfate) so it’d be a nightmare to drop it out of the NaCl, NaCO3, and NaClO solution.

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    Жыл бұрын

    @Edward Elizabeth Hitler I think there's a video on KZread of the hydrochloride salt. Maybe it was the HgN3 channel?

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    Жыл бұрын

    @Edward Elizabeth Hitler you're exactly right, I messed up the name. Is it him that did the hydrazine hydrochloride video? Whoever did it was making it for either reactivechem or DBX labs.

  • @bataalexander9703
    @bataalexander97032 жыл бұрын

    Could it be used calcium hydroxide instead of sodium hydroxide?

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s less soluble so no

  • @Stealth86651
    @Stealth866514 ай бұрын

    No taste test?

  • @chemistry-experiments78
    @chemistry-experiments782 жыл бұрын

    That's real chemistry now! The good old [Bucket] Cutopencanister chem! Just the way I like it! Btw, I'm aming for The Ring (Tetrazole) now, do you know how to turn guanidine into aminoguanidine? I've followed a different root from Ex&F, I made guanidinium nitrate from ammonium nitrate and urea and I'm stuck there. Any ideas? Maybe I could make it from hydrazine and GN, but how to make N2H4 without any bleach and with shitty glassware? (Any project with bleach I did falied).

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I don´t know but theres probably a paper on that somewhere

  • @chemistry-experiments78

    @chemistry-experiments78

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@THYZOID I didn't find any, nobody makes it this way, everyone makes it from CaNCN and N2H4.

  • @exigent7904

    @exigent7904

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chemistry-experiments78 The most accessible way is likely direct animation of Guanidine nitrate with hydrazine to form AG, DAG, and TAG (those being Aminoguanidine, diaminoguanidine, and triaminoguanidine). In that case you’d have to tune the reaction to favor AG. Alternatively you can dehydrate Guanidine nitrate to nitro Guanidine and reduce via electrolysis or ZnCl2

  • @exigent7904

    @exigent7904

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also you can do the hydrazine reaction in any PP or HDPE container as long as it stays below around 90C. Bleach concentrations around 10% are best but have lots of foaming

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    Жыл бұрын

    @@exigent7904 I don't know about the electrolysis process, but everyone I know that has done the zinc reduction has gotten absolutely abysmal yields.

  • @commonsense-og1gz
    @commonsense-og1gz Жыл бұрын

    many astroneer fans were probably looking for this.

  • @SodiumInteresting
    @SodiumInteresting2 жыл бұрын

    How will you protect the copper mirror? From what I know it its not at all durable. I'm wanting to try this but not until I have a solution to this problem

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ll first make the copper mirror and then I’ll rinse the test tube with acetone before drying it shortly. Then we are going to spray some clear lacquer into the test tube to protect the thin copper mirror from oxidation. I don’t know if this will work but it’s very likely that it will.

  • @SodiumInteresting

    @SodiumInteresting

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@THYZOID I was thinking it will flake off upon touch, just from the KZread videos I've seen it doesn't bond like the tollens reagent silver mirror does. I imagine it would be quite difficult to pre coat the glass with something to help it bind and still have an optically smooth and clear finish. I'm on the last stage of making this hydrazine sulphate. Hope it works

  • @SodiumInteresting

    @SodiumInteresting

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@THYZOID BTW I wish I had watched this before the nilered one. He gives little warning about massive overflow when adding the urea. Must have spilled 300 to 400ml of hydrazine solution in my kitchen/lab lastnight 🤦‍♂️

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SodiumInteresting I’ve had the same problem the fists two times we tried it. After that this huge container proofed to be the perfect choice.

  • @SodiumInteresting

    @SodiumInteresting

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@THYZOID check it out, not the purest white but it still may be acceptable kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJqVpsWlgs29cZc.html

  • @user-eh2se3rb5f
    @user-eh2se3rb5f2 жыл бұрын

    Are you planning to make sodium azide?

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    Currently I’m not

  • @jesscorbin5981
    @jesscorbin59812 жыл бұрын

    Pure gelatin? Where did you obtain it pure

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grocery store. You can get unflavored gelatin used in recipes.

  • @jesscorbin5981

    @jesscorbin5981

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I will be looking more carefully for it, in other stores as well. Thank you!

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @jesscorbin5981
    @jesscorbin5981 Жыл бұрын

    Can I substitute bleach for calcium hypochlorite?

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    Жыл бұрын

    no. keep the sulfuric acid step in mind. you would precipitate calcium sulfate alongside the product and besides that the reaction would be very unclean. you can use potassium hypochlorite if you don´t have sodium hypochlorite

  • @jesscorbin5981

    @jesscorbin5981

    Жыл бұрын

    Forbidden beer! XD

  • @koukouzee2923
    @koukouzee29232 жыл бұрын

    I dont have the tools to test my bleach Is it okay to use excess bleach ?

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    It would produce chlorine gas but it would work. Only do this if you know what you are doing.

  • @koukouzee2923

    @koukouzee2923

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@THYZOID thank you so much

  • @THYZOID

    @THYZOID

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Have fun then

  • @YouMockMe
    @YouMockMe2 жыл бұрын

    Totally cool hahahahaha

  • @JGHFunRun
    @JGHFunRun9 ай бұрын

    Aww dang bro why didn't you say it's dangerous sooner, I've already inhaled 50 grams of homemade hydrazine

  • @prestonhanson501
    @prestonhanson501 Жыл бұрын

    Just use a 200ml beaker

  • @nichaen-9902
    @nichaen-99022 жыл бұрын

    dein yield wäre höher hättest du EDTA anstatt Gelatine used als catalyst, hatte bei meiner ersten Synthese 85% yieldd

  • @chlorhendl4304

    @chlorhendl4304

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hallo Pyrochems:)

  • @nichaen-9902

    @nichaen-9902

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chlorhendl4304 Lügenlord

  • @chlorhendl4304

    @chlorhendl4304

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nichaen-9902 Meddl Leude

  • @ihbarddx
    @ihbarddx Жыл бұрын

    Waste disposal, please!

  • @NoName-kn3de
    @NoName-kn3de Жыл бұрын

    HIND version hota behottor hota

  • @wissen5410
    @wissen5410 Жыл бұрын

    To Late

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