Kratz was so uncomfortable when the host asked about the DNA and fingerprint on the car...

@j.goebbels2134

2 жыл бұрын

Some clever jump cutting to fool a bunch of TV-watching zombie weirdos does not a conviction overturn.

@Alfakkin

2 жыл бұрын

He was...I don't trust him

@TheHoff4K

4 ай бұрын

@@j.goebbels2134 There was no cleaver jump cutting there. It was all one take and the reason he acts like that is because it was a good question only now is trying to be solved. Zellner is trying to get finger prints. As for Kratz sweat DNA, Zellner claim with expert backing is they had his DNA sample still from the hospital they never threw away as claimed. They took DNA from his ball sweat and then claimed they don't have a warrant for it and tossed it but not what is in the hospital records. So that would show the amount of DNA the prosecutors expert claimed, since the hood swap was in Colborn had it and never signed his name when giving it up and since no record his ball sweat DNA was thrown away it is suggesting those were swapped. They told Brendan all key pieces of evidence they found and he did not tell them anything right of the bat that said he was involved or knew. Brendan passed the polygraph test. None of Brendan's DNA was ever found anywhere. Teresa's DNA was found on a bullet and in her car. But the bullet DNA was no blood how does that happen? Where is all of this blood? If she was screaming for help and handcuffed why no DNA on the cuffs or marks on the bed posts? If the key was shaken lose how come the stand it was shanken from had coins and things on it that never fell?

@Turtlefarm

2 ай бұрын

Yep… even his voice is dishonest… is a snake… he knows that police force is crooked… yet keeps his mouth shut… he is a Demonic monster

Whether he did it or not, the case should have been thrown out the second the sheriffs dept got involved. Conflict of interests.

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

No, people who are monsters should never get a slide when they have done the heinous things avery has done, the monster should be dipped in oil and thrown in a fire pit just like he did to innocent and defenseless animals and worse to Human beings!

@topcomment3816

4 жыл бұрын

fairyamma Stfu Karen

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

@John Price Price The ONLY conflict of interest, in this case, is the 2 females that made mom and the people that have bought into the litany of lies and chosen biased content!

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

@Scott Doty Hey Scott, great point man. No doubt that would be another story! LE would be their first phone call, before pissing and moaning to every Tom, Dick, and Harry they know in an effort to get them and anyone else they know of, onboard to hate avery!

@Reneebenson

4 жыл бұрын

If they wouldn’t arrest for something once why wouldn’t they do it again

Kratz makes me want to vomit.

@Kyomiibrown

6 жыл бұрын

Belle's Mom Me too. His sexting shows what a creep he is.

@shane-irish

6 жыл бұрын

Belle's Mom all loud americans make me sick

@achildr1

5 жыл бұрын

Kratz is filth.

@melaniefeltner2919

5 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@mandycote3652

5 жыл бұрын

...when God sees any of us right in His sight that doesn't require repenting cast the first stone otherwise you are NO less guilty than who YOU think is!!!

So he called her, admitted she was there, other people knew she was there, but he killed her before getting his money. Then was clever enough to disposed of blood evidence, but had scattered bone fragments in the burn pit. Burned her cell phone, purse and other items in a burn barrel, but left the key on the floor, and then half assed covered her vehicle in his scrap yard. Not a bit of this makes sense

@erickasantos1577

5 жыл бұрын

yes he called her and blocked his number.!!!yes her company knew she was heading over to his house that was part of her job! yes he burned her body in his fire pit the night he killed her that was after he probley raped her.... Her phone was found somewhere else phone record show it binged off some place else. So he probley took her phone and dumped it to confuse people. car was seen some place else by a witness not far from his house. Iam thinking he was going to move her car of his lot I believe something went wrong so he put it back on his property!! just like somebody like you would think why would he kill her& leave the car??????? He didn't crush her car because that would probley prove he had something to do with it. whoelse would use his crusher without somebody hearing the loud noise right..m??? It makes a lot of sense.

@erickasantos1577

5 жыл бұрын

Chet oliver

@pjduff7577

3 жыл бұрын

@@erickasantos1577 so what your saying is he chose not to crush the car destroying any evidence because using a crusher on a salvage yard would be to suspicious, but instead chose to try and hide the car with a couple of branches hoping they wouldnt see it in a possible search , possibly the dumbest theory ever

@7sevenseven74

2 жыл бұрын

Steven dont come across a guy who would think all of this through thoroughly, no offence to SA of course. It was all thought through to pin SA. All I know is SA got wrongfully imprisoned, so he wanted $36 million but the insurance wouldn't cover the state so they framed him to not pay that much, simples... The state, police and blind ppl who cant see this case for what it is, a shambles, have failed Teresa. How do they sleep at night. Someone knew if an innocent man goes through the justice system with all these evidence pointing at him, he will never come out.

@Cryformeshaftlicker

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it does it’s because he’s an idiot. Much like yourself and all the others who believe he is not guilty lmfaooooo

Whether or not he's guilty the law failed the victim.

@samssb2364

5 жыл бұрын

laughinggravy2 you seem like the kind of person who judges books by their covers. Have you seen the doc. Have you?

@88feji

5 жыл бұрын

+Sonuc But you're being led by your nose by the the "documentary" ... if you bother to do research outside of the "documentary" there are a whole heap of facts they omitted from the show which points in the direction that Steven Avery is the murderer ...

@wdxb93f

5 жыл бұрын

My problem is with the police who were told by the judge to keep their hands off the case as they had a conflict of interest due to a pending lawsuit against them by Avery . This is just common sense but they ignored the advice and went gathering evidence . This indicates they don’t follow the rules and raises the question of corruption . This is unfair to both the victim and the defendant. An investigation by an outside law enforcement agency would have resulted in a case all can believe in . The current force will never to able to convince the community that they aren’t possibly corrupt.

@Stonz65

5 жыл бұрын

@laughinggravy2 u obvsly didnt watch it, cuz its all about miss halbach's murder trial

@g0i2023

5 жыл бұрын

Yep... For the second time. #FreeStevenAvery #FreeBrendanDassey

“ I don’t know if he left finger prints, I don’t have the case file”. Says the fucking prosecutor 😂

Kratz" I don't have the case file" WHAT???

@sandralaing8688

3 жыл бұрын

You dont need one..just make things up as you go along

@j.goebbels2134

2 жыл бұрын

"...in font of me this very minute."

At minimum this is the worst police work ever! Lmao

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

At the minimum this is the worst case of exposing how downright ignorant and stupid people are, EVER! Thank God trials do NOT allow what people fabricate, try to fit, speculate and think.......it takes hardcore evidence and proof, which is exactly what convicted and found avery guilty of this heinous murder, he is a monster end of story!!!

@enricobarone1065

4 жыл бұрын

@@tauntasmom how more ignorant can you go? hardcore evidence and proof? Where? you might ne a simple brainless Trumpian sheep right?

@ambikarana1252

3 жыл бұрын

@Wilson That said DNA that obtained from his Sweat. Let me tell you.. You can't get dna through sweat. It is also proven by the experts.

@haydeeperez8279

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@amberc2190

3 жыл бұрын

@@ambikarana1252 touch DNA, ya mean? Which is 20000 percent real lol that’s what was on the hood latch. Not sweat.

Nancy Grace. How many people have you wrongfully imprisoned?

@davidhunt8456

5 жыл бұрын

I hate that witch

@cuppatae834

5 жыл бұрын

Scott Peterson

@deliuslyndon8340

5 жыл бұрын

why do people put her on television?

@sexobscura

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing Grace

@noeleen5250

4 жыл бұрын

Nancy is a frustrated EX prosecutor who' couldn't beat a traffic ticket in a Court Room. Sad bitch

did they ever find another set of keys that had her house key and/or any other keys? How many people just keep a single key like that on a key ring?

@SourPatchPuss

7 жыл бұрын

Tami Fowler I was wondering the same thing. And Jerry Buting brought up a great point... he said if you look at the mill marks on that key you can see its a newer copy not one thats been used over and over and worn in. And like you said how is only Stevens DNA on it? He would've touched it a few times maybe if he did do this crime? How many times over and over would Theresa have touched that thing? AND NOOOO DNA????? Coooome on!

@lore691

6 жыл бұрын

Tami Fowler this is a very good point, never thought of that!

@Farfignewton29

6 жыл бұрын

If you look at the shape of the top of the key (the part that you actually hold onto the key with) you will notice that the key is not an ignition key. If you do a search for a 1999 Toyota Rav4 ignition key you will see that the key is actually a square shape on top, contrary to the shape of the key supposedly found on the seventh day by investigators. Yet another load of bullshit tied to more bullshit evidence by a bullshit set of investigators.

@michaelahoffman2211

5 жыл бұрын

TAMI F - I only have two keys on my car keyring. Ignition and gas cap key. My father (a mechanic) taught me that too much weight on my key ring can damage the ignition switch. Also, I learned in a self-defense class to keep house and car keys on separate keyrings.

@jennreeves6585

5 жыл бұрын

It was a secondary key at that

If the key was planted by the police you've got to wonder how they got it in the first place and what really happened to Theresa

@joshdarius5995

Жыл бұрын

Sure the Pi e killed her, you voted for Biden 👍

@suburbantrapqueen3244

Жыл бұрын

Right?! 💭

@Bsquaredplus2

7 ай бұрын

I believe it was the spare key

@Sitdown570

6 ай бұрын

They searched her home and took items from there

@shanecarless4671

2 ай бұрын

@@Bsquaredplus2 Could have been any RAV4 1999 key. Looked brand new. No evidence to prove it opened that RAV4. Just have to take Madison (Prosecutors)Crime Labs word for it

"Did they look for fingerprints?" "I don't know" You what!?

@LJ-zr2vp

4 жыл бұрын

and they never used luminol to look for the presence of blood in the bedroom where dassy states they butchered her or in the garage where they shot her apparently... it was such a bad investigation

@kimokeeks1615

4 жыл бұрын

No besides they said his tight her in his bed and sexually assaulted her while there was no evidence of DNA, fingerprints, blood, hair in his bed. They said they killed her in garage but there was no evidence of blood even in the cracks, this was a big SCAM of Wisconsin criminal justice.

@justinfarmer1894

4 жыл бұрын

Just like everyone else in the entire show they dont know. Typical crook as always an sounds like a girl as well.

@Falcodevienna

4 жыл бұрын

„I do not have the case file“ 😅 Such a lowlife

@kathleenmitchell1582

4 жыл бұрын

@@Falcodevienna Yeah, there's blood from a cut finger but no fingerprints! Since when can you leave blood (no gloves) but not leave fingerprints? The trouble with Ken Krapz is that he thinks he is smarter than everyone else. He's not - you can tell he's lying when he says he doesn't have the case file. Even the reporter didn't believe him.

My biggest issue is... Where was the Coroner? In a homicide she is the ranking officer over the Sheriff, yet she was told to stay out of it or be arrested. That there should have been enough to show the beginning of some sort of conspiracy. Not to mention, the county was about to lose their shirts in the $36 million law suit; they should NEVER have been investigating that crime it was personal, a conflict of interest. The state police should have been called in to investigate. This way, I believe, there would have been an honest approach. Brendan, at this point, may never have been interrogated just interviewed, if spoken to at all.

@kathleenmitchell1582

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. She quit her job over this case. Why didn't they get an outside coroner to the scene when they found the bones? You don't just dig up a sight with a shovel or a backhoe. So bogus of the cops.

@velvetlashvan2769

4 жыл бұрын

Giovanni Losito 1 check out part two they talk about how she was not contacted when the department found bones and she wasn’t threatened not to stick her nose into things

@LJ-zr2vp

4 жыл бұрын

and they never used luminol to look for the presence of blood in the bedroom where dassy states they butchered her or in the garage where they shot her apparently... it was such a bad investigation this would have proven or disproven dassys confession and we would not be talking about this now

@imverymary

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you totally!

@Heaven-dy9lj

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. This amongst the other anomalies, sits on top of the pile.

sweat dna on the hood? there's no such thing. it's just called DNA. Why was Teresa's DNA not on her own key? but Steven's was? give me a break.

@mamamarianovits9029

6 жыл бұрын

Com3atmebra Is it possible that they meant to suggest that it was transfer DNA.? I am no expert, it's simply a curiosity on my part.

@scandisnowgirl3696

5 жыл бұрын

The only explanation for her dna not being on her own key but his was is that it was cleaned before coming into his home.

@mamamarianovits9029

5 жыл бұрын

Scandi Snowgirl To be fair, there is yet another explanation my dear.... If it were a key that had been cut that was not in Theresa's possession. The crime lab had a key cut to get onto, and move, the rav4 after its discovery on the Avery land. It is possible that the this was the cut key, planted after depositing Steven Averys DNA on it. I'm am not suggesting this is fact, just offering a possibility.😊

@scandisnowgirl3696

5 жыл бұрын

Mama Marianovits my point still stands though. That key was clean before it entered his home. It could not have been a normal scenario of being in Theresa’s possession before ending up there.

@jerryslivka6423

5 жыл бұрын

I agree about the key, a fob made of material and that she owned for years, how is her dna not found but Steven's and ONLY Steven's is?? Impossible..

I love how Kratz constantly uses hyperbole to discuss the amount of evidence that was left of the documentary. Yet here he just talks about this sweat DNA that isn't a real thing and the 3 phone calls. But apparently that is a MOUNTAIN of evidence. Give me a break..

@sunnysideblusky435

5 жыл бұрын

He looks hella nervously awkward within ...ya kno y bcoz he knows this is all a sham hes apart of... Disgusting.

@dewalt4598

5 жыл бұрын

He said DNA from the sweat of him . Not sweat DNA

@kathleenmitchell1582

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you so right. He keeps saying that about how they left out evidence and he never talks about what was left out. Tell us if it's so darn important. What's happened here is that Krapz (misspelling is intentional) keeps repeating the same story that by now he really believes it to be true. He is f-ing delusional. Just saying.

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

@@sunnysideblusky435 you see only what you want to see, I absolutely do NOT see where is a anything but honest and upfront!

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

@@kathleenmitchell1582 Here's the problem and it is a HUGE one at that.......there was evidence and it convicted a sick disgusting rapist, torturer, and cremator, perhaps you are the one who did not see the evidence that was NOT left out. THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT UMMMM KAY!

"they may have... I, I, ....I don't have the case file" ...........LMAO! DAn Harris asking the blunt and sensible questions making Kratz's theory sound stupid. Love it!

@cnsmooth

8 жыл бұрын

he wasnt there though, and the guy is asking him TEN years after the court case. You really expect him to remember everything.

@GBAmerica1781

5 жыл бұрын

@@cnsmooth Sure you can, since he keeps inserting himself into the public eye about the case.

@myusernamerocks3

5 жыл бұрын

Why does it matter? They have his DNA. You realize he could easily have worn gloves right?

@g0i2023

5 жыл бұрын

@@GBAmerica1781 Ikr XD and writing books to add to his fantastical collection of porn for future use in terrorising abuse victims. Wonder if Penny Bernstein regrets being on the victims' assistance board with Kratz as much as she says she regrets accusing Steven Avery of attacking her in 1985, effectively destroying his chance to raise his own kids and help his parents with the family business. 🤔💔

@michaela9967

4 жыл бұрын

@@cnsmooth hahaha he literally wrote a book about that case ....

Problem is that the police clearly planted some evidence. This means if they planted some evidence any evidence left out is irrelevant because it also has to be assumed to be tainted.

@88feji

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know how the police could have planted the car in his compound .. its too big of a thing to sneak into his place. And why would the police plant the key in the last minute when the whole car is already found in his place ?? There are already so much evidence against SA (phone records, plenty of eye witnesses of the goings on in his compound etc), why would adding a key be such a big deal that they die die have to add into the long list of evidence against him ? The key being found will not make a difference since the car is already there, at most its just a corroborating evidence but hardly a significant new evidence by itself ...

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

There is NO proof anyone planted anything, it is speculation, by the same ignorant people who speculate avery is innocent. The evidence by both the prosecution and defense proved avery committed this most heinous slaughter of TH he is right where he belongs!

@jimmyclimer594

4 жыл бұрын

@@tauntasmom you do realize on that site they have a car crusher? Why leave it with just light twigs and plywood concealing it when you could crush it and place it in a stack of cars?

@Extraterrestrialhighway

3 жыл бұрын

Except there are literally pictures of the same exact spot the key was found in his bedroom before it was found and there was no key there.

@blackstallion21487

3 жыл бұрын

@@88feji they hardly went to the back of the junk yard did you not watch the police r dirty and I hope they get what’s coming to them

Kratz looks like he is tweaking.

@belmum1689

5 жыл бұрын

Its better than being a murderer.

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

@@riverdeep399Smith you can call him all of the names you want it does not make him a murderer like avery is PERIOD!

This case disgust me. This corruption will go as far as using a young kid to put Steven Avery in prison because he's found innocent and sueing the county.

Let’s look at the evidence not left out The day planner, bottom left hand corner, Teresa’s handwriting? Information from a phone called she received at 12:44 pm on oct 31, 2005. How did this leave her hands and get into the hands of the searchers?

When that composite "artist" tried to wiggle out of what he did, the lawyer SHOULD have said, when the so-called artist said, "My drawing looks more like Steven Avery than Gregory Allen," the lawyer should have pointed out that what's way more interesting is that it didn't look like Stephen Avery as he looked at the time of the attack, it looked like Stephen Avery in the picture the sheriff's office had from back in (whenever that picture was taken). How did THAT happen???? Only one way I can think of!

If he was framed.. at least 50 people would have to be involved in murdering and cover up and keeping quiet. It did not happen. Tons of evidence of guilt

@fugeeman1417

2 жыл бұрын

False, That number is absurd. 2-5 tops. Once the evidence is found planted or not the bias of the state agents is clear as crystal. They made him into a murderer.

When will people start learning to never speak to police without an attorney present?

@johnnyquest9519

2 жыл бұрын

@@JetPackDino It’s a big mess

the only reason the key was not found the previous 6 searches because it fell out of the back of the book shelf on the 7th?? I would like to know what sort of searches they do!! I always thought a search was a thorough search of everything in the room/house!! They did this 7 times?? Did the police keep sending the person back to the house saying "look again"!! the key is there!!! look again!!!!

I didn’t understand why the jurors came up with their verdict - (beyond reasonable doubt) until I saw the evidence that was left out.

@kimmyfreak200

Жыл бұрын

same with paradise lost...the wm3 did it

Even if it were a one sided documentary, that's enough for me to develop a reasonable doubt.

@dong9514

7 жыл бұрын

That was the purpose, to tell a one sided story to create reasonable doubt.

@manilovetofly1296

7 жыл бұрын

+don gIt was one sided because one side did it, the other didn't. BTW, there was no narration to lead the audience. I know editing is a powerful tool, but they needed no editing to show Ken Kratz and Len Kachinsky are lying, malicious sob's. Also- whenever any officer was questioned on the stand, you know they would have failed a lie detector test. They were squirming in the box, being as evasive as possible. You don't need a machine to see they were attempting to hide the truth.

@madikwechef

7 жыл бұрын

They didn't tell anything... You can watch the trail by itself... Whether he is guilty or not does not matter... Not only is there reasonable doubt here, there is much doubt.

@cnsmooth

6 жыл бұрын

Norm you're dumb then. Lol . How can you say even if everything I know about this is based on lies, there is still reasonable doubt lol

@cnsmooth

6 жыл бұрын

Man I love to Fly lol you know the testimony of the officer on the stand you mention was edited and spliced to have him answer questions he never did in real life. You see how you were lead to believe he was a liar

none of this was left out if the documentary.

@MOO67204

2 жыл бұрын

Slow pony slow

"That would mean he's pretty stupid." "Okay." 😂

@l337pwnage

4 жыл бұрын

I would hope nobody thinks he is smarter than the average toaster.

There was a lot of evidence that proved he was framed. So many! They just didn’t want to pay 38 million dollars. Her boyfriend should’ve been looked at and also the man she lived with. It’s obvious they’re leading Averys nephew. Why was he convicted? Jurors went into the case already convicting him since day one. The cops were proved to be doing wrong things and still they trusted the police department. The police department that had already wrongfully convicted him, knowing they were wrongfully convicting him. How could they trust that police department? How could they be like “that cop makes sense”...?

@lisarojas5423

8 ай бұрын

Because they are bootlickers.

This is insane. Had Avery done this horrible deed , anyone that is not suffering from brain rot would realize Avery had access to a car crusher and a smelt right there on the property. He would have placed Teresa's body in the Rav4 and then used the fork lift to place the Rav4 into the crusher and demolish it and then use the fork lift to place the Rav4 with Teresa's body in it , into the smelt to totally destroy any evidence.. Can anyone think of any possible sane reason Avery wouldn't have crushed and smelted the car and her body ? There is no way a man that is about to become very wealthy would risk his freedom to do such a horrible deed. You could even see in his first interview while He was in Crivitz that Avery was completely baffled and taken aback about the events being explained to him. It's also pretty obvious the Manitowoc Sheriffs dept. had a tap put on Avery's phone long before they were gave permission by the court to do so. That is how someone knew Halbach would be at Avery's the day that she was there and took sick advantage of that knowledge.

@Verisetti

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly they just didn't want to lose that $$$ to him.

@sunnysideblusky435

5 жыл бұрын

Boom!!...omggg. U R sooo riiight. On so many levels.

@johnpatrick3458

5 жыл бұрын

@rj doggman You're incorrect. He settled out of court for $400,000. Most of it would be paid to his lawyers.

@johnpatrick3458

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't crush it because he would of had to prep the vehicle first and that takes time (about 3-4 hours). Also his brother Earl was using the skid steer and Chuck was in the garage. He couldn't have prepped it in the garage and used the skid steer to move it to the crusher without his brothers knowing and eventually testifying that a blue rav 4 was crushed that day. He originally told his brothers that Teresa never came by, so obviously he knew his brothers would not lie for him. He also did not know whether authorities would show up right away or not. It would be damning evidence if he's in the middle of prepping the rav 4 or crushing it when the police show up. So he blends the rav 4 with other junked cars, keeps the key and waits for the heat to turn down so that he can prep and crush it or just dump it somewhere at a safer time. A safer time would be a time where his brothers would not be around and definitely not while there is an active search being conducted for Teresa.

@pinkpugginz

5 жыл бұрын

Because he thought he was untouchable and that nothing would ever happen to him due to the exoneration.

What one of the 2 directors really meant to say is that they wanted to ask rhetorical questions because our judicial system is beyond fractured and needs a major overhaul.

They weren't looking for fingerprints on the car??? My car got stolen and they believed the person that stole it may have been responsible for a stabbing murder one street away on the same night. Our car was recovered and there was not one square inch of that car that did not have finger print dust on it when I got it back!!

This Steven Avery guy is not perfect by any means, he put a cat ALIVE, in a bag, poured gasoline onto it, then threw the cat in a fire. You tell me if that's an innocent mans behavior.

@yantian5535

Жыл бұрын

we are here not to judge Avery's character but trying to find the truth so the victim can rest in peace. Animal abuse in the past does not define he is the killer. There is not even one drop of blood in the crime scenes, but two people were put in prison. WTF!

"It would be impossible for us to include all the evidence...and it's a coincidence that the evidence we didn't just happened to be the stuff we couldn't find a way to cast doubt on."

you can't get DNA from sweat

@mattydigs

8 жыл бұрын

+Christopher Leeson The dna comes from skin cells transferred by sweat. Don't be dumb.

@cwwiss1

8 жыл бұрын

+Mattydigs Averys there are more skin cells in dust than sweat. Police could have easily transferred it to the vehicle from the bedroom carpet .

@manilovetofly1296

7 жыл бұрын

+Christopher Leeson Or dirty tighty whities. That might also explain the "sweat" DNA. Ew! I'll let you handle that evidence.

The funny thing is that Ken Kratz is always stuttering when questions are asked about why certain things werent looked at? He never has a correct answer and he always avoid answering questions.

@kathleenmitchell1582

4 жыл бұрын

That would be because he is lying. Another thing he does when he can't give a straight answer is deflect and change the subject.

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

Ken Kratz did just fine!!!!!

@plaguelover71

3 жыл бұрын

@@tauntasmom yes you are Ken kratz

I love the "he would have to be really stupid line". yeah he does seem pretty dumb.

So making phone calls makes Avery a murderer but, Theresa’s brother and ex boyfriend hacked into her phone and deleted messages isn’t even looked into or thoroughly questioned...right...

Manitowoc County officials and local law enforcement HATED the Avery family for many years, even BEFORE Steven rightly won a $36,000,000.00 lawsuit, which basically exposed them for their ineptness and corruption. Hmmm, do you think that quelled their HATRED toward them??? No, of course not! What it actually did was cause them to become so incredibly ANGRY, so UNHINGED, so DESPERATE that THEY would do ANYTHING, to extinguish the HATEFUL fire that burned inside of them for so many years (especially now since they just got a huge slap in the face that cost them $36,000,000.00!!!) ...INCLUDING waiting for the next OPPORTUNITY to MURDER someone and FRAME Steven for it, which will now allow them to recover some of their lost credibility and also SAVE THEM $36,000,000.00!!!...talk about MOTIVE. Since they have been watching Steven and his family like hawks, OPPORTUNITY did come shortly when Teresa Halbach visited their property to photograph Steven's sisters car. This theory is not far fetched at all, and actually seeing who we are dealing with here it makes absolute sense. I truly believe that one day someone will talk, or evidence will turn up in some way, shape, or form linking Teresa's murder DIRECTLY to Wisconsin law enforcement. BTW, the investigators who COERCED a confession from Brendan are truly pathetic and disgusting. Anyone who has eyes and ears could EASILY recognize what they were doing. They should be ashamed of themselves. I didn't believe what I was seeing and hearing. Brendan and Steven were FRAMED!!!

Awesome documentary!!! Thank God for people like you~

When avery got a magazine from her, she was sitting in the car. If there really was "Sweat DNA Evidence" on the car, he could have touched it during that time. THEN, she left. Bobby followed her to go "hunting" possibly. Or maybe her ex boyfriend did it. They didnt seem to take a good look at those possibilities.

@AprilSilvers-py4zj

10 ай бұрын

I suppose you believe he wasn't curious at all that someone, if not him, was burning alot of stuff right outside his home?

no such thing as "Sweat DNA"

You can always tell when Kratz is lying,he’s lips move.

@Sidneyyoungblood75

3 жыл бұрын

He trained with Hilary Clinton

the ex boyfriend of theresa and andrew colborn plus theresa's cousin are VERY suspicious!!

@americancrimejournal

3 жыл бұрын

I think you and Avery are very suspicious

@hatersgotohell627

3 жыл бұрын

Here's the problem with that. If the ex did it , then you have to believe that the law enforcement set it up and the ex did it since there's avery's dna, and blood in the Rav4 and the key in his house, and the ashes in his fire pit etc. It's much more likely that Avery did it.

They definitely mentioned this evidence in the documentary, I specifically remember it

One of the biggest things that absolutely baffles me about Steven Avery's first case is that the Police did not investigate any other leads from the get go just like his false imprisonment case, including a former ex boyfriend with no alibi and open access to the crime scene, Bobby Dassey with violent death porn addiciton and access to murder and Scott Tadych who also had access and gave the weirdest recollection of events. Beyond reasonable doubt smh. Kenn Kratz life went to hell after this, Scott Tadych had unreasonable hatred towards Steven during post conviction, Bobby Dassey gave a very guilty reaction when Zellners team quizzed him about his harddrive.

@MX-CO

Жыл бұрын

All that and More Bobby dassey left to go hunting right after she left, and he changed his story many times

@millicentmusselwhite5669

Жыл бұрын

His innocent everybody pray that GOD exposes those who are involved.

@johnlabry325

Жыл бұрын

That’s the issue. Instead of looking at other people. They instantly knew it was Avery. It’s such bs.

@skelter1153

Жыл бұрын

Hey! you can speculate and make reasonable assumptions and voice your educated opinion as much as you like but watch what you say about violent death porn... ok?! That's hardly fair, throwing an entire Artistic Genre under the Bus like that!

I feel so bad that the family is uneducated. I wish the lawyers involved would have told him that if the police ever ask to search anything of any of yours, the answer is always NO! Because they will be out to get you!

The biggest 'he didn't do it' for me, is the fact his and her blood isn't mixed in the car... The blood was so BLATENTLY planted it's unreal... There's no way they did it.

I’m not sure if he is guilty or not, but I’d love to know why he called her (using *67) before her death & then dialed her phone (revealing his number) afterwards.

@joshdarius5995

Жыл бұрын

Cause he is a moronic killer?

Kratz admits that the case is based on circumstancetual evidence at one point,so what ever happened to beyond reasonable doubt to be found guilty?

I can’t believe that Kratz is really sitting here, with all the hidden evidence knowing very well how Steven was framed, and still having the audacity to say that he is the killer. Mind blowing

@j.goebbels2134

2 жыл бұрын

Framed? By someone who waited for Avery to call Halbach out, then grabbed her leaving, killed her, burned her and brought her and her SUV back and then pulled off the most massive placement of evidence on someone else's private property ever? Drink/smoke much?

Halbach was the only photographer for the Auto Trader and there is nothing at all suspicious about Steven calling Teresa to confirm time she is coming.

@88feji

5 жыл бұрын

How can you not be suspicious that he used private number to call before she came but later after her supposed death he purposefully called her phone without private number ... its quite suspicious that he's manipulating the phone records for some purposes to hide his identity and to create an excuse pretending he "had no idea" she's dead by calling her phone right after her supposed death time ...

@TheAmateurEditor

4 жыл бұрын

@@88feji If he were trying to pretend why would he need to remove caller ID? At the end of the day, if he did do it, he would know the cops would come to him eventually and all he had to do was show them his phone with his outgoing calls. He gains nothing by removing the caller ID, if anything, it makes him look more suspicious. Maybe he enabled his number to be recognised so that she would see it, recognise it and either answer or call him back, after being late and not answering it so many times. For every 'suspicious' inference that can be drawn, there is an equal and often greater 'innocent' inference that can directly counter it.

@SandraMontano-si3uf

3 жыл бұрын

Just a guilty pig faced Naxi---

@jsimmons9969

3 жыл бұрын

It is when he blocked his number, called as his sister Barb, calls back unblocked to say she didn't show up. He later told people that she was there and left.

@deanobannon842

2 жыл бұрын

Right and using *67

They went through his house how many times without him or his family having access to it? It is easy to get some dirty laundry that has the remains of sweat or skin and just rub it off on the car, right? Can DNA evidence be manufactured in that way? Please correct me if I am wrong, but it came to mind and I am wondering about this.

Kratz reminds me of a slug

He somehow left DNA everywhere but no fingerprints. Kratz is evil

Kratz digging a deeper hole for himself

@7sevenseven74

2 жыл бұрын

Deviant kratz

You can call the documentary misleading all you want but if it's even partially or generally true that's still a huge huge problem

I would be extremely surprised if he was guilty. But guilty or not the police tamper with evidence. I thought it was a great documentary, can't wait for season two.

@miker.9138

6 жыл бұрын

Medusa Chai A great documentary isn't one in which the filmmakers purposely leave out any incriminating evidence that they can't cast doubt on. For instance, human bone fragments were found in the burn pit, and some if the victim's possessions were found in a barrel just steps away from Avery's front door.

@patricklevens777

6 жыл бұрын

Mike R. Can be planted. It was out side any one could have put it there. I don't know if he is guilty or not but I watched that so called confession from his nephew and saw them lead him to get the answers they wanted it was definitely a bad "confession" they practically told him what to say.

@miker.9138

6 жыл бұрын

Patrick Levens And maybe a wizard did it. p.s. I also forgot to menti4the fact the a bullet that was linked to a gun he owned was found with the victim's DNA on it, the fact that he once told a fellow prisoner that he wanted to have a rape dungeon, and the fact that he was once convicted of burning a cat alive. Oh, and his nephew accused him of sexual abuse.

@hydranim7325

6 жыл бұрын

If you would kill someone, would you be stupid enough to burry the bones in front of your house? What about the keys which misteriously appeared next to the bed after a few weeks? This was framed.

@jerryjamify

6 жыл бұрын

Medusa Chai cops tamperd with a lot of stuff in this case.

Lmao they said they didn't have good DNA tests back at that time and all of a sudden they find sweat lmao.

Avery is guilty as the day is long. The whole Avery family is a creepy bunch.

LET THOSE MEN OIUT!!! N LOCK UP KRATZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My questions are around the facts that the garage had been cleaned soooo well to get rid of "blood evidence, why is the car, blood in the car, and bone found on his property

@suzyhill802

11 ай бұрын

Exactly! Half a job! Makes no sense! And that he "hid it" on his own land!!!! Too much inconsistency in 'covering up'.,

He'd been calling her and had requested her. Once she had indicated that Steven was making her uncomfortable that he'd been inappropriate ; answering the door in a towel where he also tried to get her to come in, ; coupled with calling , insisting on HER being sent to do the Auto Trader ad using a different phone number to get the phone answered. Finally he said that his sister wanted her to come to sell his sisters car and wanted a full page, upgraded, more expensive ad. The Averys' had not being buying the more expensive ad. Terresa was known around town and was a pleasant hard worker who was known to be saving money. Terresa was saving money , for her wedding and honeymoon planned soon. Dispatch had told her she didn't have to go however there was no one else available to go and hesitant, dedicated and lured. by the opportunity to make more money she. Agreed to pop in and out in 15 min.; Checking in with dispatch upon getting to the Avery's junk yard and trailer homes. The company also had another job appt. After for her near. by too. As the Averys' yard was 40 acres with two trailer homes and its own private Avery Road with drive she headed out . When she got to Avery Road she called dispatch and let them know she'd be photographing quickly as leave for the next appt. Terresa indicated she saw Steven by his doorway and she started photographing which was seen by Brenden Dassey and his bus driver as he was left off from school.. The driver saw Brenden go to his door as usual . As she was leaving she noticed that Terresa had stopped photographing and was walking to Steven by his door. The driver left. Meantime as Brenden was headed to his door, his brother Bobby was looking out and saw Terresa photographing and headed to the door. He also saw Brenden and as Bobby Dassey was leaving to go hunting he saw his brother eating a snack and settling down to play video games. Bobby then left. Terresa did not leave and to her next appointment. A neighbor later noticed an unusually high and hot therefore bon fire behind Averys' barn. He was accross the field on the county road passing in his truck behind the barn. He noticed because the Avery's didn't burn. Often and never had he seen a fire so high there in the burn area. He gazed over to make sure the barn wasn't on fire and saw Avery . He also noticed the fire went to on and on which was unusual too. Later Terresa bone fragments were found there and near there plus get other possessions. Eventually her wood / limb covered Rav 4 .was found. It was obvious by the. Way the wood was around it was placed to hide the vehicle . Days later Brenden confessed and implicated Steven. and himself.

@kylienutt9844

2 жыл бұрын

Who was she getting married to?

@jakesneed3146

Жыл бұрын

You can’t burn a body to ashes in an open fire pit like that. It doesn’t direct the heat to the body to burn it to ash. You’d have to have the body in a small metal container like a barrel. That’s not opinion. That’s fact

@milart12

Жыл бұрын

@@jakesneed3146 It is not a fact; it's an opinion. If Avery did not burn the body, how and where did the "real" killer burn the body?

@suzyhill802

11 ай бұрын

If there had been a professional investigation with cordononing of the crime scene from the get go, experts bought to the scene/forensics, all venues amd *suspects* investigated, interviewed and illuminated etc etc (as in a proper job),... maybe we would all know that now? But because there was no investigation of any sort, likely we will never know the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

@suzyhill802

11 ай бұрын

Sorry for typos!

It's sad that we probably won't find out what happened to Theresa, but this case is as fishy as can be. Just the fact that according to the DA's arguments, Avery did horrible things to Theresa in his room and no DNA was found there. Do you know how meticulous you have to be to kill someone and leave no evidence? And there's the fact that they didn't find a single drop of blood on the garage where he supposedly dismembered her. A garage which is full of small items and is not clean. The police just found the perfect scapegoat because the lawsuit was coming.

@suzyhill802

11 ай бұрын

Yep. This is why I absolutely do not believe she was killed in Stevens trailer or the garage. Surely it would be impossible to clean up to that extent? Especially if you believe Brenda's version of Theresa being brutally raped in the bedroom. There would be all manor of evidence/dna. I just can not believe they would have the ability to clean every single drop of blood or hair. So for me, its a no brainer that Brendans story was a false one. She was killed elsewhere.

I hate that horrible woman at beginning. The one who always pops up when huge cases make the news

@Dilbravishlah

8 жыл бұрын

+ahhhhEEEJaycity Nancy Grace? The rest of the World does too. You know, rumor has it that Nancy Grace herself was the one that was supposed to be shackled, raped, and then shot in the head instead. Pity.

@belmum1689

5 жыл бұрын

I dislike Nancy too and I am Australian, but I don't wish her or anyone of that matter to be shackled, raped, and then murdered like Avery did to his victim & now I can see why alot of u idiots thinks he did nothing wrong.

"They weren´t looking for finger prints, just looking for DNA?? BS ! Krats, speak like a man.

They should have encouraged Brendan to testify against Avery. Then the assault charges (including the binding to the bed), his “confession” as to how the murder occurred (throat slitting and stabbing), etc. would have all been admitted and the soundly debunked shattering the prosecution. Video of the various interrogations of Dassey, including the vile Mike O’Kelly, would have been admitted, demonstrating Dassey’s unreliability as a witness and perhaps opening the door for an argument of coercion on the part of Manitowoc County police and DA in order to nail Avery and avoid a costly lawsuit/settlement. The prosecution won by the defense fighting Dassey‘s testifying.

Look at the closest one to the victim! It’s rare for a stranger to kill someone. The sheriffs department should have never been involved. It took seven searches and two officers from the sheriffs department to find it! It’s all a little SKETCHY guilty or not! They screwed up the trial conflict of interest. There’s plenty of reasonable doubt!

All of Kratz's BS here was thoroughly destroyed in Pt. 2 of the series.

@j.goebbels2134

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah because TV shows are such good evidence :-D

The reporter should have done his homework better so he could push back on the blatant lies. Such as there is no test that shows DNA came from sweat. That's nonsense said by the prosecutor to make the evidence seem credible as "you can't transfer sweat".

@zwergie256

8 жыл бұрын

+Savannah Lois Even that's complete bullshit, why wouldn't you be able to transfer sweat? You certainly can transfer sweat or the DNA contained in any bodily fluid. DNA is contained in cells. but he doesn't know where the DNA came from, the "sweat" is his own invention. The latch DNA could have been put there by rubbing Avery's toothbrush on it. He's a pathological liar and a sexual predator. www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=113968 (see page 35)

@Laura-iv4kd

8 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's right. What I was trying to convey was you can't plant sweat like you can blood or skin cells. The prosecutor only claimed it was sweat to prove it couldn't have been planted. It was just another fabrication by this Kratz character.

@Winstonthegoodboy

8 жыл бұрын

+Savannah Lois when he says sweat, what he is referring to is skin cells that are transferred to a surface because a person is sweating

@zwergie256

8 жыл бұрын

Vlado Adzaip No, he's not. How would he know where the cells came from? How would he know the cells came from sweat? By looking at the latch? There's no lab test which tests for sweat. He is deliberately saying sweat (which would have cells) because he wants people to believe you can't plant sweat. He has no idea where the DNA came from, sweat, saliva, dead skin or the forensic investigator's gloves - which he didn't change after touching Avery's car. Kratz is lying when he says sweat.

@Winstonthegoodboy

8 жыл бұрын

zwergie256 You are right he has no idea where the cells/DNA came from and they could have been planted as well. My point is that Kratz story at the trial (as in what he means when he says sweat) was actually that the DNA found was skin cells that were transferred to the latch by a sweating hand because (as you said) there is no test for sweat so he couldn't have argued that the lab actually found sweat.

This case is all about what's missing.....Not so much what the documentary missed out, but the fact there is no actual evidence where it should be abundant; why is there no blood splatter in the garage, why is there no blood on the bullet, why is there no DNA on the bed where Teresa Halbach was supposedly raped and stabbed, why are there no marks on the bed where the restraints were, why is there no DNA from Teresa Halbach on the key, why is there no DNA from Teresa Halbach on the hood latch of her own car...and I could go on. The law requires that guilt is proven BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, now whether you think they did it or not, I don't see how anyone could argue that there is 0% chance that someone else could have been involved. Particularly so in the case of Brandon Dassey, where there is zero physical evidence. The family of Teresa Halbach, the accused, and the public, deserve to know the truth, and there is just too much doubt around these convictions for most people to feel completely satisfied that justice has been served.

36,000,000 Dollar's sorry but I don't believe them. At least the authorities have committed so many mistakes in the investigation it warrants a new trial at worst they're purposely going after him like the first time to save their asses. I'm on team A...

I like how they tried both of them with two different theories of the crime. Where was all the blood from this butchering that took place?

@margaret6839

6 жыл бұрын

Why didn't they plant it along with everything else, if they had her body?

He called her because he had dealt with her before. I like to deal with the same people when doing business. Steven Avery has been through an investigation and the system before. He knows what evidence is. He would know how to get rid of evidence. None of this makes sense at all. Why on earth would he murder her and then leave her charred remains in his own property? That's pretty stupid! especially for someone who knows how an investigation works.

@thetreekeeper143

5 жыл бұрын

I can think of a lot of reasons why he would kill her. Maybe sexual gratification? Maybe he is pissed for being blamed for the first murder and wanted to lash out because he thought he was smart enough to getaway with murder. Keep in mind this is the same guy who doused a live kitten with gasoline and threw it in a bonfire alive. You can even say there was no reason why he did that but I would say he is sadistic, that's a reason! Also the fact that 2 women made complaints that they were raped by him (I think one of them was his young niece) and he also told another inmate that he fantasizes about a rape dungeon. Of course he knows alittle about investigations but you have to realise, he isn't the most sharpest tool in the shed and you can't say that he knows more than the police and forensics department. He probably read somewhere that he could get away with murder by burning all the DNA away but didn't realise that forensics had improved quite abit since then.

@belmum1689

5 жыл бұрын

@@thetreekeeper143, I agree. Police sure didn't murder Teresa, than burn her body near his shitting trainer house - all just to frame him.

@tauntasmom

4 жыл бұрын

avery would do these things because he IS STUPID JUST LIKE YOU..

So if it is not Steven Avery who killed her ? Then who did ?

Where is the house key? I’ve never met someone who carries a solo car key without any other keys on the ring.

@djkurse9209

4 жыл бұрын

The Kid a ha! I knew he was innocent! What a crucial piece of the case u brought up

It was definatly to not wanting to pay him the 36 mil. It's amazing that a system can be used to frame someone and everybody know's it's framing..i mean..That is a rotten system isn't it?

@johnmccaughey2722

3 жыл бұрын

Its an eye opener, seems like evil and corruption wins in this fukked up world.

Avery is guilty of one thing. Having the most epic beard ever.

Avery requested Theresa because she had previously photographed cars, for the Avery business and she was reliable.

@djkurse9209

4 жыл бұрын

Diane M. Patterson why he come out in a towel and why she say she was freaked out by him?

my heart ache for the poor dude..America needs to get him out or forever remain guilty for failing him when the law did

It's not really relevant that some of the evidence was left out of the documentary. If the fact that the police tampered with the blood sample or only found the key to the RAV4 on their seventh search raises a reasonable doubt, then Avery should go free. It doesn't matter that there was a mountain of evidence. Reasonable doubt is reasonable doubt. There were dozens of questions explored in the documentary that raise reasonable doubt. That's not even to mention the misconduct of the police and prosecution team in this case. Does the fact that there was a mountain of evidence against Avery mean that the Constitution does not apply and that the police no longer need to conduct themselves in a manner that respects human rights and ensures that justice is done? Ken Kratz knows (or should know) all of these things. In most jurisdictions he would have faced a professional disciplinary hearing for the way he conducted the prosecution in this case. His investigation was biased and his methods were improper. He can try to explain it away by blaming the documentary all he wants, but he oversaw a travesty of justice.

@88feji

5 жыл бұрын

+Devin Maxwell Bad logic darling, think, neither the murderer nor the police would have left the key or plant it there so openly on the floor .... anyone planting evidence would have said they found it hidden somewhere instead of lying there openly on the floor, most likely the key simply fell off the place it was hidden shortly before the latest police visit and after the last visit ... AND, the police already found her big freaking car in his compound, why would they need to make another trip just to add a key to the already big collection of incriminating evidences against Avery ? Its like why would you need to add another bag of sand to a long beach already full of sand ??? Also the key contains Avery's fingerprints, its not possible for the police to get Avery's fingers to touch the key before planting it there ... unless you want to create even more ridiculous suppositions that they drugged him and made him unconscious ... hahaha ... As for the blood sample he lab technician already came out to admit that she did not properly seal the blood sample ... why would she lie to help incriminate Avery whom she know was wrongly convicted in a previous case ? Your logic oes not make sense ... I think we have to rely less on flawed instinctive human intuitions to look at the case .. there's more complexity to the case than simplistic logic ...

He didnt do it. Come on..

Avery requested her because she had taken car pictures before for Avery I believe . Calling her 3 times may have been because he wanted to get it into Autotrader because he needed to sell it ASAP to buy food or pay rent ect. I also think Avery had a crush on her so maybe he wanted just to see her not having skills with women it was maybe in his mind a date ? I have zero doubt he did not Kill her of have anything to do with her death at all ...

I am not proud to be an American, to have served this country, protecting our constitution, and securing our freedoms and rights for 25 years in the Army, anymore. This case just sickens and saddens me horribly. Presumed innocence, reasonable doubt, willingness to turn turn a blind eye to clearly planted evidence, and entirely lacking evidence in other places...it’s not properly American. We’ve lost our way. Sweat evidence under the hood is easily explained if the cops walk him over there to try to jar a confession or even taken from him and walked over on a rag or swab. The cops didn’t properly search the house the first SIX times? They removed this man from his residence and locked it down for a week or so, and people question how evidence could be planted? Already having a lawsuit against the town and police, no one thought it smart to bring in ONLY outside investigators and prosecutors? That after tons of questionnaires were looked at and only 1 person thought him innocent prior to his trial, that didn’t spur a change of venue? As to his link to the lady...he found someone that would work in his price range, or saw someone needing work and decided to be a better person to her than others had been to him so he tried to keep her employed. Then after she’s missing they pull her phone records and see his number so boom...we can take care of the lawsuit and the investigation both with 1 stone. Oh, and the cops on the hook for millions out of their pockets are also the ones that find essential evidence? Then they essentially tortured a mentally challenged man for days with little sleep, little food and water, no bathroom breaks until he gives them the confession they want using words not common to his capability or personal dictionary...but the words and sentence fragments sound a lot like questions and statements the cops made while interrogating him. This is sad. The Wisconsin Supreme Court or court of appeals should have tossed this one simply on prejudiced venue and lack of a possible fair trial. And then they should look at the evidence, including the tampered blood vial. This was way too easy and a slam dunk. Too much of a frame job. Just sad that in America you are no longer innocent until proven guilty, the cops and media hold your trial in the news while giving you no voice to combat it, that you can’t get a fair and impartial jury or judge, and really can’t get a clean investigation. Just sad days in America.

@lisarojas5423

8 ай бұрын

Well said.

#FACTS: They werent her bones. they were animals bones. they were examined and no human bones were there.

@pegatrisedmice

6 жыл бұрын

Flux Kicks citation needed?

@belmum1689

5 жыл бұрын

Please medical examiner show us the proof!

@88feji

5 жыл бұрын

+Flux Facts ? Are you sure ? What I read was that they WERE human bones ... the only uncertainty was whether it was Halbach's ... but it was human, someone died ...

Kratzpig on the ropes at 6:19 ending with lame excuse "Ummm, I don't have the case file"

@7sevenseven74

2 жыл бұрын

He should hold a press conference to say that, Deviant kratz at it again

06:01 this reporter KILLED Katz with basic questions. This is embarrassing.

Oh and Brendan's conviction overturned.

what if teresa is not dead ?

Avery was blessed to have such investigative legal counsel. They were excellent in shredding testimony from DNA expert and others.

Hiw many of you sat down and watched ALL of this case completely unedited??? I'm sure almost none of you...so you're judging this guy's innocent by hearing one side of the case...settle down people.

@margaret6839

6 жыл бұрын

I highly recommend that everyone commenting here go and watch Brendan's entire interrogation, which is available on KZread, and which paints a very different picture when seen in its entirety.

“You can’t plant sweat” lmao yeah, okay.

Season two definitely opens your eyes more on the evidence presented and more that wasn’t presented; such as Bobby Dassey’s fetish with bondage, rape, death, and beheading found on his hard drive or the fact that the RAV4 had been seen on November 3rd one day prior to being seen or “found” on the Avery property by a trucker who just so happened to run into the cop who called the plates in later that day which we seen in the first season of “MAKING A MURDERER” when asked if he was reading the plates off as if he was in front of the vehicle he denied, but this trucker coming forward definitely makes more sense of what we seen unfold. Definitely a lot of questions that need addressed, but the system yet again is failing those it was supposed to protect.

@lanestevens2755

9 ай бұрын

Just because Bobby is in to some kink don’t mean he did anything. They are perfectly normal fetishes for a teenage boy. This country is just over run by a bunch of conservative and prudish bigots.

Steven Avery is to blame for 9/11 ................

@manilovetofly1296

7 жыл бұрын

+19karl16Peter Jennings just reported that Oswald did it all by himself.

The cops without a doubt planted evidence and tampered all over this case. I also think Steve is guilty. The phone record with 2 blocked calls and then one unblocked 2 hours later is to big to ignore. The cops wanted to nail him and knew based off the phone records they wouldn't get a conviction. They would have tl have an air tight case. So they increased their odds. They should all be fired. Once this became a case the state police should of took the lead since to much conflict of interest

When they found the car partially covered up in their salvage yard that was it for me. Being a small town hero, getting freed from prison made him think he was immune to getting charged. The idiot did it.

You cant get DNA from sweat

Been watching all of these shows on netflix about cops doing this to people or cops covering for people's murder. Its sickening. I know not all cops are bad tho.

Teresa was the only photographer for entire Wisconsin state that did photographs for auto trader. She was the only one

The rape allegations, the systemic weaknesses and the local news and politics are big failures. Interviews and interrogations that build a false case are big question marks.