I've started not to use random encounter tables during the play. Instead I roll several entries from them beforehand, and then think of complications and terrain features etc. at my leisure. Then whenever I need a random encounter I just cross the first one from the list and use that. I find this easier for myself because this way I don't have to come up with everything on the spot, and have the time to add a little extra to the encounter to elevate it.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent!

@marccaron6008

2 жыл бұрын

Very good. I do the same. I call them encounter vignettes.

@koutouloufas7

2 жыл бұрын

I use random encounters with %. If my PCs are in a known environment (eg right now we play in the North of Faerun and they are from Waterdeep). If they are close to their native area i give a 5-10% for random encounter. Now that they are at Moonshea they will get a 40-50%.

@CalaveraSancho

2 жыл бұрын

This is perfect! I pre-roll a lot of content and run it this way, and it lets you refine and really consider things beforehand. Just make sure to plan for extra encounters in case some end up being nullified or end too quickly, or are inappropriate for the area.

@kaseybennett7415

Жыл бұрын

this is how tables are meant to be used, whether people know it or not

haven’t seen a single comment mention how he pronounced “wyvern” which really speaks to the quality of content he’s putting out. Tips so good they extinguish the classic nerd’s desire for pedantry

@Dyrnwyn

Жыл бұрын

Trust me, my fingers tremble from holding back.

@carigsanders3847

Жыл бұрын

@@Dyrnwyn he is awesome. and awesomely bad at pronouncing wyvern lol

@mikepearse5196

Жыл бұрын

So true

@deanlol

Жыл бұрын

Pronounce "Wyrm". Now try to pronounce "Wyvern" the way you are used to. That's probably what he is doing.

@3ndlessL00p

Жыл бұрын

I love the fact that he pronounces it two different ways too

I really like the idea of using a d6 on a longer list, and sliding on the list to adjust difficulty! That's brilliant!

@Joshuazx

2 жыл бұрын

I coincidently just started a new module within minutes of watching this video and the module happen to have this encounter table idea. I bet if I didn't see your video, I wouldn't have appreciated this idea as much.

@Enfors

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I thought so too! You could even add "distance from nearest town" (possibly divided by a suitable number) to your roll, to make it more dangerous the farther into the wild you go.

@AzraelThanatos

2 жыл бұрын

One other thing might be a progression table to the list for some random things. Taking the wolves, you might have two of them, one that lets you adjust the specifics of the wolf pack as a whole...such as modifying the creatures involved when you find them as you progress (The party is killing off the younger and weaker wolves, so you might have a dire wolf or two used as alphas, or situations where they might encounter other things connected to that particular thing such as chances that the players run into a few wolves surrounding one of their own in a trap...players could play it and influence either the wolves or the hunter in the woods into being an ally (Or both if they play it right), or find their den...and eventually end them as a major thing, and the other being other things about the wolves with what they're specifically doing such as patrolling their territory because of other predators, hunting, searching for something, and perhaps have things tied to all of those. On top of that you have the other major thing that a lot of people forget, if it is going to have a more survival based theme, well, you want to have some easily recurring events that might give or drain resources but aren't something the players would really want to fight out (A game animal that could be felled easily if they pass a few checks, a water source, some fruit/berries that they might want to take advantage of, herbs or similar...things that let different party members feel useful and can help). Quite honestly, one of the best 3rd party things for this sort of thing was the Adventures in Middle Earth books because the journey system there was awesome and had a lot of things that worked for both combat and non-combat available...

@samholden5758

2 жыл бұрын

@@Enfors Upping the die works too. You keep the easy low number encounters but add extras as the party levels up and the die increased from d4 to d6 to d8, etc.

For 2dX tables you can have the middle curve be no encounter. This keeps rare and common encounters without having such a high chance of the same ones being rolled, and makes it so they party isn't just attacked constantly when traveling.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

I hadn't considered that. That's not a terrible idea

@beaug4306

2 жыл бұрын

@@DungeonMasterpiece It's used in the Orrery of the Wanderer, the forgotten/ignored official wotc adventure. 2d10, 9-11 are no encounter. You should check out that module, it has some cool stuff in it but that entire book was kind of written off due to the art and comedic nature.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

@@beaug4306 I haven't even heard of it! Thanks for making me aware of it. I'll def check it out

@beaug4306

2 жыл бұрын

@@DungeonMasterpiece It's in the Acquisitions Incorporated book and makes of the majority of the pages. I think everyone skipped the book because of the art. I'm finding a lot to like about the module, the book in general is super under rated.

@Seelenverheizer

2 жыл бұрын

yes empty encounter is good.

Great idea about d6 on a bigger table. About the encounters..I recently discovered a method watching a livestream of Chris McDowall. You came up with 4 nouns for a location like a forest. (1. Tree 2. Leaves 3. Stream 4. Bandits) Than you make all combinations (1. Tree Leaves, 2. Tree Stream, 3. Tree bandits ... ) and come up with ideas like 1. A fallen tree on the road 2. A Treant crossing the stream 3. Bandits hiding in a tree and so on. It's a really great method.

@KazisCollection

7 ай бұрын

Love this

@ingram2617

5 ай бұрын

I've used something similar. It really helps make randomized content feel more cohesive. I usually pick 5 words for a set of encounters/a quest, then each encounter uses some combination of 3 of those words. Adds some nice themes without feeling too repetitive.

I've never used random encounter tables based on the level of the characters. I just have them based on the region and fill in creatures that would live in that kind of climate. I also never adjust them to make them challenging either. There are push over encounters, hard deadly just depends on what's rolled and the level of the characters. If I want it to be more deadly, and if fits the narrative, then I beef it up. I think this obsession with balanced encounters is really blown out of proportion.

@davidmorgan6896

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, completely agree, but I do tend to focus more on simulating an environment rather than trying to force a narrative or provide a game.

@mke3053

2 жыл бұрын

I wanna give more than one like for this comment!

@fredericleclerc9037

2 жыл бұрын

Balanced encounter is the video games logic. They video game is very limited in letting player use clever way to deal with problems. The Skyrim effect where the world level up as you do is retarded and your players never feel strong because everything get stronger. My approach is the same as yours. Also you encounter wolves... doesn't mean the wolves attack you... you encounter them. If you aren't a bunch of murder hobbos... you'll let them be.

@Giantstomp

2 жыл бұрын

@@fredericleclerc9037 It's funny. The early video game industry borrowed from what role-playing had done, even employing many of its early designers. Then as video games outpaced TTRPG their logic was applied to TTRPG as a generation raised on them became older. I love watching these younger generations of players and designers figure out what the previous one already knew. I don't say that to be mean, but as something that is interesting to watch occur.

@Jelperman

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. If a creature belongs there, I don't care how many HD it has. For example, a bear has 5+5 HD and can be encountered in temperate or sub-arctic forests. This is true whether the PCs are 1st level or 20th level.

Brilliant. In 22 years I’ve never thought of a sliding scale -not only for difficulty but for proximity. This is a …game changer (pun intended)

I've never used the 2d6 bell curve model, so I didn't realize that this was a problem that other DMs dealt with. My preference is the d12 for encounter tables (mainly because that die is so underused in the rest of the game), which I think would work for your model even though you recommended against it. When my PCs reach a certain level, I like to add a single "cakewalk" entry to the tables, representing the encounters that are too easy to challenge them, but would still be present in a given hex (i.e., bandits and wild animals) while still minimizing their probability to about 8% of the time. Generally serves as a means to let PCs cut loose and revel in their power gains. Combining that with your model, I'd use the "cakewalk" entry to collect the entries that "fall off the list". The separate Behavior and Complication tables for narrative prompts are a great idea, too. Usually I just wing it on the fly, but I end up leaning too often on a few go-to options if I'm not careful.

@Haexxchen

5 ай бұрын

I like using bigger dice and controlling the odds myself. So I might use a D10 (because I like D10 and D100) and put one or two likely encounters twice, maybe with different depositions. If you wanna make it interesting, create follow up tables. Say, you rolled a pack of wolves as a random encounter. For the next encounter a bear doesn't make as much sense as they conflict each other a bit. Instead of using the same "forest" table again, you use the "forest -> wolves" table again. That table is filled with encounters, that match the wolves. Like a hurt wolf they had to abandon, a werewolf, hunting party, ... This gives you a more tied in place. It is more work initially, but not that bad. And in the long run it saves you from stumbling over your brain in the moment. That said, I mainly use random D100 tables for loot, weather and stuff. I plan more of a narrative instead of doing random adventures.

I added a threat level to a dungeon that depending on how PCs played increased the chance to get harder encounters. I used 1d10 + 1d4 per level of threat level. This sliding scale of random encounters is great

I really dig the proximity encounter tables. That's a pretty great idea to add different encounters without making entirely new lists.

I came up in 1st ed AD&D, which predated the d20 system. I learned to build encounter tables based on “percentile dice” using 2d20. The dice at the time only had single digits (bold was used to differentiate single numbers from teens), so rolling “0 1” = 1 and “0 0” = 100. Asking myself the probability of a particular encounter allows me to build the tables rather easily (though today I use 2d10 instead the old d20’s).

i was shocked to learn how frequently the most common encounters occur on a 2d6 table, but i still like the idea of a weighted random encounter table so i can use the classic dragon entry on 2. so i started playing with dice combinations and found that by rolling dice of non equal number of sides, the bell curve can be flattened out to more reasonably spread probabilities across the range. my gut sense is that 1d6+1d8 is the best combination; only have to come up with 13 table entries, and the 3 most common values are 7, 8, and 9, each equally likely and combining for a total 36% chance of being rolled. Essentially, a little over one of every 3 random encounters is one of those 3 most common, and the other two thirds of the time it rolls a rarer encounter. note that increasing the difference between the number of sides of the dice (eg 1d4+1d8 or 1d6+1d12) results in a wider plateau of equally most common encounters and increasingly flatter bell curves.

@Haexxchen

5 ай бұрын

I still recommend you ditch the bell curve. Roll a d100. Decide on the exact percentages you want as a chance for an encounter to appear. 1-13 goblins 14-15 hurt goblins 16-30 pack of wolves, 31-35 bear, ...

Excellent work Baron. I’m so happy KZread’s algorithm put you on my feed. I think you’ve gotten the fastest “subscribed” out of me. Please keep this up if you can your POV on this stuff is so on point that I never even thought about a lot of this and has really expanded my take on DMing. Thank you. It’s like the whole you don’t know what you don’t know and now I’m getting enlightened on it.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

I should be dropping my next vid this weekend!

Super helpful - clear and concise ideas. I was getting waaaay too complicated with my tables. When you started talking about sub-tables...let's just say I felt that.

I like the idea. I just subscribed a few day ago and have not been disappointed. This seems like a good way to keep mixing things up. It would be fun to roll a d8 at higher levels so the party can know that brigands still roam about.

Very grateful to have come across your video! My next campaign is exploration focused, so your advice gave clarity on how to create enjoyable and diverse random encounters; something I've been struggling with the last couple of weeks. Thanks much for sharing your thoughts!

I use the bell curve to determine if an encounter happens. Then a straight roll table to determine what happens. Many times the bell is useful.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

This is a good point

Damn, this approach to random tables really adds a new level of inspiration! I would love to see more tables you made!

Awesome video man! I have been DM'ing for some time now and have come to a phase where I've become so comfortable with the role, that I now start to challenge some of my newbie habbits to try and weed out some of the things I do that might be a little boring. And I love the way this challenges the simple random encounter tables that I find in the modules that I have relied so heavily on. So thanks for rocking the foundation for my understanding of DM resources, and for expanding my ability to do a "generated" narrative plug ^^

I have watched at least 8 of your videos and I have to say you are unacceptably good at them. Seriously. You need more subscribers.

you're crushing this, man. incredible vids.

Love your content. Just found it last week, and finally subbed. :) Thanks for the work!

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

I always liked random encounter tables, but its been so long I can't recall any specifics about how they were set up in the game systems I played (D&D of the 70's and early 80's, TSR Marvel Superheroes and Mayfair DC Heroes of the early and mid 80's). What I do remember is that Marvel's random character generating tables were so fun I think I tied it into a random encounter set-up (whether my own or theirs is lost to the sands of time). Great to see so much thought and effort put into it. An nice little trip down memory lane; thank you.

Echoing some others, I'll often put "no encounter" at the heart of my 2dX tables if the party is on a main road/not in dangerous territory. Another quick and easy way I add flavor and nearly *double* my number of potential outputs is by putting specific encounters on the even numbers and having different results if the dice rolled are odd or even. For instance, if the party is near a well of necromantic power and another faction of say, kobolds is also in the area, I can put skeletons as #6 on a 2d6 table. If I roll 1/5 or 3/3, then the skeletons are normal, whereas a 2/4 roll means they are now kobold skeletons! Quick and dirty monster flavor or even their temperament and reactions to the heroes on the fly.

That was super helpful and super well put together. Thank you for making this video. Subscribed!

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you liked it!

Probably my favourite video of yours. Love how you did this

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I honestly love this one too. I consider it my personal inovation in the ttrpg space, my groundbreaking technology lol.

Most inspirational/solid game design advice vids I’ve seen in a while!

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!!

Combining the bell curve table with shifting the table based on proximity to a location would simulate types of encounters being more common closer to their usual habitat while still allowing them the possibility of wandering far from home. Plus what another commenter said about having the most common results being no encounter would be quite interesting. Also just because the results are skewed doesn’t mean it isn’t randomly determined

The nearest major enemy addition is also brilliant. Whether it is per dungeon level or per hex on a world overview map, having some major, known or unknown, antagonistic entity/leader is absolute gold! What fun this is! My DM gears are turning! Thanks for the video!

I have always used (d100) % and created the odds around what I wanted to be random and what I wanted to be limited in randomness. This eliminates the standard bell curve. On Those limited randomly generated rolls, branches are created with similar generated (%)’s This pushes the randomness even further. Matrix tables can than be generated so that the players are not burdened with the math.

Fantastic video! Great insights! Very helpful. Keep up the good work. Subscribed.

You're bringing the Heat!!! Keep it up great content!

Just dosocvered thos channel and LOVING the Demography videos and thos one too! Very inspiring!!

I scratched the surface of D&D 35 years ago and it's fascinating how it still excites people today. Watching your videos brings back some memories and, tbh leaves some itching to undust my bag of dice.

Damn, this is great advice, but I just spent like a whole afternoon yesterday populating a cascading series of d20 tables lol. I guess this is for my next random encounter region. Love the "local lairing beast" concept. It helps to give a sense of danger to an area.

OK, ya got me. I've been through about 4 videos now and have to say, I like your style. Subscribed.

Your idea about using a single six sided die table for all of the random encounters is brilliant! Specifically the part about adding to the die roll depending how far away you are from the homebase or how deep you are in the dungeon.

Absolutely awesome tips as usual!

These are great ideas and enough to cause fun sessions on their own. Thank you

The bell curve distribution "problem" only occurs, if you use multiple dice. Using a single dice/die yields the same probability for each number. So just use 1d12 instead of 2d6. If you aim for a linear distribution of probability and therefore only use a single die/dice, the downside is, you can only have a result of 1 with that single dice. But the points mentioned are absolutely valid and spot on. The more dice you use, the more evenly the probability of possible values will be distributed. So just use 12d2 instead of 2d6 for a value range of 12-24 therefore also having 12 possible slots to assign encounters to. Apply the same method to increase dice count and spread out probability.

That proximity idea is brilliant! I am happy I found this channel, you have many great ideas that are new to me. Edit: The added behavior and complication idea is also great! I am not sure I totally understand the major threat part. Would that be a 4th column?

This is great! You could also apply negative modifiers and expand the table into negative numbers. This way you could cover more of a campaign area like near town - woods - graveyard. Either way, great video as always!

Woow, you really are the Master. Behaviour and complications make that the encounters feels like real. Very nice tip.

@Mekhami

6 ай бұрын

he didn't come up with this idea lol jesus.

Thanks for the excellent ideas - very inspiring!

One of the best pieces of advice I heard!

Crazy useful! Gonna create a few tables for my screen based on this!

This video really helped clear things up for me. I started with a d100 with percentile values for an artificial rarity bell curve (that I could fudge sometimes), with some entries changing depending on nearby major entities (orc and goblin tribes don't like each other, so have some norkers and ogrillons in the same slot depending on which is closer). Bottom entries also had "one time" notes for a unique creature, like a territorial bulette or a bar-lgura escaped from an abyssal seal. Where I went extra wrong was trying to fit all of the encounters in at once, and duplicating the list with edits so they scale with each level, instead of scaling them on the fly and coming up with context ideas for the encounters. Definitely going to implement this stuff for the next tier of play, maybe some hex crawl stuff too since they're going to be trudging through a massive swamp.

This was probably the most helpful video for me so far

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah

This was great! Thank you for this.

Great idea! The old solo module Ghost of Lion Castle uses a wandering monster table that is similar but without the added narrative.

Excellent as always. Many thanks.

Hi. I used your advice and it works exelentlly. Me and players had fun Thank you

As someone who uses lots of random dice charts I love them. Good points. I use more even odds charts most often d%, d20 +d12 are my favourites overall. Good tips thanks.

I love this video so much, the hexcrawl one is also amazing

Well done. Way more interesting indeed!

I live this idea for encounter tables! I’ve tried them for exploration sections a few times, but they never “clicked”. Having now whipped up a few test tables, I can already see how inspiring this style can be! One question I have though…what do you put down for behaviour and complications for the more open-ended encounters? It’s easy to fill out entries for wolves…but less so for “Closest major power”!

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

You kinda gotta go generic for those. "Hungry" and "lost something valuable" is good

Love the idea of the adding to the list like that. I just made a random encounter list that rolls a 1d40 (if you dont have a d40 use paper and cup method) and its more of an area stocked list (Jungle) than a level appropriate type list. Out of the 40 possibly 10 are rolled once and rerolled if landed on again. Some of these will also place certain random quests that can be taken ect. roughly 3/4 or so could end in combat. EDIT: This is an area where the players will be spending a lot of time!

And here I am playing with flow charts. I definitely agree with the premise, but I don't like being constrained to only a handful of encounters. I want to be able to represent my entire world in a set of tables that anyone can use without any input from me. Oddly, for such radically different approaches, there are a lot of things we do similarly, like the "nearest major entity" entry, which (naturally) for me spills into a separate table for the faction associated with that entity. That way I know that this isn't just any kobold encounter, this is a pack of kobolds dragging sacks of gold back to their dragon leader, with appropriate rewards and consequences.

@davidmorgan6896

2 жыл бұрын

Are you writing for publication? If not, why does it matter that other people can use your tools?

@thehikingviking2049

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmorgan6896 in no particular order, personal satisfaction, OCD, other DMs at the table, and because it's just good design philosophy. I also make sure the novels I write that I have no intention of publishing have good characterization, strong scenes, and sensical plot structure

@CooperAATE

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehikingviking2049 that's a great answer

I do appreciate having a Disposition angle for random encounters. Hoblins rooting around for food (but otherwise neutral to the party) are potential allies if you offer food. I did wonder about your random encounter table having things like Grifting for Gold as an option that non-sapient beings would have, but you made a point about innovating that with the Broken Wing Wyvern example. Just handwave a Sudden Enemy Necromancer NEARBY which alters the stakes considerably. (in my example, I guess the wolves can speak now. "Hey. We've been cursed. Only if a hero stout of heart pays us a gold apiece are we freed!") Excellent video! A good and thoughtful demonstration of how to run fun random encounters.

This is outstanding!

I also use the three-column encounter tables and phweew, it works wonders.

this video does solve a lot of problems I was still trying to figure out. I did get to the d6 tables on my own tho but i use about 4 of them per location.

Build a dungeon using this method… probably one of my best creations… thanks for this

The behavior and complication columns make me think of action and theme tables from the Ironsworn RPG, which is completely free and I'd highly recommend. This style of generation could also be used for faction actions as well, although you would have to be a bit more creative coming up with what the complication means in the pursuit of their next faction goal.

This is amazing! I have a nice complication table in the game Stravagante! that is a d6 table with a nested d6 table for each number rolled. I also can use GMer' or Mythic's Chaos Rank to help with the difficulty raising, so when the tension raises in the adventure tougher encounters happen more often. I could probably use the Chaos Rank to influence the Number Appearing too! The possibilities!

Baron vs Bob: the random encounter fight of the century

@user-jq1mg2mz7o

Жыл бұрын

LOL i was thinking about this. definitely irreconcilable approaches and I'm not sure which I prefer

A system I trial ran was a kind of escalation. As the players did more stuff in a warlord's domain it got her attention. Manifesting in harder and scarier events like hunting parties, traps, and maybe even one of her lieutenants. In rules you just add the 'escalation value' to any random event roll. Bonus points if you have certain abilities to play with escalation. By having a powerful spell add to it or a way to try and dial it down.

I never really liked random tables and I typically avoid using them. However, this video has given me a way to make them more relevant, useful and fun. Well done. 👍

Delivered intellectually and supported with solid game logic. Master Class.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks skeleton guy! 😎

Good Ideas! Thank you for this video!

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

You are quite welcome! I hope you find them useful!!

@SimonLasone

2 жыл бұрын

@@DungeonMasterpiece It gave me a few ideas, how to scale my own tables, yes. :-D I already used a second and third table to variate the battlefield (natural dangers, minor hindrances, etc.) and the situation the monster is in (hungry, tired, in battle with a second monster, afraid, stalking the playercharakters...). But a new pespective is always welcome and you presented yours very well!

THANK YOU! I played a Curse of Straud Campaign and had 8 random encounters with Wolves of varying sizes! It was SO boring! I even told my DM, but he just said "that's what's in the book..." Personally, I rarely use random encounter tables (instead I use preset scenarios), but I might give them a shot in my next campaign. Thanks for the advice :).

good advice solid philosophy on tables your beast video keep up the good work

Excellent! And so simple!

This is genius. Definitely adding this to my DM toolbox

It seems to me that you are describing encounters that have zones. Like the zones Professor Dungeon Master uses for his UDT you could have zones extending from civilization. Adding a +2 to a d6 for say, questionable, dangerous and unknown zones would be a great way to scale encounter tables.

This is why I don't roll on random encounter tables. I pick and choose what I want to fit where the adventure is at at the moment.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

If that works for you, go for it!! What are your strategies for picking an encounter with narrative? I might want to steal your ideas 🤪

Well sir, you've done it again! Making my life easier DMing for experienced players by putting in less prep time and justifying my improv indulgences.

I sometimes use a percentile die and simply shift the percentages around as I please. It's technically a single die and allows for a super high degree of control, you can easily shift the percentages around as well if the characters get closer to a certain zone.

is just about to make my own random table for a grid crawl campaign im running. Another thing i like to add is non-combat encounters intermingled with the combat ones. Travelling merchants and the like. They can probably use the same behavior chart as well. AND, an idea i got from Zipperon Disney was to add an urgency roll. Not sure which of his videos he discussed this but the idea is to create situations in combat that require players to make hard choices. An urgency can be as easy as enemy reinforcements in the midpoint of combat to a ticking bomb or innocent civilians in danger. Maybe you dont have to roll one of these for every combat but it makes things much more interesting when you do.

@DungeonMasterpiece

2 жыл бұрын

I'll have to go dig up zips video on this! Thanks!

@0kaj8

2 жыл бұрын

@@DungeonMasterpiece i think it was this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/rGaYk8mclcingNo.html . He doesn't explicitly talk about combat urgencies as a random table however his idea of exigencies is where i got the idea. Basically when i roll up a combat and feel that it's somewhat lacking or that the mood around the table is getting stale i modify it with some extra urgency. However this modification can also occur while combat is going on. Is the combat getting boring? Is it too easy? Instead of just buffing the monsters hp or letting the boss cast a new spell or whatever i throw in something extra that takes the players focus. And ill usually do this between their turns, so in the middle of them executing their plan something happens that throws a wrench in there.

Wow, great advice!

when it comes to random encounter tables i make myself, i just upgrade the monsters they can fight wolves become dire wolves, orcs become orogs. and so on. eventually i do run into the issue of there being no replacement monster so at that point i just start buffing the monster, better strength modifiers, buffed health. Small things to keep them relevant.

@lenni-hazels

2 жыл бұрын

Another approach I'm thinking of lately is to keep the smaller fights in, but turn them into skill challenges, where it's not a deadly fight but you instead try to find out if the PCs come out unscathed.

I rarely use random tables, but when I do they come with options that have plot hooks and info about the campaign... and also some normal fights.

I like this. To be a stickler, the bell curve tables are still technically “random”. The issue is that they are skewed, and the skew is what results in poor outcomes. You’ve identified an important problem and provided a great solution 👍

To eliminate the bell curve I recommend rolling a percentile die, d100, and just having assigned ranges. This creates a curve with the shape you want... flat, bell, inverted bell, triangular, whatever you want. And if you add some monsters it is easy to adjust to the new group. But, random encounters are really only needed if you're reusing an area with groups that might have heard about the adventure before. Most of us write one-offs so you don't need random encounters. Just make encounters that fit the story, the time and place, the terrain and the party level. As far as the players know, everything is random.

I think the majority of this is really good. I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that weighted probabilities != random. I think that using mixed dice creates a better distribution that isn't as heavily dominated by the center. I would suggest 1d4 + 1d8 to still have rare encounters but start to flatten out the curve a bit. Or even better start treating 2's as 3's and 12's as 11's. This beefs up the chance of those rare encounters without just removing them. Personally having rare unlikely encouters makes them more special. The 3rd time the party comes across a wyvern it is just as boring as the goblins. The fact that it is rare is what makes it special.

LOVE this video

Really like the 3 column 666 idea. I've posted the link of this video in our solitary role-player FB group. Always need new ways to generate random events.

Very helpful!

Table/result shifting came to me by way of the "classic" traveller game and yes, it works well. T&T had some interesting use of tables, keys and dice as well. The encounter deck is absolutely great in person and I swear by it. But at the end of the day the draw is your narrative capacity to stitch it together. I might prefer a second d6 b/c I'd have a few variations of the base die results, but that's just me.

interesting stuff!

Thanks Sir very helpful

the 666 table is pretty nifty there. I personally do like to roll 1d8 + 1d12 and then reaction table. Also if any DM rolls something up on the table that seems too strong right now one can always show some tracks or a kill. If its a bit too easy tell the players you spotted some goblins in the distance that hurrily dispersed and ran away. One thing not mentioned in the video is that it can be nice to have some non combat encounters like social encounter or discovery encounter. IT might also not truelly fit the modern playstyle but having 1 or 2 way too strong encounters in there can definitly be fun as well.

simple and helpful video

I've always used a d12 table with 5 or six encounters, where different encounters have 1-3 number reaults each. So for example, in the Wyrm mountains, you'll meet a travelling dwarf merchant on a roll of 1-3, and the wyvern that makes its nest nearby on a roll of 12

ok this is gold. Thanks a lot !

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Glad it helped!

Putting your method to the test I made a quick table with 12 slots. each with an entity, a behavior, and a complication. Some test rolls got me: A blind commoner lost in the grasslands trying to find his way home. An Ankheg trying to find its lair but someone stole it's brain. A mind controlled howler fighting a young blue dragon. Some combinations made so little sense I HAD to reroll them, but its good enough for an on the fly event.

Glorious efficiency!!!

Adding some interesting terrain-features or weather-effect (like fog, rain or a hailstorm) to those random encounters would be neat. Strangely enough, PCs in a forest very rargely have to worry about thorn-bushes or trees blocking line of sight or difficult terrain. Even a small pond or a fallen tree can change the way that a battle has to be fought.

One thing you can do with the 2d6 is turn it from random encounter to the random event table. So 7 would represent nothing happening with 6 and 8 would be the next more common events such as a moderate difficulty encounter and discovering a location. The idea is yes rolling a 2 might be rare but that is where you place a deadly or extreme difficulty encounter. That way it is possible for the party to discover some monsters that might flat out kill them, like the wyvern they are too low to realistic fight. It can then be used as a foreshadow of what the can encounter, or show how truly deadly and out of their depth they are.

Another possibility that works as a compromise to keep the idea of the curve but flatten it a bit is to use 1d4+1d8. This results in the 5 most common rolls having a flat 12.5% chance with 3 tapering off on the low and high sides for the more rare encounters. Though I like the suggestion below to make the 7 of a 2d6 roll be no encounter. I find it a bit odd the DMG has you roll to determine if there's an encounter and roll again for the encounter. It's much more efficient to combine the rolls.