Pay close attention to the date mentioned in this video.

Bro, u had an alk swing. That's the only thing that wipes out corals over a wide range like that. Get your params dialed in with your doser rock solid then add some leathers,gsp, a Duncan some zoas if u can keep them happy move up

@shoja7264

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had Alk swings. Many of them🤦🏻‍♂️Everything does not just die.🧐 I wonder if some copper from freshwater tanks could have made its way into reef.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James. I think it might have been bad salt

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

I think it might have been bad salt

Kind of glad that you post the negatives, been down that road before, took 6 months for me to recover. Stay positive 👍. For me started to increase my phytoplankton doses, is still working 💪

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brandon. What was your issue?

That is such a bummer. Thank you for sharing the good and the bad. Let me know if you want some frags. I don't have anything that fancy but I could meet you at cuttlefish next time you're there.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

It is a bummer. Appreciate the support

Thanks for sharing, been there myself. I no longer buy lots of coral until I know what I have is growing well. If nutrients etc are high, need to bring them down slowly, like all other params.

I always do an ICP test when coral tissue is receding...its usually something irritating them in the water column.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Going to do so. Thanks

@elfuckingkd4709

2 жыл бұрын

What's the ICP test ?

omaigod that's a major loss :( hope you pull through and keep on going!

Such a frustrating hobby. I never lost coral but gave up due to algae. It’s been a few years and i’m thinking of trying again 😅

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

It is. Give it a shot

sorry bro! I have gotten back into the hobby. I thought my nano lagoon was set up great and continue to struggle to keep stable nutrient export. I am 1 year in and just now seeing some growth. Nice tank/stock selection, hope you stick with it.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you got it worked out Michael.

Hey man! Keep up the updates! It always helps to watch your videos to get my tank going. We all hit our down patches. Question, how do you go about catching fish in your tank?

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! For catching fish I use one of those cages with the door on fishing line. When they go in there for food, pull it and hope it closes before they escape.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Message me on FB so I can send you that info.

Love that Yellow Tang gorgeous man Paul all your corals NOOOOOOO!! dayum I know you’re gonna turn it around 🤙🏽💯🐠

Man that's crazy! Sorry to hear that. This hobby can be very unforgiving that's for sure

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

That is for sure

That really sucks! Keep at it dude, I know you will work it out.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it

Ah man! So sorry! You had some beautiful coral. ☹️

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s blows

Thanks for sharing...👍👍👍

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

👀

Total bummer. Really good to see you are keeping your head above the water

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Boaz! Yeah its a total bummer.

Absolutely devastating 😥 I’m so sorry for you. Hopefully you can work out what happened and get some new ones

So sorry that happened to you, lots of money down the drain but we all learn from this beautiful but delicate hobby, I know I became a scientist over night seems like, and after 8 years of 150 gallon tank I can say, I am at a point where I finally can relax a bit and got it all very manageable and a lot easy to maintain. Don’t loose hope we are praying you bounce back to a beautiful aquarium 😊👍🙏🏻

That sux dude they looked amazing. Some of the algae also looks cool under the salt water light. But on a more exciting note, I'm very interested in your time travelling device :)

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Time traveler

Feel your pain bro, been following you for sometime now, 1 thing I want to ask, did/do you have much of a clean up crew? Snails 🐌. Etc ? It’s no magic cure but a good dose of them may help lower some numbers?

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I have a food crew in the tank

Sorry to hear that bro. But i got the same experiences as yours, alk unstable, ranging 6-14, up and down without me adding anything. Turns out higher ca and mg caused buffering instability in our system that causes alk to fluctuates(i read somewhere in r2r). Little that i know the salinity that i checked using refractometer was not calibrated, and when i checked with the calibration solution, it registered as 1.030! Easy fix was to dilute our saltwater salinity to 1.026 with few cycles of waterchanges. Lessons learnt. Simple fix with cheap calibration solution that cause expensive coral dying! Oh btw, nutrients fluctuation wouldnt cause euphylia to die easily. Alk swing will do that!

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you sharing your experience. I wonder if it was bad salt that cause the all raising for no reason, etc

In my opinion high nitrates and phosphates are more likely to cause algae rather than coral death. Of course once you have algae, the numbers will be low with the algae using it all up. With problems, ICP tests provide not only a "check" on your testing calibrations but also for other elements you do not check for normally.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Going to be doing a ICP

@l2deng

2 жыл бұрын

It shouldn't be the phosphate, I had phosphate above 1 at some point, yes, 1.0+. It was beyond what Hanna can measure. I have lowered it to 0.3+ for some time and now it's at 0.13ish. Except delicate SPS, everything was happy including monti.

Looking forward to seeing Paul’s Reef 2.0.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

👀

That is a sick feeling. I know the feeling. Happened to me about 3 years ago. Lost close to $50k worth. Keep pushing on.

Hey just subscribed, I hope you sort this problem out, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I definitely would pinpoint that being salinity and your alk /cal being high I run a sps dominate tank with some pretty high end stuff from top shelf and my phos is always .08-.18 and nitrate are around 20ppm by the time I do a water change But my other parameters are always stable Alk is always around 9.5 cal is always 390-420

Sad to see man, don't give up man. LPS is tricky sometimes, happend to my acans and torches also. No telling what was the problem. I find sps more easy then lps .

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Bummer

Sorry for you lost sir! I was losing so many corals (sps, lps) for a while up until I used carbon dosing Nopox (red sea) now almost no nitrates ans phos... Corals are amazing, just like a miracle... Almost no water change (saving $$$) Just food for thoughts! Bonne chance mon ami reefer. Dennis

Also a DKH of 11 is GOOD. I run mine at 12. The higher reading actually helps the PHG from swinging

Paul so sorry for such a heavy loss 🙁 Fish look good, get em fat n happy 😁

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, tough time

Wow!! Sorry for you man!! New to the channel. Just hit the Subscribe. Good luck from your friendly Salty Crab!!!

@shoja7264

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the Fish look Amazing!!!!

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub Sho!

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it

Sorry for your loss

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it

U should try some soft corals, kenya tree, zoa's, toadstool,pulsing xenia, and see how they are going. Zoa's are a very good indicator when the PO4 is high. Best of luck.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestions

@cezar050681

2 жыл бұрын

Yes becouse u killed to many corals alredy and its not about the money that u lost, u can make that money back, its about the corals that grow very slowly in the wild or coral farms for years and years and with all the bans and restriction...and u can't make other corlas....just have a think...

I just got back into the hobby. My former tank did the same thing in 2008 after 8 years. It sucks. I had suspicions on why it happened, but was not totally sure.

@jonathangraham7148

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you think it failed?

@ozzy1887

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathangraham7148 #1 suspect was an ac pump in the sump that went bad. # 2 was some bad RODI water from the local shop. They were going (belly up) at the time. I got too comfortable, the tank always had done great.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks stinks that it happened to you as well.

@davidmurphy4672

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventoryking Hydrogen sulfide fucked me. I removed hair algae and boom I came back everything was super pissed. Hammers and frogspawn dying now. All the rest of the coral is happy.

I would definitely recommend doing regular ICP tests (I do them quarterly, along with th trident testing daily and I manually test ALK, Phosphate and Nitrate once a week). The 50 bucks to send off some tests to get detailed lab analysis of your tank is worth it when the ramifications are losing thousands of dollars in coral. THe ICP test also will give you details on trace elements you may not have considered like Potassium. And if I were a betting man I would guess you were using Reef Crystals salt that has an 11 DKH and when the salt was high your Alkalinity was also high. Sorry for your loss and hope this helps with future corals.

@Kpoole35

Жыл бұрын

Red Sea Coral pro has a dKH of 12, with all of his corals it would make sense it would be 11 when he changed the water.

Hope it all works out, I feel your pain.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brandon! Its been rough

That’s a beautiful sailfin.

check if electricity is not leaking into your tank from some device sps and lps corals are very sensitive about that also invverts are sensitive, i think i saw one video from store that had simmila issue with corals mostly dying over night due to broken heater.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have since added a grounding probe

I m sorry for you :( they are so beautiful creature, but so expensive. So sad

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Very sad Diane

Wow!!!! My whole heart hurts 😭

Alkalinity swing for sure!

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

Hi you spoke about your salt and what i found was with Redsea salt the higher your salinity is the higher the KH will be .I found the sweet spot for Redsea salt is 1025 with a KH about 9 . Calcium about 420 to 440. Phosphates and nitrates as long as it’s stable you should not have and issue . Get stability in your tank and add cheap corals and monitor from there on. This is a life time hobby . I see to many reefers as fast they get in they get out . I always say add 1 to 2 corals every month then add a lot at 1 time . I’m in South Africa and do maintenance and setups of reef tanks . I even go as far as to quarantine my corals to make sure they have no pest at all . Perfect example 1 of my clients added some corals to his tank that had fluke on them and killed off all his fish . Corals all survived fish we tried everything just did not make it . Good luck to you and take it slow and don’t rush . You will get back stronger 💪.

wo that sucks sorry for your luck

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Sure does Kris

So rock flower anemones are great beginner corals 👍

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

About a year ago I said "don't get coral cocky and skip all the steps" Get back to some soft corals, and build up your skill set from the foundation like any other reefer. I'm sorry for your coral loss. Heartbreaking.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

It was tough.

@erasetoys1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventoryking Dude this is the second time you have wiped out an entire tank of coral, when does it end?

@erasetoys1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventoryking Do you just keep killing animals until it hopefully works?

@erasetoys1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventoryking If you truly love these animals you would leave them alone when this keeps happening.

@anthonychristina5038

2 жыл бұрын

@@erasetoys1489 it happens. equiptment fails tests arent perfect. its a learning process. if you quit you wont learn anything.

Heartbreaking. I’m sorry!

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy, its been rough

Have increased the lights on your algea scrubber? Maybe that will help with nitrate removal

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, that would work

I’m sure this had been talked about extensively on R2R, however, how’s your RO/DI filters looking? Tds reading good numbers? Sorry this happened to you.

Sorry You have to deal with all that, what salt did you used before changing to Brighwell

@joeypink1549

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I’m courteous as well to know what salt you used before

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, it is tough. I was using Fritz RPM

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Fritz RPM

Man dude all I can say is sorry to see this happen to you.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Tough

Devastating!! Lots of money gone😰

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Tons

I am going to be moving and getting rid of some corals soon. If you are interested in them, let me know. I think you're pretty close to where I live

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Johnny, how do we reach eachother?

How's the frag tank going?

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

It’s going

What salt were you using initially? Reef Crystals?

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

I was using Fritz RPM

.18 phosphate didn't do it in... i've had SPS at .3 w/o problems... maybe no potassium like Melev's Reef from bad salt. JJ's Fish channel may be right

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Roli

Sorry for your loss but the phosphate numbers you mentioned did not kill your coral. Also, 1.028 is high but also did not kill your corals. What phytoplankton and bacteria are you adding? The key to your success is in the microfauna.

Having same. Icp showed nothing. Stops for a week then here we go again. Im done. 30 years never encountered anything like it

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

So strange Annie!

My tank is a 220 mixed reef. I haven’t done water change for 2 years. My secret… keep SAP (Salinity, Alkalinity and Phosphate) stable. The rest of the parameters are secondary. Plus I have 24 hour ozone. Let me know if you questions

Keep corralling, this happens to the best of us...

Cual era el problema dinoflagelados ¿? Ahora se ve muy bien 👍

Sorry man but nutrients won’t do that check all your heaters and pumps for leaching

@michaelschoelles4377

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@666999crosscut

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same when he said his specific gravity was 1.028, I was thinking that's not THAT high... not high enough to all those corals - I'd do an ICP test.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Will do.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Good call on the ICP

@77blacktrip

2 жыл бұрын

I agree too. I've had alk range from 6-12 and calcium from 250-500+ when I've not realized my doser thought the reservoirs were empty and stopped dosing. I've had salinity levels from 1.020-1.028 over the years too with no side effects. I've had nitrate and phosphate spikes due to my chaeto going bad in my algae reactor but nothing has wiped my corals out like this!!? How long did everything take to die off? I think there's something more sinister going on there man..

Either there's some chemical that got into the tank or leaching or there's something wrong with the salt your using. Malev's Reef had salt issues where his potassium was very low and he was loosing corals until he did an ICP test. Its probably best to do ICP test. I had salinity at 1.028 or 1.029 before (20 gal) using regular Instant Ocean and all my corals were fine for many months then I lowered it down back to normal once I knew the results. (I was testing if higher salinity helps with coral growth). I had nitrates of 40 ppm and phosphates at 0.5 ppm to 1 ppm with no issues. I had 15 dkh and 500 ppm calcium for a while when using Reef Crystals but I found that if your levels are that high you need higher nitrates and phosphates so that your corals do not shrink. Yet none of my corals died.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I am thinking it was bad say now.

I bet you didn't do at least weekly water parameter testing otherwise a "swing" in water parameter could've been seen ahead. Maybe you have a copper leaching from a broken equipment (one of those pumps?)

I had that happen when the apartment got too warm T_T our AC was broken.

Parameters good but coral dead?? Maybe some pantogen there , Try add carbon active for 1 month & Try water changes 50% 👍 And then try 1 soft coral first for check your parameter

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestions

I'm curious where your magnesium and pH sit. Your phosphate and salinity didn't sound horrible to me. Also temperature and lighting (do you have a par meter?) can be a factor here. Those scolys are southern GBR where they can experience temperature into the 60's. I see others have mentioned a bad batch of salt, but, as easy as it would be to just point the finger at the salt, I would be very sceptical of that. I'm sorry this happened to you, these animals are very fragile. I've had losses, but nothing like this. My heart hurts for you, and I sincerely hope you figure out the real source of your trouble. Good luck

We have all lost coral but if after wiping out all those animals twice you proceed to buy more it's animal cruelty my friend.

@davidmurphy4672

2 жыл бұрын

I think he learned his lesson. He lost 500$-1000$

@davidmurphy4672

2 жыл бұрын

I lost one head of a hammer recently I did non stop research what to but hydrogen sulfide did it and there is very little research on hydrogen sulfide.

@erasetoys1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmurphy4672 This is the second time he has done this, the fact you bring up how much money he lost is completely irrelevant. Why must more animals suffer?

@davidmurphy4672

2 жыл бұрын

@@erasetoys1489 I don't think your willing to risk 2000$ again like that unless your billionaire.

@davidmurphy4672

2 жыл бұрын

@@erasetoys1489 I think in this hobby it does not matter your gonna loose an animal. Hermit crabs eat each other for shells even if you add extra shells. Hermit crabs kill snails you want for cleaning. Fish kill each other because of territories and this develops fin rot which is a disease that kills all the fish. This is not for an everyday person to own. I own one of these and I am fighting daily to keep everyone happy and alive. Its hard to do it.

Damnn thats sucks bro shit happen for reason

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

It sucks!

Man bad salt 100% Melves Reef had this isse as well weeks ago

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks nick! Seems that it had to be bad salt as you’re not the only one mentioning it.

@nick_timberreef

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventoryking oh man just sayin he had issues... now you in the same timeline... could be more

This is the same reason I gave up saltwater. I was more into the corals than the fish

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

You ever find out what caused your issues?

@jackiemoore9095

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventoryking No Sir. But If I ever do it again I’m getting professional help this time

it wasn't the phosphates. I've had 0.5 before and never had issues.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thinking bad salt

This doesn’t happen over night, right?! How long did it take to go from looking great to dying to dead? And what signs do you think you missed?

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

No. I was doing posts on R2R and get some direction.

Doing a salinity check on my tank right nowwww

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

i had similar situtaion but worst, i spent 2 days away, came back to all my fish with ich, on a 125g, lost half of live stock on those 2 days, due to all my fish with ich i couldnt catch them all i ended up taking every coral out of my tank and dosing with what the store owner said it was copper, turned out it was a medic aid to get rid of worms, so all my corals died 5 acros green bubble tip and couple sps, to then find out i didnt need to remove them cuz it wasnt copper, and they died cuz no lfs wanted to keep them for me, so while i thought i was treating ich i didnt cuz they sold me the wrong thing, i lost tangs royal gramma 6 year old clownfish that was 4 inches anthies coral beauties, just insane, my gonipora survived after i put it back in the tank and my pikachu also recuperating i cant tell, my monti died, now im sitting with a gonipora pikachu and one of those sps that grow like montis, 2 domino damsels(glad they still alive cuz they were my first fish) 1 clownfish who i think is gonna be dead tomorrow when i wake up, and my 3 chromies glad as well, cuz its hard to get chromies to not die when you first add them in, so here am i, starting over again, just waiting the ich out kill who is gonna kill and see from there, im not giving up tho for sure

Are u even dosing this tank correctly? There’s some coralline for sure, but that rock looks funky. Your levels are way off bro. Start with some leathers, learn a little, please stop killin shit

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Please elaborate on what you mean by funky. Thanks

You didnt talk enough about your water change. When things go wrong we do water change. isn't it? But thanks for sharing.

PO4 didn't do in your tank. It's just like you said --> STABILITY that's what did your tank in, rather INSTABILITY. I'm having the same issues before I started dosing Kalk, now I'm having nutrient instability and the culprit seems to be PO4! So next I plan on starting an algae reactor and adding phyto and copepods for biodiversity. Hang in there as this is such an amazing hobby! In my own research I found that kalk will aid in precipitating certain unwanteds like PO4 out of the water column, but to completely remove it you must vacuum your sand bed. Also, calcium will read high and is offset by certain heavy metals like Aluminum so I would send out an ICP test. Not sure if it offsets Mg, or Alk, but Ca it will.

dam that dude lost a grip of $ in coral

Slow and steady wins the race. Been there before. 2 heater failures on 2 different tanks in 3wks. Sorry brother

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Dang that blows

Bro what did you do. Or rather didnt do?

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Might have been bad salt

I am not sold on algae scrubbers. Also, how do you have a tank increasing in alkalinity? Something either contributing like your source water or your test set might not be accurate. You should have to regularly ADD alkalinity.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe bad salt? I am not sure why it was raising. I wasn’t adding anything.

Wow what a great loss

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

So much

63k subs and he just walks away from the channel 😂

Sucks, maybe next time move slower. Adding so many corals definitely messes with levels.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Just goes to show that you can spend as much money as you want on fancy equipment and it still don't make you a good Reef keeper. I have been in this hobby for decades and have never had a die off like that. I could go on about a couple things I saw but that's neither here nor there. Doing research after the fact is always a hard and very costly way to learn.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

It has been a tough way

WTF Nooooooooooooo

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

What happened to the freshwater hobby?

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

It’s coming back

Your phos levels had zero to do with why your coral died. It will lean towards algae growth is all, mine are over 1.0 on phos. Nitrate is about 10. I am betting your salinity was to high. High alk will take out coral's.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. And the rising alk without dosing was strange

Let me just give you one piece of advice. Dont ever, EVER buy and put in so many new corals all at once. You are still learning and a few months is not enough to judge whether or not you are ready for thousands of $ worth of sensitive corals. Yes they look pretty when you put them in, that goes downhill real fast. I can tell by your coralline algae, your tank is still rather new. My rocks are literally pink from it and they are only two years old. Patience is a hard lesson in reefing, and if you dont have money to burn just go back to freshwater and stick with fish only.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advise, my tank has been running since 2019

@jonasbergkvist1464

2 жыл бұрын

@@inventoryking how can you have had your tank for two years with that little Coralline? Looking at your rock, it look really dead in a way. Did all the algea die to when this happened? Sorry for this happened to you mate. I had my tank for 11 months now and lost two sps. I cant imagine how you feel :/

Money can't buy you success knowledge an research does

Your salinity IS NOT high at all, I run mine in that same range. That WAS NOT your problem

you coud that in 1 min do

Reefing is like riding a motorcycle, eventually you will crash once 🤷🏽‍♂️.

Coral isn’t worth the hassle fresh water better

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

I can see the argument from both sides. Freshwater is easier, but I got to say Coral is aweomse.

This is so common these days. Buy thousands and thousands dollars worth of equipment , kill everything and get out of the hobby. This hobby has become more about equipment keeping rather then healthy fish and corals. Back in the days people were keeping beautiful tanks without all these garbage equipments that will wipe out a tank. People definitely didn't get dummer so it must be all these complicated machines that you don't need is making it harder and harder for the average hobbyist to succeed.

Oh man I clicked "like" but that's just for the algorithm, definitely didn't like this one.

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

Sux

how do we know you didnt just sell them? no offense

@inventoryking

2 жыл бұрын

I wish that was it