I miss the good old days where if you wanted a "skip the line pass" you had to actually be in the park, and physically grab one. Then you could not have another pass until either you used that pass or 2 hours passed, none of this "I'm reserving my space in line 3 months in advance" nonsense. Well lets hope Disney makes this system ultra-restrictive and they don't overbook like they did with the previous incarnation of Lightning lane.

@holllyrhode

15 күн бұрын

… fast pass obviously

@DrRipper19

15 күн бұрын

same. it did lead to a bit more time wasting but it was fair and laid back and cheap

I was just there last week with my kids. The real way to do Genie+ is to give it to your 13 year old kid, and let him at it. He got us on all the virtual queues in early groups. His magic fingers also worked well for LL booking. We would set timers for the next time so we were not always looking at the phone. It wasn't as bad for us as for others.

@MW53516

14 күн бұрын

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As long as I can then continue to book lightning lanes in ok. But ..... I hate it forces me into a park selection daaaaaaays ahead. G+ was fine. Just needed to tweak the purchase time. Ppl were just lazy to learn it

At least genie+ was fair for all guests. Now resort guests have the advantage. AND you still would have to wake up at 7am to get the rides you want, and technically you will still be on your phone in the park making selections. So this doesn’t solve much.

Yeah… pushing people to buy early is great for Disney and takes away the customer’s ability to really buy based on needs and demand. You have to buy blind. This might be good for passholders, but single-time guests, not so much. Seems will build resentment.

I really liked Genie+, but I never used the older Fast Pass, so I've not experienced both. That said, I don't understand how this is better. In my previous visits, I could book over 6 rides on Genie+, and now I only have 3 that I can book. I guess I'll have to keep looking into it, but it doesn't seem like a better deal to me. Not to mention, we don't stay on site, so I'm hoping there will still be good options left.

@kayjay5143

16 күн бұрын

You book 3 in advance. Once you use one, you can book another one and so on…

@lillyfish2657

16 күн бұрын

@@kayjay5143the wording sounds like once you check into your first ride, you are able to book again. However, you are maybe doing a shorter trip or staying off site, you may only have the option for afternoon rides, while the people staying 14 days plus will already have the early morning rides. Personally, I loved genie plus. I refuse to wait on lines with kids. We were able to go straight to the next ride without waiting when we chose the more baby rides. Now I don’t know what it will be like.

@pico989gallo9

15 күн бұрын

The latest version of genie plus only let you book 1 lightning lane initially instead of 3.

@AliceHendricks-ms4fj

15 күн бұрын

@@kayjay5143 Oh, ok. Thank you!

Thanks for explaining this!

Gotta love the big “screw you” Disney is giving to offsite guests. So the onsite guests will grab all the early morning rides and then be able to add throughout the day as they use their reservations.

@bowlzie88

16 күн бұрын

If they're going to do this, I wish they would just follow the universal studios model and give lightning Lane, multi-pass for free to Disney hotel guests and make non-disney hotel guests pay a premium fee but they get equal access to Pre-Booking reservations. Just like you said, It's definitely a big screw to all non-disney hotel guests.

@stephensmith6790

16 күн бұрын

I remember when the multi pass, aka fast pass, was free.

@abermen

16 күн бұрын

Considering the premium resort guests pay, I’d say it’s totally reasonable.

@antoniotorres7834

16 күн бұрын

Glad that DVC membership is paying off for you!

@Runnerschai

16 күн бұрын

There has always been an advantage to staying on site and that makes sense.

Will there still be free virtual queue? For the newest attractions or have they gotten rid of that one altogether? if they did get rid of that, would it be standby for Tiana and the old virtual queue rides?

I liked being able to buy it the day of because I could see how busy the park was the day before and make a decision based on that. Also when you go for a week maybe you got most of your stuff done you wanted so you didn't buy it. Now you have to make that decision prior to getting to the park. Also your first couple of days there the options might be limited because other people can book the length of their stay up to 14 days.

This is LESS complicated?

@strugl3snugle245

15 күн бұрын

neither were complicated this is more convenient

I hate that you can book for your whole trip all at once. All the good LL used to be gone in advance when this system used to be in effect for our trips.

This really does put Florida resident fast pass holders to the side, so no more spontaneous Disney days… not when everything will be booked by hotel guests 7 days ago.

Thanks for the great explanation! I wonder how it will affect Disneyland, too.

Disney needs to do better! The price people pay for entrance and parking alone is insane. The fact they want to still charge for rides is crazy. Greed is real.

I’ll really appreciate not having to purchase Genie+ at midnight then wake up ahead of 7am to book the 1st genie+ selection.

I am staying off site and I want to ride guardians so bad but long story short I can only use the LL, will this be hard as a offsite guest?

I crush it at Genie+. I'm one of the few who actually liked it. I'm bummed this is changing. Sticking it to non-Disney Hotel Guests is really going to suck. If you want to ride rides with minimal wait times, you absolutely will have to stay at a Disney hotel. Curious if this will also pertain to pass holders. If they buy Lightning Lane Multi-Pass, will they have to stay at a Disney hotel to get early access perks?

@PSHAW2009

16 күн бұрын

Same! Earlier this month we worked the heck out of Genie+ and did 21 individual rides and attractions in ONE day. 24 if you count stuff we did twice!! We stay off site because we have a family place there. This new system could put us at a serious disadvantage.

The days of the Fiddle Faddle aren’t gone tho 😉

GREAT video/ Thanks

What if you only want to buy Genie Plus for two days of your trip and have a 10-day pass. Can you still buy both 7 days before the first day of your trip?

Have they mentioned about Virtual Queues? Is that still a 7am refresh job as usual?

@dementedcheesepuff99

15 күн бұрын

There will be a change to the virtual queue system but the official post is unclear on how it will function - per their FAQ it will now appear from time to time for high demand attractions.

Really concerned about the elimination of the old virtual queues, will smugglers run, tron and cosmic rewind have standbys in July or are they now quite literally E-ticket rides?

@TheMouselets

14 күн бұрын

Smugglers run and rise of the resistance both no longer have virtual queue, prior and unrelated to this change. The other two will retain them for now

@DudeDoodDude

14 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@TheMouseletswill it be possible to ride Tron twice? One through virtual queue and another through single pass on the same day?

I pre-booked my passes for Aug 23rd-25th. How does that affect my pass?

I love to ride a ride a certain ride a couple times in a day. Will they allow you to get say Sourin a couple times our will you be limited to once like Genie+

I’m excited, we only stay onsite. I miss the fast pass days. We’re going in September, perfect timing.

@buster5661

16 күн бұрын

Someone call the pointer sisters

As a Jersey guy.. loving the Cape May sweatshirt.. even if you point your camera at a mirror.

Seems letting ppl book prior to the day is just another reason not to play. Idk, I’m a Disneyland person, but this doesn’t seem better.

One thing i haven't seen is whether each park will have a different price like it is now

It will require even more planning. Now you have to plan the specific park you want to visit but also the schedule of that day. For families with toddlers or small children that lack of flexibility is a nightmare

@travisandrews5207

15 күн бұрын

This is how most folks book anyway. For dining or the old extra magic hours. Planning the park you want to visit is very common ahead of time. Even as far back as when I was a cast member in 2004-2010.

My first disney trip ever starts on July 24th! I wonder if I will be able to get the plan ahead perk before the 24th? I'm even staying on a disney resort. It would really suck if I couldnt... any news on this?

@SophyFernandez-e4q

14 күн бұрын

I think she mentioned in the video if your first day starts on the 24th that you should see the option to purchase the new multipass 7 days before on the 17th

@kevinscutt7396

13 күн бұрын

But not if you are an international visitor. This system discriminates against them.

All the fast pass makes lines even longer

Guess ill wont be renewing my annual pass. I can already see it where most tier one rides are already booked 2-3 days out. What an awful decision…

@vino6106

15 күн бұрын

Not necessarily. Florida resident AP holders can visit the parks whenever they want and have probably already done all the big ticket attractions multiple times. This is a better way of ensuring that guests who have never visited, or rarely visit, have a chance to also experience them.

@alecmitchell24

15 күн бұрын

@@vino6106 so just alienate your Florida resident annual pass holders ? It doesn’t make sense. It just feels like they’re making Disney more and more for the upper class and less and less for the Normies who can’t afford a week in one of their hotels. Even people coming from out of state who can’t afford their hotels that stay at a Holiday Inn or red roof Inn etc they are also alienated. Just a bad move and not a good look, especially when Universal is making the right moves.

"Purchase for 1 theme park per day" screws you if opted for the Park Hopper ticket. I can go to two parks in a day but only use Genie+/Multi Pass for one?

@somecallmetim46

16 күн бұрын

You can book LL’s for the 2nd park but have to use at least 1 in the first park before booking in the 2nd (as I understand it)

@staceybextel4564

16 күн бұрын

I believe reading the fine print it says your fourth selection (after you've scanning for your first one) can be made in a different Park.... I forget where I read this though. It might be on the actual Disney website

Reminds me of the old fast passes where you were allowed to book multiple at a time and easier to schedule your whole day. I actually prefer this instead of Genie +. Seems like you don’t need to be waking up crack of dawn to book your first Genie + then be stuck on your phone all day. Plus if you can’t get the Genie + time you want it could interfere with other plans like dining reservations that you can’t so easily reschedule at many places at the drop of a dime like character table services. I’m excited for this and happy it will be in effect during my next trip.

@vanvanoy

15 күн бұрын

Except you will have to stay up and book your rides the minute it opens or they will all be gone. That is what happened last time they used this system

@electra7329

3 күн бұрын

@@vanvanoy I never had issues with the old fast pass/LL system. The 60 days out yes I did wake up butt crack of dawn to try and book the most coveted rides, but I always went back in MDE & switched times, canceled rides/ meet+greet, or how many riders, even while in the park the day of without any problems. With Genie. + it was always a hit or miss to even book good rides, but I do go during peak times of the year though. This new system who knows how it will be. Fingers crossed!! 🤞🏻 Edit: Avatar was the only ride within the first month of opening I never got to book with FP/LL because you’re right they were all taken even first thing in the morning.

I loved that everyone had an equal chance at 7 to reserve passes. Dislike that you can reserve beforehand now cause you’re gonna get ppl who reserve who won’t show up on time and take up spots bc they think they are gonna get there early but don’t.

Is this also for Disneyland?

I feel like i'm in a advanced algebra class

So much planning, my goodness

Here is my question. If you are park hopping and starting at MK can you book 3 multi passes at MK and also 2 single passes at other parks? For me Genie+ was not worth the $. You could not plan ahead and you had to zig zag around the park doing what is available or you couldn't get your money's worth. I liked fastpass and I wish this was free, but I'm glad to return to old structure.

Wonder how much it will cost

So, this is only for Disney World at the moment? Somebody know what will happen with this at Disneyland?

This is changing while I am at WDW for 2 weeks.

@DrStinkbomb

16 күн бұрын

Same. I have no idea how this is gonna affect our vacation. We stay at Disney resorts, so do we get to book ride reservations 7 days prior to the start of our stay, or 7 days prior to the 24th, or is the system going to be non existing until the 24th, or what??

@aussieragdoll4840

15 күн бұрын

@@DrStinkbomb I think, with the way they spoke… it is as of 17th we can book for 24th and beyond. I arrive really later at night on the 18th from Australia (possibly early hours of 19th). So I have the current system 19-23 July. Then the new system 24-31st (I fly hime on 1st August). So I can make those bookings from 17th July, just before I get on the plane on 18th.

@DrStinkbomb

15 күн бұрын

@@aussieragdoll4840 I *hope* that's how it works

Is this being implemented in Disneyland in California as well?

@TheMouselets

14 күн бұрын

It is not, just a name change there

👏👏👏👏

I like the 7 days early. So if I buy the multi pass and pick three ahead of time, can I add more? I think I can, but I'm confused. I guess I'll wait and see how the park hopping will work and the cost before I decide if this is a good change or not.

@aussieragdoll4840

16 күн бұрын

Sounds like you can AFTER you use the first reservation.

Still annoying that we are coming from the UK and can’t use it till we are there and actually liked Genie plus!!!

Just sell ride anytime fast pass for the day per ride or per park like Universal and pretty much every other theme park does.

The Disney World site says that you can book the 4th pass for a different park (park hopping).

So... is the VQ going the way of the -ahem- Dinosaur?

Thousands of people stay at Disney and most will buy this. (And you're kidding yourself if you don't think the prices aren't going up!) Season pass holders (Florida residents) will get the short end of the stick! For most teens & older there's only a few rides that are worth riding these days 🙄 I'm done with Disney because they can't seem to get anything right anymore!

Every day is someone elses 7 day window, so there is a strong risk that when your 7 days window is here, rides you want could be sold out! Then what? Take the crappy rides?

Why they didn’t bring back the Fastpass name? It was an easier name to get and understand.

So it’s like fast plus + except you pay for it

You love it? Let’s see what Disney actually did: 1. They eliminated the free version of Genie. Everyone must now pay. 2. If you’re an international visitor, you’re completely hosed. You can only book once you arrive in Florida. 3. They screwed anyone staying at the majority of official Disney “Good Neighbor” hotels. 4. If I book a 3 day stay and someone else booked a 10 day stay, those people get a 1 week head start on booking Lightning Lanes. That means that by the time my booking window opens EVERY LIGHTNING LANE MAY ALREADY BE BOOKED FOR MY ENTIRE STAY BEFORE I EVEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BOOK ONE! I might not be able to book a single attraction! Bottom line: Disney effectively just raised ticket prices by more than 30% and convinced you to be happy about it. Unbelievable.

I GREATLY prefer any system allowing me to plan ahead! Forget about all that 7am nonsense and living on my phone every minute of the day.

People complained that with Genie+ you could not plan in advance. Now people are complaining that you have to plan in advance.

@marcd1981

12 күн бұрын

The problem I see with the advance purchasing (7 days for hotel guests, 3 days for park only guests), is that they will all be purchased before you get in the park. How will this cut down on wait times for the rides / attractions? Maybe even more passes will be purchased because they can be a week ahead of time.

This is even worse. If multi pass users can choose before they come to the park, then what are the chances that attractions will have lightning lane booked solid for the whole day? This does not sound good at all.

If you live anywhere other the the USA you can not book untill you are in the States. 😢

YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY TO BOOK FAST PASS THAT IS JUST MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS

So I'll only be able to skip the lines of three rides the whole day?

@kayjay5143

16 күн бұрын

You book 3 in advance. Once you use one, you can book another one and so on…

Very happy to see that they put a system in place that is a little bit more manageable. Thanks Disney!

I will still not pay for this.

Hmm.

is this already available? Im going in July and I don't see the Lightning Lane stuff on there, it still asking me if I want to do Genie +

@TheMouselets

14 күн бұрын

July 24!

If they take away park hopping then this is definitely NOT better than Genie +

Make it free and you may have won some of us back Disney.....maybe...😊

Thank God. Retro wins

We've been seen all the variations of this over the years. This is definitely better than Genie+ which was a confusing system.

Just follow Disneyland and do away with all the planning ahead mess. Don’t allow any guests to book any lightning lanes until they walk through the park gates. Makes it more rewarding for those who actually go to the parks on time.

Leeloo multipass... multipass

So basically a fast pass system for rich

The fact that you have to book a ride is ridiculous. Thanks but I’ll stick with universal studios unlimited express pass. Whatever ride, whatever time, however many times you want. No booking required.

Yes because the best part of having fast passes is scheduling my whole experience and not being free to do anything else at anytime. I wanna go back to the ORIGINAL non-phone app fast pass.

Pay to get in the park at a ridiculous cost and pay to ride at a ridiculous cost. Same crap different toilet. Done with Disney. Bought universal Premier passes with 3 months free paid in full and got 20 percent off. I get free valet or prime parking in a garage! free HHN ticket, free express after 4pm, 15 percent off of everything at the parks, no reservations, passholder lounge all year round, passholder seating in park restaurants, passholder viewing areas, early park access. Got the 3 park premier for a family of 4 and it cost $3200. Have the incredi-pass and get nothing other than a $4800 yellow card and free parking. Disney sucks!

Still inferior to the Universal system. Just get rid of lightning lanes altogether. It works in Europa Park when you don’t have ride ops slowing down with fast pass people.

I am sorry but this is stupid. It just will require more planning and introduce once again the stupid rules from the previous system that truly made no sense. All Genie plus was the old free fastpass system that just had everything on your phone. Plus this aint going to improve nothing, it just gonna make it worse cause it will punish more those that have no clue about the parks and they still are paying for the service.

First thank u so much I did not now ❤❤❤

So if you live off site you are fucked as won't be any slots left fact

I’m sure everyone loved waking up at 6:50 AM every day on vacation to do Genie+. This was stupid. I’m not sure who thought it was a good idea, but they should have been fired.

Sounds like the Old FastPass+ system, which worked quite well, except now they are charging for it...Which is what they should have done instead of Genie in the first place.

No more waking up at 6:50am to book rides when on vacation!!!

I like this much better than the old geanie plus.

😂🤣Multi -Pass

Only the OCDs Disney lambs think this is easier and less complicated! Seriously?

The anti-consumer policies continue.

Hmm not sure how I feel about this change. I mean the bar is so low any change is good and I do like how they’re trying to keep people off their phones. HOWEVER I feel like changing the it back to lightning lane could be to seperate itself from genie plus despite having the same issues. Also I suspect this is partly why they destroyed the das system to pressure more people into buying into this new system out of desperation. Funny how they let hotel guests pre book 3 attractions when das used to let you pre book 2 attractions but not anymore. Even if this new system works I’m not giving Disney my money since they clearly don’t want disabled folk like myself at their parks. Universal is still king.

Ugh! Staying onsite at Disneyland it just not worth it like it is at Disney World. I never minded paying for on-site, deluxe in Disney World because those hotels are worth it, AMAZING! The on-site Disneyland hotels are just so average, nothing special. This is a total money grab to make us pay for the on-site Disneyland hotels.

Too late! I am not going back. It was way too much aggravation!

This sucks so bad.. I don't know what's this girl problem with Genie plus but it was better than this old version everybody had a chance to get rides now with this you actually have to rope drop because those tier one rides are probably gone so now you got to be at the park there's so many thi ngs wrong with this concept it's too long to explain but whatever crazy eyes

Who cares?

lol dont care. not going back

Before, when I purchased tickets, there were 2 fast rides included for each ticket, and all I had to do was go at the kiosk and schedule for available times. Is that gone?

@TheMouselets

14 күн бұрын

Hm I’m not familiar with what you’re talking about