Hans Niemaann : '' We can do a rematch and I can play naked if you want.''

@scottekoontz

8 ай бұрын

Magnus still distracted, blames the new "nude" rules.

@uthoshantm

8 ай бұрын

That won't do without a cavity search followed by a MRI

Magnus played poorly and was punished just as any player would be. Let's be honest; we wouldn't even be having this conversation if it was anyone other than MC.

@galaxygalaxy4429

8 ай бұрын

Magnus is totally right. I think this is going over your head.

@serghonest9

8 ай бұрын

Bro the Fide rules weren't being followed that's enough to have this conversation.

@mikeymcmikeface5599

8 ай бұрын

"seems to be against" Either it is or it isn't!!

@MickyBrownEye1

8 ай бұрын

@@galaxygalaxy4429 I think the problem is in Magnus's head, and not over my head. He said it himself that when he saw the watch he lost concentration.

@entelektuel.yolculuk

8 ай бұрын

​@@MickyBrownEye1idi.. t!!! Didn't ye read the tweet of Magnus in the beginning?

Honestly, wearing the watch could just be a psychological trick on part of the opponent. He's adjusting his cuffs, displaying his watch to Magnus repeatedly to psyche him out. Probably not, but who knows. Either way, watches of all kinds should be banned. You don't need it to play chess.

@incelsmad

8 ай бұрын

shut up Magnus fanboy

@pganesh8318

8 ай бұрын

​@@f4t1h07it's a chess match not a fashion show there is no need of any watch while playing chess and it's strictly against fide rules

@ninja8flash742

8 ай бұрын

@@pganesh8318 they also dont need clothes of any kind to play chess

@mevadavraj4178

8 ай бұрын

If it's legal in this tournament to wear analog watch then it's fair I guess,in many sports psychological wars are very common and i think it's part of the game

@DMRDEC

8 ай бұрын

What a load of bullshits! Carlsen played badly, he lost d game.

I dont think anybody in the world is brave enough to cheat right now against Magnus. It was an awesome victory, and the game of the year of this new young guy

@AdrianJamesEllis

8 ай бұрын

Sadly, I think the opposite is true; the kudos of beating Magnus is so strong that it's very tempting for a lot of mid-range GMs to cheat in order to beat him. Fortunately, most of them don't want to. It's worth remembering that men can be VERY competitive, to the point of self-destruction. For more on that, study professional cycling.

@fts3865

8 ай бұрын

It’s not about cheating, it’s about being professional and following the rules consistently

@jojoaja6106

8 ай бұрын

It's magnus play very bad, look at his pieces😅😅😅

@rajsub3884

8 ай бұрын

​@@AdrianJamesEllis stop hyping magnus he can never lose to gm even Nadal Federer had bad games they don't cry

@rikardandersson6652

8 ай бұрын

​@@AdrianJamesEllis😂

It is normal that he is distracted by the thoughts of what-ifs. No excuses for the loss though. However, I also don't understand why the opponent wanted to play with a watch and other accessories when in most tournaments they are banned.

@parthsavyasachi9348

8 ай бұрын

It seems smart watches were banned and not the analog ones here.

@gunhann

8 ай бұрын

@parthsavyasachi9348 I understand that, but how can you tell if it is smart or not anyway. This was a psychological advantage, I guess. But no excuses are needed for the loss.

@parthsavyasachi9348

8 ай бұрын

@@gunhann at this level, this should not be an excuse. These are the people who supposedly remember games played 50 years ago. Also analog watch is not a means to cheating. If he thought that the person is cheating then he should have said so. Magnus need to learn to take such loses.

@fadeighty2842

8 ай бұрын

@@parthsavyasachi9348 Now a days, you can't tell a gadget is a normal thing. Way back then, a GM shoes have a phone which he used for cheating, from there we can tell that it's only a shoes. In today's generation, where's technologies is more advanced like micro chip can be used to make a gadget, this will be a room for cheating.

@parthsavyasachi9348

8 ай бұрын

@@fadeighty2842 the watch hasn't gone anywhere and it could be examined. In this particular case though, if you follow chess chanels you will notice it takes computer some time before finding out best moves.

Magnus played a bit murky, thos knight manouvres were not proper. And his opponent mentioned he is a fan of Kasparov, so he maybe a tactical oriented player. I beleive that was a clean win.

@kewkabe

8 ай бұрын

Mostly he trapped his own rook on a8 that was doing nothing, so he was effectively giving his GM opponent an extra rook advantage that any GM could win.

@fahimhoq3166

8 ай бұрын

@@kewkabeagreed, he was virtually a rook down

@desarguesbaptiste5577

8 ай бұрын

I don't know if the win is clean or not. I will then assume it's clean but I still think Magnus is right about this one.

@joep6706

8 ай бұрын

​@@kewkabeyep...and basically a bad queen on top of it.

@ienjoyapples

8 ай бұрын

In hindsight with the help of an engine, it's easy for us to see that these were inaccurate moves. But the nature of this win is suspect. A human simply does not crush magnus, or any superGM, in this manner in a classical game. Can magnus lose? Of course. But not like this.

Magnus is right in saying that when your mind is distracted or disturbed; you cannot play property! All serious chess players know this !!!

@napoleonbonaparte4410

8 ай бұрын

Agree. Magnus should have taken his concern with the tournament officials before proceeding with the game.

@XmasTablet

8 ай бұрын

I think Magnus been watching too much Kpop stuff 😂🤣😍😘😗😙

@entelektuel.yolculuk

8 ай бұрын

​@@napoleonbonaparte4410don't be idiot!!! He saw the watch DURING the game, and immediately started thinking that he just might be playing against a chess engine, which are absolutely impossible to be defeated by a human.

@billj4525

8 ай бұрын

Well that's definitely true. You can play far far worse if you're distracted or not confident, tilting, or any of that. All chess players know that can affect you a ton, but Magnus is usually good at not letting his mental thoughts affect his play, but I guess in this instance it was a problem. You can definitely tell he wasn't playing well at all.

@entelektuel.yolculuk

8 ай бұрын

@@billj4525 are ye serious? Magnus was righteous in being distracted. Throughout the whole match, he thought to himself what if the opponent is cheating? What if he is right now playing against Stockfish in vain? We still don't know if the opponent cheated or not, don't forget. But anyways... Are ye really thinking about this chess matter, whereas Israel is bombing and killing thousands of Palestinian buildings and innocent peoples?? The whole world is shaking ... A humanity crime, a war crime is being committed, right now as I type these words; and instead of doing sth about it, still ye give chess serious thought? Man, I'd kindly request ye to check yer humanity level ... .

The crowd would distract me much more than his watch. Why do they always let everyone go there when the game is on?

Magnus should have stopped the clock and respectfully asked Alisher to remove his watch, bracelet, and ring. For tournaments to allow this is absurd, and also spectators walking around a few feet away is crazy too.

@maxh7637

8 ай бұрын

and also his jacket and pants

@tengu8560

8 ай бұрын

They should just play naked at this point

@kurtkaufmann4553

8 ай бұрын

Honestly, the answer would have been clear after the arbiter decided to let it go. They all speak kindly about Alisher but in my opinion as a true sportsman he would have taken it off himself after the issue with the arbiter. He simply decided to use it as a psychological strike. He is no sportsman to me, not at all! Shame on him

@jmf8279

8 ай бұрын

I agree with you when it comes to the spectators being way too close. However, if someone wants to wear a watch, as long as it’s not a smartwatch, I think it should be fine.

@Binahx86

8 ай бұрын

@@jmf8279 How did the arbiter know its not a smart watch? You can hide circuits in this thing; you can hide a smart watch inside an analogue watch, just because there is no LED screen doesn't mean it cannot in any way communicate with the wearer. Notice how he makes it obvious to Magnus, because it is part of his play.

Alisher the punisher. Great performance man.

480p? what is this, 1998?

What that woman was doing? I was shocked to see smartphones and so may people around.

Does the dude has a history? I have to say the tactical moves looked not too hard, but i am only 2000. I also got the feeling he was long in the book and got a great position just by making natural moves.

@billj4525

8 ай бұрын

Doesn't look super suspicious, but obviously no one knows for sure.

Touching his watch or other things like that could be also that he is nervous. Is like when a person speaks in front of a auditorium puts his hand in the pocket, touch his glasses repeatedly and so on.

@sholpanismailova5604

8 ай бұрын

great comment. Why do people think that only Magnus can be nervous about the clock, but no one thinks how nervous the young master is when playing with the World Champion?

good information 👍, I didn't know this before.

MC's comments are very equilibrate, this time. He is not accusing his opponent, he just tells a plain truth: he was disturbed because of the watch and the behaviour of Suleymenov, who repeatedly touches and adjusts it. This behaviour looks like a simple tic, non a trick; indeed Suleymenov has a real collection of tics, little gestures etc. Carlsen blames himself for not being able to "deal with those thoughts properly" and praises his opponent's play, while observing that his watch is allowed but not coherent with the recent battle FIDE has launched against cheating. I can't see anything offensive or unfair in his words.

@christophermarshall527

8 ай бұрын

Watching the game it's hard to tell that Magnus was getting wound up by the watch.

@bhaskarchakrabarty2420

8 ай бұрын

Well for starters would Magnus have mentioned it had he won ? Of course not !! It’s only when he loses that he looks for excuse & here he was wise enough to acknowledge his opponents brilliance else he would have faced more flak !! Thus Magnus is a poor sportsman & a very bad loser

@raulmontanari4387

8 ай бұрын

@@bhaskarchakrabarty2420 Dear Magnus hater, if MC would complain about an opponent's behaviour after a won game, you'd accuse him of bullying his opponent. And in any case it would be very strange on MC's part. When Fischer kept on insulting and making fun of the Soviet Federation and players even AFTER winning the title against Spasskij, his attitude seemed exaggerated - and was.

@bhaskarchakrabarty2420

8 ай бұрын

@@raulmontanari4387 Of course Magnus has some issues only after losing & that’s the point I was referring to. No I am not at all a Magnus hater but do hate to see the tantrums that he throws after losing

@DigonggongDutae

8 ай бұрын

@@raulmontanari4387 For some super GM's losing is a bit hard to swallow, especially that everyone around you is expecting an easy game and also to your mindset that you are an unbeatable machine, I am Magnus fan especially his no draw mentality, end game brilliancy & his unorthodox opening that only magnus can execute with an engine like accuracy, previously i found a games where Vishy, Aronian & even Anish are wearing watches, sometimes when you play bad you tend to find fault at your environment, it may or may not distract him, the bottom line he play poorly and his opponent play the game of his life, also familiarity with your opponent is also a factor as Magnus most probably does not have much knowledge or information on how his opponent execcutes a game, some super GM's are a hard losers, but i still believe Magnus can still pull this up and get the championship.

Truth be told, Magnus is still, hands down, the best player in the world, just not as dominant as he once was. Even in latest superGM events it's quite obvious that the gap between him and the rest of top players is closing, which is understandable, since he's now in his 30s and clearly lacking motivation when it comes to classical chess. Anyway, being a sore loser doesn't help. Just tweet "tough day at the office" and move on, like an adult.

@romd4031

8 ай бұрын

Great comment.

@travistucker4067

8 ай бұрын

Well said.

@ap24101988

8 ай бұрын

Wasn’t a sore loser. He admitted he got crushed he said he was put off by the watch because he is used to the rules and them not being allowed. I think Hikaru and the rest would have found it odd as well

@kelvinlucas1845

8 ай бұрын

@@ap24101988 you are blind follower. It's an full flagged excuse. It's like say "You won but my brain wasn't working so you can't really say you won". Pathetic and annoying

@maferreira1984

8 ай бұрын

@@ap24101988 Well, funny how when Alireza got mad at Tata Steel organizers because people were yelling at the playing hall and then arbiters *moved his game* during his thinking time in a critical position, he was called a cry baby and a drama queen... but Magnus claiming to be distracted by a watch is deemed plausible. People really should set aside double standards and look at things objectively.

Engine moves by this young player. Hope there is no cheating here, otherwise it would indicate a new era of unfairness and evil!

@kartikeyatiwari2502

8 ай бұрын

Magnus plays engine moves too, does it mean he is cheating?

@rajsub3884

8 ай бұрын

​@@kartikeyatiwari2502absolutely people think others are dozing all putting efforts

@billj4525

8 ай бұрын

Well all good players play engine moves, and even low rated grandmasters play engine moves a ton.

I mean why you need watch, there is watch running???

Imagine Carlsen in a WCC like Karpov vs Korchnoi. He would've had a heart attack on game 1.

@xxx333mmm

8 ай бұрын

why

@stagna1959

8 ай бұрын

Karpov had well known Soviet hypnotizer in playing hall. He was staring Korchnoi all the time. Korchnoi complained and arbiter asked the man to sit farther from players. Karpov ordered youghurt during the game and waiter brought him different kind of yoghurt every time. Korchnoi suspected it was some kind a coded message : play this or play that . Then Korchnoi started to wear huge mirrór like sunglasses to block hypnotizing brain waves. Karpov complained, whenever he watched his opponent he saw his own huge distorted images on sunglasses. Then Korchnoi brought some religious sect persons who bragged that they have magic powers to influence people from distance. Karpov complained and they were evicted when when it was discovered that they were out on bail for the attempted murder of an Indian diplomat Crazy times in Bagio . It became even worse when Karpov lost game 28, game 29 and game 31 and score was suddenly 5-5.( 6 wins to win a title, draws are not counting ) Korchnoi claimed he feared for his life and KGB had order to murder him if Karpov would be close to lose 6th game and world title. But Karpov won game 32 and kept his title. Decades later mortal enemies even shook hands which they refused to do in Baguio. They never became friends, but at least they respected each other

@ghestenoliveira1686

8 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@entelektuel.yolculuk

8 ай бұрын

​@@stagna1959KGB dealimg with chess?? 😂😂 Why the hell? Chess and chess titles are sth too small, too unnecessary and too wothless of a thing to be bothered with,,fer agent and government officials

@ikarusxv

8 ай бұрын

Or against Fischer

Why not play again. To clear your doubts

Alisher's watch is distracting and Magnus's hair is not??

Wearing Watch detects disturb the minds of a prayer

I refuse to beleive that the Organization did not examine that watch...

Excitement reached fever pitch as a moth flew in

Magnus is happy with everything till he loses

@edwincollins5847

8 ай бұрын

Good to know you are one of those who are happy when they lose. That’s why he is there and you are in the comment section getting a degree in internet warrior

@lordtouchme77

8 ай бұрын

​@@edwincollins5847 speaking of internet warrior... do you have any mirror in your house?

@edwincollins5847

8 ай бұрын

@@lordtouchme77 gosh I mean ….. I have a full body one. Why do you ask?

@tengu8560

8 ай бұрын

@@edwincollins5847don’t you freak out when you see yourself in the mirror and jump off the cliff when you see that face?

Next: Magnus Carlsen loss the game because his opponent wearing clothes

@steelsteez6118

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

I see nude chess as having a big future..

@fahimhoq3166

8 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

After seeing this video I can understand why Magnus was distracted by his watches. He is touching them all the time and wearing other gadgets as well like ring and bracelet. And if you think of it what the player really needs is just for example C2 signal for a position so just some kind of small vibration 3 times as C on his watches followed by 2 vibrations of his ring.... I am not saying he was cheating but totally understandable that this is very distracting and even that kind of distraction (especially if it is against the rules) is not totally fair play.

@halo-xt7by

8 ай бұрын

Yes bro your right 👍 ,many stupids here in chat 🤧 doesn't understand and are mocking him.

@ninjateka1549

8 ай бұрын

This makes no sense, following your logic everything could be a potential cheating device, and by that ur opponent could also complain about it, whats gonna be next? Wearing clothes? "Oh, he was touching his coat too much, and it was distracting me", that's just an excuse for the lack of concentration which magnus didnt has

i want to buy that kind of watch!

هذا تبرير للهزيمة اللعب اجتهد وفاز بطريقة رائعة ومميزة أعتقد انها افضل هزيمة لكارسن 😂 لا تبخسو مجهدات هذا الشاب المنيزة اتمناء له توفيق ونجاح انت رائعة ❤ مبارة من اجمل مشاهدة 🎉

Didn't Hans Niemann beat Magnus fair and square, over the board in Sinquefield cup and dude claimed that he was cheated. Magnus is a sore loser, even a smart watch won't give anybody that huge edge in chess. Every chess player knows that sometimes you beat those much higher than you in the rankings and vice versa. I get sick of these accusations in chess especially over the board, it's disgusting. If it was on online, then the accusations can be worth looking into

@jocachess

8 ай бұрын

nothing has been proven....Carlsen acts like a sore loser. This harms chess!

Isn't wearing a (permitted) analog watch an appropriate reply to Magnus' usual tactic of intimidation: arriving late, taking his time to sort the pieces, and generelly demonstrating a very high level of confidence, in addition to his reputation as "goat". So if other players cannot concentrate because of all this, it gives Magnus usually an advantage which was simply missing in this game here. The title of the video unfairly diminishes Alisher Suleymenov's performance in the game.

He's going to accuse everyone of cheating now that people are figuring him out

@jorgesalgado1196

8 ай бұрын

Yo a puesto q vos ni siquiera podes jugar bien al ajedrez ni mucho menos las reglas del ajedrez,,

Bobby Fisher would have stopped the game until everybodies watch were gone.

I will wear watch in both the hands 🙌 next time

la información pasa del reloj a la mano, luego de la mano a la cabeza, cuando arregla su cabello ?

no blue tick?

Every body know MG is the best, but this time the excuse of an normal clock ((watch) as everyone can appreciate it in the actual video) it is out of place, sounds like a big excuse.

To beat Magnus, all you have to do is to tattoo your wrist with a watch and witness Magnus suffer a nervous breakdown 😊

I think it is just finding excuses after the loss. Anyway, congratulations to Suleymenov. Hopefully, he beat a couple more Elite players.

@official_tytn5501

8 ай бұрын

Bro wearing a watch is literally against the rules 💀

@stockmarketbasics773

8 ай бұрын

digital not analog . it was analog watch @@official_tytn5501

@parthsavyasachi9348

8 ай бұрын

​@@official_tytn5501bro arbiters decide that.

@PrayogiCristian

8 ай бұрын

Most of tournament don't allow any watches.

Ese chico llevaba bolas calientes...lo del reloj ha sido para despistar...y el sacrificio del caballo no se lo cree nadie !! Hace falta un espeleólogo en la sala para examinar los orificios antes de jugar !!

To me it looks like he isn't used to wearing a watch. He always fiddled with it.

@nastyc6052

8 ай бұрын

True,i wear my watch all the time i hardly notice it unless im checking the time,this guy just wouldn't sit still kept on touching it endlessly it quiet questionable

@spasshky

8 ай бұрын

I am wearing watch all the time and i too have this habit of constantly adjusting it and it's probably happening when you are nervous. Nothingh suspicious about the watch here.

@sholpanismailova5604

8 ай бұрын

he's nervous playing against the World Champion, Magnus himself, that's obvious

This guy was just so fidgety just would make a move without touching his collar

is this the first Magnus's opponent wearing a watch since he was a baby? does Magnus even know official chess rules?

@krishnaprabhakar526

8 ай бұрын

Most of tournaments including World Cup and world championships do not allow any watch ; digital or analogue . In India also no watches are allowed in any Tournament

A suspicious looking watch, readjusting that watch often, a black bracelet, a black metal ring on the index finger .... very suspicious indeed!

@theantinatalismzone392

8 ай бұрын

Obviously cheating devices

@scriptranda2670

8 ай бұрын

Yes, He cheated, but not with the watch but with his brain..

Stop writing these types of titles there is no proof of magnus losing bcoz of Alisher's watch Alisher won fair and square.

IMAGINE LOSING TO A WATCH

He is playing wth his watch everytime its his move. hmmmm if you have a thick watch im pretty sure its a smart watch !

If his opponent would have worn fat headphones, well, that might have been a reason to be irritated…

You don't fiddle with clothing or accessories that you wear all the time. It's immediately obvious the watch is not comfortable, ergo, it is not something he usually wears. The rest of the investigation can be continued by someone else. I've already done all the heavy work.

Magnus cannot digest a loss against a lower-rated player. It's as simple as that.

The rants are valid but not the perfect timing after losing.

Are silent farts allowed in chess?

lol that was a brilliant tactical move to wear a big shiny watch like that and keep it right on the champion's face the whole time. Magnus was thinking about that watch 90% of the time.

come on magnus ..just accept t..u r human! dont do that every time u loose

it looks indeed irritating. the guy also did not take off his long heavy jacket throughout. others were sitting with t-shirts.

@wolfgangwiesinger9502

8 ай бұрын

And he looks like a cheater too 😅

Magnus is just distracting the audience that the loss is because of opponent watch.😂😂😂. He is a genius . But this kind of tweets at such level is disgusting

How to beat the GOAT #1 Magnus Carlsen: 1. Wear a watch. 2. Show it to Magnus during the game.

Everyone is talking about Alisher's Clock. But where Magnus is constantly running is suspicious.🤣🤣🤣

Im a fan of carlsen but this kind of shit is what made me take niemanns side in the whole alleged cheating scandal with no sort of evidence

At 00:40 he messes with a devices that no one is talking about

Magnus should Stop crying just he has influence he makes random assumption he is not greater than chess fanboy should stop protecting him

Tiktoktiktoktiktok said the watch.

Near 100% Stockfish... with a watch?

What watch he is wearing. I want to get one too !!! 😂 More stylish and trendy when beating elite players....😅😊

The watch vibrates!

@dipshayam2768

8 ай бұрын

Can you explain how a "vibrating" (as you magnus fanboys are saying) analogue watch helps a player in cheating?

@afnadalam4112

8 ай бұрын

​@@dipshayam2768you're forgetting that he's not a 800, only few moves are enough for him to get over magnus

Magnus stop crying all the time. Retire and Leave the game with dignity not by crying okay

I don't understand why the anti cheating protocols can't be followed at this level of chess.

@symbarh

8 ай бұрын

they are being followed

@coniccinoc

8 ай бұрын

@@symbarh Delay broadcast, no smart phones near play and no watches are all part of anti cheating protocol. None of these measures were followed.

@symbarh

8 ай бұрын

@@coniccinoc no ELECTRONIC devices (smart phone, electronic watch, etc) Analog watch is not electronic

@vandy3427

8 ай бұрын

​@symbarh there's no way to prove that it didn't have a cheating device inside the watch

@symbarh

8 ай бұрын

@@vandy3427 there is also no way to prove magnus's shoes didnt have a cheating device inside them

Magnus tends to play some fantasy, in this case passive, openings, against lower rated opponents, so many pieces still on the back line after some 20 moves. This time he was distracted and could not get his concentration back against his excellent opponent.

I think the cheating device was located in his hairs.

@uthoshantm

8 ай бұрын

Agree, I saw his hair vibrating at critical moments in the game.

if magnus doesn't accuse him cheating, so he is clean

и после этого говорит что часы на него повлияли ? то есть не эта Толпа людей со смартфонами а возможно у некоторых и со вспышкой , а часы да ? вы серьезно???? пфффф…

When Carlsen wins .... smartphones... watches... don't matter.... he is hypocrit

@kelvinlucas1845

8 ай бұрын

He feels like he is unbeatable. Loss in chess is brutal for my 1700 self talk more of the number 1 in the world. He should just stop making an annoying statement everytime he loses. Imagine if everytime he beats someone, they make a cheating-like claim. It's absurd. Cry in your bathroom and comeback stronger. What he does is bs

@lordtouchme77

8 ай бұрын

​@@kelvinlucas1845 magnus fans: BUt HE onLy LosT BEcAusE hIs OPpoNenT WAs shOWiNg HiS WatCH TO MAgnOOsE.

@kelvinlucas1845

8 ай бұрын

@@lordtouchme77 pathetic. He is literally saying he's mentally weak if he can't manage tiny distractions. He actually portraying an image of a sheltered being that can only perform when everything is for him. I know he is the GOAT (one of) but these claims are ridiculous.

@halo-xt7by

8 ай бұрын

​@@kelvinlucas1845😂 🤣 if u r wise GM then you have right to speak this way .so shutup and magnus will do better on in next games

Magnus is a poor loser. He played poorly this game with several sub-par moves. Whining by way of tweets is sooo bush league. St. Louis chess club has the highest level of security and he still cried that Hans Niemann was cheating. And now this. He lost because he didn't play his best and his opponent DID play his best. My respect for Magnus keeps dropping.

Unfortunately, Suleymenov's non-verbal behaviour is unnatural. It doesn't mean he was cheating but it's unnatural. He touches and fiddles with his watch repeatedly. By odd coincidence, his watch is often angled to point at the board. It is also a large watch, with a thick base. He's also places it as far forward on his arm as possible, to the point where it would be uncomfortable to wear, but this keeps its face visible. At 3:38, before he makes a critical move, he touches and fiddles with his watch excessively. At 4:02, after he's made the crucial move, he relaxes and no longer places his watch, facing the table. Perhaps it's all nervous tics, but if I was playing him, it would certainly concern me.

@kasparov9944

8 ай бұрын

Why did he feel the need to wear a watch? And why touch it so much? If it was uncomfortable, why not take the watch off? Maybe he was just nervous, but I would hate to beat the No.1 player in the world and then get accused because of my watch....it's much easier to just not wear it.

entire comment section Roasting Magnus... or bullying him..but truth is Alisher cheat to beat Magnus.

magnus has a point

I dont thing this kid can win again any game against Magnus Magnus will destroy him

Magnus,must understand, sometimes, he will lose games against weaker 3:40 player ,everyone in chess lose against low rated player

Stupedh Magnus... Stop trying to find a reason to justify your loss!!! Your opponent played better... END OF STORY 🎉

*Then i will wear 2 watches* 😂😂😂😂

Now everyone who faces Magnus will wear a watch

So why you need metal detectors when you can wear an iron bulk watch, i dont say he was cheating but with todays technology any chinese basement electronic gig will make you watch that gives an impulses what ever you wish , Magnus was right, but he didn't need to tweet this shit .

@emmienoel9106

8 ай бұрын

If he doesnt tweet it, how will they stop the allowance of devices including watches I'm tournaments like this . And his tweet was proper not an accusation

@l.d.t.6327

8 ай бұрын

@@emmienoel9106he only tweets this when he loses.

@parthsavyasachi9348

8 ай бұрын

​@@emmienoel9106did you know that magnus actually complained to the arbitrator and he told magnus that it was allowed and within the rules. Just because you are misinformed doesn't mean organisers are too.

dude's acting annoying af how can anyone not be distracted

Magnus only loses to cheaters. The vibrating watch trick.

@incelsmad

8 ай бұрын

cope Magnus fanboy

@freefall9832

8 ай бұрын

@@incelsmad Magnus exposes cheaters every time he loses.

@incelsmad

8 ай бұрын

@@freefall9832 he hasn't exposed shit except for the fact that any company working with him will shill for him despite the fact that they found zero evidence of him cheating over the board

@freefall9832

8 ай бұрын

@incelsmad Magnus saw the vibrating watch and knew he got cheated.

@uthoshantm

8 ай бұрын

​@@incelsmadI understand this comment as being sarcastic 😂

It's impossible to defeat Karlson without cheating.

@jocachess

8 ай бұрын

...Carlsen acts like a sore loser. This harms chess!

Literally, nobody touches their watch that often. Magnus is in peak form, beating super-GM tournaments left and right. Magnus needs to be careful with accusations but I mean with Hans he was right - Hans is a proven cheater.

@l.d.t.6327

8 ай бұрын

He wasn’t “right” with Hans. He was a sore loser with regards to the game he lost against Hans.

@thedoorsbest

8 ай бұрын

No he was not. Talking about that particular game he lost against him. No evidence. Same as here. I really admire Magnus, but come on, this is nonsense.

@blablablub5970

8 ай бұрын

players touching their faces playing chess all the time, is that suspicious too? when I wear a watch, which i rarely do, I also touch it often, even without playing chess. Besides that, this is a compilation of a long game ...

@dayuhansworld3864

8 ай бұрын

I like Magnus but with Hans Neiman, he never proven anything because it was settled off court. Magnus is just a sore loser when beaten by a much lower rated players.

@rumaulia2709

8 ай бұрын

Magnus is not in peak form. He didn't win a single classical game in norway chess, his rating dropped to all-time low in a decade, and no conclusive evidence was found in that particular game against Hans.

Kalah yaaa kalah ... 😂😂😂

dont allow watches for the rest of the tournament if alisher lost all the remaining games we know magnus was right

@scottekoontz

8 ай бұрын

If Magnus wins all the rest of the matches, he started to cheat. No wait, if he loses any more his cheating device ran out of battery. Magnus was wrong about Hans, but at least he didn't outright blame his loss on the opponent cheating this time.

@vandy3427

8 ай бұрын

​@@scottekoontzThere's no way to prove or disprove the Hans situation. However, the evidence against Hans strongly suggests that he was cheating.

@scottekoontz

8 ай бұрын

@@vandy3427 Correction: The evidence against Hans cheating OTB does not exist. Nada. None. Zilch. There is NO evidence, so stop pretending that there is. This is a silly "but we gots some other player done say so" game.

@vandy3427

8 ай бұрын

@@scottekoontz Exhibit A: Hans has a past history of cheating.

@scottekoontz

8 ай бұрын

@@vandy3427 HA HA HA, so that means he cheated OTB!! You guys are too much, or more likely too little. Sure, he cheated OTB because of that. Yup.

He just make an excuse like what he did to poor hans just accept your lost and don't devalue the work of others 😢

Who agrees Magnus is being a bum over this?👇

If I was Magnus I would not play this event anymore when it's finished.

Magnus is not god he is player like other so any GM can beat him

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Completely inhuman play. Nxf7 is elo 3700 not 2500 lol

@incelsmad

8 ай бұрын

you're 800 elo

@theantinatalismzone392

8 ай бұрын

@@incelsmad Oh yeah so youre saying a human could crush Carlsen like this?

@incelsmad

8 ай бұрын

@@theantinatalismzone392 I'm saying he did crush a human like this

@theantinatalismzone392

8 ай бұрын

@@incelsmad Without cheating? Are you nuts? Look at the way he fondles the watch

@hampten23

8 ай бұрын

Nxf7 is 3700 move? C'mon bro. Even a CM would've spotted that

There was cheating in that play for not so sure of course. But right now cheating is a real issues within chess. Anybody making himself a target for speculation is stupid or cheating.

Magnus needs to stop making these weak excuses. It makes me not respect him.

Magnus is beating GMs left and right and suddenly he loses. It can't be. We don't know, but maybe there was foul play. I was even suspicious in MVL match in the AI masters. Magnus beat hikari, wesley, nepo like cake and then suddenly loses to MVL ? That too two times. The thing is, GMs don't need to be told the exact moves for cheating. They just need to know whether their current move is good according to the engine or not. Which means this message can be conveyed using a blink of eye or bead or even analog watches. It's a possibility.

@incelsmad

8 ай бұрын

shut up Magnus fanboy

@HostaMahogey-if4hp

8 ай бұрын

If you think losing to MVL is suspicious you don't know anything.

@danielndobe1257

8 ай бұрын

What are you trying to say about MVL? Nepo beat Giri who beat Hikaru and those matches were not close. Why couldn't MVL have beaten Magneto the way he did?

@stagna1959

8 ай бұрын

When move is made, it is useless to know whether it was good , suboptimal or blunder. You cant take it back. Cheating means if player knows beforehand whether his planned move is good or bad. To know that, he has to communicate with engine :" I intend to play 19. e5." And engine gives green light in code : it is the best move in this position . BTW, Suleimanov played 19.e5 in real game and after that black position became critical. Carlsen replied with another suboptimal 19...d5 and it became hopeless. I am 99.99 % sure Suleimanov was not cheating though.

Magnus should stop giving excuses and indirectly accusing his opponent after his losses...That tactic won't work anymore...For everyone has eyes on him...