See the timestamps below. Quick note from Lex: The camera on Magnus died 20 minutes in. Most folks still just listen to audio-only version, but here on KZread, we did our best to still make it interesting to watch & listen by adding image overlays. I mess things up sometimes, like in this case, and it hits me hard when I do. But I'm always working hard to improve. I hope you understand. Thank you for your patience and support along the way. I love you all. 0:00 - Introduction 0:51 - Greatest soccer player of all time 7:57 - Magnus's approach to chess 17:10 - Game 6 of the 2021 World Chess Championship 21:12 - Chess openings 33:35 - Chess960: Fischer random chess 38:37 - Chess variants 41:22 - Elo Rating 49:48 - World Chess Championship 1:14:00 - Losing 1:21:22 - Day in the life 1:28:12 - Drunk chess 1:32:43 - Chess training 1:40:37 - Garry Kasparov 1:49:54 - Greatest chess player of all time 2:03:06 - Advice for chess players 2:04:49 - Chess KZreadrs 2:08:20 - Henrik Carlsen 2:13:55 - Lessons for life 2:17:19 - Queen's Gambit 2:19:10 - Poker 2:25:24 - Loneliness 2:28:45 - How does the knight move? SPONSORS: - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get 14-day free trial - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil - Fundrise: fundrise.com/lex - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off

@martinbravo1301

Жыл бұрын

ty bro

@dmupster

Жыл бұрын

its okay lex ily

@pratikc

Жыл бұрын

No worries! Just keep 'em coming! :D

@iJizzInYourMouth

Жыл бұрын

Love you lex

@bp56789

Жыл бұрын

I promise you, you’re 1000x more annoyed at this than anyone who watches the video. Great content, as usual.

I've seen this Magnus fellow somewhere. Can't put my finger on it

@chan7an

Жыл бұрын

There was an attempt

@calebtyhowell2087

Жыл бұрын

Agadmator! pause the video to find the winning move!

@gabriellvig2377

Жыл бұрын

Sorry about that

@simonlaplace9790

Жыл бұрын

Lex at the beginning of the podcast: "Sorry about that"

@hampsonmealey

Жыл бұрын

The crossover we all need

"Currently my rating is 2861, which is decent" - Magnus 😂

@luke31ish

Жыл бұрын

Mine is at 1515, dreaming to get into 1800's. 2861 seems ok I guess 🙂

@mitch-lawless

Жыл бұрын

This is the most Magnus thing Magnus has ever said.

@smmshoe

Жыл бұрын

@@luke31ish 1515 is good

@wadeboggs5163

Жыл бұрын

I have the same rating as his Dad, “which is really low.” That one hurt a little, I have to say.

@interstellarbeatteller9306

Жыл бұрын

"My current rating is 750, which is disgusting" - Me

Lex. Please invite Magnus again. Such an inspiration to me. Not just in chess

@Cholaspen

Жыл бұрын

May I ask how else? I’m not too familiar with him outside of chess, and I’m not a huge chess player either.

@Zirks

11 ай бұрын

@@Cholaspen he plays poker

@asiamies9153

9 ай бұрын

@@Cholaspen Persona?

@donut5143

Ай бұрын

he's white @@Cholaspen

Without a doubt, one of the best interviews I’ve ever heard. After 2 hours, I admire Magnus even more than before. He’s thoughtful, articulate, and seems to be extremely Centered.

@christianwilborn4620

Жыл бұрын

& now you don’t remember a single thing about this conversation

@parascitzo9455

Жыл бұрын

@@christianwilborn4620 Just because you have a shitty memory doesn't mean that he has

@LanceWillMakeIt

Жыл бұрын

I bet you both forgot about this video

@Blinkers2007GameDev

Жыл бұрын

Yessir

@El_IF_B_2

Жыл бұрын

unlike his King

Amazing interview with the best!

@chesster5981

Жыл бұрын

First, why didn’t lex use the other camera

@lms904

Жыл бұрын

Hikaru is the best. Magnus is overrated.

@atomsam2676

Жыл бұрын

@@lms904 literally don't even care..

@Alias_Ex

Жыл бұрын

Did you know that Magnus Charlsenn id the best checkers player in the world?

@Ludwig_Van_Aristossine

Жыл бұрын

@@lms904 who knows, they are both the goats

1:59:58 “What is beautiful to me Is when your opponent can predict every single one of your moves, and they still lose” - Magnus Carlsen Fascinating mind, fascinating personality! Great, great work, dear Lex Friman. Excellent interview.

@vibovitold

Жыл бұрын

Carlsen, not Carlson

@lourencobtt

Жыл бұрын

@@vibovitold, edited. Thanks.

@juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454

Жыл бұрын

that's terrifying

"When your opponent can predict every single one of your moves, and still lose" That's a stone cold killer quote. Profound when it comes to chess because it's the worse way to lose a game at any elo, you know where they're trying to attack but either you lose track of the sequence on one single move and lose, or you just don't have the capability to counter their attack.

@aureliusfeynman485

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I came upon instances where I kept staying in a kind of "extended zugzwang" state, most certainly out of lack of positional insight and strength. In fact, when I think of it, this usually happens when I'm severely outclassed by an opponent with a very dominant positional style.

Wow, a remarkable conversation. Thank you for coming to this podcast, Magnus!

I almost can't believe the amount of interesting people you've had on your podcast recently. You're the man Lex. Love your work.

I’ve genuinely been waiting for Lex to interview Magnus for years. This was a real treat to see.

@txnygotw

Жыл бұрын

To "see".

@akattom

Жыл бұрын

as opposed to waiting for lex to interview magnus, fakely?

@jacobsykes8467

Жыл бұрын

​@@akattom Yes -- as in: "I'm not using hyperbole when I say that I have been waiting for years for this interview."

@shlyfe8346

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobsykes8467 chess players... You will always find people who tries to show everyone how much smarter they are than you under chess videos.

@johnnycharisma162

Жыл бұрын

Where have you been waiting? A bus stop?

One of the best podcast episodes I've ever had the pleasure to listen to. You should try to bring Magnus back for another episode with the camera working. I'd love to see him explain some chess to you over the board while talking more about his interesting perspectives on life.

You have a remarkable way of bringing out the authentic side of your guests Lex. Thank you for doing these, I get so much enjoyment out of these conversations.

HOLY! As a norwegian who loves Magnus Carlsen, and as a guy who loves Lex, this was an unexpected pleasure!

@MilNORtop10

Жыл бұрын

Samme her as, gøy

@OwlSpinning

Жыл бұрын

Samme her også! Artig! Nice guest Lex!

@MrCaveman366

Жыл бұрын

Samme her, det her var artig.

@Woozlewuzzleable

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't surprised, it was always meant to be.

@roejogan8247

Жыл бұрын

Helt nydelig!!

The way Magnus looks at his relationship with chess and other people is so incredibly mature. I think it sometimes come off as arrogant but that is absolutely not what he is. He is fascinating.

@themeach011

Жыл бұрын

The best in the world are often viewed as cocky or arrogant, but that is typically only people that don't understand what it takes to achieve that level. I've wondered if that attitude is a result of the success and confidence they have or whether you need that attitude to be that good. I suspect it's a bit of both. I compete at a fairly high level in my sport so I see the same thing that you are saying in the elite in my sport but I definitely feel like I don't mistake it for something negative.

@jonegeland5036

Жыл бұрын

Arrogance is a false sense of superiority and thats not the case with Magnus. He just is superior and has a down to earth relationship with it, not going for the false humility thingy.

@Xplora213

Жыл бұрын

He’s had a long time to put away his feelings properly.

@maxkho00

Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad people here are able to see it so easily. Everywhere else I go, I see people calling that attitude arrogant when it's just so not. There's a general sentiment within the chess community that to some extent Magnus, but especially so Hikaru is arrogant and has a big ego when that's so far from the truth. They are both simply a combination of very competitive, aware of their strengths and weaknesses, and objective in judgment. People who lack one or more of these qualities will mistake this combination for arrogance, so I'm very glad that there are at least some people out there who don't make the same mistake.

@nonchablunt

Жыл бұрын

his rudeness rating is well in the GM-range.

So glad to find Magnus was such an accessible personality. so enjoyable a listen that the camera failure went practically unnoticed.

While I was watching a video , I got an ad about a podcast and how if you 'paid for it' , you would get so many life changing lessons . That's when I realized the magnitude of the great work that Lex is doing, because he puts out the kind of content for which I would happily pay 10 times the amount charged by others, completely free on youtube. And in yesterday 's episode when the topic about Magnus was brought up, I secretly wished how amazing it would be if Magnus was invited to the podcast, and lo and behold there he is ! Simply amazing!

@faintsherin4468

Жыл бұрын

Watch or Listen to Huberman's podcast as well, those videos are goldmine!

@razinmuntasir6926

Жыл бұрын

In which video and what part?

@ItIsYouAreNotYour

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking about KZread ads? He doesn't pick those.

Imagine that, the number one chess player in the world, possibly the greatest of all time, having impostor syndrome over coming on Lex's podcast. What a humble, down to earth guy. He's a real one for sure! Smashed it Lex 👌💪♟🔥

@saucymew

Жыл бұрын

Do you have a time stamp of where he mentions this?

@thomassag

Жыл бұрын

@@saucymew The very end :)

@MrYounis26

Жыл бұрын

If he thinks that then imposter syndrome's spell is getting broken from my eyes.

@johnmcmillen4540

Жыл бұрын

well, i don't think having an imposter syndrome equals to being humble. Magnus seems to me not at all humble. Brutally honest for sure, but not humble. In one of his banter blitz sessions he mentioned it himself: He even takes being called "modest" or "humble" as an insult. Maybe his "nonchalant" attitude in such encounters like here creates a bit an impression of modesty...

@TheAluvisify

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmcmillen4540 I'm 99% sure Magnus was being sarcastic when he said that line. I mean, he couldn't agree with the person calling him humble since that sounds less humble than anything else.

I am dreaming of reaching Magnus level of objectivity. Insane. I thoroughly enjoyed the interview both on entertainment and content interest level. One world: thanks.

So enjoying your calm, respectful, long-form interviews. It's such a joy to hear such well-informed questions and intriguing discussions with fascinating people. Just found you recently but I'm catching up on old shows!

I really love how open Magnus is about sharing his thought process and feelings. He seems pretty self reflected and it's nice to see that he isn't timid to say that he is much better than player X and so on.

@maxkho00

Жыл бұрын

It seems to be a theme among chess players. Hikaru also has this trait. Even Danya, who is known to be very neurotic, will openly admit his lower-rated opponent just played better than him and deserved to win. It really does seem like chess fosters objectivity, and it's not just a cliché.

@dulisha

Жыл бұрын

@@maxkho00 chess can be very humbling game lol maybe that is one of the reasons

@0willow0

Жыл бұрын

@Despize Perform deterministic for all intents and purposes is meaningless for human and even the strongest computer chess. It's ceiling of complexity will never be reached by human players, at least not until science can create 1000IQ humans somehow. In theory it should be solvable, but for now to say it's deterministic is pedantic and meaningless.

@Aka47xxx

Жыл бұрын

I think he's actually pretty devoid about anything but chess.

@tongpoo8985

Жыл бұрын

@@0willow0 he just means there is no element of randomness so you have no one to blame but yourself for a loss. Try to understand the meaning of someone's words before insulting them

Just listened on this now - wow what an excellent interview it was, touching on so many different things and really showed what an humble and great guy Magnus is.

I'm imagining the moment Lex realized the camera had not been recording so early into the interview. Must be pure anguish. Anyway, thanks Lex for going through many apparent and unseen hardships for bringing this content to us. I appreciate your genuineness.

Magnus is probably the greatest chess champion we could have ever asked for. I mean really, the answers given by magnus was such a bliss to hear. Very deep , meaningful and well thought answers. He was super friendly throughout the interview. No arrogance but just stating factual why he is the greatest. I will and forever will consider magnus to be the best world champion of chess. Fischer sort of made it seem that to be soo good in chess , you have to sort of sacrifice mental health which wasnt very appealing while kasparov made it seem that you have be arrogant and outright rude to others to make yourself feel like the best but magnus isnt arrogant , rude nor delusional. Despite being the WC, he made chess seem fun and an easily accessible sport. Imagine fischer or kasparov playing bullet chess with his friends drunk while on twitch or live streaming and winning an online chess tournament while sitting in a hot tub live on stream. Magnus is truly the GOAT

@vibovitold

Жыл бұрын

Indeed I can't imagine Kasparov playing bullet or blitz drunk, calling his opponents "morons", showing them middle finger, and what's more posting this publicly for everyone to see. So arrogant, that guy

@bhaveshdas7819

Жыл бұрын

@@vibovitold that's great and all, but its not like he's objectively wrong lmao. He still kicks their ass even after being flat out drunk

@Ram-zm6og

Жыл бұрын

It's because he has imposter syndrome. He knows there is more to life than chess.

@interstellarbeatteller9306

Жыл бұрын

..but you also have to imagine if Morphy, Kasparov & Fischer had 3000+ rated engines to work with, and decades of tested theory to use. I prefer to say there's a bunch of GOATS who made their mark on Chess history & it's a pleasure to watch Magnus in real time

@vibovitold

Жыл бұрын

@@bhaveshdas7819 the comment i responded to claimed that Carlsen - as opposed to Kasparov - isn't arrogant or rude. which isn't really true, as Carlsen often engages in behavior that's far from classy, whether in informal situations or formal ones (like angrily storming out of press conference after Karjakin's win in their WC match) i'm not questioning that he's beating people left and right, but that has nothing to do with character or professional conduct. "You're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole"

This was a great interview. Magnus is kind of hard to interview because most people who interview him are quite ignorant of high level chess, so most questions fall flat. Great job.

@killpioo2

Жыл бұрын

Lex is such a good interviewer.

@JunkBondTrader

Жыл бұрын

Lex isn't a high level chess player, he's a complete beginner. And these are very basic, beginner chess questions. Not that I'm complaining. They're the right questions for Lex, and his audience. But I enjoyed the parts of the interview where chess conversation led to other philosophical ideas about life.

@McPvPMaster

Жыл бұрын

@@JunkBondTrader Okay

@besmart2350

5 ай бұрын

@@JunkBondTraderit’s just a game, nothing special to be philosophical about it. Anyone who spends thousands of hours playing it, practicing it and learning the theory behind it can become high level. Nothing special, just like any other game

I love to hear from absolute masters in their field like this also, as a non-chess fan (but huge admirer of strategy games in general, even though i suck at them) this was very easy to follow despite quite a lot of in depth chess talk nice work!

i liked hearing magnus talk about engines, i wondered how the fact that everyone has access to top level engines influences the game / playing field and hearing him say it becomes a lot more about surprising your opponent and taking them down a path they aren't ready for

Wow, this is by far the best interview with Magnus Carlsen I've ever heard! Great job! :)

As a watcher on KZread and avid chess player who follows the professional circuit having the camera die on Magnus 20 min in was kind of like an “aw man” moment but I’m an adult so I got over it in the next five seconds and am just happy that Lex got to Magnus and was able to get that much of magnus’s time. Literally no one gets that much of his time. Mag is easily the most exciting player to watch just cruise around playing online bullet chess. It’s hard not to like him when he is so brilliant but there are other players who are worth mentioning along with Magnus in today’s chess. Personally, i am a big Wesley so fan, Danil Dubov...Levon Aronian...wow so many....thanks for the pod lex!!!

@BAMBICIDESEED

Жыл бұрын

To me it seems like the imposter syndrome thing meant he didn’t want people to see his facial expressions because they give a lot away in chess

Incredible person! Magnus is so humble and open. You can see that he’s not just the best chess player in the world, but a really nice guy

FANTASTIC interviewer!! I love that you opened the conversation with football, basketball, and overall questions about personal philosophy. It is a refreshing starter for the conversation to come.

Brilliant interview. It is a rare ocassion when someone interviews a chess player and doesn't ask all the stereotypical meaningless questions. Lex seems well-informed, but his questions are unassuming: he did a great job.

@koplak9809

Жыл бұрын

He play a lil bit chess himself I think

@RamonesFan201

Жыл бұрын

Puhh-Lease, These were ALL sterotypical questions. especially towards the end lol

@TipoQueTocaelPiano

Жыл бұрын

@@RamonesFan201 No, they aren't. They are common questions for experts, not for outside interviewers, and they are asked with elegance and depth.

The, “imposter syndrome,” at the end of the podcast struck me the hardest 😳 beautiful conversation

@phillipzierke8104

Жыл бұрын

I came to write the same thing. The fact that HE has imposter syndrome, proves how human he is and makes it even easier to connect too. Great interview, Lex never disappoints.

@antimatter2417

11 ай бұрын

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I love how Carlsen explains that he only works on things that he wants, in the ways that he wants. If something doesn't interest him, he won't do it. This is a hugely valuable piece of information. Carlsen also mentions that coaches have a structured approach, and that this doesn't go well with him. He studies on his own time, in his own way, in his own direction, from his preferred material at any given time. Without strict direction, without strict guidance. Very free. One might argue that this is what enables him to maintain his passion for so many years. It would explain why he voluntarily gave up his title of world champion - because he felt restricted by it, which would be hurting his passion.

@Micas099

Жыл бұрын

Magnus, like say, Einstein, are extreme human outliers, so of course he's going to do what he wants. There's no great epiphany there. Those that are the greatest at a thing will always do what they want. And the reason he gave up his title is that he's not interested in playing yet another slog of a match whose outcome has already been predetermined. Magnus wants to play the anti-Magnus, which everyone thought would be Alireza Firouzja, but he's not ready. Then yet again, Nepomniachtchi wins the candidates so why would Magnus want to play Nepo when it would be more of the same? Ultimately, it's bad for everyone. Whoever wins the next championship will have an asterisk next to their name, which is a shame.

@johnnycto7576

Жыл бұрын

Or, how Millenials killed Chess.

@SK-tk6bi

Жыл бұрын

It's such a simple fucking common sense concept, so I don't understand why the vast majority of people don't get it. Many lives have been ruined because someone wasn't allowed to do what they wanted just because of other people's flawed notions.

@ETBrooD

Жыл бұрын

@@Micas099 What came first, the chicken or the egg? Maybe Carlsen is an outlier precisely because of his refusal to abide by other people's rules. Maybe there are many people like him who'd lead overall better lives if we allowed them to do things their way.

@skitzcunt4213

Жыл бұрын

yeh thats why it never worked out with Kasparov... he was a tireless, disciplined worker... apparently total opposite of how carlsen likes to study

Hey Lex, great guests, very interesting topics and conversations! One thing that could be improved though is asking more open ended questions. I'm a UX researcher having to interview people a lot and once I learned to ask open ended questions instead of asking questions and right away suggesting answers and stopped piling up a few questions as one - the interviews and the answers became much more elaborate, genuine and interesting. I think your interviews could also benefit a lot of tuning your questions to be more open ended and concise.

Lex I wanted to take a moment and really thank you not only for this wonderful episode but also for your gentleness in taking interest in our questions and asking Magnus about them. It's been an unspeakable treat to have personal curiosities (that I thought I would have never had the chance to satisfy) addressed like this, especially in the context of such a captivating conversation. I also wanted to let you know that I owe you the good trajectory I'm experiencing in my life right now; I've struggled with discipline and organization for a very long time, and watching how you structure your day regardless of motivation (opposite to the Magnus style) has been incredibly inspiring to me. Wish you the best of the best, a friend from far away.

Magnus is fascinating. I could listen to him all day. I don't even play chess.

44:54 "I also know now that it's not going to last forever, so every little win gives me joy now" Nice to hear Magnus has reached that level where he has realistic expectations about life. Accepting the bad, and bad things takes a level of maturity and wisdom that even relatively old people (like 60s) sometimes don't have. Or people go their whole life's struggling with it, and every little "speed bump" causes them an upset which if they don't fight can end up becoming a spiral.

Thank you so much for this interview! Thanks to Magnus for accepting! I love it, it's definitely one of my favourites you've done so far, and I've seen a lot of them!

Excellent conversation Lex! You continue to maintain a high calibre line up of guests on your podcast.

Don't worry about the camera dying, I usually watch the podcasts because it helps me focus on what's said otherwise I might get distracted if listening only but it's ok, thank you for your great work and your great podcast as always

@bubnjarovski

Жыл бұрын

Extremely unprofessional not having a second camera.

@Augustus_Imperator

Жыл бұрын

@@bubnjarovski this is not his profession, it's his passion and a gift for us all to witness such great minds. and he's one of the best at it. ever heard about the word "gratefulness"?

@hook8535

Жыл бұрын

@@bubnjarovski understanding Lexs character I will almost guarantee you this won’t happen for another 100+ interviews so youll be ok for a while

@none_of_your_business

Жыл бұрын

especially since when openings were being discussed there was still footage of the board on the screen so no harm done. it was a great thing to listen to on the train on my commute to work. thank you lex

@JustinBlazzzee

Жыл бұрын

@@Augustus_ImperatorMaybe it wasn’t his profession but it’s his main source of income now. He makes a ton from his channels.

This conversation must be rare, glad you managed to get Magnus on the podcast. 🇳🇴

Not being a chess player, I'd never heard of Magnus Carlsen, but I listen to Lex all the time. I really enjoyed this conversation. Thanks Lex, as always, for being yourself and bringing out the best in others. Thanks to Magnus, for being another positive influence on the world.

Each new interview, Lex improves.. better questions; better listener; good pacing; funny; serious; hi is subtle; and is respectful... and know about the context of who his interviewing. Top natch

This podcast scratches the itch of curiosity time and time again. Lex's ability to ask the right follow up questions in the best way in order to get the most insight from a guest is in a league of it's own. Keep up the good work, and more Joscha Bach is always good. I'm still pondering his ideas on consciousness with the role feedback loops play. I'm rambling as usual, so I'll simply say; thank you good sir!

Thank you for providing visual replacement as well, I like to watch your podcasts because I feel like I retain more information when I see facial expressions, but in general having some visual medium allows to give your full concentration and not be distracted by something in the background

so i just watched the hikaru interview, the negreanu interview i listened to, and now this one - wow, @lex fridman is probably the greatest interviewer i've ever fucking heard. i've never heard these people, aside from negreanu, open up with this level of detail and frankness before, in such a natural way, and even negreanu said many things plainly which i've only heard him vaguely allude to, the art of the interview done exceptionally well, simply amazing. obviously i subbed, and am now going to watch/listen to the other 300+ interviews on this channel, astonishing content. thank you, and well done, sir!

@sigmundfreud2443

Жыл бұрын

Its usually bc of a chill longtime format that brings this effect, just human are allowed to speak freely while not much is going on.

@Nitidus

Жыл бұрын

@@sigmundfreud2443 Correct as always, Mr. Freud! This is not really an interview setting, it's a talk. Lex is not a journalist interested in some specific information that's relevant to the moment. You can't usefully compare the different formats and they're not competing. Don't overshoot the target putting these videos against other people's work. Just enjoy it for what it is. No need to see who has the longest dingdong.

@danielandree3947

Жыл бұрын

There’s a few reasons. 1) it’s long format, so lex can give them as much time as they want to answer each question. 2) because it’s long format, he also doesn’t need to cut them off at all, a lot of issues that interviewers have, is that they have x number of questions that they have, and they’d rather ask every one of those questions, then get in depth answers for the ones they do ask, so a lot of interviewers end up cutting people off, answer parts or all of the question they ask instead of letting the person actually answer the questions unimpeded in their own words. 3) he does ask about controversies, and tough questions, but he does it properly, he doesn’t go into the question with any biases or judgements, he isn’t asking to gain information to be able to judge, he is asking simply to gain the information, so he allows the person to really think about and answer the question as they please, and if they are lying in their answer, he doesn’t attack them for it, he will move on (which gains him favor with the interviewee), but he will ask other questions down the line, that tie back into the original question, and does so in a way that doesn’t call them out directly for lying or showing any form of judgement, and he does it so well that he can get the real truth out of someone without them even realizing it. Lex really does an amazing job, a lot of it is because he allows the person to actually answer, he doesn’t go in with pre judgement, and he doesn’t act like he knows anything about what he’s asking about regardless of how much he does know, he goes in asking like he knows absolutely nothing, allow the interviewee to be able to explain it in depth, which is good because it lets the interviewee give in depth answers, and it allows the professional to be able to explain to the viewer so they can understand, even if he already gets it, his viewers might not, so he always asks like he has no idea, and when the interviewee says something in an answer that only people with prior information would understand what they’re talking about, he slows it down, and interjects then to allow for the viewer to understand by asking a detailing question about what the persons talking about (for example, he could ask magnus about a chess opening, and magnus says something about the opening that only people who play chess would understand, he will then ask, so by “the London opening, you mean moving the bishop to c4 pinning x piece, that means that the opponent can no longer move their piece without losing the piece that is being blocked by that current piece right now” something like that, which gives the viewer a better understanding of the details of the answer). There are so many different techniques that interviewers can do to draw out information, the biggest one that most interviewers don’t do, is actually let the person answer the question…. Interviewers a lot of time have a problem for some reason to just sit and listen for an extended period of time without interjecting, which is the biggest problem that interviewers have when interviewing people, which is funny because it’s the most important and main point of actually interviewing people, but for some reason a lot of people just can’t simply shut up and listen and let them respond for as long as they want with as much detail as possible.

@sigmundfreud2443

Жыл бұрын

@@Nitidus I agree and to specify the "Lex isnt the genius Interviewer approach": I think he gets carried by the format more than that he is doing something specifically good with the format. He even mentioned that he isn't really good with language (translating his own thoughts and the complexity of them in words) and I feel you can see it here. He isn't bad either but certainly no one that opens the other "geniusly". His style is openes and vulnerability that provide some sort of ego death in his interviewpartners so you have a good thoughtful and open conversation but in it there seems to be plenty of room for depth which he isn't really able to reach.

@jerryb216

Жыл бұрын

@@danielandree3947 This is exactly how I would describe his success as well. He also just has a natural ability to match the other person's energy and or play off of it which is extremely hard to do if you can't understand the other person. I think that's his biggest strength when looking at how he gets people to open up

As a fan of both chess and jiu jitsu, seeing interviews with both Gordon Ryan and Magnus Carlsen are really interesting - it would be great to see such dominant people from different fields in the same interview and see where theor thoughts overlap

If there were Emmy Awards for a podcast, there is zero doubt that this captivating and beautiful conversation would have my vote. I found myself smiling ear to ear into the early hours of the morning with the work day drawing closer and not a care in the world of it because I've been engrossed yet again. Even the folly of the camera failing and the opportunities which it presented for unique and engaging editing and overlays was brilliant to experience as it added so many layers of context to the topics. Thank you so much, Lex. Your work enriches.

This is the best interview of Magnus I have ever heard.

@none_of_your_business

Жыл бұрын

also the longest

Love how humble he comes across, which feels to me like it stems from a great honesty. Very pleasant.

@fredtaylor9792

9 ай бұрын

It's amazing anyone can play chess for a living and not be humbled. Losing a chess game is the most humbling experience you can have, intellectually. It makes you question yourself in ways most sports can't. It's a direct attack on your ego and intellect but I'll forever be amazed at the ego's some people have I suppose. Magnus is a huge inspiration. He lives streams some of his games, providing his thoughts and comments real time. 10 to 20 years ago a chess player wouldn't do that even if they could.

The last question and answer hit it on the head.

Been so excited for this one! The perfect interviewer for a guest like this

@tomsterling7195

Жыл бұрын

Wow, look who's here 🙏

Brilliant conversation, magnus simplyfies complex concepts easily and that could be another bonus to his genius thinking

Thank you both for an amazing interview. This has to be one of my favourites. I would love to see another episode with Magnus - very inspiring.

13:30 This part I find very interesting and has been the source of some dispute between a friend and me. The question whether it is necessary to have a board fully visualized in your head to play blindfolded or even just to be really good at chess. Searching about this on the internet seemed to show that not every good or even great chess player has a fully visualized board in their head. Some techniques involve breaking the board down into four quadrants for blind matches. But seemingly most people struggle see a full board in their head. Personally I have great difficulty fully visualizing anything in my head, something I learned is called 'aphantasia'. And I was always under the impression that that is part of why I had no natural talent for chess and that people who had the ability to visualize a board would have a great advantage in chess. My friend always argued that the biggest factor for being able to play blindfolded comes from experience and memorizing lines and just simply knowing chess very well. The fact that the greatest active chess player immediately answered that he has fully visualized boards in his head, makes me feel like I was somewhat right.

@dangallagher6176

2 ай бұрын

I've regularly tried to visualize the board in my head as I've progressed in chess. For reference, I am now 2000 Elo rapid, and here are my 2 cents on your dispute with your friend: The better you can visualize the board, the easier it will be able to play blindfolded. Practising calculation will improve your ability to visualize the board. Being great at chess requires great calculation skills, which in turn creates strong board visualization abilities, so you cannot become great at chess without being great at visualizing the board, but it is the chess skill that causes good visualization, rather than a natural ability to see the board from the start. With regards to aphantasia and whether you have it - I have no clue how to test for it, I only have my own experience to go off. But my opinion is that if you can visualize the rooms inside your home well, you have the potential to visualize the board at least to that same extent, it'll just take a lot of practise.

Lex is killing it. Absolute savage on the podcast world. And is all free on KZread. What a blessing.

@omg_stoppit

Жыл бұрын

I saw the upload and was blown away. I’m a huge Magnus fan even though I’m not super into playing. Hearing them speak together is amazing.

@Lecluyse2000

Жыл бұрын

Best podcast on youtube right now

@maxkho00

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think he is a good podcast host? To me, he comes across as pretty ineloquent (often being unable to formulate his question precisely), repetitive (just count how many times he used the word "beautiful" or brought up Messi out of nowhere), and simplistic in his views (his takes in this particular podast were fine, but in others, like the one with John Carmack, the superficiality of his views really shines through). Some of his questions are somewhat interesting, but nowhere near interesting enough to compensate for all the other downsides. What makes you think he is a "savage" and is "killing it"?

@1shpendi

Жыл бұрын

@@maxkho00 Is the variety of subjects and guests what makes him the best. His drive and hard work and prepared questions for his guests and the quantity of podcasts per week or months. I am a poker player for over 27 years, thats all i do to earn money for my living, i was surprised he knew so much poker players and about poker world. Simply i love his hard work and no one works harder than Lex on the podcast world, thats what makes him a savage. I been following him since he had no more than 20-30 thousand subscribers, and yes he is killing it now and is well deserved because he works hard. No one surprises his followers with variety of interesting guests than Lex. Every single time a new podcast upload is a pleasant surprise and i speak for most followers of his work when i say this. He is also very up to date with the trends of the world, for example Joe Rogan and others frown upon KZread comments without realizing the best comedy on earth is found in KZread comment section, generally speaking also good people interactions. Better than twitter facebook etc, and Lex is aware of that. In fact i been following him so long i feel i know him so well now that i knew when JRE went off KZread to Spotify, me being a poker player i could tell Lex’s inner joy in his face that he saw himself being here today with a huge following after JR leaving KZread. I still like JRE and bunch of other podcasts Andrew Huberman but Lex is number one right now.

@1shpendi

Жыл бұрын

@@maxkho00 Is the variety of subjects and guests what makes him the best. His drive and hard work and prepared questions for his guests and the quantity of podcasts per week or months. I am a poker player for over 27 years, thats all i do to earn money for my living, i was surprised he knew so much poker players and about poker world. Simply i love his hard work and no one works harder than Lex on the podcast world, thats what makes him a savage. I been following him since he had no more than 20-30 thousand subscribers, and yes he is killing it now and is well deserved because he works hard. No one surprises his followers with variety of interesting guests than Lex. Every single time a new podcast upload is a pleasant surprise and i speak for most followers of his work when i say this. He is also very up to date with the trends of the world, for example Joe Rogan and others frown upon KZread comments without realizing the best comedy on earth is found in KZread comment section, generally speaking also good people interactions. Better than twitter facebook etc, and Lex is aware of that. In fact i been following him so long i feel i know him so well now that i knew when JRE went off KZread to Spotify, me being a poker player i could tell Lex’s inner joy in his face that he saw himself being here today with a huge following after JR leaving KZread. I still like JRE and bunch of other podcasts Andrew Huberman but Lex is number one right now.

You asked two of my submitted questions!!!! Thank you!!!! I’m so happy you got him on your podcast. This is by far the best interview out there from him. You can tell he likes and respects you. It doesn’t come off like it’s a chore for him. Which is quite rare! Also I especially love how you’re asking about his ‘algorithm’ and psychology behind his approach to everything, not just his play. I’ve always wanted to ask him about that and you finally did it. So refreshing. Thanks guys!! ‘I’m never trying to get re-elected when I play a game of chess’ -Magnus replying to a Henry Kissinger quote/response to politics. Fantastic.

Best interview of Magnus ever wow - I love that you didn't only stick to chess, but covered his love for NBA etc

@thor.halsli

Жыл бұрын

NBA? FIFA you mean?

@3Looy

11 ай бұрын

@@thor.halsli basketball

The last 15 minutes of this podcast is pure gold ✨

Great interview and great choice to interview Magnus. I usually listen to audio only and in any case 20 minutes of video was more than enough to get his vibe. I actually wish you'd do more overlays in future. They were great.

Love that you started with a topic that wasn't chess related. I'm sure it was a breath of fresh air for him compared to most interviews.

@willudallmusic

Жыл бұрын

i found it strange at first, but you're right, it loosened things up

@vibovitold

Жыл бұрын

Fridman gambit

A couple of excellent humans conversing freely and intelligently. Very enjoyable. Thank you both.

Loved this, Carlsen is such an interesting man. Great to get an insight into a great chess player, would love for you to have him back on in the future.

YES! Thank you. This is hands down the best podcast. Incredible range of guests.

That's a wild crossover! Lex's effort to provide best quality contents over more than 300 videos is totally mind-blowing. Keep going, your success is our success.

I don't know about others but I kind of like the slides more than the live interview. It adds good context and references to what is being talked about. I might consider adding something like this to other interviews.

Magnus is fascinating. It's nice having him do an interview in a slower-paced, less formal/stressful setting than the news or a press conference. This interview was also so far more intelligent than most Magnus interviews and Magnus, who is usually rather introverted, seemed to open up and was up for discussing topics far more in depth. Thanks!

Lex - you are what this world needs more of. Appreciate you ❤

@ishant6003

Жыл бұрын

based channel listening to based podcast

@c.chinaski3156

Жыл бұрын

Jubilee - you are what this world needs less of.

@googm

Жыл бұрын

get outta here with your fake az videos. average iq of 128 in that iq video, get outtttttttttttaaaaaaaaaaa heerrree

@liam4862

Жыл бұрын

@@c.chinaski3156 couldn’t agree more

@Zenith9132

Жыл бұрын

How does Jubilee know about Magnus

This was one of your best interviews Lex. I am a big chess fan. I watch classical games at 2am from Australia. Don’t judge me 😂. So good to see Magnus so open. This was one of his best interviews and I’ve seen a lot of them. He is such an incredible player. A bit surprised you didn’t throw Lasker in the mix, 27 years as world champion. But there you go. Good job.

This is the most insightful interview of Magnus I've seen. Great job.

I loved this interview so much. And then he ends with the Daniel Johnston song quote. So perfect. “Don’t be sad I know you will. Only if you’re looking will it find you…”

Lex, you are officially the best podcaster on the planet. This is God tier!

@interestingcommentbut....7378

Жыл бұрын

@@jorgel4867 If you watch Lex you are already a Nerd

@matthewandrew8423

Жыл бұрын

Impaulsive >>> Lex the robot

@lionelmessisburner7393

Жыл бұрын

Lex literally is boring asf but he has goats like magnus on his pod

@danielbowden5610

Жыл бұрын

@@lionelmessisburner7393 Tbf he's actually not boring, there's a reason he has a PhD and a wealth if knowledge in various fields and its definitely not because he's boring. It's just his robotic monotone taking style which is boring but the content (from Lex, not just his guest) is soot on.

Lex Sir just wanted to add that you guys pulled off a great save! I usually watch on KZread and although regular method is preferred this was a super solid go of it! Adding old videos and photos gave great context. Good job keep killing it 🙏🏻🤙🏻

Love that a Daniel Johnston song comes at the end of a 2 1/2 hour interview with Magnus Carlsen.

The best Magnus interview I've ever watched. An interview which transcended the 64 squares and looked deeply into his inner psyche, his life in a more general sense and truly explored Magnus' recent decisions and the thoughts behind them.

As someone whose love for chess is almost as big as my love for these podcasts, I can merely describe these podcasts as cloud 9

The more I learn about Magnus the more I find there is to like about him, really loved seeing the off-board side of his personality unveiled like this. Btw so happy discovering Magnus is well aware of agadmator & gotham's existence, hope Levy gets to steal him for a stupidly long podcast too

@smmshoe

Жыл бұрын

he is doing live streams for years talking about stupid shit and posting videos of him playing soccer with his seconds

@Matthew-bu7fg

Жыл бұрын

If you watch Levy then you're 12 years old

@saharshbij

Жыл бұрын

@@smmshoe Yup, this video of him trash talking with Naroditsky is my personal favourite- kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4GtzcWsiNfcc5c.html

@silas3463

Жыл бұрын

@@Matthew-bu7fg wrong mate

@silas3463

Жыл бұрын

@@Matthew-bu7fg most of his viewers are between 18 and 25

Great interview Lex! This is my favorite interview you’ve done and I wasn’t bothered at all by the camera dying. Hat tip to you good sir!

40:16 If this camera still works, why not show everything this way?

these long conversations manage to extract so many gems out of interesting people in a way no other interview managed to do in the past: - detailed discussions of perception and feelings about the 2016 world championship match - talking about why he enjoyed the 2018 match the most and why he thought it wouldn't have been so bad to lose against fabiano - his confidence going into the 2021 match - revealing that he had already had several private conversations about walking away from the title even before the last match - his detailed opinions about how to improve the world championship format in a way that no other interview covered before - his opinion about whether segei should be banned based on his opinion even though he totally disagrees with it - admitting he thought he would be norway no 1 but not world no 1 - even admitting at the end that he hesitated to do the podcast because both the host and audience are pretty smart and he has impostor syndrome.

Another fantastic interview Lex--I had to 'check' this one out for sure. Magnus is a true rarity, and I'm glad the show Queen's Gambit brought me back to chess after all these years, and that in my generation I'm able to witness a true master of the game. I'm so intrigued by him. What a trippy life he must live. Both a blessing and a curse I'm sure.

Liked and commented after the intro - THANK you for every conversation with these interesting people you share with us! The camera is a small perk on the side.

I find the nepo- ding analysis by magnus at 1:01:37 to be extremely fascinating considering the actual results. Magnus was so accurate regarding their weakneses and strengths. What an incredible interview!

@weignerleigner3037

10 ай бұрын

Yeah Gotham was pretty spot on too he said ding would start bad and do better while other players are the opposite.

Lex: ''What is the meaning of life?'' Magnus: ''Theres no meaning, it ends at some point. But it's still a great thing so. You can try and pursue your goals, whatever they may be.''

Just another great podcast Lex. Thank you for always being so genuine.

@ForeverNeverwhere1

Жыл бұрын

How do you know? You made this response as soon as the podcast dropped.

Superb questions and even more brilliant humble, thoughtful and deep answers! Many thanks Lex Fridman and Magnus Carlsen for doing lengthy interview...had to interrupt to do some moves in between because it was so inspiring!

Best interview I have seen with Magnus Carlsen. Very long but so interesting!

"I mess things up sometimes" I love the humility Lex. Thank you for all that you do.

Whether the camera broke or not ;) the pictures and discussion were surprisingly more engaging and stimulating than spending mental energy watching the video.

Lex just seems like such a chill honest intelligent and curious person

Absolutely thrilled to listen to Magnus, brilliant podcast defo one of my favourite guests ever Ona podcast. I remember years ago looking for a good pod with a chess monster lmfao

@macitsalur3014

9 ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅

Being a chess lover, this conversation/interview was especially enjoyable. Carlsen has to be considered the best of all time, I think. It's always a treat to listen to anything that world class players have to say about the game and the various factors that contribute to how they play it. Thanks 👍

Oh Lex what a great conversation and questions. As a chess fan I was curious how deep your questions about chess would be, and I would say 10/10. Dont worry about a camera. Finishing at 1:30 am, and needed to write it down, fucking up my sleep and circadian rythm. Magnus, great comversation! It is hilarious you have an impostor sundrome. You are a genius and normal guy at the same time, so maybe thats why.

Your podcast is quickly growing to be one of the best in the world! For sure my favorite. Incredible guests and conversations.

I have seen first time Magnus in a good mood and informal just like this.

I remember when, about 15 years ago, I heard about Magnus Carlson. The story was.. the youngest person to play Garry Kasparov.. also drew him. And that was a 13 year old Magnus. Incredible.

@maxfightmaster1338

Жыл бұрын

today he is the goat. He is world champion that has accomplished so much that he recently denied to play in this years world title tournament because he already beat this years challenger last year. Lol he is just so funny nowadays ngaf now that he’s been goat’d

@interestingcommentbut....7378

Жыл бұрын

@Superfluous The video is on KZread he did shake his hand it wasn’t too bad.

@Pratanu9

Жыл бұрын

Then he lost two games and magnus said it was a gimmick, listen to the podcast before commenting.

@vibovitold

Жыл бұрын

@@maxfightmaster1338 "he recently denied to play in this years world title tournament because he already beat this years challenger last year" no, this wasn't the reason (and it would be a rather stupid reason if it were one, but it's not). Carlsen announced he considered forfeiting the world champion title long before the challenger was revealed. it was even before the last year.

@raducubd

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, Magnus Carlson and Garry Kasperov 🤣

Wow, you really get the best guests. This has turned into one of my favorite podcasts.

I've watched about 50 of your videos Lex. Surprised to see this one; it was one I didn't know I wanted. Thank you very much. Subbed.

I'm here to listen not watch, love your work Lex so happy JR gave you the push and confidence you needed to start your podcast. Thanks for your work don't change a thing.