Magnetic Field (AC) Comparison of Monofilar and Tesla Bifilar Coils

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Here I compare the AC magnetic field strength of two pancake coils: a Monofilar coil and a Tesla Bifilar coil wound according to his patent #512340.
Using the genuine TriField Meter, favored instrument of ghost hunters and UFOlogists worldwide, on its Magnetic Field ranges, I show the field strength in milligauss at 15 cm from the center of the edge-on coils.
Both the Tesla Bifilar and the Monofilar coils read approximately the same field strength as I test frequencies from 0 to 1 kHz.
The TriField meter's sensitivity drops off at very high frequencies so I can't really do this test at higher frequencies, but at least at these relatively slow frequencies the two coils perform just about the same. No significant differences were detected in the magnetic field strengths of the two coils in the frequency range from 0 to 1 kHz.
ERRATA:
1 ) I have the TBF coil's resonant frequency marked at 273.2 kHz, but I confused it with my other matching TBF coil. The one in this video is actually 242.7 kHz.
2) At about 6:35 in the video I mistakenly say "60 milligauss" when I should have said "6 milligauss".
Thanks for watching and commenting!

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  • @rnovak4
    @rnovak45 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for demonstration. I was looking for it !

  • @robertocamarena8165
    @robertocamarena81652 жыл бұрын

    Very nicely documented! Well done 😍

  • @user-mw2bf7ir1b
    @user-mw2bf7ir1b7 жыл бұрын

    Hi TinselKoala! Very very nice, good job! Many thanks this demonstrations!

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    You're quite welcome Vasiliy ! Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @theperfectsetupguitarandba4816
    @theperfectsetupguitarandba48166 жыл бұрын

    The smaller the space, the greater the capacitance. A more powerful of magnetic will create a field that is smaller than that of a less powerful magnetic, of the same size. Instead of reading the outside of their fields, the measuring should have been at the coils strongest point, at lower, equal outputs. Tesla was partial to 432hz and other numbers that have 3,6,9 as the prime number, while modern engineering prefers multiples of 10s. I wonder if these would preform differently at these certain frequencies. Like 100hz vs 108hz, 140hz vs 144hz and 432 hz vs 440hz.

  • @kreynolds1123

    @kreynolds1123

    Жыл бұрын

    Not anything fundamentally different.

  • @xenaocter9511
    @xenaocter95114 жыл бұрын

    tx for your explanation for ELF...

  • @area46241
    @area462417 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating!!... Good series...do a current collapse and test the peak volts maybe the genie won't wake up till his magnetic cacoon inverts...22 k heats iron...

  • @ReasonForemost
    @ReasonForemost7 жыл бұрын

    Another very good and important demonstration, thanks for sharing your findings. In your description you note that the resonant frequency for this Tesla Bifilar coil is 242.7KHz, since the only significant difference between a Monofilar and a Tesla Bifilar coil is the inter-winding capacitance, how much higher is the resonant frequency of this Monofilar coil? Perhaps you were going to cover this in a future video. I am also curious why there was a 30.5KHz difference between the resonant frequencies of your matching TBF coils, strictly a difference in winding consistency as you note in this video? Appears to also point out the importance of winding consistency due to its affect on coil inductance and inter-winding capacitance if you are trying to match the resonant frequency of coils which can be especially difficult with pancake coils. And yet another set of Monofilar and Tesla Bifilar coils with same length of wire and same resistance (3.92 vs. 3.90 ohms)!

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    The monofilar coil has its first resonance peak at about 750 kHz, so there is a substantial reduction in resonant frequency for the bifilar coil. The differences between the two bifilar coils I have shown (243 vs 273kHz) are probably down to the winding inconsistencies. It is very hard to wind these coils and one is probably looser than the other one and hence has less interturn distributed capacitance which will raise the frequency of resonance. Yes, I'm still working on the "script" for an upcoming video on determining resonance of these coils using several different methods. Should be done sometime in the next few days but probably not today. Frequency matching, once a coil is wound, would probably be easiest using a small value trimmer capacitor in parallel with the coil, right at the terminals. Or one can vary capacitance and/or inductance by placing the coil on or near flat slabs of conductive material, which in turn affects the resonant frequency. Thanks again for watching and commenting!

  • @walterbunn280

    @walterbunn280

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ehh.... I don't think it's the different consistency of the windings. I think it's the parasitic capacitance of the different windings. Thinner wire is more readily affected by stray capacitances between loops. This is referred to as "Parasitic capacitance" and is usually designed out of transformers.

  • @liwingyip1801

    @liwingyip1801

    6 жыл бұрын

    TinselKoala

  • @SuperheroArmorychannel
    @SuperheroArmorychannel19 күн бұрын

    No, you need to perform this test at the resonant frequency of each coil.

  • @szekerespista3758
    @szekerespista37585 жыл бұрын

    With thicker wire the resonant frequency will increase or decrease?

  • @DSRRingMaster
    @DSRRingMaster4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting... my question is what if the are stood up on end with the same test would there be any difference. In no engineer, so correct me if I'm wrong but with this set up aren't you measuring at its weakest point instead of the magnetic "focal point". Or is there not any difference?

  • @user-ld2ou8tv6q
    @user-ld2ou8tv6q11 күн бұрын

    على ما أعتقد بتفكيري يمكن تعديل ملف تسلا الى تسلا ساروخ ووضع الملف على الشكل راس الساروخ حيت يكون الباعت في مقدمة راس الساروخي و المستقبل فالجهة الاخرى فلربما ترسل موجات بعيدة عن ملف تسلا

  • @taniawilliams545
    @taniawilliams5459 ай бұрын

    Can you explain my my lovely ,how these exactly work thank you 😊

  • @brenzzonea5157
    @brenzzonea51576 жыл бұрын

    What's the difference in the windings?

  • @XR_IX
    @XR_IX6 жыл бұрын

    I think you have proven that the magnetic strength is the same at 1KHz (equally efficient, or inefficient), but.... what happens in the coil at resonance, when you have a standing wave? What happens in the magnetic domain then?

  • @THEMFORMATION

    @THEMFORMATION

    2 жыл бұрын

    No use hes a glow

  • @amrabdelwahab6347
    @amrabdelwahab63477 жыл бұрын

    Hi, If I have a bifilar pancake coil, and want to place it in a faraday cage to trap its electromagnetic field inside. what would be the recommended distance between the coil and the wall of the cage to avoid interrupting the electromagnetic field of the coil, or that does not make a difference in the coil performance?

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry, but I have no idea. Go ahead and experiment, and report your results!

  • @michaelhansen6977
    @michaelhansen6977 Жыл бұрын

    I believe he intendes this as a generator coil not a motor coil. I think a proper test would be to test the output from the coil as alternating permanent magnets rotate above it.

  • @user-gi1md8yj2v
    @user-gi1md8yj2v Жыл бұрын

    What happen If you build two bifilarcoils and do on down und one upside the another coil .what Happens with the magneticfield ;-)

  • @prototype9000
    @prototype900011 ай бұрын

    didnt really have the bifilar coil hooked upo right

  • @viplasmaking1719
    @viplasmaking17197 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your work. It is very interesting what you do. Now, what would in your opinion be the best use of these types of coils for extraction of ambient energy?

  • @viplasmaking1719

    @viplasmaking1719

    7 жыл бұрын

    Induction cooker free energy, could that be possible?

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it very much. Of course, everything JLN touches turns to free energy, so maybe you should ask him how he does it.

  • @viplasmaking1719

    @viplasmaking1719

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for your reply. If there is a way to find some free energy lurking in the coils please let me know!

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well, the first thing you will need to do is to find some extractable ambient electromagnetic energy in quantities large enough to be useful. A Spectrum Analyzer is the right instrument to "sniff" your environment for such energies and will pinpoint the frequency range of most usefulness (highest energy content). Then you would create a tuned circuit to resonate at the desired frequency, and instantiate this tuned circuit by coupling your flat TBF coil with the necessary capacitance, or wind the coil itself to incorporate its own distributed capacitance of sufficient capacity to form the tuned circuit at the desired frequency of resonance. Then you just need to rectify and store the "scavenged" energy in an external capacitor bank for use powering your loads. Good luck! Thanks for watching and commenting! I don't own a Spectrum Analyzer but would be happy to receive one as a donation to TKLabs, and I could put it to good use instantly.

  • @viplasmaking1719

    @viplasmaking1719

    7 жыл бұрын

    How much money would you need to buy a Spectrum Analyzer? I see them from a couple of hundred to $1500

  • @TheFlyre
    @TheFlyre6 жыл бұрын

    Hi what do i need to do this?

  • @TheFlyre

    @TheFlyre

    6 жыл бұрын

    TriField Meter wont work in mhz why??

  • @TheSadedz
    @TheSadedz Жыл бұрын

    So USA use metric system

  • @RicardoJMGuimaraes
    @RicardoJMGuimaraes9 ай бұрын

    It is stronger wen receiving...

  • @retromodernart4426
    @retromodernart44267 жыл бұрын

    TK, are you implying that the Tesla Bifilar Pancake Coil is nothing special? Uh Oh... ;)

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well, let's just say that they are more difficult to wind, and that they have lower resonant frequency than corresponding monofilar coils. The various other "magical" properties attributed to them by Tesla cultists have not manifested themselves in my testing. Yet. However it seems that I have been able to put down a few of the more outlandish claims, at least for these coils in my lab. Of course none of this will convince the die-hard cultists. After all, I may be using the wrong color wire, or performing my tests at the wrong time of day or phase of the moon. But I have yet to see any convincing demonstrations of the various claims by the cultists themselves, so I have to believe my own work, flaws and all. Thanks again for watching and commenting!

  • @gaborandocs7091

    @gaborandocs7091

    5 жыл бұрын

    @G W Would you please describe it in a little bit more details? How a TBF coil would behave in RF?

  • @user-gi1md8yj2v
    @user-gi1md8yj2v Жыл бұрын

    Or 2 monofilarcoils

  • @user-gi1md8yj2v
    @user-gi1md8yj2v2 ай бұрын

    The same says Gerard Morin Staying magnets do nothing but moving Mag.......do many more Look what rotor with magnets do when it spins......

  • @user-gf1pc8sj1j
    @user-gf1pc8sj1j7 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Siberia, Russia. you know that such coils it is possible to cure almost all disease?

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen any evidence of that, but I can assure you that they seem to _cause_ mental diseases.

  • @user-gf1pc8sj1j

    @user-gf1pc8sj1j

    7 жыл бұрын

    you need to properly configure tested on tens of thousands of people

  • @holyorderofscientists

    @holyorderofscientists

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Denis... did you know that most of such literature is in Russian, not English? I have only seen maybe once in lifetime such information disseminated in the West. Just as Don Smith put it, in Russia the science is much more advanced as they encourage independent research and in the West the banking interest smoulders every bright individual ready to advance the science as the fame is only reserved to the big bank-controlled universities and their owned massive laboratories. Tinselkoala should be sponsored to continue the studies into bifilars.

  • @strangescience3414
    @strangescience34145 жыл бұрын

    Put it on an iron plate

  • @noahegler9131

    @noahegler9131

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, aluminum. I want to see slag!

  • @petergrandics4382
    @petergrandics43827 жыл бұрын

    The bifilar coil should have a significantly greater inductance than the monofilar coil and not less. Your experiment looks erroneous to me.

  • @TinselKoala

    @TinselKoala

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, the Tesla Bifilar winding has significantly more _capacitance_ than the monofilar coil and this is not in dispute. If you believe that it has significantly more inductance, I encourage you to perform and report your own experiments to support your contention. You may also look on my channel for several other experiments using flat and solenoidal Tesla bifilar vs. monofilar windings that demonstrate no significant increase in inductance for the bifilar winding scheme. Please let me know when you've posted the video of your own experiments.

  • @markhodgson2348

    @markhodgson2348

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TinselKoala very nicely made comment

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