Absolutely love the sound of a good 351C nothing else sounds like them

@alexcorona

6 ай бұрын

351M 😂 Boss 302…etc

@vadenk4433

3 ай бұрын

I’ve never heard a 351 M that sounded anywhere near as good as a well built Cleveland. Not saying they don’t exist but every 351 M I’ve been around was an absolute dog

@billdang3953

20 күн бұрын

@@vadenk4433 Typical for a malaise era engine.

Nothing like the sound of a 351 C, I love these engines.

@Hybridknfgrowchannel

2 ай бұрын

Bad af

Back when dyno- saurs roamed the streets the Cleveland was one of the few engines that could strike fear in the heart of a big block.

@petergalouzis7272

4 жыл бұрын

Herbert Martin and the clevo still lives up to its status . 2v for the street 4v for race

@bbcala9719

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, one of Fords best race motors. Street n strip

@lemans310

4 жыл бұрын

Had a 351 Cleveland in a 73 Torino. Best sound ever. Torque monster!

@hendo337

4 жыл бұрын

It was the LS of the 70s.

@charliemorris2338

4 жыл бұрын

Small block with the attitude of a big block.

Had a 351c in a 71 mach 1, took route 66 from Phoenix to Detroit in 1987 best ride so far,I'm 57

Boy this takes me back. What a great find on KZread. in 76 at 19 years old, I bought a 1970 Mach One 351 CV4 with an FMX auto trans and 9 inch rear end. Trashed the FMX and put in a built C6 with 3500 stall speed converter. Took the motor to the local machine shop and a copy of a Hot Rod Street build for the motor with HP output at around 425+. Cam high rise 750 cfm holly headers ported and polished the heads etc. Added 4.11 posi gears for the track, freshly updated brakes, coil over and traction bars. Wish I could have put it on a dyno but ran out of funds. Took it to Woodburn Drag Strip where the first pass was 11.60 smoking the tires most of the way. Needed slicks badly. Didn't get another pass that day as it blew the rear main seal. Common problem on this motor. Boy I loved that motor, it pulled so hard and sounded so good, pulled harder than my friends built 455 GTO or 440 GTX. Didn't lose a single street race the two years I owned it. Never got back to the track with it. Would have liked to keep it but I also met my future wife at the track and I still have her 42 years later and a 92 Fox body 5.0 that has some bolt on goodies for fun.

@blindhog2756

4 жыл бұрын

I had a 66 impala 396 4 speed, and I never beat a car like yours on the strip. I could handle most anything else,and always thought this mustang Cleveland setup was almost perfect.

Being a big Cleveland guy myself I am impressed but at the same time I wasn't surprised..the Cleveland will flat out run.

@guysumpthin2974

Жыл бұрын

5min of a guy drinking coffee?

@kevinbrucestevens7747

6 ай бұрын

There's a reason they used it and the 390 in trucks.

I have good memories of my Cleveland, one of the best running engines I’ve owned! Fun to see this one on the dyno.

thats why I use a roller cam now, no need to run in the cam...love them Cleveland's!!

@billdang3953

20 күн бұрын

Good choice as currently available engine oils do not have sufficient zinc to protect flat tappet cams.

Boy does that take me back 68 Ford Fairlane station wagon my dad passed everything from Chip trucks to Cadillacs with nine kids in the car thanks for memory lane Nick live on 351

Fords just generate oil from the air when they run. It condenses on the block and drips off, protecting the engine from rust. It's magic.

@alonzomoore8025

3 жыл бұрын

o I 0 o oo

@randyhamilton2863

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@1972mercurycougar

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Still love them! '71-'73 Cougar fan! 351C is a gem.

@jimginter6802

2 жыл бұрын

That's the only explaining that makes sense yet, especially in regards to two stroke jimmies, thank you

@That_Handle

2 жыл бұрын

8:48 - Is it never a good idea to include oil dye for definitvely tracking down leaks and faster?

im a mopar guy and i love my 71 duster 340 but ford really hit the mark with the 351 cleveland . great smallblock

@alexcorona

6 ай бұрын

Actually they did not because it came too late, so it never got to see the pinnacle of what it could have been. Ford was planning the 4V version to make 500HP…. But then the gas crisis hit and the production motor ended up being crippled heavily.

22 күн бұрын

Ford never called them "small blocks".

@billdang3953

20 күн бұрын

Ever heard of the 318 polyshere? The Ford Cleveland engines borrowed from the 318 polysphere in that it used similar looking valve configuration and combustion chamber as well as the evenly spaced intake and exhaust ports (as opposed to the small block Chevy's siamaesed ports).

that was one of the best motors Fomoco made.

I love 351 Cleveland's!!!! Great motor from Ford

8:37 that look on his face is priceless, bravo Nick bravo, another ecstatic customer.

Nick really puts everything he has into building his engines and repairing cars. Much respect!

@charger19691

6 жыл бұрын

kcotte59, Nick knows how to build them.

Nick's enthusiasm is infectious. I'm feeling pumped to go to work now. Better than a cup of coffee. Great work Nick!

It is an absolute joy to watch somebody who's a master of their craft

The ford ain’t leaking, it’s marking its spot!

@cheyneanderson5222

4 жыл бұрын

Its sweating horsepower

@HighlanderNorth1

3 жыл бұрын

It's not a Harley dude! Lol

The 351C is one of the Iconic engines like the 427 side oiler. For decades Bob Glidden dominated Pro stock with this brute despite chevy and mopars attempts to ban it. The 69 Mach 1 351 C 4 spd combo has been the demise of so many BB mopars and chevys the list is endless. That motor like the 427 is capable of scary scary hp and torque.

I had a 2v 351 Cleveland in my '72 Mercury Montego GT and boy that car was a screamer! even though it was stock and didn't even have a 4v or headers,it still went like a bat out of hell! sounds good too.thanks again guys. ☆☆☆

@orieandlindamartin1632

9 ай бұрын

I'm a cleveland fanatic from way back had one in a Pantera!!

@gordocarbo

6 ай бұрын

Dan from So Cal? If so Im the one that put your cam in

These Cleveland 351 engines were great in the Australian Ford XY GT Falcons

@buddyrojek9417

8 ай бұрын

Also could buy the engines from factory and mate put in his ski boat 🚤 4v heads

@adriaandeleeuw8339

3 ай бұрын

I had one in an Australian 1978 XC FAIRMONT GXL.I wish I still had it.

That is one of the best engines ever made!!!

Cleveland’s are fantastic. My 393 Stroke Cleveland is putting out 650 HP N/A :)

I worked on a woman's Ford Torino that she said was running a little rough. I took the car for a test drive and put the gas pedal to the floor and it burned rubber all the way down the street. Lifted the hood and there sat a cleveland...great engine!

@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043

4 жыл бұрын

Must be used to driving 4 cylinder honda. This made 352hp at 5300rpm and 392hp at 3800rpm

@scorpiuswireless1

3 жыл бұрын

Nice to know you abuse clients cars. Tool.

@dad5650

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't a client, it was a friend and that's what it needed, a good carbon cleaning. It ran great! Tool

@dad5650

3 жыл бұрын

@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 The Honda back then had a twin cylinder motorcycle engine....600, I think. They had just started making cars.

@scorpiuswireless1

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah right.

Oh, man, that rumble takes me waaaaay back. Dad had a 351 in his cougar when I was a little kid (sold the car in 1980 or so), and that was my lullaby when I couldn't fall asleep.

I used to eat all my friends with my 70 Cougar XR7 with the 351 C including 70 Novas with quads and I had a 2 barrel. I knew that C was special.

Nice seeing a Ford motor on your dyno Mr. Nick!!

@nickpanaritis4122

6 жыл бұрын

joe Gaskill. Yes indeed. It is nice of course. That is what all American Muscle Engines is about and what I love. Good to see all kinds.

@aaronford7124

4 жыл бұрын

My combo is a zero decked 20 over 2v 351. I did light pocket work behind the valves and port matched the intake. I used an RPM intake and 1 3/4 headers. I also used the Pertronix with a recurve kit to bring timing in a bit earlier. My cam is the 265DEH grind from Comp. It runs like a scalded ape. Sounds great through chambered mufflers. Any more Cleveland content coming?

Here in Australia the 351C was THE engine for the ford brigade. Made famous here in Ford Australia's XY Falcon GTHO Phase 3. The hero car for the early 70's. They sell for over half a million with perfect examples going for almost One Million. Claimed output was around 380 bhp with a top speed of 140mph. The 351 was a brilliant engine, Aussie's never really took to the big blocks, perhaps because they just weren't an option for us here. A Ford American exec looking after Ford Aus (Bill Bourke) did have a big block shoe horned into an XW falcon back in the day though. It can be googled, along with the XY GTHO

Never was a Ford guy, but that 351 Cleveland is one Bad A.. engine! I use to work with a dude who have one of these motors in his 90's mustang and that ride would hall A..!

Back in 1969, I factory ordered a Mustang Grande with 351 Cleveland, 450 holly carb, Dual Exhaust, and AT. The 0-120mph was 13 seconds. BTW, it cost $CDN4,750 back then. That engine idled soo smooth, that on several occasions, I tried to start it, thinking it had stalled. The grinding of the starter said otherwise!.

@borisbash

5 жыл бұрын

Paul Moffat: You related to Allan? The racing driver.

In Australia, in the 70s-80s the Cleveland was Ford’s king of v8’s, ford Australia redesigned the us engine and gave it thicker cylinder walls to overcome overheating issues that plagued the USA Cleveland engine. The Cleveland powered phase 4 falcon in 1972 was to have over 400hp, but the Australian government stepped in and stopped production claiming they were too dangerous to sell to the public, 😢

Rule 1: Newer isn't always better! Rule 2: NEVER throw anything away!

@ckelley63

5 жыл бұрын

Your so delicious!

@jquest43

5 жыл бұрын

mad ass you're a bad egg

@acts2211

5 жыл бұрын

Never throw it away a special it works perfectly when you take it off the car

@alansmollen

5 жыл бұрын

I gave up driving a car, because living in Japan One does not need a car. Your rules are totally on top dead center.

@kanishkdhanker0280

5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see you Outside of LinkedIn.

1973 Ford Falcon XB GT coupe is the original MAD MAX car in the movie ,every Australian should know this . What a great iconic Australian muscle car I don’t work on that many V8 ‘s or older powered one’s ,but I do love my Australian V8 muscle cars . What a machine !!!! As we say here in Australia. Great work mates cheers

@mrmadunit3923

10 ай бұрын

THESE GUYS AR CANADIAN LOL they may have never seen a falcon hardtop in real life,sad to say but that coupe is pig ugly and much bigger

Good to see you are using a Motors auto repair manual for reference - best damn manuals ever.

Wow, that's a healthy 351. Sounds sweet as can be.

A real first class show , Thanks Nick and your crew .

One of my favorite videos Nick , Bravo Brothermou! A set of good headers was worth at least another 25hp.

had a 1970 torino gt with a 351c 4v man i loved that engine made lots of power

@jglayden

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 70' and a 71' Torino with the 351 4v and another engine on a stand. They all have the closed chamber heads.

@dalecarter4025

5 жыл бұрын

Yea,that 70 and 71 was the best. I had a 73 4v 4 bolt main,spread bore carb,but it was lower compression. I think it was the Cleveland cj.

@unicornwolfteam718

4 жыл бұрын

I had a 70 torino also. Raced it at the strip. With a sig erson Viking cam and double matching valve springs engine would touch 8,100 rpm. The track said if you race the car next time put a roll bar in it.

@bobski8203

4 жыл бұрын

My Torino had a 351 Windsor, which sang sweetly at 5500 RPM, and a local guy had reworked it with a police pursuit transmission. I never heard it sing until I was cruising 140 taking my mother to the hospital. After that, I knew what I had. I thought about doing a B&B, but I was afraid the added confidence would be dangerous to my health and that of my neighbors, so I didn't do it. I regret selling the car when I was broke, but the guy that got it was a street-rodder and gave me $8k. Not bad for my $3k investment. I miss it, and I still hear it singing in my dreams.

@passinthru5992

4 жыл бұрын

I ordered 1970 Torino 351 Cleveland 4 speed,positraction with the shaker hood scoop. Wimbledon white,black guts. Very fun. I traded in my 1969 Mach 1 with 4 speed 351 wins or gulfstream aqua,gold stripes,white guts. What a blast those cars were.

I had a T-Bucket 351Cleavland with a 400hp motor.Mild cam.Closed chamber 302 heads.Ported & ground 2.5cc out to lower compression as Leaded fuel was band .I had to run 12 deg static timing and 28 deg by 2500rpm .The 750 Vac secondary Holley Carbi had 4mm holes drilled into the butterflies to fix jetting problems.On the 1250 kg ,3 speed Auto T-bucket it did 11.8 second 1/4 mile runs.I had Chevy & Holden motors but this was the best design motor .It never let me down .

@nickpanaritis4122

5 жыл бұрын

chris lomas. The 351 Cleveland is a great engine for performance.

I had a 1972 Ford Grand Torino, 351 Cleveland, FX transmission. It come with a 2BBL, I replaced it with a Holly 500 2BBL, then adapted a Chevy Quadrajet. Both carbs allowed me to drive 39mph, challenge anything even Vetts, I could Slam the Automatic shifter into 1st gear and wind out first gear to 55mph then shift up and would wrap the Speedo all the way around back to Zero. Oh do I miss her!! Never any mechanical failures anywhere on that car.

@oldpolak5203

4 жыл бұрын

I used to do that to my poor Monza , my friends thought I was nuts !

You have to love the way the engine gargles when it its in idle.

Mopar fan but like at all and I love the fact that Nick likes to bring out the best in every brand of car engine

Back then the Ford Motor Company factory shop manual published by Helms said to use silicone sealer in the corners where the block rear main gasket meets the pan gaskets. Us really old guys remember things like that from 50 years ago, but we forget where we put our eyeglasses down 5 minutes ago.

@pgtmr2713

5 жыл бұрын

I have to do the same thing for my Mazda valve covers. So of course the guy I bought my engine from had the stuff all along the whole gasket path. Leaked something horrible. Everything else, the guy did right.

My favorite ford motor.

Ol' Cleve's feelin' positively young again - got its salty back, ready to hop some tires!

Mr Nick You Are The Best Man For The Job On Any Engine 👍👍👍👍

What I like about NG is that there is no bullshit. He is the best for getting the best out of fairly standard muscle engines. And yes, Nick, 351s always fart around with their electrics. But a good 351 will match a good 350 Chevvy. The only problem is the weight. Aluminium heads and intake would get over 400 out of this engine.

By far my favorite classic engine. Ive owned 3 of those engines ( 2 mustangs and a torino gt) and they were all a blast to drive!

I can almost smell the unburned fuel ! You gotta love this Nick guy...he obviously likes what he does for a living!

Jon Kaase has made a living building Clevelands and destroying SBC in Engine Masters competitions .

@caratcranker5874

4 жыл бұрын

Really? can you give me a video of this? [sounds awesome.....] Oval and out...haha.

@johnwilburn

4 жыл бұрын

@@caratcranker5874Just search the Engine Masters competitions on KZread. He's built many of the less common Ford engines to win.

@robertfox977

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe but. You can make SBC horsepower cheaper than any Ford engine

@johnwilburn

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah..... yawn.... you can also dump nitrous on anything. It’s not how fast you go, but how you go fast.

@BobbyOfEarth

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, Bob Glidden had pretty good luck over the years doing the same thing in NHRA ProStock.

We're old now boys, but we got to live some very cool times. My fav and the one I learned most and raced was the "Bullet" combo. Mine was a 67 fastback 390 GT 4-speed and nodular 9 inch. They were slugs compared to new cars, so we had to learn how to tune them for speed. I called my 390 a baby 427 because that's how it was built and ran when I got done with it. It was a blast.

@yourhandlehere1

5 жыл бұрын

I learned to drive in a 390 station wagon when I was 12. It got put through hell by my older brothers, my sister liked to jump railroad tracks (all 4 wheels off the ground). One brother raced it at a dirt track on the weekend, got 2nd place, washed it and brought it home. (It's the family car, dad drives to work every day and we take vacations in) We traded it for a 73 Dart, saw it a few weeks later in a driveway almost folded in half with some slotted mags on it.

Another one of Nick's build .....awesome SHOP, whenever you go to his shop always a car show.........

I was sitting on my patio, unwinding after the night shift at work. The notice popped up. A new episode of Nick's Garage. I tapped the notification and started watching until the 66 Charger appeared. I suddenly realized something and paused it. Gotta get my black , Nick's Garage T-shirt. It's not the same without it. Mr Nick, I know you do what you do because you love what you do. All these late nights and weekends are going to burn you out. Set some time aside for you and your family. You'll never go wrong on that.

@NicksGarage

6 жыл бұрын

Right on, Dog.

@woodey028

6 жыл бұрын

C'mon Dog True words of WISDOM :)

@dillee9988

3 жыл бұрын

It's not work when you enjoy what you do.

I am a big fan of the 390 but, that Cleveland is hands down nice!

@notsure7874

3 жыл бұрын

The 390 is really a better engine in almost every way I can think of - particularly with mains priority oiling. They're also easier to find stuff for - just a bit heavier. But the 351C is a cool machine in its own right.

@timclaus8313

3 жыл бұрын

@@notsure7874 Once you go to an aluminum top end and manifold, lightens them up pretty good.

@jamesbaskins6351

3 жыл бұрын

I had. 390 in my first car. It was s 63 .i had a 71. Fastback it got stolen from me

@hessranch

7 ай бұрын

The 390 was such a great engine. We had one in our ranch truck. It could pull a ton and also haul ass. Best dual purpose engine Ford ever built.

Great video, guys. Really nice to see some Ford power on the dyno for a change. That thing believes it's a BOSS 351 powerplant.

@dalecarter4025

5 жыл бұрын

They had said that the boss 351 was faster than the 429scj

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

@@dalecarter4025 helps being about 400lbs lighter!

We stuffed a 4v Cleveland in a 1988 Ford Ranger back in 1990. Dropped 9” Rear End in it and had lots of fun. It had a split duration camshaft solid lifters. I didn’t know much about cars and engines but my brother in law and another friend engineered that project. I would roll around the streets of Western Kentucky and that thing just had a sound like never heard since and it was a beast. People would just gawk at it. It was more fun than I ever had in my life. I was originally going to put a 302 in it but then we thought nah let’s put a Cleveland in it. Lol.

@billdang3953

20 күн бұрын

Imagine if it had the Cleveland's relative, the 400 with 500+ HP and 500+ Ft lbs torque. It would be hard getting rear tires to last with an engine like that.

Nick the mad genius.

'72 351HO Mustang would flat out fly! Never got any pre-race respect. Post race got accused of hiding the bottle. The Cleveland was a diamond.

@joeross6523

5 жыл бұрын

Too bad they're so damn ugly!

@lilythomson881

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeross6523 There is NOTHING ugly about that engine.

@joeross6523

4 жыл бұрын

@@lilythomson881 I was talking about '72 mustangs, they're ugly as hell.

@lilythomson881

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeross6523 I disagree there as well. The 71 to 73 Mustang Fastback was a gorgeous car. Now that Mad Max car that this engine is going back into, well, that's another matter.

@slyane7320

4 жыл бұрын

Had a 72 Mach1,351CJ,C6,& a 3.25 9in...dang near bulletproof, the Cleveland made power up higher in the rpm range than other small blocks.

Another Badass video from you Nick.! You'll find that oil leak that customer was very happy about his engine!! Keep up the good work!!!

Old school engine guy for sure. No ear plugs. Tunes by sound and feel.

Cruised main in late 70's... 71 Cougar with a 351C... Could smoke the tires at the turn around so badly... cars had to wait a minute to see to drive!!! GREAT TIMES... GREAT GIRLFRIENDS!

One horsepower per cube on an engine that doesn't even have headers is impressive .

@scottford1091

11 ай бұрын

And a stock cast iron low rise intake too!

Back in the day I had a 71 Torino GT 351C4v that ran 14.08@100+ on street tires!

@wreckanchor

5 жыл бұрын

My boss has a 71 Torino GT with the Original 351 C in it just wasting away in his fathers yard. C6 & 9 inch rear etc. its all there but I would guess rust has claimed the body.

Had a new 73’ Torino fastback. Medium blue/white vinyl top. Fairly common car around town. Except this was what made mine different from all the rest of them. It has a 351C with a 4V carb. Blue Ben h seats and stuck in the middle coming out the floor was a Hurst 4 speed and two chrome exhaust tips coming out the rear. Topped off with I believe were the Firestone 500’s 15” and 15” turbo wheels all the way around. Big car.Heavy looking car. Remember being at the local restaurant with curb service and “Me and Mrs. Jones” playing on the AM radio. I wasn’t smart enough to realize what I had !!! Life goes on though !!!

The Clevland engine was developed at the height of the muscle car era and Ford, along with GM and Chrysler, were fudging hp numbers to beat the insurance companies. The NHRA knew this and classified cars in stock and super stock according to real world hp numbers. Not to surprising that a 351C with 4V heads and a slightly bigger cam made 352 hp.

Nice build, Nick. Great channel. Thanks for sharing.

The Cleveland,,, best sounding engine ford ever built ; )

Some day, hopefully soon, I will be as happy at work and eager to stay late as Nick is. You are living the dream my friend and I have a feeling that you are aware of that fact.

That Cleveland is just starting to breathe at 5000 rpm

@alexcorona

6 ай бұрын

It’s got a stock cam so that’s all it’s got. They really need a Intake cam and headers and it’s not hard making 100-150HP over stock. You can’t say that about most engines, to hit those numbers it required a head swap.

Excellent numbers with cast iron exhaust manifolds !

If I suspected rear main seal leak (or any oil leak not related to dyno fittings), the first thing I would have done is hook up the PCV to eliminate crankcase pressure. I'm surprised a seasoned veteran like Nick wouldn't have tried that first.

@nickpanaritis4122

6 жыл бұрын

marcmielhausen1971. I am very well aware of crankcase pressure build up. PCV valve was working, and also the breather was OK also. And yes, it was a Dyno fitting at the rear of the engine, just under the rag.

@marcmielhausen1971

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but I can see in the video that the PCV valve isn't connected to manifold vacuum and the other crankcase vent isn't connected to an air breather (venturi vacuum). I'm glad it was something simple and that is definitely one stout engine you've built.

Love that sound. Gave me goosebumps when if fired.

LOVE Your Work, Awesome Job Nick

i had a Grand torino 73 for my first car with a 351 C and loved it and i did a lot of crazy thing ....that car I LOVED IT AND MISSSSSSSS IT A LOT

1 HP for every C.I. naturally aspirated. That's impressive!

If you really care about your engine and you use a flat tappet cam, start the engine with soft valve springs. Then switch them back. Don't take short cuts. Its hard to explain but if you are any good at being a mechanic, hang the#1 plug out on side of block well grounded put your finger near spark plug hole. Turn engine over, don't pump the gas' and notice when spark and compression happens. If you are good you know when you are close. Replace plug. Pump gas sparingly. This is simplified but if you are good, you can always start an engine quick and easy this way. I have done this hundreds of times.

Delish posted "NEVER throw anything away"...I've spent several decades making Blue-Oval things REALLY LOUD, and I always had a collection of scrap distributor shafts pulled outta' the housing, with timing cog knocked off. Chuck-it-up in the ol' Craftsman 3/8", stick it back in the hole, and let 'er rip until you see the rockers gettin' "buttery". It also gives a positive confirmation that the oil pump is working, and you can trust the gauges...

Wow! That's impressive. True craftsmanship. Love your channel.

This guy never worked a day in his life, you can tell he loves what he does.

Thank god they didn't stuff up another XB Falcon Coupe to make one of these.

The more young guys that hang around you the better. Your knowledge is gold.

Nick's Garage is awesome, thank you very much.

one horse per cube right off the bat!

@tragiclife9760

4 жыл бұрын

1 hp per cube is a weak knees hot rod. I've built many sbc,s that pit out 2hp per cube and were streetable,not saying stock,but who builds a stock hot rod

Hey Nick, love your adventures in the dyno room!

NICK saw something he didn't like. It was the big BLUE OVAL on the valve cover because Nick loves NOPARS! This engine would easily make another 20HP if it was twisted to 6200rpm. Back in the day it was proven that FORD under estimated the HP on all their High Performance engines.

In the MAD MAX movie, where MAX meets up with the guys to see the "Interceptor" for the first time, that engine was a PONTIAC block. I read it an article in HPP "High Performance Pontiac". It's been years, but it had to do with how the Aussies used to use PONTIAC blocks like LS swaps today. They didn't have a FORD 6-71 blower setup, so the "Money Shot" is a PMD mill.

NICK, Tell you a funny story. Some years after Ford intro the Cleveland 351 Ford needed more power for their station wagon line. One of their engineers came up with the idea to punch out a 351 to 400 add cleveland heads and the combo worked great! it increased the power to just where Ford needed it. SO, while DIY were scouring every wrecking yard in north america for 351 with cleveland heads, those same yards were probably full of station wagons with the 400 in them. !

Those Clevelands sound just lovely at idle. Done a few for Panteras, they can make some sick power, with the right bits. Loads of fun on quad webbers!!

@SuspenseESCAPEremastered

5 жыл бұрын

Of all the classic Ford Muscle cars I had during the 70's and 80's the '70 Mach 1 351C was my favorite. And you're right! They have a sound all their own.

@patrickmcdonald3427

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuspenseESCAPEremastered I had a '70 notchback with a 302/3 speed while in high school, then bought '73 Mach with it's original engine replaced with a 351C 2 BBL. it turned out a rocker broke, so I found a '73 351C Cobra Jet engine and all was REALLY WELL!

@PlymouthVT

4 жыл бұрын

You had me at Pantera sir.

Another Masterpiece from Nick - thank you!

@NicksGarage

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks King!

Call me old. I once built a copy of my Dad's Imperial. He wanted it stripped. After I painted the car with it's black over gold motif, we pulled out the interior. All the power options were gone. We put in a 6 point roll cage, a genuine Hurst automatic shifter with roll control. A 472ci 6 pack. Heavy duty brakes. We got the monster to turn 12s. Now, it seems a shame to do what we did to the Imp. Call me old, but I want a comfortable car. Fast and comfortable don't have to be mutual exclusive now. You rock Nick! The way of the muscle car will never die. Tommy

That's great proof of how easy it is to make reliable HP and torque out of these old girls. That why they were used by Ford here in Australia for so long. They don't have to have spastic cams and mods to make respectable, reliable HP.

Had a 351 H.O. in a 70 Maverick grabber 4 speed quick change a slight high rise with a 1150 double pumper back in the day it was hard to beat.

@wendlormsby

4 жыл бұрын

You would have been quicker with a 650, vacuum secondary Holley carb, Darrell...and got way better gas mileage!

Cooper River Dragstrip just outside of Summerville SC (It was 1988) Mustang 351 Cleveland 4 speed running against a 70 Chevelle LS6 454 4 speed the Mustang won 3 out of 3 races by 2 car lengths every time. That's when I gained a real respect for the Cleveland engine.

Hey nick ,i discover your channel randomly,the first video i see was the one at the orange julep in mtl,im from mtl too,now im in ste Sophie,i Watch a lot of car channels but i swear your the best car channel of them all !

The Cleveland 351 is a great engine.

@nickpanaritis4122

6 жыл бұрын

7s29. I agree with you 100%.

@Frank289100

5 жыл бұрын

@7s29, AND THE CLEVELAND STILL LIVES. THE 351 CLEVELAND TOTALLY AND SINGLE HANDEDLY CHANGED THE FACE OF PROSTOCK DRAG RACING FOREVER. THE 351 CLEVELAND DOMINATED PROSTOCK TO THE POINT WHERE THEY MADE THE FORD'S CARRY 250LBS MORE WEIGHT AND THEY STILL WON. THE NHRA THEN LET THE CHEVY'S/CHRYSLER/ETC REMOVE MORE WEIGHT AND THE FORD'S ONCE AGAIN STILL WON. THE EMINANT DOOM OF THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY WAS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND THE NIGHTMARE GM FEARED WOULD SOON BECOME A REALITY OF PROSTOCK BEING TOTALLY POWERED BY THE 351 CLEVELAND MOTORS. THEN IN 1983 THE NHRA (ANOTHER DIVISION OF GM) HAD THEIR HENCHMEN IN THE NHRA MANDATED THE 500ci RULE AS A PLOY TO STOP FORD FROM DOMINATING PROSTOCK ANYMORE. SO THE NHRA ALLOWS GM ALONG WITH WARREN JOHNSON TO BUILD A NEW ENGINE CALLED "THE DRCE - DRAG RACE COMPETITION ENGINE". SO GM TAKES THE OLDSMOBILE BLOCK AND STUFFS IT LIKE A THANKSGIVING DAY TURKEY WITH A CAM AND ROTATING ASSEMBLY FROM A BIG BLOCK CHEVY AND THEN WARREN JOHNSON HAS A BIG PAIR OF FORD CLEVELAND HEADS MADE FOR IT. SO SINCE 1983 TO PRESENT WHAT CHEVY HAS BEEN WINNING WITH IS A FORD CLEVELAND ENGINE. THIS IS THE REASON FORD DOESN'T GET INVOLVED IN PROSTOCK RACING. BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY FORD POWERED. AT THIS POINT BOB GLIDDEN GOES OUT AND GETS HIMSELF A BOSS 429 ENGINE AND SLAUGHTERS ALL OF THEM. EVERY YEAR AS GM/CHEVY GOT FASTER WITH THERE GENERIC FORD CLEVELAND ENGINE. BOB GLIDDEN WOULD SLIGHTLY PORT THE BOSS HEADS KEEPING HIMSELF AHEAD OF THE CHEVY'S AND THE REST OF THEM INCLUDING THE HEMI'S. IT REACHED THE POINT WHERE FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN WERE GETTING READY TO CAST A NEW FORD BOSS HEAD AND MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN NAMED "THE SUPER BOSS HEADS". AT THIS POINT THE CHEATERS THE NHRA TO PUT CHEVY AND KEEP CHEVY IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE TOLD FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE A 1000 PAIRS OF THESE HEADS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IF THEY WANTED TO RACE. THE NHRA KNEW THE BOSS MOTORS WERE MADE IN LIMITED NUMBERS AND A MARKET FOR THESE HEADS DIDN'T EXIST. OBVIOUSLY THEY KNEW FORD WASN'T GOING TO SPEND COUNTLESS MILLIONS TO PRODUCE HEADS FOR A MOTOR THAT NO LONGER EXISTED. FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN THEN TOLD THE NHRA TO GO "F" THEMSELVES. THIS IS HOW FORD'S DOMINANCE IN PROSTOCK CAME TO AN END. IN 1980 BOB GLIDDEN DID SWITCH OVER TO CHRYSLER AND WON BEATING THE FORD'S ONLY FOR ONE REASON. LIKE THE CHEVY'S THE CHRYSLERS ALSO BENEFITTED FROM THE WEIGHT BREAK OF NOT HAVING TO CARRY 250 MORE POUNDS AND ALSO THE NHRA ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE OFF EVEN MORE WEIGHT ON TOP OF THE WEIGHT FORD WAS CARRING. THE FORD CLEVELAND MOTOR WAS THE ULTIMATE IN POLY ANGLE HEAD DESIGN. IT IS SO STATE OF THE ART THAT DOEN'T GEY ANY BETTER. IT IS HARD TO IMPROVE ON IT INITIAL DESIGN. TODAY YOUR SYMMETRICAL RACE MOTORS LABEDED AS CHEVY ARE ACTUALLY FORD CLEVELAND DESIGNS. YOUR MOUNTAIN MOTORS LABELED AS CHEVY ARE FORD BOSS 429 DESIGNS. THE ADVANTAGE OF THE BOSS HAS OVER THE HEMI LIES IN ITS CRESENT SHAPE COMBUSTION CHAMBER. THE CRESENT SHAPE, ANGLES THE FLOW ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE INTAKE AND EXHAUST OFF SETTING THE VALVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE INTAKE AND EXHAUST SO IT IS NOT STRAIGHT. WHAT THIS DOES IS SLOW DOWN THE FUEL/AIR MIXTURE GIVING IT ENOUGH TIME TO COMPLETELY BURN FOR THE MOST EFFICIENT MAXIMUM BURN FOR MAXIMUM POWER. ON THE OTHER HAND THE HEMI DESIGN BEING STRAIGHT THROUGH ACROSS, DOESN'T ALLOW THE AIR/FUEL MIXTURE ENOUGH TIME TO FULLY BURN CREATING INEFFICIENCIES. THE CLEVELAND IS OF A SIMILAR DESIGN TO THE BOSS AND THE REASON THE CHEVY "DRCE" DOMINATES OVER THE HEMI FOR MANY YEARS IN PROSTOCK.

@hoey3510

5 жыл бұрын

7s29 ?

@hoey3510

5 жыл бұрын

6 pack hey 😁🤣🤣

@petroldevo9934

5 жыл бұрын

It depends if it's a Windsor or a Cleveland.

Had a 1970 Cougar XR7 with the 351 Cleveland. Was a fun car.

Ah the old clevo. Having done many hours with those engines there are a few tricks to apply for a reliable engine. The cooling system is NUMBER 1 as Ford stopped making the ORIGINAL bucket thermostats. The pumps are atrocious so that is a very important must do. To give you an idea we eventually achieved fuel economy of 580 km using 60 liters of LPG or as you guys know it as propane. Power was never dynoed but I managed to tear engines mounts continually. You have a long way to go guys.

J'aime le dual spark , I had a 428CJ with dual spark. The Carb I converted to manual secondaries, mechanical linkage got rid of vacuum spark advance as well. I went to centrifugal advance, so easy to change. Carry on doing this as long as you can my fellow Canadian! Hey also enjoy the Fete en Quebec!

I wouldn't trade a blownup Cleveland for all the Windsor engines made!!!!!!!

I built a 351, ported, polished, 750 holley, big cam, high rise manifold, 11 to 1 heads, anti pump up lifters, electronic ignition ect. Gave big blocks a run for their money. Put it in my 4x4 half ton pickup last 10 years, beast!