A special Thank You! To Ron Deak for the gifts to me and the channel! I love the "new to me" vise! Its great know a fellow machinist in my area and glad to have a new friend! Thanks Ron! ~ Richard

Hey Richard- Thanks for the shout-glad the vice is going to work. Yes, you could have used the Bridgeport but then we would not have had a great video of you demonstrating '' Improvise-Adapt-Overcome''. I love the home grown aluminum - MSFN !!

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron!, yes the vise is terrific...love it. Thanks again!! Ohhhh, there is always a lot of Improvise & adapt over here at my shop....its the "overcome" part I need to work on. I do want to stop over and see your mill in action next time you have a project goin on....I wanna see a real mill eat!

@johnstrange6799

6 жыл бұрын

Very generous. Good on you.

The man who never made a mistake never made anything, good luck mate and I wish I had a mill and the room for one.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Friend!

I know how you feel about not having the right set up hardware. Thanks for using the vacuum and not the air. This was the first piece of advice I got. Your video inspires me. Thank you.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ron, I appreciate ya watching and commenting ~ Richard

Ron is a really good guy to offer so much help and material, I need to find a Ron to learn from and talk to!

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Ron is a super nice guy, his equipment makes mine look like toys. I am very grateful for the gifts he gave me 😊

I am pleased to see you take such care making these. You could have easily just bucked them out with having them useable. Now you can be proud of your handmade tooling that will most likely last a lifetime plus. Doing a project with what you have and making it work and look professional is in my world soooo very satisfying. Stretch out your R. arm and give yourself a good pat on the back fella.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dean, I appreciate ya! ~ Richard

great job

I don't have any milling experience either so I'd say you did a fine job, especially with no secure vice! Good job my friend.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, total newb here...doing my best! Thanks for Watching!

Nice job especially for the first time. Steve

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated, it was great fun, shame the metal was crappy tho once milling into it

Tramming the vice: If you bolt a long piece of bright bar stock to the mill table, and tram it properly, you can clamp the vice to it upside down then, moving only the longitudinal travel of the mill, bore two shallow holes in the bottom of the vice, and put a threaded hole in the bottom. Make these in line with the clamping holes on the lathe. Then you make two buttons that just fit into the T-slots of the mill. You can just drop these buttons into the T-slot, and the vice will be trammed every time.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Now that sounds pretty brilliant now that I am picturing it. I like that idea. Its the kind of of stuff I do alot of on this channel....unorthodox but gets the job done! Not sure if you subscribe me but please stop back and share more stuff like that ~ Richard

Very cool man! A simple task that’s not so simple to do. They’re turning out great though.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks ETX, I dont have much (none) experience at milling but the amount of work, number of operations and accuracy required to make 4 simple identical parts soon became apparent once I got started

Sure is good to see you have a mill. Thanks for sharing this video.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

A baby mill is better than no mill! Great to see you Glenn, hope all is well. For now its all about how to properly set up the work to accurately machine it....I have lots to learn for sure!

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

I also been having a lot of fun on the lathe lately....I love machining! 😊

Don't apologize for not having all the right tools...... We all got to start somewhere and for your limited tooling I think you did alright for the job at hand. I have been doing this stuff for many years and even now I don't always have the "right tool" so don't sweat it. Just be careful and get in there and get it done. People learn by doing and doing it some more and in time it will come together. Little tip on climb milling. Yes you get the best finish just make sure you tighten your gibs so the cutter doesn't grab your work and snatch it out.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Tips on how to do things better are always appreciated. Thank You! Documenting my first milling job was a bit nerve racking. If I climb mill on this little guy its gonna be .002 at best. Part 2 is out if you have interest 😊

I'm just about to start doing the same thing for a new vise. I'm currently using the smallest toe clamps in my set to bite into the slot that runs across the bottom of the vise. No need to keep removing the clamps for every operation that way.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, I just want to bolt the vise down once and be done with it. Hope you stick around for Part 2 :-)

Great job. Maybe if you reduce the depth of the cut and take multiple passes for the slot it would work better? Seems like a lot of tool against the work. What kind of mill do you have?

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, As you can see I was going for the gusto on making the slot in one pass(FAIL) Yes, I am sure your idea would have worked good. I will address how I will put the slot in in part 2. Its what I call a Frankenstein Mill, its a milling head from a Grizzly Lathe/Mill combo thats mounted to an X/Y table from another machine tool of unknown origin

@johnstrange6799

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds cool, and looks like it works well. Good job putting that together. Best stock up on 1/8" end mills. When they meet Gusto.. it ain't pretty. :)

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Lmao, I have yet to break one, but I am sure its in my future! 😊

Looks like a drill press vise but sure it would work.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

I am totally new to this type of machine work so I am not sure. I can say its much better than what I had. There is no markings on it

You can always drill multiple holes to make a poor slot, and then mill the litle > < 's that are between the holes.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Yup! I am learning....thanks for chiming in! I shoulda took a break and thought about it some more

Richard, great to get to see you making chips on your mill. So it was looking like you were taking the slot to whole depth in a single path. Maybe you should take a smaller doc and make multiple passes? Just a guess for me because as little milling experience as you have, ... well it is 100% more than the experience I have. Thanks for sharing. I know you will figure it out and show me how to do it so I can be lazy. :-) Joe

@StephenMortimer

6 жыл бұрын

2:45 I am just bubbling with GLEE .. here come the BUNGLES !!

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Well, we cant be here all day so let her rip! LOL Its much different than a lathe but have watched enough milling videos to know what to do....LOTS TO LEARN! 😊

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Its no Bridgeport, thats for sure Steve!

@StephenMortimer

6 жыл бұрын

I am MOLLIFIED .. ya pulled it out at the end ..(why delete the cursing?)

@StephenMortimer

6 жыл бұрын

pulled it OFF at the end (getting senile)

Little mills will do a good job. Just need to work with them..Like you said the mill may be dull or you may have been trying too much of a cut, did you try multiple passes at a small depth. If the slot didn't work then the mill was dull

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

It was an endmill I got with the mill when I picked it up, I am pretty sure it was in bad shape from the previous owners abuse. I dont have enough experience to say for sure tho. I dont own a brand new endmill to compare. I guess all that will come with time and experience

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Pretty happy with the result so far on the project...thanks for watching

End mills should never be used in a drill chuck. They chatter a lot and neither the end mill nor the chuck are happy about it. That being said, you work with what you've got. Nice work.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are so right. In this video I am holding the endmills in a collet however and not a drill chuck. Me thinks it was just a wore out endmill as all it did was rub and not cut...I need to get some tooling for this little guy :)

Hello Richard. I can only hope and Pray U get enough Tooling to be able to work efficiently with Your Machines. Just one worry though .....U started out with Aluminium for these Vise Clamps which we reckon was not such a good idea in the first place. We are pretty certain U must have Steel, any scrap, so-called-mystery Steel, lying around which would definitely have been a better, stronger and more Rigid option to hold down that Milling Vise. Ideal would be some Tool Steel. From the little we know, when U think and do Milling, U only want RIGIDITY. And that Aluminium is soft - to say the least. And while we are talking Milling, GANG Milling like U just did with all Four Clamps, it's also a good bet to Shim the pieces on the Movable Jaw side so that will ensure ALL the Pieces are well Gripped in the Vise Jaws. Otherwise, 'twas good watching and learning from U as well as U have to really improvise and make do with what U have which stretches our imagination to think Laterally. Just our two cents...... No offence meant. Looking forward to part Two !!! Pray U get loads of Tooling from Well Wishers and enough Jobs to keep Your Machines humming sweetly. ATB aRM

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Hi aR M, I had no steel around here that was thick enough to make these clamps out of. Is aluminum a terrible choice?....Absolutely! But its what I had and even then it took a lot of lathe work to get it usable....I am not used to needing flat stock around here so obtaining mill food is certainly on the to do list. The plan is to make this aluminum set and hope they last long enough to hold the vise down for my next milling job....remaking a new set of clamps from steel.....that was the plan all along. I just need to get the vise held down without having a contraption on my table...LOL This job if not anything else....was good practice on use of a mill since I never used one....even if these aluminum clamps are temporary....I think they will get me by until I make a set of steel ones (I hope) Richard

Chatter means poor workhold. Push your mill ends a little more, learn their upper limit. A lot of mills are happy very close to their limit, because then the steel is stretched and is extra rigid.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

I should have held them sideways so I had more surface contact with the part....I got tons to learn about milling. Thanks for the suggestions!

@dimitar4y

6 жыл бұрын

It's a bad idea to learn milling in such a dotted way, where you learn all tricks of the trade as just tricks. You need to get a better understanding of the whole process. It's best to imagine a line between the spindle, going through the xyz axises, then through the vice, and to the actual workpiece. The shorter that line is, and the less interruptions there are, the better results. Then to get best tool use, you need to use a formula that determines the "load per tooth" according to what your spindle's maximum power is. This guarantees perfect machining. Also it helps to imagine every operation, to "project" it onto the workpiece in your mind, and see how that can work out in real life, and maybe even find a way to do multiple operations with one setup. Hope this helps. If not, shoot me another message.

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Well, I gotta start somewhere. I was in the same boat 15 months ago when I first got my lathe. I will learn as I go and listen to all the viewers leaving comments who have much more knowledge than myself about milling. Its a big project as a first milling job to be sure :)

I am looking to buy a mill so I can mill recievers. Hard to do with a drill press lol

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

My old drill press had a hard time makin a hole Lol

@rodneysrepurposingrecyclin3821

6 жыл бұрын

Makin Sumthin From Nuthin lol yes sir. Mine still spins, but the press part is locked up. I think it broke a tooth. I just haven't messed with it much yet. I may do a video on it. Unless I get mad and set it on fire.

hay Richard to bad you don't live near me in Kelowna Canada because I am going to be making a lot of tools for metal working in cast iron so as I make stuff il send some your way as I make it good job with the aluminum its hard to work with degas the aluminum with tablets you can buy or co2 and a good riser helps with the shrinkages and only use aluminum for other castings like car rims and truck rims this is the best for your uses its strong and less of a problem to work with .if you ever want too do cast iron work use used motor oil its cheep and way hotter than propane the best noseil too use for it is the kiwi nosel sorry bad spelling .and you'll need a vacuum motor for a blower too .

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Dan, I live in Florida. Yes, previously cast aluminum is the best source for foundry scrap, When I first started machining the ingot I had no inclusions to speak of but as I milled away at that thing the metal quality did nothing but get worse. I knew I should have grabbed the other ingot! LOL

@danvandertorre9280

6 жыл бұрын

hydrogen is produced when melting aluminum some times you can take aluminum foil and put some backing soda in it and push it too the bottom .to off gas co2 this works only if its precast ,I also have a resapey for making your own cresabuls if you want it ill send it too you on here sorry for the bad spelling I am 57 and only have a grade 2 ed so now you know why .

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

I have experimented with different degassing methods, all had limited success. My best results have always been when the molten aluminum wasnt overheated

@MakinSumthinFromNuthin

6 жыл бұрын

Dont worry about the spelling...skills outweigh the written word...and you obviously have many skills 😊 ~ Richard

@danvandertorre9280

6 жыл бұрын

thanks Richard