Been on the fence about this exact quetion for the last few weeks, and seen lots of differing views, all with unclear answers. This video was by far the best I've seen on the topic and has helped me fully make uo my mind!

This is one of the most useful channels for people who are deciding about the configurations of the new macbook pro. You helped me a lot ! Thank you.

This is the most useful channel on the internet , answering questions that's relevant and covering topics that are really useful for general macbook users

@TC-X

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! what an underrated channel!

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked the video. Appreciate your feedback. 😊

One of the advantages of having a larger RAM is that lesser swapped memory from the SSD would be used - in the long run that leads to more wear for the internal SSD. In terms of performance, both 16 and 32 would seem fine - but you might want to check how much SSD memory is being used for daily use for both capacities

You made a point that I hadn’t considered before! Namely, that new technology that might come along 5, 6, or 7 years down the road. Thanks! My decision will be easier now. 👍

Thank u so much helping us to buy the right product.. Much appreciated subscribed..

I can't speak for programming, but for print and digital designers who work in-between apps regularly, get 32gb. Working with InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop pushes me right over the top of 32gb a few times a week.

@HungryFreelancer

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that. I work in photoshop and sometimes deal with high-res posters and banners. Hasn’t considered the RAM might help out there.

@xPikaRawr

2 жыл бұрын

ive been searching for a digital designers view for SOOO LONG !! THANK YOU! exactly what i needed!

Do you use Docker in your work? And how does it affect memory usage?

Good advice--thanks!

Wow that made so much sense, I never looked at it that way. Do not upgrade to future proof upgrade only if you are needing the power now.

The only issue with 16gb of ram is that if you push your computer into needing to use swap memory, you will put wear and tare on your ssd. If you are continuously writing gigabytes and gigabytes of swap, you will have a much shorter lifespan on your computer than otherwise. I purchased the 16gb model and I immediately started using swap memory when I had three docker containers open, vscode, and a browser with a few tabs. The system can handle it seamlessly, but I was concerned about longevity. I returned it and upgraded to the 32gb model and never run into swap memory issues. To me, if you are someone who needs the power of the m1 pro, then you will probably be running enough programs to justify buying more ram to avoid swap usage. Additionally, if you are a developer, and doing anything with docker, please get at least 32gb.

@jasonwun6113

2 жыл бұрын

what software, in what arch, do you usually run? I did some experiment on my mac mini with 8g and notice intensive memory swap (500gb within 15hrs) when I tried to install and run my development environment on it. Although the latest version supports arm64 already, they are yet able to migrate to latest in very near future and Rosetta 2 is the only option for now. Now since the machine only has 8g of ram, I cannot determine whether the memory swap happens due to the ram insufficiency, or it is caused by the Rosetta 2. Let me know if you have any thought. My list: 1. .Net Core 3.1 projects (6 instances at a time) 2. Node.js 12 (one instance at a time) 3. SQL Server

@dadthelad

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your comment. I've been on the fence on if I should get 16 or 32GB, and you've nailed it for me. I will have a similar use case.

@redpillsatori3020

2 жыл бұрын

I hate Docker. It's such a bloated resource hog, but I need it for work.

@hottroddinn

2 жыл бұрын

I've been going through many, many videos the whole day and you summed up the whole argument about extra RAM especially for people who don't do video editing(another reason I'm on this channel at the moment). Unless you have a lot of money to continuously experiment in the cloud, your laptop should be the place for good development and run some servers on containers. I was really hard pressed to decide on the size of RAM and I'm now fully convinced to go for it though it's going to be expensive.

@ameyajoshi742

Жыл бұрын

Yep exactly. I heavily use VS Studio, XCode and Android Studio. VS Studio is quite lightweight and don’t put too much load on the Memory though XCode and Android Studio with Emulators take a lot of Memory especially when I have multiple Chrome Windows open. When I start my Macbook 6Gb get’s gobbled up by the OS.

Thanks. That helped me.

dude, awesome vid, thx!

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! 😊

Makes sense. Thank you for this video, looks like you saved me some money.

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! 👍

by far the most honest and useful review

Thanks for the video. Is 32gb of ram necessary for use with virtual machine? And what about the lifespan of the MacBook? Is 32gb ram a factor to improve this lifespan? Thank you.

@nicole7s

10 ай бұрын

My Macbook Pros generally last 5 years before they start showing degrading speed and other issues like battery problem. I think if you're doing heavy video editing and After Effects 32GB is better and will probably help it last a little longer. I am a graphic designer.

As others have commented, future proofing is not as relevant when technology will surpass the current M1 chips in another 2 years. Thank you for that perspective. I’m looking to replace current 16” MacBook Pro from late 2019.

Your assistance on this matter was huge …. Because I was comparing my pc windows7 32 etc with 16” 16 gb speeds. Thank a again

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Most welcome ✌️

Hi, I am looking for a new macbook for development purposes and I am confused between the 16GB MBP 14 vs M2 air 24GB ram. Please help me out. Thanks

Really helpful channel sir i wish you all best of luck for growth of channel.

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot 😊

I heavily use VS Studio, XCode and Android Studio. VS Studio is quite lightweight and don’t put too much load on the Memory though XCode and Android Studio with Emulators take a lot of Memory especially when I have multiple Chrome Windows open. I have an M1Pro 16 Inch. When I start my Macbook, 6Gb get’s gobbled up by the OS so your statements are kinda weird. Also though the M series chips are very efficient and effective though they use Swap memory. Also Apple don’t provide users to upgrade their RAM once they buy an M series laptop. A person’s needs might change after a year or so and when they might need that additional 16Gig RAM there’s no way to upgrade except for buying a new Macbook.

is 16gb ram, 1tb ssd 14inch MBP enough for professional music production?

If you use DaVinci 17 for 8K video editing, do you still think that 8GB of RAM is enough? 12K import 8K edit and export, how many GB of RAM do you think you need?

You make some good reasoning arguments on this! I have been so on the fence on this debate over the last few weeks. I keep hearing some reviewers talk about reasons for selecting 32GB being future proofing, and preparing for future needs, etc. I truly like how you have put those speculative ideas to rest. Unless there is a present need for more memory, 16GB really is enough. This is what I needed to hear today.

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help you. 😊

@cristibaluta

2 жыл бұрын

I believe most apps in the future will not use more memory unless they are poor like those electron apps. Today's apps really have everything you need from them. So if 16 is good enough for you today on intel, it will be in the future as well, for me it kind of is.

@arlencarlson

2 жыл бұрын

@@cristibaluta I have actually been thinking the same thing.

@redpillsatori3020

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to upgrade to 32GB, but I think $400 is just too much.

@V1P3R089

Жыл бұрын

@@ProgramHubNet Planning to buy macbook pro 14 inch base model for web browsing , watching KZread and doing work on Ms office. So wanted to ask that will 16 gb ram be enough as I intend to use the laptop for 4-5 years.

I'm upgrading my laptop. A MBP 14" M1 pro for the next 5-7 years. Should I get it with 16gb or 32gb? I mostly use office softwares, some mild video editing, but use a lot for web for research. Thanks!!

@henrikpetersson3463

Жыл бұрын

For your use 16 is more than enough.

Hello! I hope you could help me make a decision! I am looking to buy a new MacBook Pro, M1 Pro chip, 1TB SSD, and I am considering between 16GB or 32GB of RAM. Which one would be a better RAM choice for someone who multitasks, runs stats programs using large data sets, edits simple videos occasionally, streams online concerts, and wants to use the laptop for at least 5 years? Thank you so much!

@j0shuaj

2 жыл бұрын

I went with 32 m1 pro 1tb

For an architecture student using 3D software like rhino and blender, and a lot of intensive softwares such as cad and photoshop, would the 32 gb become way more important compared to the 16gb?

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

As far as my experience, I can preferably say that working with lots of intensive softwares in 16GB would be a good option.

I’m confused as to how you weren’t able to make the 16gb model lag? It’s very easy. Run nodeJs and open slack and open 3-4 Firefox tabs. It’s insanely annoying as I have to balance out what apps/tabs I have open. This really makes no sense. Trying to return it for more ram is a nightmare too. Won’t be in stock for months smh

@xinyucao5550

Жыл бұрын

thank you, man! this helps me make up my mind to go for the 32GB model!

is the 16gb still good to run mac OS and windows virtual machines? allocating 8gb ram on the virtual machine will it still run smoothly?

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely that’s a good choice for running virtual machines. No issues at all.

I need to quit smoking because the whole time I was watching this I was like, “bruh, please stop moving your hands so much before you knock that mic over!”

what you'd suggest? Refurbished 13" M1 MacBook Pro with 16+512gb version, at around 1600 euros, versus, 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro base version, at around 2000 euros?

@Eric-lb7ts

Жыл бұрын

14"

Planning to buy macbook pro 14 inch base model for web browsing , watching KZread and doing work on Ms office. So wanted to ask that will 16 gb ram be enough as I intend to use the laptop for 4-5 years.

@ProgramHubNet

Жыл бұрын

That would really efficient for your use for more than 4-5 years

@V1P3R089

Жыл бұрын

@@ProgramHubNet I have 6-7 tabs open in safari and no other software running in the background and my mac is using close to 13 GB ram. Any tips you can suggest

is 512GB is enough? or 1TB as a Vm user and develop some software. or 512 + external is good enough?

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

If you use multiple VMs, so I would recommend you for 1TB SSD.

Hi..thanks for the great content I would like to know..is 16gb ram enough to run applications like a few intellij, VSC, database, notepad, and a few more development applications along with docker container running let's say 5 to 6 microsevices. Do you think 16 GB is enough?

@user-ki9gf2mn1l

2 жыл бұрын

I would like to know too

@brav3hearthalo189

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Can speak from experience. Maxes out for me with vscode, nodeJs, 3 Firefox tabs and slack open. Returning it as it becomes unusable at that point. 32gb minimum IMO

I completely disagree with your statement that 16GB is enough. I’m not sure why kind of VMs you are running, but when I spin up a Windows 11 VM in Parallels and have a couple tabs open on my M1 Pro 16” with 16GB of RAM, it gets up to 90% in use and shows yellow in Activity Monitor. For this reason, I’m upgraded to an M2 Max MacBook Pro this year with 32GB of RAM. I probably don’t need the extra GPU cores of the Max chip, but I like that it has twice the memory speed compared to the M2 Pro variant. After realizing that I made a mistake with my M1 Pro, I would rather have more power than I need and not use it.

@HoratioDump6996

Жыл бұрын

This is why I am leaning towards the Mac with 32GB RAM. I would rather have too much then not enough RAM when running VM’s.

hybrid application like react native and flutter needs more than 16 gb

Hi, Did you get memory leak issue in macOs monetary ?

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

I'm currently running on the latest version of macOS Monterey 12.0.1. Since, I started using the new MacBook Pro, till now I haven't received any issues of memory leak. The memory utilisation is good, and no tasks or apps seem to consume massive amounts of RAM unnecessarily.

If you go for 32gb RAM, you may as well get the Max chip for not much more. 16gb RAM is more than enough for 90% of users.

If buying MacBook pro: go for 32GB Ram Minimum Else buy an upgraded 16gb 1TB MacBook Air TLDR Apple has the balls to sell an inferior laptop(air compared to pro) at a premium price. Apple's $400 margin is youtubers paradise (generate more views)! Air USP: design and lightweight Air cons: same as USP, less ports, inferior everything (configuration) Air attracts with sleek design and low price, but when you configure it to your liking, the price flirts with MacBook 14” pro. Once you buy it, you automatically sit and want to justify your decision and sell your opinion to everyone. Human nature! There is a lot of debate over 16gb vs 32gb and pundits sitting here explaining how 32 is an overkill youtubers generating insane view on just this simple dispute Why 32gb not future proofing How beautiful and fast the swap is and yada yada how cool is unified memory 16gb unified memory is like 500gb non unified memory Imagine this- Ram cannot be upgraded ever Hdd cannot be upgraded ever File sizes are increasing by the day Need for RAM increasing by the day for most users the pro itself is an overkill So if you are going for the overkill, then better overkill with style! If you spending $2699 for a laptop, which you plan to keep for next 5-7 years you cant decide if you want to spend $400 more for more ram? Thats just ~14pc more (400 plus taxes) Typically You spend >50 bucks on a date night ~Spend >50 if ordering food from outside ~400 for a short vacay Double it all if you have a partner ~100 on monthly car insurance ~300 on monthly car payments But no, we want a debate on $400 after spending $2700.. Get 32GB Minimum… period!

Thanks bro im a software engineer and 16gb mac mini is perfect i dont think i need 32-64gb im thinking about getting base 14in m1 pro w 1TB

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

That’s good for you.

@redpillsatori3020

2 жыл бұрын

Do you use Docker?

@kingvisu

6 ай бұрын

@@redpillsatori3020 I do use docker and 16Gb is sufficient. Please be mindful about the resource allocation to docker

I’m a freshman majoring in computer science and idk if I should get the 16gb or the 32gb also 512gb or 1TB for the long run

@mmhcreates

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about ram either. But 1tb is recommended it's faster than the 512gb.

I can predict that whatever you buy today will be slower and less robust than what you can during the next technology refresh. Programs are bigger, data files are larger, and new applications are being created all of the time that operate better (as a general rule) with newer technology. HOWEVER, with limited resources, sometimes you have to plan for the future today to make sure you have the right capability. Since RAM can not be upgraded, special thought must be given to this feature. Over the past 5-10 years the amount of RAM that systems have been using is steadily increasing. Whether a PC or Mac based system, having more RAM is one of the single biggest impacts to make a system faster. I would advocate that if someone is on the fence about the need for 32GB of RAM they should do it and move on. You will need more RAM with your applications over the lifetime of the unit. Most companies have a set lifetime of usage planned for a laptop computer. If the lifetime is 5 years, get the 32GB RAM system. If the life time planned is 2-3 yrs, maybe the 16GB might be OK. The leader has spoken.

@hottroddinn

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly explained!!

I totally disagree with this statement "do not compare these 16GB Macbooks with other 16GB machines". When you run a VM and you assign it say 8GB of RAM, the VM does not care whatsoever what magic RAM you got there. It just wants the 8GB RAM, fast or slow doesn't matter. So yes, RAM quantity does matter no matter what these clowns keep telling you. For any heavy multitasker its an easy recommendation to go with 32GB of RAM. 16GB is for those who mostly do 1 heavy task at a time. If you want to do more, definitely get 32GB of RAM. Max chip only helps with graphics related tasks, so for many users it won't matter since the CPU is the same on both Pro and Max.

Thank you for your video. Unfortunately I think I over purchased. I’m currently working on a 2012 MacBook Pro with an Intel chip I seven and 16 GB of RAM. This computer has served me well but over the last two years it has become very difficult to use. I do not do much video editing just a very small amount for personal use I primarily have seven or eight tabs open at a time and I’m doing zoom calls and I have spreadsheets open and I have a contact management system called Hubspot open. Because I keep my computers for so long my thought was I needed to buy a top-of-the-line new MacBook because Apple will not let me upgrade ram later so I bought the 64 GB of RAM now after hearing your video I’m thinking this was way too much. However the only reason I might be right is I don’t know what my needs will be in five years or six years and I may need the ram then. It is really a shame the Apple will not let you upgrade or switch out an SSD drive or upgrade ram later. I can’t return the computer now it’s been over a month that I haven’t even hooked it up yet I just have been busy and I have been not feeling well. Anyway thank you for your video

@adre8975

2 жыл бұрын

Mind if I know how much internal ssd space you bought?

8gb Macbook Air is really good? No sir, I have doubt on you right after this :-s I've been struggled with 8gb M1, very laggy even with very normal usage like browsing web while running Office apps and chat apps (Telegram, Viber...).

Macbook pro M1 pro 32gb ram 512 ssd VS macbook pro M2 pro 16gb ram 512 ssd Both are for same price right now Which one to buy ? I use Logic pro alot and wanna upgrade Please let me know

@ProgramHubNet

Жыл бұрын

Macbook pro M1 pro 32gb ram 512 ssd, because M2 Pro has a max of 15-20% performance boost which is not enough to make an option over 32GB RAM in M1 Pro. So I would recommend you to go with M1 Pro 32GB 512GB.👍

7 months later and this video remains helpful. I went with 32GB RAM 512GB SSD

@httv8677

Жыл бұрын

8-core CPU?

Video is great but it is halted by "bad audio" it is better than most setups but with some adjustments and mabye a shotgun or lavialer mic will help otherwise great video. Noise gate if on is also very aggressive. makes you sound slightly like a robot.

I am a programmer and i bought base variant of MBA which is 8GB ram variant with 256Gb space. I feel it is more than enough for me to work even with base variant and not feel like going for 16gn ram variant.

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly that’s enough for most programmers. Congratulations on your new laptop.

I say 65GB. :D

Thanks for the nice video, Currently I am using M1 Air, 2020 model, with 8GB and 255GB and I am about to purchase M1 Pro, 14" variant with 1Tb storage and 32 GB of RAM, for storage I am very much clear that, 1 TB should be there, but about RAM after watching the video still not able to make decision. Please help, tasks i want to perform on daily basis because in current Macbook Air, some heavy flutter projects took lot of time to compile, and after while compilation it consume all the resourses and sometime laptop lags in switching tabs and other tasks, so that time I feel I need a better machine, 1. Android/iOs/ Flutter Development (Primary task) 2. Video Editing basic level So i need to go with 32GB or not, because the difference is 500$ but if after purchase it will create trouble then it will cost a lost ,because i will regret always. Please help..

@ProgramHubNet

2 жыл бұрын

32GB would be recommended for you.

@thefamousflops9620

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProgramHubNet Thanks a lot...

16" MacBook M1 Pro with 32Gb is the best option to pick, those are the facts

@ClevelandTerry

2 жыл бұрын

there is absolutely no "fact" in your statement. It all depends on the person buying it and their needs.

@user-xm6ro1ep5d

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClevelandTerry There is, but Facts aren’t for everyone Terry