Dang it Patrick. I’ve wanted one for years now. Coming in next week. Thank you for your time and help in countless situations. You are a mentor! Much respect!!!

@kodylloyd5495

Жыл бұрын

Got her in, and upgraded to steel carabiners. Double fisherman’s knot to rope with TDS; along with glue adhesive shrink tube to keep tail clean. Bolted in other side with lock tight 👍 solid!

I always wondered how much a Maasdam could take. Nice experiment. I use mine all the time. They work even better when you lube the axle the wheel turns on.

Your videos are honestly a blessing. Some of the best educational videos in the industry. I use your videos in my curriculum for other guys often.

@TreeMuggs_PatrickM

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it - Patrick

Big fan of my maasdam. Never would have bought it without your videos from years ago. Thanks for doing what you do. Stay healthy and strong 💪

Around 1975 I bought the Maasdam 1500 lb cable puller. It has seen much use over the past 45 years and should be retired, but it still comes in handy for some jobs. I also bought the rope puller a couple of years ago, and I don't weigh enough to over load it..

I’m surprised the rope didn’t slip before the arm twisted from overload. Thanks for yet another great recorded experiment and for sharing it with others.

@johnossendorf9979

7 ай бұрын

The handle is designed to fail before any of the other parts including the rope. That is as long as all the parts including the rope are in good condition and the proper rope is used. I have one with 100 feet of rope. It's great to be able to pull from approximately 98 feet with out resetting !

Nice of you to trash yours so we don't trash ours. Thanks, Patrick.

Hey Patrick. I first saw the Maasdam in one of your videos three or four years ago. I bought one then and have loved it ever since. The one upgrade I made was to buy a longer 3-strand rope for it. Nice video. Thank you for taking the time!

Awesome vid Patrick. I am constantly amazed by the pulling power of the Maasdam and I very rarely leave home without it...

I dyno'd my Maasdam a couple years ago but stopped at 1500 lbs. Beyond that I could feel the handle starting to bend and knew that if I damaged the handle I could never back it down. You proved that! I wouldn't fear rope breakage, as that Dacron rope is rated at 1500# WLL at a 5:1 safety factor. Looked like those carabiners you used were the weak link. I used screw pin bow shackles for my connections. Did the same test with a TU-17 Griphoist. More capable but also more heavy....... Love the Maasdam!

Great video and this puller is light,inexpensive, and time tested. I personally have used one for years great for falling trees. But it is a real lifesaver out on my trapline never go out on skidoo or quad without it. Being alone this little rigged has saved me from a long walk many times when I got stuck on a hill or fell through the ice or muskeg.

Patrick, this is literally my favorite video you have ever done (and I have loved many). As a 27 year old who is 5 years deep, but looking ahead to the next 30, I have an absolute craving for data, and there is just so little objective data out there in easy to consume bites. To that point, even 1 test like this with lbf measurement means more to me than 100 anecdotes. One big thing I want to start getting real data on is the weight that limbs of a specific diameter and angle and species can hold. Do you have ideas for going about this? I know there are many many many more factors (angle of rope of person climbing, lanyard placement, etc), but even if we could work toward some good data on one species that would be sooo helpful. I think I’m also expressing just general interest in weight and force measurement tools that you could reference me to. I’d like to contribute to some good tests over the next decades.

Portable Winch Co PCW4000 portable winch is what I use.. 46fpm pull rate and 2200lb single line pull, way better if you got the money and are gonna be doing a lot of pulling

It’s a great device - have the webbing version for pulling over trees, always works well, never run out of pull yet. For such a handy sized piece of kit that fits in a bag it’s a great purchase. Take care 👍🏾

After watching an earlier video of yours, I purchased the Maasdam puller along with 200 feet of three strand rope. I cut approximately 25 feet off the rope and put an eye in it for a sliding up the main rope to advance the rope for longer pulls. What a great idea. Thanks!

@mrmichael555

11 ай бұрын

I tried finding the video you’re talking about so I could learn too. Can you help me find it?

@DavidBoschGR

11 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHlqr8ymcq3RYpM.html@@mrmichael555

Thank you for doing this test. I appreciate you taking the chance with your puller, and all the good information that you do. Now because of this video, I will be careful with mine.

Thanks, for another informative video. So glad you take the time.

Very cool! The earlier Maasadam puller video is what prompted me to find and then subscribe to your channel. Keep up the good work!

Look up the “more power puller” We use several Maasdam pullers together when we have a heavy leaner. Each 1500lb pull adds up to a lot of leverage

I always wonder...now I know. Thanks Patrick!

@Pat, great one. 👍 It will do alot more work for us then we'd probably guess. 😎✌️

Would be interested to see how this compares to the cmi rope jack! Great video!

Great demo. Now we know why Maasdam says no more than 1500 lb. Gotta say, I've used mechanical advantage pulleys with the Maasdam when Maasdam alone couldn't do job, but never considered using my whole body weight on the handle like you did. So likely my Maasdam has likely never seen close to 1500 lb, let alone the tension you demonstrated. Great work.

Thank you for testing this to its limit!

Thank you for the metric notation.

I think the Ironton 1-Ton Rope Puller would stand the test. It has two gears on both sides of the drum.

The best thing to get is a come along that the linemen use. Those things are beefy

@B_Van_Glorious

Жыл бұрын

Even those can be over loaded. Ask me how I know 😂 I ask way too much of my equipment, as a matter of course. Right before the pandemic I dropped 125 120' Doug firs on my property. Pandemic hits, money becomes mysterious, so I decide not to rent an excavator or stump grinder and I just start digging all the stumps out. I had a 6ft pry bar, a 6ton chain fall (which ultimately snapped at tension - that was scary), an 8ton engine hoist (which also broke ) a farm jack (you betcha doncha know, bent to every kind of fucked) a 1ft and 3ft crow bar, hatchet, axe, sledge, a bucket of almost destroyed, one run left chainsaw chains and a Frankensteined ms170.5 that was given to me busted. And a handful of 1-4 ton come alongs. Ultimately, I just got tired of digging after 2 years and the last of the trees that I wanted out, I set the comealongs at the end of a 200ft 5/8" steel cable with enough snatch blocks and block and tackles to give me 45-1 mechanical advantage. And then I used a pair of comealongs attached but anchored off two different trees, so one could hold tension while the other was reset. Pulled the trees right out if the ground, stump and all, with about 30min of ratcheting. Waaaaay faster than digging. I don't advise it tho. I can fell within 5 degrees of target, consistently and reliably but best I can do with this is prob about 15°-20° (because unless you air spade the ground you're gonna be guessing which roots are holding how much weight, which isn't something I think any if us are accustomed too) and that's a huuuuuge difference.

@samuelluria4744

Жыл бұрын

@@B_Van_Glorious - 5/8" steel cable? I call bullshit.

@B_Van_Glorious

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelluria4744 I got it on a slow day at a local flea market. This is the kind of place that goes around buying storage units and hitting every estate sale they can. Tons of weird random shit. Main guy had left for lunch and his extremely-annoyed-to-be-left-there, doesnt-do-this-for-a-living girlfriend was the only one beside my wife and I there. Didn't know what to charge me. What else did I get...i remember a I had a handful of yardtools; a peavey, pickaroon, double bit, plus a few others and she wanted $50 for the lot, which is a helluva pick right there, on the way out I asked about something...I don't even remember what, I think an old lever style railroad cart (which wasn't for sale) but about 10 ft from it was the cable wound up on itself with grass growing around it. I said, 'this looks like it's been here a while. How much for this?' as I pulled it out from under the grass. She sighed and said, "I have no idea.." and I just quipped before she finished saying idea "$20?" "Sold". I loaded up fast as fuck and booked it, in case old man came back. That was a good ass day. Ive used the fuck out of that cable. Love it.

Thank you for doing this test!

Enjoyed the video. Very good test of the maasdam rope puller. I often wondered how much the Maasdam can be loaded. I rarely put too much of a load on mine. I use just enough pull to direct a spar in direction of fall. Maybe a little more if spar lean not in my favor. Thanks for the test.

That's an impressive overload capability. Absent using a loading cell as you did, are there any clues to avoid bending the handle other than not using an extension. I sometimes don't know my own strength. 😢 . Is the handle replacement a big deal.

Every time I use mine the puller has tons of rotational force that makes the puller spin around several times as soon as I let go of the handle...How do you prevent the puller from rotating around the rope?

Pair it with a 5 to 1. Now u got power!

@duck-n-cover477

Жыл бұрын

Maasdam user manual states not to combine the Maasdam puller with other mechanical advantage.

Well that's crazy I never thought it would go that high

Great video! I was trying to decide which rope puller to buy to aid in felling two large oaks that lean toward my house. After a bit of research I was considering a Maasdam and came across this video. You've convinced me it would be a good choice. I'm ordering one now. Thank you for creating and posting this video. Can you please tell me the name of the carabiners you are using? Thanks.

I like the Maasdam so much that I have two!

Would be great to see a side by side comparison to the wyeth scott more power puller.

@TreeMuggs_PatrickM

3 ай бұрын

The Wyeth Scott is far better and costs a whole lot more...

@jerseyjim9092

3 ай бұрын

​@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM I've considered getting 2 of these instead. May be more versatile.

Wyeth-Scott 3-ton Come-Along is the way to go.

Where can a i find it

Never, ever step over a tensioned line unless one wants to loose one's balls.

Hi, can this redirect a fallen tree to a different direction?

Precio...gracias

Now what if you send that thru a pulley?

What carabiners do you use on/with your Masdam?

Thanks Patrick - I've always wondered what I could pull with mine. For comparison, may I ask what you weigh?

@TreeMuggs_PatrickM

Жыл бұрын

170 lb

@jonathanwebb4404

Жыл бұрын

​@@TreeMuggs_PatrickMThank you

Yay science!

Is there a specific rope that I need for this device? I’m noticing that the 11mm climbing rope is slipping in the puller

@TreeMuggs_PatrickM

10 ай бұрын

Yes, it has to be half inch (13 mm) soft-lay 3-strand. I like Samson Pro-Master

Very interesting test! I’m curious which pulls more a 5 to 1 or a Maasdam come along rope puller and if you used a Maasdam with pulleys if the Maasdam can handle the forces exerted on it from combining it with pulleys or not.

@TreeMuggs_PatrickM

Жыл бұрын

I can only get 400-500 lb with a 5 to 1 by myself. I think the Maasdam would be fine on a 2:1.

@duck-n-cover477

Жыл бұрын

Maasdam user manual states not to combine the Maasdam puller with other mechanical advantage systems.

@duck-n-cover477

Жыл бұрын

​@@TreeMuggs_PatrickMgreat video and not arguing with practical experience in the field, understanding that can deviate somewhat and sometimes from technically precise and ideal parameters underlying the Maasdam user manual. Damn fine puller though. Your videos have helped me get more out of my Maasdam, by using a prusik on a separate line etc. Thanks!

@Chevron.Muskoka

Жыл бұрын

​@@duck-n-cover477many statements are lawyer'd up and not made from a ln engineering or practical standpoint

Good intentions with doing the test, but I think you're lucky you didn't get injured if one of the components failed and released the stored energy towards you.

Bro, I kept yelling at the screen, "PUT YOUR FACE MASK DOWN!!!!!!"

Little more than I thought 1650

Mine would have slipped long before that

I do line clearance in WV, and we trash one of these pos every month it seems.

The more power puller is heavier but much stronger, 👍💪🪓🌲🇮🇪

@travisgilbert8416

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I've pulled over some 36" wide Oaks with heavy back lean with the Amsteel Rope version of the More Power Puller...nice product!

@TheToolnut

Жыл бұрын

@@travisgilbert8416 Bomb proof, 💪😁🪓🌲🇮🇪

@jerseyjim9092

3 ай бұрын

That's why I wonder why the maasdam seems to be the preferred one for tree work. Rarely see the more power used.

@TheToolnut

3 ай бұрын

@@jerseyjim9092 The maasdam is lighter but not as well engineered as the M.P.P.