note: if you buy this (like i did) and up the TDP to 15watts, expect major thermal throttling. The very small fan / heatsink combo isn't enough to cool the CPU, reaching 95C under heavy loads. The fan on the CPU is not PWM, and there currently is no way to control the fan even within the BIOS to help with temps. (*update*) It works with an m.2 oculink for external GPU with nvme m.2

I just got a new Chromebook with an N200 and 8gb of DDR5 ram for $80 on Amazon. It's really speedy and handles everything amazingly. I'm basically going to plug it in to an external monitor since the screen isn't great and use it as a mini PC.

@rafi6618

2 ай бұрын

can you give me the product link?

@matthewrichardson2533

2 ай бұрын

@@rafi6618 it seems links might be getting taken down but it was from Amazon. Every now and then a product will get taken back (be open box) and they'll mark it down 50%

@brandonellis9239

2 ай бұрын

also curious what the name is

@matthewrichardson2533

2 ай бұрын

@@brandonellis9239 yea it's HP Chromebook 15.6 look for the 2023 model that mas DDR5 Ram and the n200 or N303. sometimes there's used like new for less than $100. That just means Open Box. Mine even came sealed in the original box.

@dlewis9760

2 ай бұрын

I'm also interested. I have Lenovo Yogo C13 with pen + touch screen that Lenovo wanted to be gone. Suggested retail was about 550 and they were dumping them for 150. I like it. For 80 bucks I'd be willing to get another.

Time to test it with the M.2 to PCIE and Occulink adapters. :D The older M6 only had one NVME slot and SATA, whereas both are NVME on this version. The older model also had the slower DDR4 memory running in single-channel, but this is using DDR5.

@Neopulse00

Ай бұрын

On the Amazon page, it looks like it is still NVMe & NVMe SATA if you click the link under this video. The last picture it shows the underside.

It just keeps getting better and better.

@ark66

Ай бұрын

its getting smaller and smaller

ETA Prime makes a minipc video. Comments complain about how they all seem the same. Occasionally, posts one that is different and improved. Comments bitch about the price. Rinse and repeat.

@xeminie

2 ай бұрын

fr npcs 😭

@Micromation

2 ай бұрын

Well, price is what's gonna make or break the device. I personally don't feel Intel N-CPU based device is worth anything north of 120. I've tested them and they're just bad and lack I/O. The problem with this costing 180+ is that for 212 I can get i5-1340P (4p cores, 8e cores, 16 threads) WITH Thunderbolt 4 and I/O that isn't abysmal or Ryzen 7 8845HS with full USB4 support for an extra 100 on top of that. I use one of these N100 miniPCs with Ubuntu instead of Windows and it's sole purpose is acting as Moonlight/Parsec/Steam Link client attached to TV in living room but it also cost me HALF the price of this one... 180 is simply questionable asking price for what essentially is a very basic PC. N100 has it's place, I am not sure it is at the top of 200 bracket though.

@Capt.Pikles

Ай бұрын

@@Micromationexactly that. Price is a big issue when you can get better performing, more customizable devices for less.

Thank you for the comprehensive review. Would you recommend to use this as an office pc replacement? Up to 12 working hr, MS Office, Internet. Thanks

This would me a great replacement for one of those All-In-One 'built into the monitor' Dell-like systems that folks use for home management, TELNETTing into work and light gaming

Great video would you recommend this PC for video editing and or music production?

Those Intel N chips look like their providing pretty good value.

Perfect for Batocera emulation console for the living room

Technology impresses more and more everyday… great vid. I’m hoping to see the very first mini pc that can do 90% or all. I believe we’re close. I travel for boxing so I’m waiting for that one killer mini pc to come out💯💯🔥🔥

this is really a good option for HTPC. I'm considering this as Nvidia shield tv replacement. I really liked the formfactor as well as the I/O ports that are given.

design-wise, this looks nice as 'prebuilt' SBC. Maybe add IR receiver at the USB port and turn it into webOS OSE/Android TV box

@user-qu7et7ny1j

Ай бұрын

That's a pricey TV box bro lol

2:11 Just a quick peak at that cooling system would make me faint of joy.

I use one of these as a Jellyfin server for flights and media centre for hotel TVs. It's got 6tb in it and works great for 5 people streaming to tablets from the built-in wifi... You're not limited to 4tb.

@dogboy0912

2 ай бұрын

That sounds awesome. Any resources / tips for setting up a similar device? Shortcomings? Things you'd do different?

@erock1984

2 ай бұрын

Same, I put 2 4tb Curcial P3 nVME drives in the one i have. Plex, Jellyfin, and Crafty Controller for a basic minecraft server for the kids. Runs like a champ.

@AndySomething

2 ай бұрын

Nice! I've got a Dell Optiplex Micro as my home media server rn. But I'll definitely look into one of these for my next build. Love how portable it is.

@cohan88

2 ай бұрын

​@@dogboy0912 only been running it for 3 weeks... No issues yet. I tried casaOS first, but ended up going back to Ubuntu desktop so I could use it as a media centre. Very straightforward, basic setup.

It'd be so cool to get something like this with a Nvidia/AMD iGPU.

@Flyingboots1

2 ай бұрын

They're all over Amazon, I got one with a 6800H Ryzen CPU for just over $300

Hi @ETA PRIME, Thanks for the detailed review, I got this miniPC, just wander can it power on with a 20W power DP powerbank? since I don't have a powerbank for testing Thanks

If that usbC was usb4/TB4, i probably would have considered it. The lack of USB4 is an absolute deal breaker, which is a shame since the size and other stuff is almost perfect. Of course, if those 2x NVME slots are Gen4x4 each, i could always use an occulink adapter.

So if this has super easily accessible NVME... external GPU-able? Can you power it with a power bank? It would be interesting to carry this around and use an AR glass for monitor, then be able to plug it in when you get home.

36W 12V supply? If it runs on 12V, that's the same as - ham radio gear. Most mobile hams use laptops, but have a 12V supply for their radio. Throw in a portable display, and Bluetooth keyboard, and you have a highly portable system. If anything, the design could be wider. The width of a 60% keyboard (or 75% version) could provide more cooling, without sacrificing desktop space.

Another good mini PC!

How does it perform as a media player? Can it do HDR in 4K at 60 fps? How about Jellyfin playback, or embedded Kodi box?

I have the Chuwi Minibook X 10" with the Intel N100. My gaming requirements aren't high, and most of the time I play older fps, fighting games, and older racing games, and emulation, and this laptop is awesome and really best bang for the money. I was planning to get one of those 8" laptops with N100, but now just finding out about this N200, I'm gonna have to wait for it to go out on the 8" laptop form factor, and might actually also wait for the 10" one.

I'd love to see that paired with a Egpu.

Super Cool

You know what I’d love? A zimaboard v2 with a n100 or even better the n200 with active cooling, that would increase the server capabilities by a lot imo considering the performance jump from their current what is it celeron n3450 which is a very aged cpu at this point

Hey How does this model compare to the Beelink Series 5 Max? I recently Purchased a Beelink Seies 5 Max.

You can get similarly designed/specced Intel N100 PC for about $150. My question is whether or not the $70 price hike for an N200 CPU is worth it for general use and light gaming. Probably not but I’d be curious of what others think.

@Giuseppe-cd3jc

2 ай бұрын

Not worth it IMHO, my Beelink Ryzen 7 5800H and 6800H Mini PCs which can be found for as little as $300 and $350 runs circles around N100 and N200 mini PC's. These AMD little monsters are 8 core 16 threads CPU's, Hyperthreading, Up to 64GB of RAM and support dual channel. Vega 8 also is 3 times faster than N100/N200 iGPU. The only thing Ryzen 7 CPU's mentioned above lack is AV1 decode codec support which N100/N200/N300 CPU's do. I have a Beelink Mini PC, Mini S12 Pro(N100) to compare to.

@TheNinjaMarmot

2 ай бұрын

@@Giuseppe-cd3jc Different use cases. The 5800H has 45W TDP while the N100 has 5W TDP. Massive difference when you're doing basic surfing and server stuff 24/7. The Ryzen would be overkill, unless you are in need of a powerful server.

@dogboy0912

2 ай бұрын

@@Giuseppe-cd3jc Twice the price, I would hope so...

@stalbaum

2 ай бұрын

Unless 6 watts is a feature for you - and it would be for say, digital signage, RV life, etc - the price/performance ratio is better elsewhere! But as a dedicated ipfs server, TrueNAS or open media vault server? The n100 version is compelling!

@sbme1147

Ай бұрын

On Am you can get the MSI Cubi 12th Gen i3 for $259. It was $220 for a few weeks a month ago and has a 2.5G, 1G LAN ports. I wish I would have gotten it now. Now around $260 I’m thinking of getting the MinisForum MS-01 12th Gen i5 model or more likely build my own SFF or maybe a better one a little bit at a time over 2-4 months or so.

Is it possible to use an OcuLink adapter on the 2nd SSD slot?

I like these devices

Is this some kind of lite version of windows 11 or the full version?

What was power consumption if you didn’t up the wattage

Could you dual-boot Linux on a second nvme ssd?

If your going to buy this definitely look for nvme heatsinks that will fit especially if you run 2! This bad boy gets HOTTTT

Do you have blog article, or step by step guide, about, the modification of Watts in the BIOS...? And what the maximum Watts? Send the Documentation URL you learn this...?

@resfan000

2 ай бұрын

Figure it out you think this guy will reply to you

Yes! New Vegas!

I think this PC would be really good for TV, it's much better than android box with it's performance, and storage. even better because it's using windows so you can do anything more than just for multimedia

Is the ram upgradeable?

At 15W TDP does it outperform an N95 with lpddr5? I understand there are more CUs in the GPU, I mean generally. Thanks 🙂

@PsiQ

Ай бұрын

no, it overheats and throttles hard if you use it at 15W in that version/case/cooler config.

The n200 isn't to bad for basic use or for a nas or something like that.. i still would rather see it with the u300 CPU as its about the same power draw or a bit less (its meant for ultra low power consumption laptops) but its way better than any n100 or n200 4 core 4 thread CPU.. the u300 has 13th generation 1x P core and 2 threads and 4x E core's and 4 threads (so it's a 5 core 6 thread CPU) has exactly the same iGPU, DDR5 memory PCI express 5 support biggest L1 cache and L2 cache.. its to much to list here obviously but the u300 is just way better for the same price and the same power draw as the N200 and can be even lower power if needed and still perform better than the N series CPU's.

Watching this one my laggy Jasper Lake N5105 . Intel do need to fix up their low power CPUs. It's not terrible but it's not for that good for Windows.. I'll be turning this into a retro gamebox. Hopefully this N200 has some ummpfh

Need help understanding..why only 2) 2 tb vs 1) 4 tb or 2) 4 tb ect? Whats the bottle neck/ restrictions

I don't want Windows Spyleven. Can I have it with Windows 2K or 7 installed on it?

Am been tempted to get a mini pc , I use Linux now because my computer is almost 14 years old however I have been wondering is there anything way to use android os on these mini pcs or I have to get a chrome book

@ajg71sg81

Ай бұрын

Use Linux. Should work try with a live USB install with your preferred distro first to test.

@pimplefacedprick2595

Ай бұрын

You can run bluestacks /Android Emu

It's so cheap and comes with 2 M.2 slots. Add a AS1166 card in one of the slots and you can have a fairly powerful yet low powered NAS.

Can you test out more emulation and gaming

Ok, that's a great computer for that price.

Is the RAM upgradeable?

So does it run GTA5 720p/900p 60fps?

how does this handle havec x265 8bit and 10bit video playback?

All Alder Lake-N CPUs unfortunately only support single channel memory, thus none of them will have decent iGPU performance. Imagine how awesome these CPUs would be if they would support dual channel... Also this thing seems nice, but what were they thinking about no USB-C data connection with power? Lots of monitors these days have USB-C with PD and KVM, so you would only need to connect one USB-C cable and have power, display, USB... well, not with this one. Bummer.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

Lunar Lake will go down to 7-9W allegedly, and replaces the 24EU XeLPG GPU with 4-8 Battlemage Xe cores. They are all dual-channel at 8000+ mt/s and Intel specs a minimum of 16GB ram.

How about the pocket size gaming pc?

is this enough for vanilla minecraft server?

This and oculink via M.2??

Could you pls let me know or video if this device can power by using power bank. Thank you

@phishwak

2 ай бұрын

He said in the video it could be run from a PD power bank. As the highest power used was 19W you could probably get away with a 20W PD power bank but the original power supply is 36W so anything above 30W should be fine.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

One designed to charge a laptop would handle it just fine. Most of them can kick out 30-45W.

@seiha2411

Ай бұрын

​@@phishwak thank you for helping, can we install MS office to this device since I have not seen him mention or show if we can use word or excel. Thank you in advance

@phishwak

Ай бұрын

@@seiha2411 It comes with Windows 11 as standard so yes you can install MS Office

Different between n100 and n200 is CPU frequency. N200 its little bit faster 3.7Ghz vs n100 3,4Ghz Recoendet to put L1 to 15W and L2 to 25W, can go to 30 Watts but It's too hot 25W is a perfect point. Intel N100: Uses Intel UHD Graphics with 24 execution units and a maximum dynamic frequency of 750 MHz Intel N200: Uses Intel UHD Graphics with 32 execution units and a maximum dynamic frequency of 750 MHz Morefine listen! Make a n300 8/8 core with good fan that can cooling ( make device bigger if is needed ) 16GB RAM and 32 Variants please and some good Intel IRIS graphics not UHD please.

Can I get the KZread link of the 4k video that you were playing

I wish we still used the term "microcomputer".

Missing Spec for this version at the start (comes later): Price starts at 220 - 240 bucks

Lol, hook up an egpu with that extra nvme slot! I would like to see a rtx 3060 ti with it.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

They're both x2 links, so not a great amount of bandwidth there. Even so, I would love to see how fast the little E-cores can go when a big GPU is able to take some load off the iGPU.

I wonder how would perform with Linux

What's the best mini PC you can buy now?

N100 is a good CPU for office use, but morefine m6 is a very weird platform! I have one with n6000 CPU. Non-controlled noisy fan, SSD overheating, problems with displayport over type-c (only this device have problem with video output to my portable ASUS monitor over type-c). Don't buy it if you have a little more space then the size of the matchbox. I can recommend MSI Cubi N ADL in 0.66l size, cheap and without any problems, from the brand with good reputation.

Probably more to it with FO:NV as the GPU was only at 40 percent usage at 900P chances are the CPU is struggling with DX9.

I’m all for mini PCs (I have a snack collection of them that is growing) but if you can’t add a graphics card then I’m not interested. As it is currently configured I couldn’t see using it as more than an HTPC or maybe a thin client.

if it could come with a 6.7 inch moble phone like screen would be good

The N305 is 8 cores and nearly doubles the GPU clocks. I would be interested to see the difference.

I wonder how it sounds as music server

Can you test wow classic. Game was made in 2006 but you need subscription to acces it .

just under a i5-8350u in performance

@saysbadman

2 ай бұрын

It's pretty even geekbench 6 score with a Haswell 4690.

that seems better than the steamdeck.

Will a external portable graphics card make sense?

@ETAPRIME

2 ай бұрын

Probably not, but we can add one. 😂

How Small can it go?

Anything with Intel is a huge hardpass, I never understood the idea of these tiny boxes, a 12.5 or 13 inch laptop costs usually about the same price and is infinitely more versatile.

Cool 😎 32gb ram would have been better. N100/N200 with a ram slot has been shown by many users to boot up and operate fine with 32gb, even though Intel Ark officially lists 16gb. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

Important to note that Intel Ark just represents the max Intel has validated the chip with. These things should be able to handle whatever you can fit in one sodimm slot, but Intel is allowed to not offer you much help if it's unstable.

I can't wait until these low power, cheap CPUs start coming with Thunderbolt 4 ports and hyper threading (or at least 8e-cores - 2p/4e would do too!). Unfortunately N100/N200/N300 Intel CPUs fall a bit short for me, to the point where I'd rather pay another 100 (Ali prices) and get AMD with USB4.

I tried running starfield at 4k ray tracing max settings and my house burned down....hate when that happens

Odroid H4 Ultra?

Reminds me of the MeLe quieter.

@ayalavalva

21 күн бұрын

More of the MeLe Overclock 4C (aka MeLe Slim). I wonder how they compare in terms of heat dissipation and noise, though.

Anyone remember those like HDMI computer sticks that would plug directly behind the tv similar to how Amazon Fire Stick TV does it? I'm not sure why HDMI sticks died, I guess people would just rather have their PC on sight rather than just behind their TV/monitor?

@davidcounter4866

2 ай бұрын

Overheating, lack of computing power, you name it...We used to have four sticks; they proved a waste of money and we returned to Optiplexes.

How well can these little PC's run 3D software like Blender and 3DS Max?

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

It will run, but you'll be wanting a lot more power for anything beyond super basic stuff.

@vartannazarian3451

2 ай бұрын

You need a higher score in multi for this kind of work. 8000 point is the minimum

Only if they had dual 2.5 nic.

who thought we gonna have pc small like pockets xD

So basically Atari VCS in a less stylish case?

Max # of Memory Channels 1 same as N100

To be fair, i was kinda thinking in about buying one of these after the video. In the US Amazon it costs around 220$, in Germany it will costs 344$. No joke, same product just different country... But i would like to know something about the pc in the video. In the German amazon reviews there is a post that no matter what hes doing a person gets his NVME after 10 minutes Idle to about 80°C / 176°F Is the cooling so god damn bad on this? He wrote that he also had a replacement device already and tried 4 different NVME´s. IF this would be the case then this would be a clear NVME killer over time when it goes to emulating^^´

A 4K gaming powerhouse.

@polarvortex6601

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@unknown183

2 ай бұрын

@@polarvortex6601 Gotta love ETA's clickbait titles.

Processor? AMD Ryzen?

@skleung6268

Ай бұрын

Intel N200

Did anyone try to run Linux on it? It would be a great entertainment system hooked up to my TV, I'd like to run fedora or debian on it. Did anyone get any problems with it ?

Install batocera on it and show us it’s real emulation power 😊

I just hope ETA Prime never gives up on his channel... Too much good to go away. Simply awesome!!

lol 12:46 Flexing the Plant or the Pot?

Yeah, the N200 is a great CPU if they price it right...... Right now only N100 and the N97 (if you want more "powerful" graphics) that makes sense for their price.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

The N200 is in a weird spot in the lineup. The N100 gets you 90% of the performance and the N300 nearly doubles the multi-core with 8 cores/threads.

@iokwong1871

2 ай бұрын

@@DigitalJedi actually the N300 is weird too, it at comes down to price, N300, N305, and N200 makes no sense for the time being, given how expensive they are. If the pricing is right the N100 would actually be the weird one. Imagine the N200 is only 10-20% more than the N100. I wouldn't even look at the N100. It is just slower , less EU at the same wattage. I mean the N-series of chips can destroy the Pi Market if they did it right.

@DigitalJedi

2 ай бұрын

@@iokwong1871 I think the 8-core i3 variants can kind of make sense. There's enough CPU there to be a legit little windows machine. It's the same thread count as a normal multi-threaded quad-core. iGPU is a little lacking and single-channel RAM isn't great, but I think they have a place next to the likes of the 1315U and 1305U (5-cores 6-threads). If the N200 was somehow a 6C/T unit, which is sadly impossible with how the cores are laid out, I think it would make more sense as a middle-ground in the formerly-Pentium lineup. Agreed that it's all pricing though. I'd love to see one of these with the N305 inside. My little tablet has one and it's a great little media/drawing machine with enough CPU for the occasional light Photoshop and Illustrator work.

Linux?

Can't believe this has better input than most gaming laptop now a days

So basically... Raspberry pi 6 but its a x86 chip? Eh, color me interested.

Plz sir can tell me how can I buy the z trone amd ryzen 5 5500u sbc x86 that you have already make video but you don't tell us how to buy that sbc plz sir I am wait for your reply. Iam watching your video all way frome nepal 🇳🇵 ❤❤❤

More powerfull than a i7 3770.

@keithframe3489

2 ай бұрын

Bro, I'm using 3770. Crazy to think this 6w chip slightly better than 77w chip.

Cyberpunk dude play it on it

try egpu on it