11" is superior this gen. I had both the 12.9 and the 11" last gen. The extra 2" in height creates a weird aspect ratio for viewing content. The 11" is much better suited to watching widescreen videos and is significantly more portable. The 11" is a perfect tablet and the 13" is a mediocre laptop and a bad tablet.

@user-wp3bh3qe9j

Ай бұрын

"The 11" is a perfect tablet and the 13" is a mediocre laptop and a bad tablet." that is such a good sentence!

@user-np7xw7pk2b

Ай бұрын

@@user-wp3bh3qe9jwhat a comment!!

@Perspari

Ай бұрын

Nailed it.

Using an oled iPhone makes me want one on my iPad. My 2018 iPad Pro 11” has served me well. I’m upgrading. I’m also happy can stick with the 11” size

That screen looks absolutely gorgeous.

My all time favourite laptop was the 11 inch Mac air laptop. The screen was large enough and the convenience of a 2 pound device is just charming. I will move to an 11 inch pro with both the keypad and pro penr. Totally awesome...

I’ve had a play with both in the Apple Store and I’m opting for the 13” when I’ve saved up for it. I prefer the larger screen for note taking, content consumption and making/adding to word documents or power points, writing emails, etc

I'm searching for opinions on the M4 iPad Pro and glad that I stumbled upon this video - really insightful and appreciate the opinions. Thanks, Noah! A well deserved like 👍🏼

I love the 11inch size of the iPad because it’s just the right size to work with and watch content especially on travel days. It’s not awkward also when you watch a movie on the plane. And not to bulky when you put it in your bag.

Nice vid Noah, thank you 🙏

Watching this on my Mini 6. I’ll run up to 5 apps on it at a time, and it handles it all flawlessly. And it lets me do it on the move, wherever I am.

The 11’ is the perfect size

@ArthropodSpidey

Ай бұрын

Sadly, most women would agree.

@PeaksW_

Ай бұрын

It’s the bitch size 😂

@TheNetflixNook

Ай бұрын

I finally went the 12.9 route and am about to do some traveling. Looking forward to seeing how that size kind of fits into an airplane seat experience.

@Josemartinez-es6vj

Ай бұрын

said my gf :(

The a ability to drag windows on stage manager between the iPad and an external monitor works in ipadOS 18

I personally still opted for the 13” for the large workspace, the weight difference is helping. And as a woman I don’t mind bringing bigger bags for that

@IsabelleAnn425

Ай бұрын

me too hah :D

Just ordered this with the Apple Pencil pro so excited!!!

I have both the 13in and 11in M4 iPad models and idk why but the 11in feels like it has bigger bezels. It’s probably the difference in size that makes it look that way. But idk for me personally I enjoy using the 13in a bit more whenever I wanna be at home and watch content and do some work. But the 11in is perfect when I’m at work and have to be in the go and observe different departments and take notes. Either way love both and how they fit into my life.

I have the iPad Mini (which I love), and I replaced my 11” with a 12.9” recently, my takeaway is the mini is pretty much a 1 app device, adding a second app is clunky. The 11” is a 2 app device and the 13” is a 3-4 app device but the 4:3 aspect ratio means usable screen size is not much larger for video content consumption than 11” in case you were hoping to use it for movies. I would say the 11” is probably best overall but if you want a secondary/external display for your mac, the 13” is a lot better for that, plus the still excellent miniLED in the last generation sells for 1/3 of the price of the M4 equivalent, that’s a huge price difference.

I absolutely loved this video. I decided to go with the 11” as well. For my travels and days of chemo it fits into my little bellroy pack which is just perfect! And that’s even with the keyboard attached too! Noah, your videos are calming and i appreciate your work.

@katinasoutherland7693

Ай бұрын

Hi! You’re strong enough to kick cancers ass my friend!

@eatthetoast

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m doing my best and doing it well, so far so good!

@gregsvoice5628

Ай бұрын

Best of luck with your treatment.

@IsaacyChelseyOrtiz

Ай бұрын

I hope you get better soon!

@jameskurtzke1350

Ай бұрын

I relied on my iPad when I went thru chemo treatments, too…just focus on getting thru your day a few hours at a time…they will add up…

Nice vid once again. For my next iPad Pro im going to get a 2TB model as I’ve decided to get a Mac mini again for my next Mac, as I barely ever move my MacBook Pro (and the iPad Pro has the power to do all the portable stuff I need

I recently bought the 13" M4 Nano for drawing and I'm struggling with the size of it. I use it in hand, rather than on a desk and it’s very cumbersome. I'm tempted to swap it for the 11". The nano screen is sublime btw.

I went with the 11" 256GB base model. The M4 chip will be utilized more in the future with the forthcoming Apple Intelligence stuff. I use Stage Manager when docked at home with an external monitor; otherwise the standard multitasking is fine for me.

Always great videos.🍉

Previously i considered 12.9 too heavy so changed for 11 . But this M4 13 inch version is much more comfortable to hold and carry.

@-The-Golden-God-

19 күн бұрын

I find the 13" to be quite a pain to hold and draw on

Well you talked me off the 13 inch 1 tb ledge😮‍💨😅 your right I just need the base and I’ll be turbo happy 😃 love your channel thanks man!! ❤

I tried both the 11" and the 13" a ton and decided on the 13. I much prefer the larger keyboard it felt more natural and easier to type with. The speakers are dramatically better and louder on the 13 as well. Pair this with more screen space and more immersive entertainment I couldn't downsize to the smaller version. If I were carrying the tablet around more I would be more inclined to go with the small Pro but its either in my bag or at my house. Both are incredible devices and can't go wrong. Great video thanks for uploading

@PSy84

Ай бұрын

just get iPad mini 6 as companion to 13"

first time viewer, nice work man!

I just got a pretty much max tier ipad pro 11 from 2022 with the m2, 1TB of storage and 16GB of ram and cellular connections for about 1000€. I am super happy with it. i use it for taking notes in school and connect to our server at work with MS RD-Client. I just love the OS, even tho i know its limited and holding the hardware back.

That screen looks so good.

YOU CAME BACK TO THE 11 INCH SIZE

@NoahHerman

Ай бұрын

YES I DID

I wanted a pro iPad mini, but I don't think that will happen in the next 5 years. Since I already have a 2018 iPad Pro, Magic Keyboard, and Apple Pencil, I'll go with the 11-inch iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, and a MOFT Folio Float Case for cost efficiency. This setup will serve as my "iPad mini" for jotting down notes and consuming media. Even though it's an 11-inch iPad Pro, it's lighter now and works perfectly for my needs.

watching your vid after some time and that beard game is fly

My Ipad Pro just downloaded to 17.6. I assume that Apple will let me know when I can install IOS 18?

Great video. Have you found the keyboard is glitchy in the KZread app? I find the space bar/arrow keys stop working intermittently when trying to pause/skip video

I'm still using the 2020 iPad Air and apart from a better screen, I don't really see any other reason to buy the latest 11" Pro.

@fapstronaut3671

Ай бұрын

The only think that I like more about the m4 iscthe screen but the price is crazy

@39lucas

Ай бұрын

I use that iPad and I have issues with temporary screen burn in, where I could be on an app like Goodnotes, and the lines from the template will stay on the screen when I leave the app or playing games and certain icons stay and the only way to get it gone is by powering it off. Do you have any display issues?

@Hypnobreast

Ай бұрын

Don’t say that, else Apple will send out an ‘update’ to render your iPad useless

@michaelferguson364

Ай бұрын

I’m using a 2020 iPad Pro and there no reason for me to upgrade, because all I do is watch KZread and respond to work email on outlook 😁👍🏾

@Hypnobreast

Ай бұрын

@@michaelferguson364let’s face it, as long as your iPad can accommodate the most up to date iPadOs, most other differences between models are insignificant

Thank you so much for the content you provide us❤

@NoahHerman

Ай бұрын

thank you for watching! ☺️

I’m planning on buying this iPad

Really enjoying the 11. I use it handheld mostly so that’s what helped make up my mind. The OS update is so odd IMO. Why they didn’t include IPhone Mirroring and an iPad mirroring mode, and the iOS mail improvements in this release is a bummer. Maybe we’ll get it in 19.

Nice video! I’m also thinking in going for the 11” (I have the 12.9 right now) Have you tried “more space” on the 11”? Is it usable? For some specific cases I guess

@ekbordinkhueakaew6740

Ай бұрын

Can I ask the reason that you need to going to 11 inch? Why not 13 inch?

@salimchain

Ай бұрын

@@ekbordinkhueakaew6740 thanks for asking. I've been working on a 12.9 iPad for the last 3 years. Making an effort to make it my main device, but iPadOS is not there. I use a lot of webapps and iPad on Safari still not the same as MacOS Safari. So I have to go back to a Macbook Air. But, traveling, moving around, iPadOS is good enough. So 11" is more portable, lighter. 13" + magic keyboard is heavier than a Macbook Air (and bulkier) That's why I'm curious about the "more space" in the 11" for some scenarios where you need more space on a specific app or webapp

I’m still using the iPad Air 2020 and thinking it might be time to upgrade to the 11 inch Pro and keep that for a solid 4-5 years.

I have an 11-inch iPad Pro M1, and I noticed that on the 11-inch iPad Pro M4, although the screen is the same size, it seems Apple has zoomed in on the operating system. Compared side by side, the same apps now have less visible space; the text and icons are larger on the M4. What a waste of space.

They added external drive formatting and a few more features in the new beta.

Is there a way to turn off the button in the bottom left of the keyboard? I’ve tried one at the Apple Store and I kept hitting it, thus switching the selection to emojis. Also, nice beard! It’s been a minute since I’ve check out the channel.

After my GCSEs I’m looking to buy an iPad Pro, and I’m not sure between getting the 13 inch or 11 inch, if I were to get the 11 inch I was wondering if it is worth also getting a monitor so I could use an external keyboard and mouse with the monitor and iPad while at home at my desk, but then I could just use the iPad when I’m at school for example. What do you think? Is there any point also getting a monitor, and should I go 11 inch or 13 inch?

They also added the ability to format external drives in iPadOS 18

In IpadOs you can finally format external sd/hd/on the Ipad.

I constantly hear complaints about iPadOS… but I am missing what specifically people are looking for. What are people looking for Apple to add? I get that there’s MacOS software that doesn’t have an iPadOS counterpart but, unless it is an Apple app, that’s not iPadOS’s fault.

@SaHaRaSquad

11 күн бұрын

Right now the Pro model seems more like a plain premium model, nothing else. It doesn't add any actual capability, just better specs which are meaningless with all the software restrictions. Doubled memory but an app still can't use more than on the 8GB models, so what's the point? 10-core processor but apps can't continue running in the background. When I want to get work done I couldn't care less about OLED or whatever when the software isn't there. Just adding Mac OS' terminal app would instantly make it a full laptop replacement for me, but that would be too powerful and flexible I guess.

Hi!! Great videos!!! I was looking for ipads reviews and found yours about ipad mini. I was really in doubt between ipad pro 11" and ipad mini. Do you have any recommendation to give me, please? The idea is something I could bring with me. I dont need a huge screen. My only concern about the mini is the how long updates will be available since its been 3 years since launching.

bro has the best and the mos useful contetn ever 😀

Your beard is looking hella awesome

@NoahHerman

Ай бұрын

thanks!! gotta shape it a little more though haha

@bartoszskiba5442

Ай бұрын

@@NoahHerman I was just about to say, the beard is such a slay

@AlanMitchellTech

Ай бұрын

@@NoahHermanHow is that iPad running while on iPad OS 18? I tried using the beta on the A12z iPad Pro 12.9 inch that I am writing the comment on, but had to factory reset it because the iPad would try to reboot itself and not turn on.

Man, I see you have a desktop and a laptop! If you add in your phone, where does the iPad fit in? I got rid of mine years ago because it wasn’t getting used.

Is the Magic Keyboard worth the $300? I’m on the fence about it

I like to add movie files on my iPads… I have a 1TB iPad from 2018 12.9 inches… and now use it with my Meta Quest 3 to project the screen to it.. .it works really well with the mouse of the magic keyboard …. with stage manager it works well… my iPad is still going strong… would like a 15 inch iPad in the future and I would buy IMMEDIATELY… and maybe they will give powerful iPads Mac OS… that would be awesome!

I started with the 13 inch downsized to 11 and then ended up just getting both 🎉

@willbuschmann

Ай бұрын

Seems like a waste of money, but sure.

I'm on the m1 ipad pro. Using it for photo editing on Affinity photo and Photomator. Reading comics watch shows and actually writing a novel. I wanna upgrade to the m4 but I'm hesitating. Any recommendations?

@gregsvoice5628

Ай бұрын

Does your current iPad feel slow?

@Roddriley

Ай бұрын

@@gregsvoice5628 nope not at all

I started out the exact opposite as you. I’ve had three 11 inch iPad pros (Magic Keyboards included) starting in 2011 and just purchased the 13 inch iPad Pro. My needs or demands for what I expect from my iPads have changed over the years though. I’m very happy with the 13 inch and it’s larger screen …

Which apps do you use?

Que es mejor con nanotexture la pantalla o pantalla normal con el paperlike?

Try the "More space" option, gives you almost the real estate of 13

Yeah it’s a spectacular piece of technology. Got my M4 11 inch with Pencil Pro and logi combo touch. Funny asf as I got it from eBay and it was imported from Mexico to keep the price low lol

When will macs have tandem oled ?

7:32 You being relatable is one of the many reasons why people watch your content. Keep the bloopers in we love them!

14:13 what is the windows at the bottom, doesn’t look like stage manager. Can you advise?

Using my 11 inch iPad Pro M4 and 13 inch MacBook Air M2 now. These 2 are the best daily drivers.

256 GB is bit tight if you like taking photos with a camera.

Did you move to NYC?

Is the iPad Pro a good substitution for a MacBook air? I just need something for basic things like email, applying for jobs, visiting sites my phone doesn’t do a good of etc.

@clintmiller88

16 күн бұрын

the visiting sites part is what crazy sometimes sites will automatically take you to the app because its a iPad which is frustrating.

What s thé wallpaper ?

Still love 13 inch

After WWDC i decided to go the 12.9 inch M2 IPad Pro. Found an amazing deal at the 11th hour and haven’t stopped using it since. Love it!

Apart from the screen which is the most important part in a tablet after all 😂

Awesome beard and video

the 13 inc is better for me since i do art on it but i get what you mean.

Should I upgrade from 2018 11 iPad Pro to M4 11 iPad Pro 256GB? I’m a light user but want to continue with 120hz. Also do you have the cellular edition and which specs do you have?

@sudiptabiswas9542

Ай бұрын

If you have the budget then go for it ,otherwise the 2018 would still be good enough with a battery replacement

@DanielHarrisCodes

Ай бұрын

You could stick with the 2018 until next year to see if Apple Intelligence is as good as they made out. No way to know until it’s out whether it’s going to be good

@satxrnhimself

Ай бұрын

@@sudiptabiswas9542 Ok, thanks! Also another question for Mac’s: Which are the best specs and size for MacBook Pro for my needs: Photo/video editing for YT channel on Final Cut Pro / adobe Lightroom and Davina resolve, programming JavaScript on vs code app, web browsing, note taking, and watching YT videos and movies, and for university. Planning to keep the MacBook Pro for at least 4-5 years. And use it 90% desktop and 10% taking it outside. I like portability too. Is it worth to trade in my 14 Pro to 16 Pro or 16 Pro Max when they come out, or wait longer to upgrade? I have a regular 14 Pro from February 2023 with 88% battery health after a year and a half and don’t like the battery life and buggy experience (factory reset didn’t help)

@satxrnhimself

Ай бұрын

@@DanielHarrisCodes Ok, thanks! Also: Which are the best specs and size for MacBook Pro for my needs: Photo/video editing for YT channel on Final Cut Pro / adobe Lightroom and Davina resolve, programming JavaScript on vs code app, web browsing, note taking, and watching YT videos and movies, and for university. Planning to keep the MacBook Pro for at least 4-5 years. And use it 90% desktop and 10% taking it outside. I like portability too. Is it worth to trade in my 14 Pro to 16 Pro or 16 Pro Max when they come out, or wait longer to upgrade? I have a regular 14 Pro from February 2023 with 88% battery health after a year and a half and don’t like the battery life and buggy experience (factory reset didn’t help)

@Mista300c

Ай бұрын

If u want the ai features go for it

Total weight? 👍🏻

I had to return mine because of the muddy speakers, when compared with the 2018 iPad Pro.

I really don’t get apple for the battery part because I think everyone would appreciate longer battery life more than a difference in thinness(is that even a word?…). But tbh I don’t wanna complain anymore since I would rather enjoy than regret my most recent purchase oops

Agree re. the 11” iPad vs the larger size being a real sweet-spot and that the M4 iPad Pro 11 is really impressive hw. Sadly iPadOS 18 is a putrid update and so many OS limitations still exist that have been well documented and discussed for years. Also, Apple’s newly announced AI features are all “futures” and will take 1-2 years or more to refine. I could never do work creating new MS Office docs and it’s barely capable of reviewing and editing office docs. In the end it is a communications device for email and iMessage and a media consumption device for reading and viewing.

They way the rumours of Mac OS bated people into buying the iPad Pro M1 + making them hybrid laptops, it’s not worth buying unless you need a new one 😂👀

I wanted the 13in ipad air but thats too much since my laptop is 15in. So im gonna trade in my ipad air 5th gen 11in 64 gb for the 11in ipad air with 128gb. Idk what id do with all the extra storage 😂

Still debating I want smoothness but apple is so restricted, conflicted feelings I want android with apple hardware, on a decent sized screen

Why not the iPad Air if you are using it for casual stuff?

0:11 well yes ipad os 18 is an ipad update as it is supposed to be

Right there with you, started with 11” then the 12”… now maybe back to the 11” the OLED will be most excellent.

I’m going to be a college freshman this year. I do digital art. I’m taking MIS do you think I can use the 11” M4 as my all in one computer device for Art, College work, teams, video calls? I’ve been debating this for a while now before I get the Magic Keyboard for it. Cause I really just want an all in one compact device for all my needs. Edit: Also sick beard!

@NoahHerman

Ай бұрын

aw thanks haha. if it's gonna be your one and only computer... the 13" might be worthwhile!

@michealadebz

Ай бұрын

@@NoahHerman aw dang yea I felt so. Thanks for your input I think I might just get a MacBook m1 air to fall back on/supplement the iPad!

@GPDF

Ай бұрын

I didn't know how to copy the link. Type those words below and watch a 10 min video that can give you an different angle/opnion. Maybe you have the budget and by the most expensive wouldn't be a issue. If you decide to get a macbook, don't settle down for 8 Gb, go for 16 Gb, specially because you going to working with art on your computer. Why People Returned the M4 iPad Pro - What iPad Should Most Really Get?

I got he 11" M4 and I already had the M2 12.9. I noticed the screen was not that much different but the M2 12.9 iPP seemed to have "whiter" whites. The M4 seemed to have a slight tint (TrueTome and Nightshift are both off). I took it to the Apple store and they tested it and said it was fine. Anyone else notice this or is it an OLED thing? Now I'm thinking of returning the M4 11" iPP and getting an M2 11"iPP and saving some money.

bro which watch band did you have on your Apple Watch ultra

I use my iPad way more now that I have the 11”.

ipad with M4 is like having a Ferrari engine inside an old car, IPAD OS for me still very limited, just like a larger iPhone OS.

If the 11” didn’t feel like typing on a kids toy, I could definitely get onboard, but I have man sized hands, and the 11” just isn’t going to cut it. Even the 13” can be a little small for my liking compared to a normal keyboard.

@clintmiller88

16 күн бұрын

you should really just buy a MBA 13 inch and upgrade the ram...

@Greatscott24

16 күн бұрын

@@clintmiller88 I tried that before. I can’t handle going back to that MBA screen after using the mini-LED and OLED Apple products. Maybe if they upgrade those screens in the next batch, though I doubt that will happen due to costs.

Hey Noah, is your 11 M4 iPad Pro overheating while using the pencil?? Mine overheats on the bottom part and towards the right side in landscape while using pencil in oen ntoe/ good notes and while watching youtube videos too!! Anything similar with your device too?

@desit.302

Ай бұрын

I don’t have the newer iPads but my iPad Air 5 also has this same problem. Apple notes, Goodnotes, Notability - as soon as I start using the Pencil, the right side heats up and the battery life takes a dive off the cliff. Other users also have this problem according to other forums. It’s a known problem

@kushal8261

Ай бұрын

@@desit.302 any fixes??

Commitment issues?

@NoahHerman

Ай бұрын

yes lol

Love the Beard! Just have a barber trim it;) it fits you

@NoahHerman

Ай бұрын

haha thanks i'm growing it out 😆 def gotta shape it a lil better tho

I tried your advice before. Took an iPad mini 6 and a 12.9 iPad Pro. I loved my iPad mini. Barely used the 12.9 unless for watching. It really is just for table use. Now I find that having two iPads are a pain because some apps don’t sync across devices as fast if it’s not an apple app. Now I want to just get an iPad Pro 11” and stick to ONE IPAD. Having too many devices too keep track of is also annoying. I have to say though, it’ll be hard to get rid of the iPad mini. It fits in my small purses.

I will check more of your videos, since you tell the truth, m1 is already overkill for most users (and uses). Still wanna buy the m4 because I don't have an Ipad.

❤❤❤

You have small socks, you have a small …iPad.

Such a furball now. WOOF! LOL~

Hat tip for that intro shot. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

That beard 🤌🏻

Sometimes we should get two inches less because it’s more comfortable.

Who would want to lose 2 inches ? ...every thing you can do on an 11" can be done on a 13" ....tell me ...what do you do with the THE SPACE you save by using the 11" model ?😅😅😅😅😅😅

@Henry-if9pu

19 күн бұрын

You never had the 11 with the keyboard. It is special. It is a notable difference.

Nothing was more underwhelming than, “same clunky-limited OS, BUT IT’S THINNER!” I suppose it was their way of throwing us a bone, our iPads won’t weigh us down as much while we’re also having to carry around our MacBooks to do real work. If you’re not an artist and still want a tablet, get the cheapest iPad you can find, it’s fundamentally going to function the exact same.