The elderly guy made me laugh. Almost thought he was about hold up an unopened bag of popcorn

@tonycat721

3 ай бұрын

And a deck chair....

Ah yes "one more lane will fix the issue" 🤣 ... it has been tried around the world and never has it worked as intended.

@denelson83

3 ай бұрын

#OneMoreLaneBro

@DrJams

3 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the everyone waits for public transport guy making everyone timetable dependent. Car is instant departure

@denelson83

3 ай бұрын

@@DrJams Not if the public transit has a high-enough frequency.

@onionsyes

3 ай бұрын

@@DrJams instant departure into a traffic jam. Muppet

@advocadoboff4731

2 ай бұрын

This upgrade isn't actually adding any lanes to the M25...

Without the M25, I don't think we would of had such a big rave scene down south.

Adding more lanes just increases traffic..... It is called induced demand.

@avalon7902

3 ай бұрын

Traffic is good. Traffic is what people want.

@DrJams

3 ай бұрын

No. More lanes equal more capacity

@zenojai10

3 ай бұрын

@@DrJamsyou are theoretically right but induced demand will fly through the roof

@pilotvlog

2 ай бұрын

@@DrJams kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXyO2bF6ecjJpJc.html

@claretblue2509

2 ай бұрын

People who play cities skylines think that. People don’t just go “Wasn’t going to go out today but since there is an extra lane on the m25 I think I will now.” It’s just weird.

Is this also the original concrete, noisy surface section of the M25 which has never been asphalted with low noise alternatives?

@avalon7902

3 ай бұрын

Also I suspect, is far more fuel consumptive than smooth flat high quality asphalt.

@eldrago19

2 ай бұрын

​@@avalon7902actually, no. Concrete deforms less which means that it is more fuel efficient to drive on, especially for lorries.

@goldclassdetailing2197

2 ай бұрын

More speed cameras and money making gadgets installed. Nothing to do with public ease or any improvement. As usually nothing new. It’s sad how the man stream media just sugar coats it and say to ease traffic flow 😂 Media Controlled by the Masonic cult so is the uk government.

@Pranavisimo

2 ай бұрын

yes It is the noisy section

used to live near J18 twenty years ago massive snow -- walked down to the motorway just bizarre like nothing just snow even the salt trucks didnt want to go out ..... by the evening even wild animals running across the road a few days later back to the same old traffic jam .......

@EdgyNumber1

3 ай бұрын

Lol that was the same snow that shut down Birmingham after the prior rain washed away all the salt! I was there sitting in the kitchen the student halls thinking 'no one's going to work tomorrow... no one driving back home tonight!' 😆 🤣 😂

@robinwalsh9542

3 ай бұрын

@@EdgyNumber1 not even Chris Rea

It was like this in lockdown

More lanes mean increased traffic, this was known at the time. But they built it anyway.

@N269

3 ай бұрын

Too many junctions.

@kikolandzik

3 ай бұрын

no if u reduce the cars 😂

@HALLish-jl5mo

3 ай бұрын

That’s not quite how induced demand works. It’s actually that throughput increases until traffic re-emerges. But only within certain limits. Cut the M25 down to 1 lane and it would be far worse because there is a fundamental level of demand that can’t take alternative transport, things like work vans etc. Conversely, build it out to something stupid like 50 lanes, and there aren’t enough people in or near London to clog it up (though the junctions would be bottlenecks).

@Jimmy_Jones

3 ай бұрын

I think it works in the US where everyone has a car. But there is probably a limit in the UK where people don't drive as far, and not as many are 100% reliant on them.

would like to see the video footage of the alternative roads and how busy they actually were. Filming a closed road doesn’t highlight how many cars on the road and the constant battle drivers have trying to get around the country…

more lanes will just create induce demand and there will be more traffic and more pollution

@Arthur-Gieves

3 ай бұрын

Were fine ulez has made it ok because driver's pay khan £10 every time they enter and somehow the pollution doesn't come out it's amazing and even the wind doesn't blow in from surrounding cities

Years ago I was given one of my best ever Christmas presents a booklet showing how to junction hop every junction on the M25. I might need to dig it out again.

Old man made himself crack tf up

It's the design of J10 that is the cause of all the jams. A motorway and a dual carriageway joining with a roundabout in between. That isn't changing, although slip roads for left turns are being built.

A3 used to be a bottleneck going past Devils Punch Bowl in Surrey. Before the Hindhead Tunnel was built and opened in 2011. I can see why that Junction 10 on the M25 where it meets with the A3 near Esher is a complete gridlock and a new wider roundabout is being built.

Half the people moaning about it are people that work or should i say skive from home , it only affects them because it is a longer drive to the coffee shop

I live in the area. The A3 around J10 of the M25 also has extensive roadworks. They have cut down hundreds, if not thousands of mature trees to accommodate the extra lanes. It's disgraceful. Then they introduce ULEZ nearby due to environmental concerns. One rule for them...

@harrythompson6977

3 ай бұрын

they were planted for the forestry industry after ww2 it not as distasteful as it appears they were just never harvested or utilised previously

@tnetroP

3 ай бұрын

@@harrythompson6977Are you suggesting that the removal of hundreds or possibly thousands of trees doesn't have a significant impact on the environment?

@harrythompson6977

3 ай бұрын

they are non native trees. they haven't touched the ancient woodland 100 meters behind on the Effingham side by Ockham bites, i didnt say your point but do live in the area

@jholotanbest2688

3 ай бұрын

That is horrible. The lack of forests in the UK is shocking, in general. And more lanes won’t reduce the traffic almost at all.

@TheMagicJIZZ

3 ай бұрын

​@@tnetroPno

I don't suppose they will try to fix potholes and other bad bits of the closed section of road while they have the opportunity.

@zetectic7968

3 ай бұрын

Don't be silly! That would require thinking & planning.

I remember seeing it being constructed, such peace and quiet without a ring round going round and round non stop every day.

Why am I getting the last of us vibes that HBO show from the M25 being empty 😂

@aleksei5172

3 ай бұрын

In the last of us it would be full of broken cars

Price per mile kit going in imho.

@Mid-Knife-Crisis69

3 ай бұрын

More than likely.

I wonder if what well the changes will fare given induced demand.

This is the most British way of "fixing" a problem I've ever seen.

Of course it was calm, everyone was told to stay away. Go look at the alternative routes to see the effects. This is why more lanes does ease congestion, people go the quickest route, an extra lane on a road easing congestion leads more people to take the road instead of alternatives and clogs it back up. "Build it and the people will come" is why we have too many cars, we kept building roads, so the cars kept coming. We know this, we still keep building road for cars, rather than alternatives.

@ocelotrevs

3 ай бұрын

Pretty much everything you've written is incorrect.

@ChrispyNut

3 ай бұрын

@@ocelotrevs But what, I'm too stupid to understand the truth, which is why you're not addressing anything?

@avalon7902

3 ай бұрын

What is the alternative? Go back to horse and cart, and living in the same village? The Railways - which every weekend have engineering works, every week "industrial inaction", and every day someone plops off the platform in front a train.

@ChrispyNut

3 ай бұрын

@@avalon7902 Legs, bikes, buses, trains, trams, mono rails. Instead of spending all that money, labour and material on roads, put it on the other things, which are safer, more efficient, more effective and cleaner. We've just kept rinsing and repeating the 60s, which has kept us from developing anything else. We ought to be living in vertical cities by now, so waste heat can be converted back to usable energy, very little infrastructure exposed to UV or temp swings causing damage and people have multiple levels to choose to commute across as well as up and down and means a monorail can run above people's heads along multiple routes. Or, ya know, keep living in the 60s.

How about a network of tunnels? Like Sydney?

@nastagabriel9819

3 ай бұрын

No money...To many on benefits..

This is worse than Blue Peter reporting - is this a joke ??? I see better quality news and reporter from amateur youtubers.

@ianmilleris

2 ай бұрын

Main Stream Media dear boy 😂

Actually the problems were predicted and thatcher was well aware

@zetectic7968

3 ай бұрын

It was done on the cheap: there were sections where contractors were paid the same for 2 or 3 lanes, so they only built 2. There was no foresight for the future, that was somebody else's problem.

@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg

3 ай бұрын

​@@zetectic7968nonsense.

Just one more lane and traffic will be solved

@arcan762

3 ай бұрын

Just one more lane bro

@pedromorgan99

3 ай бұрын

@@arcan762One lane for u and me and the original lane.. lets go together ;-)

@dasautopilot7097

3 ай бұрын

this is a perfect example of induced demand. I bet if they removed lanes the traffic will disappear as peoples habbits change. the m25 will always run at 100% capacity no matter the amount of lanes.

@pedromorgan99

3 ай бұрын

@@dasautopilot7097 Explained kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIWgxpmieq25qc4.html

@ChrispyNut

3 ай бұрын

Nah, that's been proven to not work. We need TWO more lanes, that'll solve it. 😆

The way you all banging on about this is ridiculous. Some road in London is closed, shut up about it!

@Gfynbcyiokbg8710

2 ай бұрын

Its not just some road in London, its the busiest in the country and this is a first in its almost 50 year history.

I call the M25 The border of London

How will signs reduce traffic .

@zetectic7968

3 ай бұрын

You either not a driver or not very bright. They will control speed, close lanes in event of accident or breakdown etc

@Dmac-7558

3 ай бұрын

Tax cameras are going up

@Shadows22_

2 ай бұрын

@@zetectic7968 there still seems to be traffic jams regardless. Trust me, I’m quite sharp. However you seem to engulfed that you’ve become blind to the traffic jams.

@Gfynbcyiokbg8710

2 ай бұрын

They never said that the new signs would

I thought this was an advert.....

A new camera gantry is really going to ease traffic!

@Gfynbcyiokbg8710

2 ай бұрын

They never said that is was going to

Too many junctions for "local" traffic :(

Was great to walk/cycle along it :) soo surreal

I got sworn at by some old bloke on that bridge at Byfleet while cycling back from Tesco this evening!

For the love of God don't introduce more lanes. How an earth is that going to "reduce pollution"? You should look at places in America such as Los Angeles as an example, many of their highways have 8 or more lanes. Traffic remains the same

More lanes does not mean less traffic, more lanes is a short term decrease in traffic, then more people show up and then put you back to square one, you don't need to be an engineer to know how silly adding more lanes is.

Why did you ask my Alexa , surly you know by now not to mention that name lol. Guess not

Need to build the M31 to relieve the M25 and M4.

They keep shutting the m42 for hs2 etc, that doesnt make the nationals.

This is hilarious, when will they learn. There will always be traffic if people drive in a city of almost 10 million people. No matter how many lanes you build. The solution is to have less people driving.

@avalon7902

3 ай бұрын

You mean less activity, less trade, less leisure and culture?

@jholotanbest2688

2 ай бұрын

@@avalon7902 Dose Tokyo, for example, have less activity than Mexico city because people use more public transport there? Why would people moving more efficiently mean less activity?

The antonyms for righteous can then include lying, scheming, machinating, thieving ?

the moment I heard ‘to create more lane’ I know this will be a traffic black hole like the US😢

It was almost like this on the morning of Lady Di's funeral. I'd never seen the main roads and motorways in Surrey so quiet - I was almost tempted to do a lap of the M25 that morning as there was so little traffic

More lanes and roads more fuel duty from the coughers to the coffers, longer commutes, rocketing property prices more poverty and longer hours on the work treadmill.

How sad are people this days

So how long this closure going to last for then?

@shardlake

3 ай бұрын

Just the weekend.

@michaeledwards427

3 ай бұрын

6 Am Monday morning. That is if the managers actually know what they're doing, the works kettle doesn't get over used and there's not over excessive leaning on shovels by the workers.

@GANJAMAN-1987

3 ай бұрын

@@michaeledwards427 lol

@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg

3 ай бұрын

​@michaeledwards427 you were saying . Or is completing the work 8 hours ahead of schedule still not fast enough?

@michaeledwards427

3 ай бұрын

@@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg I was just joking on how things usually go on roadworks in the UK. Obviously you didn't get that. Oh well.

I actually have been on the M25!!!

Are you sure this is the first time? Didn't you see what happened during covid?

Don't close it

So they can shut down the m25 at the cost if millions because it's in london. But they can't fix 5 potholes in my street. Pathetic.

Best approach would be better rail networks, ones that can also withstand extreme heat. The density of people and goods is far higher than road. If the UK wasn't so awful at rail infrastructure this wouldn't be a problem. It's unfortunate but this huge effort is going to be useless. See the ultra wide freeways in Texas and California for details.

If im on the road....im part of the problem !!

Work at night with less traffic .

Why is this news?

@fishermansid8861

3 ай бұрын

Why you commenting.

@100sky3

3 ай бұрын

@@fishermansid8861Pretty self-explanatory?

@ritchiepoon945

3 ай бұрын

Because this one is PLANNED! Closures we often encounter in daytime are unplanned.

@jholotanbest2688

3 ай бұрын

I think this was a pretty good piece that helps us reflect what we have build in the name of convinience and consumption.

You do realise that this gantry is being loaded with pay per mile cameras. As the other 3 closures planned will also be. With these cameras and the ones already installed the M25 will be covered.

the LAST thing we need is more lanes. More lanes more traffic. It's been known for over 60 years!

@avalon7902

3 ай бұрын

So what happens when they cone off a lane or two?

Almost as though this is a case study in how we over-use cars in our lives and how unnecessary for most of us they truly are... nah! me like car go vroom vroom!

FFS Channel 4 with their anti motorist slant. The M25 is a glorious success enabling millions of people to go about their lives in ways not possible before it existed. Thousands of businesses exist and thrive because of it. Children are educated. Sports and Leisure is possible. People can see each other more easily. By improving traffic flow, less energy and time is wasted.

Londoners ! Pah ! A motorway closure in any other part of the country would not even make the news !

@rb1062

3 ай бұрын

It's the busiest motorway in tbe country, though.

Idnit bruv

They should make it a double decker road.

Anyone read Good Omens ?

your busiest road is 8 lanes? thats pathetic lol (laughs in highway 401)

The UK miles of closed motorway with not a worker or any activity A sick nation of incompetence Tax cameras is all this government cares about

The UK is a TINY island, TINY, one side to the other is 180 miles and between that 180 miles is 70,000,000 people 😂😂 why people desperately try to stay here is hilarious, how the pound is as strong is absolutely even more hilarious.

@bolshevikproductions

3 ай бұрын

UK Country is also a shithole mostly 😂😂😂😂

Since it's Closed for an entire weekend,Why haven't the cleared All rubbish from the verges and middle... Decades accumulated..

Sue

40% of the population of London were not born in the the UK. The real reason why the roads are so congested is that we have too many people.

@rb1062

3 ай бұрын

Careful, you're not allowed to say the obvious on a Channel 4 site.

@joeeeee256

3 ай бұрын

The real reason we have congestion is that this country has no suitable alternative to cars. The mere fact we keep building more lanes is the reason traffic is getting so bad. Cars are an inefficient way of moving people, and obviously have many other negatives such as affordability, damage to the environment, noise and air pollution that we breath in daily. Designing towns and cities such that our most used services and 3rd places are within a 10-20 min walk from where we live, and funding mass transit projects properly such that they become the more appealing alternative to general commuters would be ground-breaking. We need to follow the examples in mainland Europe, *not* keep looking to the disasterous city design and traffic planning that took off in the US around the 60s. And by the way, globalization is inevitable, let's look to the future rather than try and maintain the past (at seemingly any cost looking at a few of the more disturbing comments...).

@7th.trumpet

3 ай бұрын

Ooohhh watch it ! The far-left don't like realism !

@lexm17

3 ай бұрын

We need immigrants given our record levels of low productivity. Poor road management and planning is to blame for this not immigrants

@shirleyfrank6280

3 ай бұрын

What a cheap shot to try to get other ignorant people’s likes - didn’t work though did it. Get some education before posting stupid comments. 🫢

If the traffic police stopped and fined people who do not use their lanes properly - traffic would flow better, however the Govt. in it's infinite wisdom has opened the doors to immigrants who consider places such as Calcutta etc. as perfect examples of acceptable driving practices. God help the indigenous British people.. 🙄

Until middle lane hogs learn how to drive, traffic on motorways will go on forever.

Run free wildlife

The motorways are a joke, road works everywhere, iv been travelling since my teenage years and I'm almost 40, to and from Birmingham and there still working on the motorways, what there doing I'll never know 🤷

I think its something the Conservatives have thought up just in case they are ever asked in the future to point to one constructive concrete achievement that they have managed during their time in office.

finally heaven has arrived on the M25😂

Hs2 was a fantastic engineering fleet on to the next

🤣🤣🤣🤣

More lanes why they want rid of cars or are they lying. It be a lane just like in russia for those with not those with out.

Interstate 5 in Los Angeles, and the entire freeway system is so well built around the city that except in peak hours, traffic always flows. US highway networks are incredibly well planned to take on huge volumes of traffic even at low speeds. M25 is a baby compared to those and more cars than the 4 lanes can take. Poor thing will collapse soon and the A roads in small Surrey villages will take the hit with gridlocks every morning. Oh, and not to mention the never ending 13-year road works, and the tall yellow thingies called average speed cams.

Ah the old build more lanes trick. worked great in the US

Yep more lanes to cause more problems. Just like the improvement of j25 which is just as bad as ever after the improvement.

Being played by non contributers!

Explained: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIWgxpmieq25qc4.html

It's almost as if the damned government had written the script. Not a word of criticism of the idea that the country needs more roads, in spite of the DECADES of warnings about the reality that more roads simply results in more traffic. No mention of how cripplingly expensive public tansport is in the UK, or the cutbacks to services in that sector, just the parroted BS of needing more roads. TBF, I still reckon that C4 News is easily the best broadvast news in. the UK, but that, unfortunately, is a very low bar..

more roads are not the answer. better options and better non car infrastructure is the solution to less traffic and less cars overall. dedicated bus lanes but removing car lanes = more people on buses and less in cars. encourage other transport and make is quicker and cheaper than families owning multiple cars.

The UK is a joke, there is a 30km stretch of motorway near me in Spain, they resurfaced the lot overnight. I didn’t hear a thing and in the morning it was complete and marked. The road maintenance companies in the UK have zero oversight that’s why the roads are so bad everywhere.

@zetectic7968

3 ай бұрын

It is the same companies rewarded for failure.

Where are the enviro-terrorists who caused so much cost for HS2?

Original plan was a loop.. And if done right.. like osaka kzread.info/dash/bejne/YquTttmIo7jSdto.html

@ChrispyNut

3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure anything's been done right in this nation since the 80s. At this point, "done right" is completely wrong, that's not remotely "profitable". In fact, I believe advocating for such would fall within the remit of the latest extremism definition.

@adrianthoroughgood1191

3 ай бұрын

The M25 is a loop! That's why the said people drive round in the other direction!

@edwardbernthal160

3 ай бұрын

@@ChrispyNut thank goodness we invented the motor car, can you imagine if the M25 was filled with horses and carts.

@pedromorgan99

3 ай бұрын

@@ChrispyNutEverything has a cost center now. Am olde and same feeling since tharcher was ok imho at start, but then start the profits.. it working... ;-(

I love it, close the entire road to install a bridge with more cameras which can be used to penalise motorists. Marvellous.

Need to move some military equipment/ammunition?

Almost 40 years the entire M25 motorway has remained open, through upgrades, repairs & restructuring but these clowns somehow needed three days to remove one bridge & put up an overhead gantry ! It’s just not good enough really ! This project is clearly run & organised by a bunch of morons., with more of these planned weekend closures coming.

@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg

3 ай бұрын

Do you think they should have done the work while keeping the motorway open ?

Life is preparing you all for the day of judgement.

70 million people on this island. Less people. Less cars.

@aaronthebest5519

3 ай бұрын

Less people = less taxes paid = less money = less spending on infrastructure like this

@squattingcheetah

3 ай бұрын

@@aaronthebest5519 taxation is theft. Let's have less thievery

@joeeeee256

3 ай бұрын

@@squattingcheetah if we didn't have taxation where do you think you'd be living right now?

@rb1062

3 ай бұрын

​@@aaronthebest5519 Unfortunately, we have ended up with more people and less taxes paid. Which is why the infrastructure and NHS is a mess.

@zetectic7968

3 ай бұрын

@@squattingcheetah An idiot has entered the comments🙄

Nobody cares

Remember when they could fix a pothole without shutting down the whole fkn motorway.

@adrianthoroughgood1191

3 ай бұрын

Bit harder to demolish a bridge safely with traffic flowing underneath!

Stop driving you muppets. Majority of car use is not needed - and you knows it!

@rb1062

3 ай бұрын

But most of us have busy lives. We can't all sit at home on our phones all day.

@onionsyes

3 ай бұрын

@@rb1062exactly what you're doing though, right?! Research shows most car journeys aren't needed. It's just lazy muppets like you finding excuses

@rb1062

3 ай бұрын

@@onionsyes Oh dear! Looks like my comment about sitting on your phone all day was over the 🎯!