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M. Shadows on Avenged Sevenfold's Cutting Edge New Creation [Ft. Finn McKenty]
We're fortunate to be joined by Avenged Sevenfold frontman M. Shadows and popular creator Finn McKenty of The Punk Rock MBA. Avenged Sevenfold has a new album in the works and the band just launched their Deathbats Club, which is a cutting edge new fan club experience.
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Thanks for having me! Stoked to talk about this.
@JCVenomous
2 жыл бұрын
I like your videos! You surely know your stuff about MCR, A7X, and Slipknot
Hey bro ! Look at you moving up in the world! Highly deserved. The fact you got M Shadows on here to interview and talk is amazing 👏
@Celeste-in-Oz
2 жыл бұрын
Brian is a really good interviewer and so enthusiastic - definitely deserved 🤩
Holy shit, you got M Shadows. This must be some kind of dream come true for you.
So ready for a new album from them.
@julianlyhus3479
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t Bloody wait!!🔥🔥 Into the either was so cool. Sad that won’t be on the album tho!😅 but still can’t wait!
@rizkynalis2400
2 жыл бұрын
i'm on fireeee uaghhhh
@stevenjohnson8011
2 жыл бұрын
But they have really cool pictures that you can pay for now 😍😍😍
@chrisschaal7188
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it’s nowhere near what they did with “the stage”. That wasn’t them at all.
I like how Matt explains NFTs I just wish avenged didn't sell them but not my choice
I flipped out to know that M Shadows was on this video.
New song >>>>> NFTs
This definitely seems like an exciting new concept to bring power back to the artists. I like how the internet is slowly making that possible. I’m not a fan of NFTs just because of the concept behind them but I can get behind this idea.
This is excellent. As someone who works in banking as a quant at a large Bank. I really appreciate this being a very innovative and great way to make fans into shareholders and investors essentially. This also solves what is known as the principal-agent problem in finance - which is essentially a way to align the interests of the artists and the fans as they both share a common goal to achieve the highest returns on the investment. That is a direct incentive to expand the audience. This is a great funding mechanism and a way to dis-intermediate brokers from the process. This is a great and much needed innovation in the music industry. The old world just doesn’t work and is no longer fit for purpose. This is the way forward. That said - as with any other assets, the valuation principles, price discovery mechanisms, the secondary market trading mechanisms, the liquidity and the risk/return profiles should all be made as clear and transparent as possible in order to ensure an orderly functioning of this nascent market.
Can't wait for the new Avenged Sevenfold/A7X album!!! The Stage ruled! 🤘🏽
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
It was alright.
@Timewalker13
2 жыл бұрын
@@decemberflower3990 it's their best album by far
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
@@Timewalker13 it doesn’t touch COE or even WTF. Their only heavy song on the entire album was “God Damn” and “The Stage”. Everything else was prog/hard rock/rock. A7x died when the Rev died.
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
@@Timewalker13 lyrically it’s their best album and production wise also. There’s just no catchy riffs or songs that are heavy and or fast paced. Just my opinion.
@WilzeyLad
2 жыл бұрын
1. Sounding of the Seventh Trumpet (2001 - 2002) 2. Waking the Fallen (2003) 3. City of Evil (2005) 4. Avenged Sevenfold (2007) 5. Diamonds in the Rough (2008) 6. Nightmare (2010) These 6 albums are the best albums.. HTTK was basically Plain but decent & The Stage was Amazing but it lost the Metalcore side of them :(
At this point no one can explain what a NFT is, but everyone has a secondhand knowledge of what it REALLY is!!
@TheRinguDinku5454
2 жыл бұрын
Cringe?
Thanks for having me!
Such a great talk. Finn is always excellent during these types of convos
As a huge fan of A7X, I appreciate them for wanting to reach fans in a different way and also giving us diehard fans a possibility to not just be a huge part of the band that we know and love but it gives the ability to also pass it along to others, or Pass it down. I love it and thank you the band for the opportunity. I'm excited to see this go as far as you plan for it to.
This was amazing to watch and listen to. You got two of the best people in this video as well. Both amazing guys. Great video much love man
Let's make it as complicated as possible to support a band....?
Hey guys I love y'alls music it has inspired me threw out all walks of my life and just wanted to say thank you.
@JacksonTheEpic
2 жыл бұрын
Threw out lmao
@isaacraid9975
2 жыл бұрын
A7X isn’t about their music anymore. They’re a band that just exists and does NFT stuff
@styxxhs8048
2 жыл бұрын
@@isaacraid9975 well their last album was really good, actually.. felt more like some of their older stuff! Which im all in for!
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
@@styxxhs8048 felt like their old stuff? They keep drifting away from their original sound further and further. The stage was partially rock and prog.
@styxxhs8048
2 жыл бұрын
@@decemberflower3990 first time in a long i heard shadows try and scream.. their songs had the same depressive undertones as they use to.. and first time in a long time a song went over 2.5 minutes.. the stage was so much better than lets say.. hail to the king.. cmon now..
good to hear from M.Shadows
My problem is...I like to keep it simple to support a band...im certainly not gonna research nft and chain funds.. cmon....release a fuckin cd and sell a tshirt and poster....simple
@chaoticchaos894
2 жыл бұрын
They can definitely do both. They haven't released a cd They can't tour on which would be the selling merchandise and a poster thing lmao
I never thought of NFT in this way. I've practically figured it was useless but the way they are trying to make it with the bands seems super well thought out and sounds like they are gonna innovate the future of music.
Drop the new album 💿
@Jamie_London
2 жыл бұрын
They’re putting the finishing touches on this month and then it’s getting mixed in March 🤘
@Calisexpensive
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamie_London fuuuck that’s a long wait haha I’m ready now! Lol
@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385
2 жыл бұрын
Same
no way all of you rock!!!!!!!!!!
This is bigger than anyone realizes… holy shit
Nft....basically means blowing your money on thin air
@brucetransjenner7111
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiehoover9348 is he wrong? Nope
@brucetransjenner7111
2 жыл бұрын
@Bri Guy aww I really hurt your feelings in the other vid huh? Lmao good and of course you think it's ok to be gay. Typical
@brucetransjenner7111
2 жыл бұрын
@Bri Guy so in other words, I got you in your feelings to stalk me. Ahaha foh
@brucetransjenner7111
2 жыл бұрын
@P33N a "dunbass" aye? How ironic lmfao
@ruleaus7664
2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean thin air? You get real-life perks for owning one. Not only that, but you can sell it, so it becomes an investment of a sort. I do wonder how it's going to turn out though, and how it will mesh with whatever club they'll be running alongside this, more exclusive one. I imagine they'll have a second membership club going that has a regular paid subscription, because the profit they get from the NFTs is shaky. They only get 5% when one sells.
Was just playing A7X on my guitar 🤣 I love A7X
Now that this makes makes more sense, I like the business model but I dont think an NFT is exactly necessary to make it happen but the future is the future. Now what I dont like is how this is gonna end up being a "Rich kids club" cause these things aren't gonna be cheap and ALOT of fans aren't gonna be able to afford it
I would get a real kick out of investing in an emerging band in this way!
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
A7x is already a pretty big band they’ve been around since 2001. They just haven’t released anything in a few years.
@Celeste-in-Oz
2 жыл бұрын
@@K26872 yeah I'm more referring to new / up & coming bands.. 'buying in' via crypto / nft seems like a great idea. Not only you get a (risky yes) investment kinda like small cap / unlisted shares, but much more personal engagement & enjoyment of your investment! + Bands get freedom from big label ownership - everybody wins!
NICE!🤘🏻 I just saw that OZZY is into the NFT's now also.
I’ve learned so much about NFT’s in the first 5 minutes than I have in the past year or so. Much respect to M. for breaking it down in a way that I can actually understand what they are and the benefits of having them. 🤘🏻🙏🙏🤘🏻
yezzer they airdropped me a ticket stub to their next tour any venue already.
This Band is Absolutely Perfect. This Band has got to be the Most Perfect Ordinary Metal Band, You guys are Absolutely Mature AF. You Guys are Absolutely Perfect, very Healthy Life you guys Seem to be Living. 🖤🤘.
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
Their Iron Maiden and In Flame rip offs.
@Timewalker13
2 жыл бұрын
@@decemberflower3990 In Flames is shit
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
@@Timewalker13 A7x is twice as bad. Part of the reason why it’s taking them six years to put out an album.
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
@@Timewalker13 at least In Flames is original. 🤷♂️ 😂
@Timewalker13
2 жыл бұрын
@@decemberflower3990 Bruh in flames is only voice cracky screamo type shit.
One large appeal to bands doing this is, as a consumer, you are basically investing in a stock that can appreciate in value. If you “discover” and new band, invest in their NFT club, and they blow up; you can sell your NFT for a large profit if you want.
@coldinwisconsin2017
2 жыл бұрын
WAIT: he just lost me. This is NOT like buying a stock. This IS a club with a yearly membership. 12:18 This is more of a money grab than I thought.
I’ll have to watch after work
Love the punk rock MBA. Never a big fan of avenge7. Still really enjoyed the video. 👍
Digital coins and tokens?....cmon....CD...POSTER....TSHIRT....it is really all it takes...seems we need to be investors and tech genius to support a band we like....fuck ....fuck...fuck
There is simply no way NFTs will become the way of the future. Its doent take much mediation to realise is stupid to try to buy and own digital and forever copyable art. Its a cash grab, people. A bubble that will pop.
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
A7x isn’t making music anymore… they are just doing this to keep some sort of fan base. They haven’t made an album in 6 years.
@jdogsful
2 жыл бұрын
@@K26872 i hadnt realised it has been that long. thats disappointing.
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@@jdogsful I honestly would’ve thought the band was over if they didn’t remain active on social media. But now they are more of a clothes store to me then a band. They are doing everything EXCEPT making new music basically. Lol
@keiranheaffey666
2 жыл бұрын
@@K26872 Album being finished early next year with a release scheduled for around the May mark as long as they can tour those summer shows.
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@@keiranheaffey666 they’ve been saying that for years lol.
Or... Get this, you could sell a physical copy of your music or art and then you actually own like for reals... In real life physically.
nice! too bad M.Shadows didn't put the camera in the opposite side of the room. never have light behind! that's lighting level 1
Ayyy! three of my fave channels in a collab i never saw coming! 😎👍
I was a huge critic of the Deathbat Club when I first heard of it, but after reading into it I think this is the future in which bands should follow. It also let's people show off who the real OG fans are via the NFT history. No more "I've been a fan since Sounding The 7th Trumpet" etc, you can easily say, "I am an original Deathbat holder" etc. I don't think any other band could pull this off, with such a big audience or with such success that could really help bring a change to the way that actually helps the band and not the greedy "publication" venues. What I'd like to see other bigger bands include in their hypothetical NFT: Deftones White Pony Club: 2 free Belching Beavers at their shows Slipknot Maggot Club: air drop for 1 free tour shirt per tour (or 1 lifetime mask!) Korn Freak Club: meet and greet opportunities or backstage VIP access System of a Down: ....yeah right, this one won't be worth 0.0008 etherium 🤣🤣🤣
@DingDongDaddyFromDumas
2 жыл бұрын
If being able to objectively prove how big of a fan you are is a part of your thought process as a human being, that’s a little pathetic, no?
@thenumberonebeaner2211
2 жыл бұрын
@@DingDongDaddyFromDumas I'd say more than a little pathetic
@legoshi5925
2 жыл бұрын
that "original holder" part as a way of proving legitimacy as a fan is absolutely pathetic lol, imagine paying a truckload of cash just to claim you're a better/more long-term fan than someone else??? it shouldn't matter, being a fan of something isn't a competition, if you're a real one it'll be pretty obvious, this way just allows people with enough money to throw away on dumb gimmicks the chance to buy their way into looking better than others even if in reality they're just as inauthentic as the people who would typically pretend to have been longtime fans
Point being the internet sucks for good bands...
I know Avenged Sevenfold is getting alot of hate because of this new direction! I don’t really understand it either to be honest. But I think when time moves forward the generation of the world changes and people want things to go back in the past. At the same time it’s impossible we just have to except things are changing in this reality! 🥲 NO MORE HATE!
Ehhh, I'll pass on all this. I mean, get the bag you guys but NFTs are wack.
Sign me up! I want to join the club for sure!
Omg my favourite vocalist in this universe ❤️
M shadows be sounding like butters on the South Park covid special.
@ayayronald
2 жыл бұрын
This was literally what I was thinking when I saw this video lmao.
I have 2 questions for M. Shadow. #1 I DO NOT OWN A CELL PHONE can I still own a death bat? #2 do I access these things you speak of on your website or do I need to go buy a ton of items to get into a meta world??? I mean I am faaaaaaar from young but love and believe in your vision, enjoy ALL your music, I am willing to join in
Sorry I don’t like this idea… I don’t know how to wrap my brain around this. This makes it feel like being a fan you have to be part of a whole business scheme. I just want to listen to music I like on Spotify. This isn’t an all new tech that’s life changing… there’s nothing wrong with the way music already is.
@jayteesgear
2 жыл бұрын
Yep soundin like theyre broke or something. Im way confused. They need to bring CD’s back
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayteesgear they’re young and they got their taste of fame and now they don’t care about the music anymore, they just want the money.
@warriorx1328
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. They are my favorite band but I'm not really digging this.
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@@warriorx1328 me too they were my favorite band and idk if I can call them that anymore bc of this.
@warriorx1328
2 жыл бұрын
@@K26872 yeah just feels like they're trying to sell some sort of pyramid scheme. I know that's not exactly the same. It just feels that way.
So just like Bourbon, where all of a sudden people buy up $50 bottles and now bc they aren't accessible to everyone, the become triple (or more) the value on the secondary market. That's what I feel like I'm hearing...
Awesome interview 🤘🤘
This sounds great to buy into now as these digital tokens will only go way up in value, I'm sure. There are a lot of questions running through my head though. It seems the most exclusive perks will go to the holders of these tokens, but will it remain that way if they don't continue to resell adequately? The band only gets paid that 5% when they resell, so what incentive will they have to continue to provide the perks when people choose to hold onto them. I'd assume most people are buying into these for the perks because they're big fans of the band, but not for an investment to resell. And what happens when a holder of the NFT dies?
Looking forward to listening to that Berried Alive influence on the new A7X album!
What everyone needed to hear! 8:57 😇
@JXR8789
2 жыл бұрын
So you can get paid if you are part of the deathbat club? 20% of their royalties?
I bought a couple! Excited to see where this goes. They also air dropped people free tickets for anyone who bought last year! Excited for new music and their nft progress.
So. stocks but without financial dividends, and its up to the band to pay out merch and exclusive content relative to market price?
Really enjoyed this collaboration
Way bummed that bands have to resolve to these levels in order to survive....the internet and the music industry as a whole realy sucked all of the life out of good music....there ...thats my two cents
I love you all guys
God, M Shadows still makes me w@t! I mean hot.. I still listen to them every time I play music.. my daughter thinks I’m nuts, she’s always yelling at me to turn down my music! Lol
I wanna see Matt better😭😭😭😭🤣
Just release music ffs
For an Australianthe price of a deathbat nft is 380. I love this idea but its probbaly too much for someone living in Australia who barely sees a7x come to australia. Especially during covid times.
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
🎯
I have my screenshot finger ready
When is the album coming out ?
@maxromero23
2 жыл бұрын
Later on in the year. They are finishing up now and will mix the album in March
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@@maxromero23 if the new album is coming out at all, I say it’s not coming out until October or November. But, I wouldn’t be suprised if avenged never releases anything again lmao.
@glen_gorblin6969
2 жыл бұрын
@@K26872 They have confirmed its probably gonna be out around the end of summer
NFTs are the same thing as the tulip craze of 1600s...humans are funny
Shadows in dark
Finn Mckenty lol. Legend!😂😂
When I hear the term sandbox, I think metaverse, which in turn, made me deactivate my Facebook. Not a fan.
Lil Uzi vert is alternative? Bro.....
Eyy!! M Shads!🔥😎
😎
Liquid Death = fancy beer can that contains water
I saw that asian drummer girl Ayeon drumming your stuff, she's pretty good have you seen her play yet?
On february the token holder contact avenged web to sign? I don't even know what they are talking about :')
Has Matt always had a lisp? Asking for a friend.
imagine if AFI did this with Despair Faction
I love A7X but I hate NFT's.
I would buy a Chon nft In a heartbeat
What up… sloth boy here Warp crew 4 life.
Poaching for Relevance. Professional musicians falling back on KZreadrs. Kind of like boxing/MMA and KZreadrs.
Killer 🤘🏻 great to see all of these dudes here. Love all your music and shows. Good to see you guys trying to create new revenue channels and monetisation mechanisms. Music on its own is no longer a viable revenue source stand alone, so makes total sense. This seems an interesting modern confluence of music and digital technology.
Awesome 👍
Finn \m/ M.Shadows \m/
New AX7 Nice! RIP Rev…
This is either a great idea or just completely selling out.
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
😇😎
Might aswell become a million different Justin beibers
M is so hot 😢
Fuck NFT's. I'll go online and pirate it before I give someone money so they can tell me, you own that now. If the game shuts down you might be told you own the skin but you can't use it. I still listen to old Avenge but haven't enjoyed them since city of evil. Just another way to make a quick buck.
@Sacredbrioche
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
I don't even know what NFT's im sudanese lol
Did you expect more out of a Hot Topicore band?
Finn
I completely forgot that A7X was still a thing since all they talk about nowadays are NFTs
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@feargm yup. And for merchandise for a band that basically doesn’t exist anymore.
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what’s gonna happen when their new album comes out. They seem so money hungry I feel like they are gonna lose most of their fan base.
@SparcReviews
2 жыл бұрын
@@K26872 It's just really upsetting because they were one of a handful of bands that I listened to when times were really tough for me. Their music got me through a lot and now they'd rather have their focus on this NFT crap after not making anything for like what...6 years now?
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@@SparcReviews I feel the same way. I always respected them as a band but I can’t anymore bc it is clear that they are only focused on money now.
@K26872
2 жыл бұрын
@feargm yea I agree. It’s not even just the NFT, I’ve had enough of them re-releasing their old music and pumping out new merch instead of doing the one thing that matters- the music.
Bruh *PLEASE* tell me yall not defending NFTs right now....
Lost respect for A7X. Instead of working on an album they just try to sell us NFTs
Please tell Finn to back away from the camera, it’s so distracting!
@decemberflower3990
2 жыл бұрын
He’s right below you.
@Beginningmedel6
2 жыл бұрын
@@decemberflower3990 😵😵
Tezos is better than ethereum for nfts. Fail
WE WANT MUSIC FROM OUR MUSCIANS NOT GLORIFIED MICROTRANSACTIONS!!! M. Shadows is fuckin lost. 🤣
It's not a scam but it's a way to directly support the band under the concept of giving back to the fans which it's there right!