Such a wonderful interview. Greetings from Lango ( The community of Late H.E Apollo Milton Obote)

@KPtravels001

11 ай бұрын

Thank you. I’ll be in Lira on Wednesday to cover the Lango

I salute this great Son of Padhola. Am delighted by your efforts to coordinate the Writing of a new Dhopadhola-English Dictionary! Wishing you and your team of writers success!!!

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

Many many thanks

@mauriceowuor4682

3 ай бұрын

Great information japadhola

He knows history well. A true treasure

@KPtravels001

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, such a treasure.

When facing 'rangach' from the main house the first son's 'simba' is on the right, the same side as the father's bedroom. The 'simba', if it has two rooms, has the bedroom on the left when facing 'rangach'. So generally in a luo (Kenya) homestead set up, bedrooms as usually on the right when you are leaving the house.

I'm a great follower of luo history. An ja kanyadoto in homabay, South nyanza.

This is wonderful im a luo from kenya and im very very much happy to listen to you narrating this thank you sir and be blessed.

Much love ....K'ogot...mr ambasador

Excellent interview . For future posterity it is time to work for a long term plan to create Luo-language, history, music, culture ,museum etc and economic/business/agribusiness/technology/film centers. This can be done in all the regions occupied by Luo starting with Tororo/Pakwach and Kisumu . This can be done by creating a history, anthropological and language university in all the regions and libraries . THIS CAN HELP FOSTER UNITY THROUGH KNOWELDGE,SELF AWARENESS AND ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT . The Universities can then have spaces such as indoor or outdoor amphitheaters to host LUO FESTIVALS also .

@papd3532

11 ай бұрын

Kenya VP Oginga Odinga started Luo Thrift to empower Luo economically and worked closely with President Milton Obote in Uganda . Milton Obote was a regular visitor of Oginga Odinga in Kisumu and Oginga Odinga travelled extensively with his family to Kampala ,Entebbe, Pakwach, Tororo, Agoro ,Lira, Gulu, Jinja, Labongo etc in efforts to unite Luo through Luo Union and Luo thrift . Younger populations can then learn the language and history and culture while also taking course work in economic and business due to modern requirements of survival through entrepreneurship . There is enough knowledge to create fully fledged universities that will be the custodian of Luo in modern times . This is similar to what other groups have done such as the Chinese, English, Arabs, Japanese, French etc . It is common to find a French school or Chinese Institute etc .To fulfil this you can partner with members of the community with resources who can invest in such a ventures in various regions .

Great bro .I will continue watching your videos coz they are very educative.

@KPtravels001

11 ай бұрын

I’m happy you like it. Help me share widely. I need more luos

I am not Luo, but I really love the job you're doing. I wish all African communities would do that to trace their history and rich heritage.

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Emmanuel. I appreciate your kind words.

Davis Bin Oluoch from Kenya. A great job you are doing

A small correction to the narrative about the Collo. Collos or Shilluks are Luo like the Anywa or Paari or Acholi, Collo is not in a group with Dinka or Nuer, but if the other Luos want to disown one of their brother ie the Collo that's dispeccable. Collo is Luo proper

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

I agree with you 100%. Collo are luo by all definitions.

Simply tremendous KP.. Huge thank you "WAN LUO/LWO" TV.. and the 2 amazing presenters.. Emma and Pat.. I'm a close follower and hands-on participant in this great and enormous (KP) project.. Erokamano.. Apwoyo.. Oceng Abonyo Oyugi...

Kedi or kedo phased out in Lango because people began to consider it primitive. When schools were opened those who went to school began to consider traditional practices primitive

Very informative.

Much love from Jinja Uganda 🇺🇬

@oketchostephen5222

11 ай бұрын

Thanks alot sister!!!.... Just thought you are in homabay, Kenya!

@princessnyangi3098

11 ай бұрын

@oketchostephen5222 no,though it's my origin (homa hills)

@oketchostephen5222

11 ай бұрын

Mano ber !!! Onge ng'ata pingo! Erokamano nyamera.

I've never heard Tanzanian Luos referred to as Kavirondo, in Kenya Kavirondo was an exonym for the Luo and Luhya communities living around Lake Victoria. They were separated as the Nilotic and Bantu Kavirondo.

Cool is lou

How can I support this channel, I like the work you're doing. ❤

@KPtravels001

11 ай бұрын

You can check the top of the channel for a PayPal address or send me private message

Thank you so much KP.. This was one very well informed discussion/conversation.. uncle Wandera Salmon Owino is amazing in his eloquence and dept of knowledge of Luo history.. I've learned quite a lot of historical facts that I didn't know about completely.. Erokamano.. Apwoyo.. Thank you ever more.. Good health...

@odochokee9856

11 ай бұрын

But some of his information is questionable, Such as the idea that shilluk are not Luo

@ocengoyugi4578

11 ай бұрын

@@odochokee9856 Ancient history will always have conflicting theories and suggestions.. It's well over 1000 years since the migration and spread began from "Egypt".. it's quite difficult to be absolutely certain whether or not what 1 (historian) says is wholly accurate.. a lot of guess work indeed.. Future collective discussions and conversations among experienced Luo historians from different parts will probably get some of the records rewritten..

@odochokee9856

11 ай бұрын

History has a lot of theories. It is unfortunate that most of the elders we go were born during the early 20th century are have passed on. I appreciate the history my great grandparents, grandparents and great uncles passed onto me in form of hidden clan history . I need to start documenting them soon as I have extremely matured in age.

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

​@@odochokee9856Shilluk are not jopoluo, hence their origin is not from King Oluuo Atyak who ruled in Wau

Good job

keep it up wuod luo

nice conversation.

Thank u so much our minister of the Tieng Adhola Cultural Institution Tororo(TACI). Mwodhi ranni His Highness kwar Adhola Moses Stephen Owori

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

I was so privileged to meet both Kwar Adhola and the Minister of Culture.

Well done Mr Ogot. You need to pay much attention to the various cultural dances by the different Luo groupings as well. In Acoli where I come from there are more than a dozen unique dances of very high quality

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

I will do that when I get to Acholi. But I believe I already did that for both Kumam and Padhola.

Itimo maber omera Peter. An Japadhola bende

Food, of Jopadola. Boor, kwon kal, am happy all the culture and food of Padola are practiced by the Acholi and luo in Sudan. There is no wedding is Acholi without a bride prize in symbol of speaks ❤❤❤❤❤ i need to visit Tororo

Wow......

Fantastic show

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Help me share widely with your friends and family. I need more luos here.

Oh Mr Kogot, the man is impeccably vast about the roots of the Luo Nation. Work with him and make sure you trail Luo roots up to Egypt. It is now a fact that we are now more aware of our brothers and sisters some were out there with whom we closely share our culture.

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

I will to the deepest extent possible.

Mzee is truly knowledgeable we thank him so much. Maybe to clarify a little bit, 1. The Luo Nyiganda and Ang'al in Congo are Alur of the royal Ucibu clan. 2. The Luo Panduru, War, Palara and others are Alur of the royal Atyak Clan which the Ugandan Alur chiefs of Okoro, Paidha, Padea and other chiefs in Padyere and parts of Jonam belong to. wafoyo wu makwee makwee makwee

@KPtravels001

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the clarification

@eliazali_4200

11 ай бұрын

@@KPtravels001 you're doing a very great thing, I'm glad to contribute the little I know.

@johnmark570

11 ай бұрын

The Slur are Luo. The biggest population of the Nyiganda and the Angal are in Congo were they originated from and where Thiful migrated, lived and died.

@eliazali_4200

11 ай бұрын

@@johnmark570 yes you are right. Actually unless I'm mistaken the Angal and Juganda chiefdoms are wholly in Congo. War Palara is the one that spills into Uganda with Erussi forming part of Padyere but their real allegiance being with the chief of War-Palara. Of course taking into account the fact that all the Alur were in Congo till west nile was added to Uganda, and part of Acoli given to Sudan in 1914 Furthermore Angal is the one that gave birth to the chiefdoms of Mukambo, Ruvinga, JUpio, and some of the other chiefdoms in Congo. Atyak/Okoro gave birth to the now Okoro chiefdom, Paidha, Padea and others in Uganda, and to the Panduru, War, Palara and others in Congo as well. All in all the Alur both sides of the border can be generally divided into the Atyak group and the Ucibu groups as the largest, then to a smaller extent, the pa Kwonga and Ragem (Jonam) groups. According to legend, Atyak are directly from Nyipir, Ucibu from Thiful, pa Kwonga are for Kwonga and Ragem are for Daca/Dhasa. But all crossed the Nile after the matters between Nyipir and nyabongo at wang-lei, and all are Alur.

Judges 12:5-6 The Message (MSG) Gilead captured the fords of the Jordan at the crossing to Ephraim. If an Ephraimite fugitive said, “Let me cross,” the men of Gilead would ask, “Are you an Ephraimite?” and he would say, “No.” And they would say, “Say, ‘Shibboleth.’” But he would always say, “Sibboleth”-he couldn’t say it right. Then they would grab him and kill him there at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two Ephraimite divisions were killed on that occasion.

The Luo-Jopadhola have a national anthem . All Luo groups should create a national anthem for each group and then they can create a single Unity national anthem that unites all the groups . The 1963 Kenya national anthem was partly composed by Prof . Washington Omondi a Kenya Luo .

@papd3532

11 ай бұрын

Prof Bethwell Allan Ogot and his son Prof. Madara Ogot out of University of Nairobi Kenya can help publish his book . Prof Madara Ogot also runs a research and publishing alliance including digital material called UBUNTUNET ALLIANCE .

In the processes of luo migration from Sudan, the JOPADOLA settled in Uganda, now Tororo area and not crossed to Kenya. Remember Kisumu was the capital of Eastern Uganda.

Peter thanks for the good work. Question: Do you have articles you have written or a book l am interested

@KPtravels001

11 ай бұрын

No, I don’t have any at the moment.

@Makopiyo64

11 ай бұрын

I think every Luo region should have a dictionary and Google Luo translation. Like I see the Kenyan Luo and Tanzania can have one then other regions can have different varieties. That will make Dholuo language very reach. Or we can make a unique dictionary where a word can be defined giving version from every every region. We will keep in touch to see way forward. Great work you are doing appreciated. Dhako mokwongo iluongo ni 'mikaye' nyathi mokwongo iluongo ni 'kayo'

@Makopiyo64

11 ай бұрын

I mean rich not reach

Besides the Luo from Sudan who descended from Dimo others moved Southwards along the Nile and dispersed eastwards towards Ethiopia hence the Luo-Shilluk Kingdom with the Luo-Shilluk being amongst tallest worldwide . And further east into Ethiopia Gambella/Eritrea you have Luo-Anywaa or Luo-Anuak .

@papd3532

11 ай бұрын

Others dispersed into Chad and Central Africa republic hence Luo-Acholi, Luo-Langi, Luo-Alur . Further South in Uganda Labongo and his brother Gipir had a bitter disagreement in Wang-Lei near Pakwach hence some Luo moved Westwards into Northwest Uganda and Congo hence the Luo-Alur of DRC Congo . Other groups in Uganda include Luo-Langi(President Milton Obote,Army Chiefs Gen David Oyite Ojok,Gen Smith Acak Opon,Zanzibar Liberator John Okello) , Luo-Acholi(President Gen Tito Okello,Army Commander Gen Bazillio Olara Okello, LRA against Yoweri Museveni JOSEPH KONY, Alice Auma Lakwena, Okot Odhiambo,Nixman Opuk Oryanga,Bunia Ocan,Dominic Ongwen, Vincent Otti and others) .

@papd3532

11 ай бұрын

Other groups in Uganda include Luo-Babito, Luo-Jopaluo, Luo-Jonam, Luo-padhola .The Luo of Kenya,Tanzania are an amalgamation of these groups including the Luo-Acholi, Luo-Langi,Luo-Alur,Luo-Jopadhola etc together with other bantu groups like the Suba, Kisii,Kuria, Luhya etc . Hence Luo-Suba, Luo-Wasweta, Luo-Mukisero etc . Kenya, Tanzania Luo travelled the furthest south hence most DNA and height variation compared to Lower Egypt/Sudan Luo .

@papd3532

11 ай бұрын

The southward movement of the Luo along the Nile and settlement in Kenya, Tanzania allowed engagement in river-lake fishing and agriculture farming like Millet etc . Also like other Nilotic groups they engaged in cattle keeping hence interactions with the Kalenjin/Maasai groups whom they refer to as the Lango and Josewe respectively .

Kp lips in Kenya pays Much attention to where to burry Unmarried man, unmarried lady, man or woman who does while still in Simba. Head of homestead or wife left or right. Where the head of dead should face,Rangach or tok pacho. Corpses could not be moved into their homestead through the main gate

I am trying to get clarification. Did he say Luos are cushites? When I hear Cushites, I think of Somalis and Ethiopians though I have heard some of them say the also came from, or were associated with ancient Egypt.

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

Luo originate from Kush, the grandson of the Biblical Noah from his son Ham who lived in Mesopotamia. The other relative of the Luo is the Biblical Nimrod.

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

From Mesopotamia they migrated to ancient Egypt

@ubaachieng4668

10 ай бұрын

Even more confusing because a Luo lady from South Sudan said that Luos were Israelites, which would be descendants of Shem. When I told her that some people said it is the Bantus who are Israelites, she said those people are confused because the Bantus never lived in Egypt.

You wrong my brother choline are pure

@KPtravels001

9 ай бұрын

I don't understand. Could you clarify?

Strange, I thought Congo had the fewest Luos. Very surprised they are the most populous group of all the countries.

@cavineowaka6749

11 ай бұрын

I'm surprised as well at their number, we need more confirmation

@eliazali_4200

11 ай бұрын

The Luo in Congo are the Alur. We're divided between Uganda and Congo.

Thank you KP and guest. I now know meaning of Kavirondo (even Luo of Kenya are called Kavirondo) and people have been speculating origin of name. Did you ask him about nubia? There has bn saying they are part of larger Luo groups that remained in egypt. Thank you

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

Nuba are not Luo in origin. Nubia is located between the upper part of Sudan and the lower part of Egypt. The Luos lived in that place especially in Aswan as ancient Nuer with other tribes that included the Nuba. When they left that place the people who remained there includdind the Nuba were concured, arabised, islamized.. Nubians now are a group of people who are moslems and speak a language mixed with Arabic and other languages. The Nubians in Ugandais a combination of Acholi of Sudan, some Alur and other tribes of Sudan.

@kennethotieno995

10 ай бұрын

@@johnmark570 thank you. Does nubia have a meaning? I've seen communities trace origin to around this place. Could it be a term used for all communities that converged here? I like the description of nubians of UG. Is it possible communities which were escaping attacks converged there? On checking the geography, it's located just below the first cataract.. means they were immune to attack from north (cataract is unnavigable part of river). So far, that's the most probable conclusion. Also it's possible were joining Islam to blend in/stay around? 🤷🏾‍♂️ So far the closest I've come to nubia is 'junubia' in Arabic which means 'southern' I don't speak Arabic🤣. Also don't forget this was an area that had received attacks before from Romans, Greeks etc. Possibly attacks from Europe came along river.. So this was safe haven for the majority

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

I one time interracted with Nubians especially those in Bombo and Tororo. In Bombo some them say they were Kakws, Lugbara and others remnants Sudanese stmies used British to fight Germans in the ww1. In Tororo on ace called Juba I got some Alur and Sudanic tribes calling themselves Nubians. What defines them is being Moslem and being black. This their greetings: kaban sunu and you reply kaban Mafi.

What confounds me is how the Ugandan Luos adopted the vocal inflections associated with the Ugandan Bantus even after raiding and taking control of their kingdoms.

@odochokee9856

11 ай бұрын

vocal inflections of Acoli are not associated with Bantu but with ancient nilotic. People who took over Bantu kingdoms lost their Luo tongue

@eliazali_4200

11 ай бұрын

​@@odochokee9856 true. The Alur as well do not have the inflections associated with Bantu at all at all. If there is any influence, it is more likely on the side of the Acoli on the side of those bordering them, and the larger Ma'di (Madi, Lugbara, Kakwa, Lendu, Okebu) though it is very negligible, if at its even there, as the Luo language tends to overpower other languages.

I am Mzee Wandera Salmon Owino. I would like to clarify the flollowing. 1.That the Luo of DR Congo are descended from the twin brother of Nyipir snd Nyabongo called Thiful. They were triplets.The Nyiganda and Angal are true descendants of Thiful. Other groups like Panduru a.nd Jokoth migrated from Uganda. 2. Disagreement among the ancient Nuer while in Egypt caused the separation of the groups that later became the Shilluk and Dknka.Tge current Nuer wre groups thst remained i South Sudan as the royal kkngdom with the royal spear-head was .movng southwsrds in fesr of the marauding moskem Arabs. 3. It is the Acholi and most of the Jonam who have shkfted from the original vocals as they omit prinouncing 'th' in the word nyathi and 'dh' in the word dhyang but the Alur, Jopadhola, Joluo of Kenya, the Acholi Labwor pronounce them properly.The inluence of Madi and Lugbara affected them..

@eliazali_4200

11 ай бұрын

Much appreciation for sharing your wisdom Mzee 🙏🏾

@julietatoo5563

9 ай бұрын

And I was here wondering why other Luo tribes classified the Jo abwor are Karimojong, and yet they speak Luo similar to the tribes you've mentioned.

@johnmark570

8 ай бұрын

The Achol Labwor are Luo in origin. They are called Ethur or Jothur. According to traditions they were the first group to migrate to Uganda from Sudan. The Ateker including the Karamojong found them in the current Karamoja. region. Their Luo language is closest to Dhopadhola, Dh'Alur, Dholuo of Kenya.

So he doesn't classify Langi as Luo and Kumama as Luo. Is he a real scholar?

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

The Kumam are Luo in origin. They are Jopokumu. The Ateker found them there. They tried to assimilate them that is why there is good amount of Ateker words on their language. For the Lango known as Lango omiro and Lango tiro are Luo in origin as they separated from Luos in Gondokoro.

Huyu chalii ni muongo kiasi, Luo of Tz unatutofautisha vp na luo of kenya!!! Tz luo original yao ni siaya kenya hasa eneo la kati bondo na sakwa

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

Ninakubaliana nawe.

Those people from Wau are not really called as the way we called them by the wrong pronunciation. They were called Jo chuol mean we are black people like Jeing mean we are people" but when the first educated person write our language names in the wrong way. You can even see or know that how the names Dinka be come well known to the world. And they are not the really names for the Jeing mean they people and mocjeing means give the people. And they researching people who find one guy that is name called Deng plus his cow color name Gak. Then they write it wrong instead of Deng gak then they write it Dinka.

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

Jurchol is name of the Luoswho went back to Wau from Gondokoro. Jur us Luo word meaning a certain flying insect. I would not think they were the only black people since most of Luos in Sudan are quite dark according to that Luo meaning.

@manyang3869

10 ай бұрын

The word Luo from where I'm is for those who comes from outside areas to the city areas.

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

Can you clarify where come from and whicu Luo come from outside? I am surprised to learn of such group of Luos!

@manyang3869

10 ай бұрын

@@johnmark570 don't let the Education making people massing up with the culture please. .Long time ago According to those whom doesn't know the any language of the city people" are called Jaluo around all over Sudan including Dinka and any others tribe who don't know how write their languages.

@johnmark570

7 ай бұрын

The people called Luos have their origin from the ancestor called Oluo Atyak who was a king in Wau. Those who were around could speak the language but that does not necessarily qualify thema to be called Luos. Not all those people who speak Arabic and live in Arabia are Arabs.Sone people who live with Luos and speak Luo language feel proud to be called Luos or to associate with them. Adequate research has not been made about the Shilluk to trace them to Jop'Oluo or king Oluo Atyak.

Ogot, wadwaro contacts, ji kaka an madwaro luwo wach Joluo. Dhi Uganda nyaka Sudan yot ndi, to nikech isechako, koro itelnwa.

@KPtravels001

11 ай бұрын

I will soon organise cultural tour packages for people to visit luo regions.

@barrycatisoduor790

11 ай бұрын

​@@KPtravels001that will be great

Is Oluoch a Luo name?

@jacksonopwonya6134

4 ай бұрын

The name Olouch or Olwoch exists among the Luo of Acholi in Uganda. It's derived from the word LWOCH which means mist. A child born in a misty morning could be named Olwoch (boy) or Alwoch (for a girl)

@user-fg7bf1nd1m

2 ай бұрын

No no it’s a Agikuyu name from nyadarua from gacheithas place

Then why do Ugandans including the Luos speak in a manner that's unclear, convoluted and close to pidgin despite attaining university education?

@odochokee9856

11 ай бұрын

some people were educated in Bantu areas learnt Bantu languages and cannot speak Luo well. To some extent there is some loss of dialect

@johnmark570

10 ай бұрын

The oriiginal Luo dialect is close to Jopadhola, Alur and the Ugenya Luo of Kenya. The major changes have been due to influences of the neighbours and intermarriages.

@odochokee9856

10 ай бұрын

@@johnmark570 there were two or 3 categories of Luo dialects at the advent of the Luo migration.: 1. Those that could be grouped with the Pari 2. Those that could be grouped with Luo bahrel Ghazel Those following the Pari group in terms of accent and pronunciations include Belanda Bor ,Alur, Padhola, Luo (Kenya, Tanzania). Those following Luo Bahr el Ghazel in terms of pronunciation and accent includes collo, Anyuak Acoli The labwor language of north eastern Uganda is the most conservative of Luo dialects in East Africa. It is the most similar to the original Luo in grammar as well as vocabulary. Labwor has preserved the original Luo grammar as well as plural forms

Did Moses marry a dinka

Interestingly, when he speaks Luo he doesn't have a Ugandan accent but only when he speaks English. The natural shift is amazing. Nevertheless, an Ja Kagwa mar Piny Tanganyika, I don't think the scholar has enough information about the Luo of Kenya and Tanzania. The little he has said about the Luo of Tanzania has some misinformation that he seems not to understand especially on the Kavirondo part. I do not think we are indigenous of Ethiopia though. Greetings!!

@KPtravels001

8 ай бұрын

Hahahaha it's because his Luo is original with almost zero outside influence while Ugandan English is heavily influenced by the dominant luganda language. Just like Kenyan English is influenced by swahili.

@joelathiambo4312

8 ай бұрын

Don’t make me say about my Tanzania English. Anyway, thanks you for doing this. Honestly I watched your video in almost every Luo nation and it feels like I have travelled with you to all those places but it gives me an huge assignment to think about what do we do to honour our Luo ancestors who journey and soldier up to make us to be where we are today?

@johnmark570

8 ай бұрын

The migration story of the Luo of Tanzania written by scholars of early Luo history lacked clarity of their first ancestors and the dating of major events in their movenents and settlement. If you ask a Luo of Kenga or Tanzania who their ancestors is they are not sure. The Kenyan brothers and sisters will tell you Ramogi. If you ask them furthet who Ramogi was you may not get the answer. Ramogi is Owiny, the elder brother of Kadhirondi who evenrually settled in Northern Tanzania. This is a resaerched piece of work. I have reserved the details.