Ludwig Supralite - The New Acrolite?

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Today we're exploring the idea that the relatively modern Ludwig Supralite occupies the same space that the venerable Acrolite did back in the day. Check out a couple sound demos and let me know what you think below.
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  • @jonashellborg8320
    @jonashellborg83202 жыл бұрын

    Great video! i own a Supralite, the 14*8 model, and I love it. Really dense, present tone, easy to tune, sounds cool open, a tiny bit of tape/gel cleans up the overtones and makes is super punchy.

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jonas! Love the 8s!

  • @m42037

    @m42037

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ColeParamore Is the Supralite made in China?

  • @okrafaeq8277

    @okrafaeq8277

    8 ай бұрын

    @@m42037made in Taiwan

  • @ccjacks3
    @ccjacks33 жыл бұрын

    I think this is spot on. Great video.

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, much appreciated!

  • @tskolits
    @tskolits8 күн бұрын

    Great video thanks for posting!

  • @matthewsherman9765
    @matthewsherman97653 жыл бұрын

    I think I need a 8” Supralite in my life.

  • @NEALBABBITT

    @NEALBABBITT

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm waiting for one in the mail that has been retrofitted with a pair of wood hoops.

  • @jonthrustle4920

    @jonthrustle4920

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes sir ya do !!! I got mine around 5 years ago, 14x8 brand new in the box for £130 , I run it with an Evans heavyweight over a hazy emperor with 42 strand wires , it sounds great thro every tuning but both sides cranked up table top tight with those heads and wires it's the most fun you can legally have !!! 😉👍

  • @camthesooner123

    @camthesooner123

    3 жыл бұрын

    Should I get the 6.5 or the 8???

  • @dudemanaric

    @dudemanaric

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@camthesooner123 what sounds best to you? Love my 8

  • @camthesooner123

    @camthesooner123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dudemanaric I got the 6.5 and I really love it

  • @eliasarroyo4929
    @eliasarroyo49293 жыл бұрын

    The black galaxy (blackrolite) snare where made on the 80s thru early 2000s. It has been my 'go to' snare for small gigs.

  • @drumdiscussion7776
    @drumdiscussion77762 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for comparing snares! Supralites are very affordable and great sounding, depending on what sound your looking for. I think they are a well-rounded snare drum for many genres of music.

  • @slimjim1104
    @slimjim11042 жыл бұрын

    My acrolite is one of the few drums I've kept in my rotation forever. Got a nice one with the ludwig era case and all for 100 bucks off a buddy.

  • @drdennsemann
    @drdennsemann Жыл бұрын

    That floor tom sound is beautiful!

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @harryo74
    @harryo745 күн бұрын

    they all sound great , just orderd a supralite .. 14x6 version i believe . Really a great sound for its price point .. wow. I do love the dry crack of the original Acrolite . I'm going to look around for one of those as well .

  • @lauripold5188
    @lauripold5188 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely drums! I have older LM300 and LM302 with bowtie lugs. They feel and sound absolutely awesome!

  • @brianshattuck4476
    @brianshattuck44762 ай бұрын

    Love my 8x14 Supralite!!!

  • @AndrewMasters
    @AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын

    Great vid!

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Andrew!

  • @michaelkrautschneider1096
    @michaelkrautschneider10962 жыл бұрын

    I‘ve got a Supralite in 14x8“ and it‘s really cool. It‘s a special feel to play a deep snare - very punchy and strong. But the Supralite is sensitive too and I‘m sure this will become a modern classic snare drum. If you have the money - buy it! 👍🏻🥁 P.S. I have a new Acrolite (aluminium shell) in 14x6,5“ too. Maybe it‘s a bit more sensitive and got less overtones than the Supra - but I love them both ❤️ I never were a big fan of Ludwig, but they put some magic in their snares. I‘ve owned a Gretsch Solid Aluminium snare which costs 750 € & I don‘t lie when I‘m saying I prefer the two Ludwig models! (I sold the Gretsch - wasn‘t a bad drum, but not as good as the Ls 😉)

  • @rhythmcaster2018
    @rhythmcaster20183 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this video. I understand many KZreadrs always recommend the second hand Acrolite but for whom living outside the US. The shipping cost diminished its best budget snare drum. Even local store would sold Acro for double the price of a brand new Supralite.

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure, much appreciated!

  • @cadetesespaciales

    @cadetesespaciales

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly my thought!

  • @m42037

    @m42037

    Жыл бұрын

    Made in China compared to USA

  • @stevenpurdy2235
    @stevenpurdy2235 Жыл бұрын

    Cole " Do not (ever) say goodbye to your classic Galaxy Acrolite, that drum clearly sounded best in the particular comparison! TY S.R.PURDY 🥁 God Bless 🙏

  • @coalcreeker583
    @coalcreeker5832 жыл бұрын

    I have two Acrolites. One from the 80s I gave $110 for. The other from the 70s I picked up for $65. My favorite drums. Now I want a Supralite.

  • @matthewsherman9765
    @matthewsherman97653 жыл бұрын

    I think they have similar vibe like you said but Supra had more ring to it so not apples and oranges but maybe apples and pears.

  • @EarthtonesCymbals
    @EarthtonesCymbals Жыл бұрын

    I guess I was expecting to be stoked to hear the deep shell on the Supra compared to the Acro but it never happened for me. I am sure, as you mentioned, the difference between steel & aluminum is influential. With that being said...I will have to stick with the Vintage Acrolite for all intent purposes. I think it is really just a better snare drum all the way around.

  • @evanbrownell4832
    @evanbrownell48323 ай бұрын

    I still come back to this video for the floor tom sound, kinda like how you did for the benny video.

  • @DeanMk1
    @DeanMk18 ай бұрын

    Cole - That was a nice comparison between the Supralite and the Acrolite. I gotta wonder if, in the future, the Supralite won't be seen and talked about in the same way we talk about the Acrolite today. ...btw, your Blackrolite dates between the mid 90's and the early 2000's, not the 1970's.

  • @aaronlin6599
    @aaronlin65993 жыл бұрын

    This is great! I would personally love to see the black magic snares compared to black beauties

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good call!

  • @roybeckerman9253

    @roybeckerman9253

    3 жыл бұрын

    Black Magic’s are half the price of Black Beautys.. Great buys..

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@roybeckerman9253 Had one myself for many years, great drums!

  • @fartpooboxohyeah8611
    @fartpooboxohyeah8611 Жыл бұрын

    I had a Ludwi Acrolite 6.5x14 in Black Galaxy (I think was the name of the color). Awesome snare drum. If you can find one today be prepared to pay an outrageous price for it. Even standard Acrolites are now selling for far more than they did when they were new. I don't know if it's so much of a good deal to pay $250-$300 for one, which seems to be about the going price these days. For that much money there are tons of great new snare drums on the market.

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    Жыл бұрын

    A 6.5, really? That's crazy I've never come across that size.

  • @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204
    @ryanforresterrenaissancesa42042 жыл бұрын

    I have five 8x14 snare drums. They are all great.

  • @Chris-sz1fz

    @Chris-sz1fz

    8 ай бұрын

    Which one is your favorite?

  • @aaronwade73
    @aaronwade73 Жыл бұрын

    Thinking I need to get a 14x8 supralite soon

  • @dylanbaldwin7934
    @dylanbaldwin79342 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 13x6 supralite yesterday. Ive had and used an actolite for years and i love it. But i really wanted a high dry drum with a cutting rimshot but also articulate under the lighter touches for ghost notes and rolls. Kind of comparable to a lot of funk and ska but i dont want it too ringy. I was going to get either a piccolo or a side snare at guitar center but this caught my eye. I wanted something smaller in depth for sure i was going to get something a lot smaller. But after playing them all a bit this one seemed to have the sound im looking for especially with a moongel. I bought its and was asked if i wanted the protection plan, i asked back, its ludwig? Its steel? Yes and yes so i said thats insurance enouph. I love it, it cuts like no other.

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, congrats on the new drum!

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant8933 жыл бұрын

    Great video.nice drum for 200.00 and it's ludwig.

  • @BobbyJetty1502
    @BobbyJetty15023 жыл бұрын

    Nothing in this universe will ever replace my 1990 14X6.5 Black galaxy flake Ludwig acrolite.

  • @dnews9519

    @dnews9519

    Жыл бұрын

    You're right they can't be duplicated. I've got a late 60s unfinished aluminum and an 80s black Galaxy and they're both just a joy to play. I've had them for years I think I paid $50 for the aluminum finish and $60 for the black Galaxy and it came with a hard shell case LOL

  • @BobbyJetty1502

    @BobbyJetty1502

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dnews9519 you have no idea how lucky you are, actually yes you do

  • @GolddenWaffles
    @GolddenWaffles3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Black Beauty to replace my Supralite, but I think that the Supralite might be better 😅🔥🔥 It’s really good! Highly Recommended!

  • @Eurodrummer666

    @Eurodrummer666

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know snares are a matter of taste, but your statement is quite surprising! Could you explain what the supra has the bb doesn't?

  • @GolddenWaffles

    @GolddenWaffles

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Eurodrummer666 it’s more wet and has more ring but less snare sensitivity. But I agree, it’s just a matter of taste and hence I probably that’s why I like the Supralite more

  • @Eurodrummer666

    @Eurodrummer666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GolddenWaffles i own the Pearl Ian Paice signature steel snare and it looks pretty similar to the supra. I always wanted to try a brass snare so I was wondering about the bb.

  • @SuperheroJunior

    @SuperheroJunior

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GolddenWaffles I personally like the black beauty and the aluminum supraphonic snare drums more.

  • @CarlosAnglada

    @CarlosAnglada

    10 ай бұрын

    The 6.5 SL is a fantastic drum.

  • @MM-ig1iv
    @MM-ig1iv4 ай бұрын

    I just got the black galaxy acrolite.. wow! not bad for $250

  • @rockerbob949
    @rockerbob949 Жыл бұрын

    I have the 8” and it’s awesome but I still want a Black Beauty

  • @m42037

    @m42037

    Жыл бұрын

    💰💰💰

  • @FrederickMattox
    @FrederickMattox Жыл бұрын

    I've got a 14X8 on order: I'll get back to you in a week.

  • @ArthursSimpleLife
    @ArthursSimpleLife Жыл бұрын

    I notice the lugs fall off occasionally on luwdig entry level snares. need to put teflon tape on every one. or might just get a pearl sensitone.

  • @m42037

    @m42037

    Жыл бұрын

    ROC not USA that's why

  • @CarlosAnglada

    @CarlosAnglada

    10 ай бұрын

    The Supralite is a very hefty drum and has excellent hardware. I've owned Acros, Black Beauties, Supras, etc., and I'm still blown away by the SL.

  • @ronaldzeoli7528
    @ronaldzeoli75282 жыл бұрын

    I have superlite14x8 and love it. Also the 6.5x14 steel yamaha stage custon is also a great snare drum for around 150.check it out

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yamaha makes some killer stuff!

  • @rkaylor5769

    @rkaylor5769

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ColeParamore Same. Yamaha steel snare and it’s awesome.

  • @papalegba6796

    @papalegba6796

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yamaha steel stage custom by far the best value snare out there.

  • @evilhubert
    @evilhubert3 жыл бұрын

    I have a Supralite and a Supraphonic, both 6.5“, same heads (CS) same snares (PS Custom Pro). All lugs are tuned at appr. 280 Hz. I guarantee, you wouldn’t hear the difference when the are freshly tuned. One big difference though: once the Supralite detunes slightly it starts to sound a bit unpleasant whereas when the Supraphonic detunes it starts to sound even better. Might be the steel vs aluminum I don’t know

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great insight! I'd imagine that could have somtehing to do with the difference between the steel and aluminum shell, aluminum being a little more dull and forgiving so when it detunes you get more fatness rather than overtones.

  • @m42037

    @m42037

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ColeParamore Or the Supraphonic is USA compared to roc

  • @AlexPresa
    @AlexPresa3 жыл бұрын

    Bro, I'm sorry but...your KICK TONE. Please tell me your making a video on kick mic placement and mixing a kick drum cause that kick is BEAUTIFUL!!

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 жыл бұрын

    Noted!

  • @dominik4614

    @dominik4614

    2 жыл бұрын

    Audix ? Beta? Sub Bass? Dbx 160? Mmh

  • @JackNiles
    @JackNiles3 ай бұрын

    I would like to hear the Supralite compared to the Black Beauty

  • @NEALBABBITT
    @NEALBABBITT3 жыл бұрын

    Are you filming from evolution?

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was formerly an Evolution room, but I've been in there for about 6 months.

  • @stephenverbo
    @stephenverbo2 жыл бұрын

    that intro is like a Toe band songs

  • @NEALBABBITT
    @NEALBABBITT2 жыл бұрын

    The supralite is better than the acrolite or maybe supraphonic. Everytime I get my supraphonic out for a gig I compare it to the supralite, I got to go with the supralite. It just sounds more solid and sensitive. 🤷

  • @papalegba6796

    @papalegba6796

    2 жыл бұрын

    Worldmax make a very similar drum that's also excellent. The Yamaha stage custom is good too. No need to spend big money on a steel snare imo.

  • @papalegba6796

    @papalegba6796

    2 жыл бұрын

    And i f you're in the UK old Premier 1035/1036 are easy to find for £150-ish, also excellent drums when fitted with the right skins/wires.

  • @ronniek7748
    @ronniek77489 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this video. To me, there is no comparison really. Your vintage acro is far superior over the supralites.

  • @camthesooner123
    @camthesooner1234 ай бұрын

    Supralite such a great drum for cheap

  • @GeoffBosco
    @GeoffBosco Жыл бұрын

    Acrolites are ridiculous right now. Can barely touch one for under $200. Aluminum snares in general are super hot rn. Which makes sense because short of bell bronze/brass, nothing comes close to the qualities you get from them. And, I actually prefer the lighter dryer sound of aluminum to bronze by just a tiny margin.

  • @DarthCiliatus

    @DarthCiliatus

    Жыл бұрын

    I picked one up on ebay this week for $164 after shipping.

  • @GeoffBosco

    @GeoffBosco

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DarthCiliatus That's still a bubble price compared two five years ago.

  • @yobhsiFehT
    @yobhsiFehT3 ай бұрын

    I literally don’t own one drum yet, and I’m already like, “Well, clearly, the answer is to get an Acrolite AND a Supralite 🤷🏼‍♂️” lol/smh Money’s stupid 😝😂🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    3 ай бұрын

    You could get both for less than a Black Beauty if that makes it any easier lol.

  • @kikibeemer5100
    @kikibeemer510011 ай бұрын

    Crap, i want one now

  • @dragocat1
    @dragocat12 жыл бұрын

    An American made Ludwig is where I'll spend my money. Not the the others are Bad.

  • @bruceperkins2921
    @bruceperkins29212 жыл бұрын

    Buy American! Buy Ludwig! Can't go wrong!

  • @markusthedrummer8143
    @markusthedrummer81432 жыл бұрын

    Way too much talking at beginning of video and way too much compression on the mix imo. With that mix, any snare would sound good

  • @ColeParamore

    @ColeParamore

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Markus - thanks for the comment. For your first concern you'll be pleased to know that you can click around the little red/grey bar at the bottom of the video and jump to whichever part of the video you're interested in. For some that's the commentary and for others the demos. As for compression, this is actually a fairly conservative mix. It's a tough balance to strike because everyone wants to hear the snare in a different way. If I use only room mics people want to hear close mics, if I use only close mics people want to hear the room. If I don't use EQ the drum doesn't sound accurate to how it did in the room. This is why I include a demo of the Acrolite as reference. You can use that as a known quantity to compare against. Hope that helps!

  • @toddcapiton6285

    @toddcapiton6285

    5 ай бұрын

    Make your own video then. And use the fast fwd button. Then go buy some Kleenex 😢

  • @m42037
    @m42037 Жыл бұрын

    Ya but the Supralite is made in China yes??

  • @toddcapiton6285

    @toddcapiton6285

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes. Pretty sad, but we’re in so deep now with Chinese “trade deals”. Thanks Kissinger, lobbyist scum, and our spineless government for that. The deficit we experience must be huge. Actually I just looked it up quickly: America experiences the largest trade deficits of any country, $500 BILLION to China alone. All we can afford are $199 snares!!!! FFS. That 8” sounds great, I love steel drums, most of them sound good, or can be made to sound good.

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