Thanks Lawren! Don’t know what I wouldn’t do without your tech vids! So helpful as always. Saves me so much time! 👊🙏

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Anything I can do to help a electronically challenged brother out

I'm a Lowrance fan. Have my new boat waiting to be picked up and the Active Target ready to be hooked up. I'm loving this.

In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens kzread.infoUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.

You do an incredible job at explaining very basic for anyone to understand ,thank you 👍👊

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I am glad the videos help you out

THANK YOU for being quick and to the point. Good info.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

No problem!

ANOTHER great video Lawren! Can't wait to see what Humminbird and Garmin's NEXT technology includes! Competition is good for all of us!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

You and me both!

This is EXACTLY what I've been waiting for! I'm ready to replace all the sonar electronics and trolling motor on my bass boat. Came close to pulling the plug on the Garmin line. However, I really do like the Lowrance Ghost trolling motor better. One thing Lowrance needs to add to their HDS Live screens that Garmin EchoMap has is the ability to quickly zoom into a particular screen in a multi-layout by simply touching or double-touching that section (ie. Map, Sidescan or Downscan) and quickly return to the selected layout by selecting the BACK menu item.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree with that zoom comment 100%!!! That is a great feature in the Garmin's

Thank you Lawren for sharing this information with us. Your perspective I respect and appreciate.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Joel!

I'm a diehard Lowrance fan and this is what I've been waiting for. I actually waited until mid-September to order the Livesight because I was sure they were working on something new. I couldn't wait any longer and ordered it. Now I'm planning on selling the Livesight to order the Active Target. My wife says I get too impatient on things, I guess she's right!!! The only saving grace is that I hurt my back at work the first of October about three days after receiving the Livesight and it is still in the box brand new. Now my back is to where I can go fishing and I'm ready to order the Active!!! Thanks for the video, great job!!!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Lowrance still has a good following of diehards like yourself (and me). This is something they've really needed and I am glad its here!

Thank you for the practical review and breakdown of this.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Your welcome and glad you liked it

Dear Lawren! It s an awasome video, Congratulate from Hungary! i am using HDS Live 12 with active imaging 3-1 transducer, and I am really satisfied with the whole system (had instruments from HDS gen2 so DieHard Lowrance user) and was waiting for the new product.On the first day of the launch I feel pretty good, that we have at least a same quality product than Garmin, but this video convinced me that It might be better..1500USD is a good price, in our Country Hungary ist 2500USD..Which is a little bit strange for me..But the product is awesome! Thank you very much for your good presentation!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes if you buy in any country outside of the US pricing is increased due to local distribution. Glad you liked the video!

Good stuff Lawren! 🎄👊🏼💯

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks Lawren! Been fishing over Lowrance ever since the "green box" and been upgrading every couple of years. Looking to replace my Elite 7 Ti with a larger and higher resolution screen. Disappointed with the Lowrance mapping, for the first time I am looking at other brands. Think that it will be a Solix 12, for iPilot, Autochart and eventually the 360 (once they go to a fixed transducer array).

They should start selling this before black Friday. I just bought the Garmin livescope from you. But I am glad that there is a real competition going on with Garmin dominant the market for so long.

I love Lowrance and I super happy I don't have to go garmin. I can't wait to try it out.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I've always be a Lowrance fan so I'm in the same boat as you

I just got, the elite fs . Can’t wait to try it .

Awesome video man

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Thanks Lawren, great info as we compare the offerings from the big three. I have 2 livesight transducers. One forward on the troller, which I hate, one on the back of the boat that I love! The 40 degree cone angle works well in that application. Looking forward to going Active target for the front of the boat. Thats after I sell my kinds for medical experiments so I can afford it.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I know LiveSight take a lot of heat (from me included) but there are applications like you've mentioned

@deweyknight3969

3 жыл бұрын

I wasn’t thinking about that, if I add this new technology to my front live unit could still run live sight off the back or isi

@deweyknight3969

3 жыл бұрын

Oops, or is it a totally different transducer?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

It's a different transducer and I think you'll be able to run both as the Active Target plugs into the ethernet and the LiveSight into a sonar port

Thanks, you are the best!

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great Video bro!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

Excellent!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

I was ALWAYS a Lowrance guy, but since I sold mine and went to Garmine with Panoptics Livescope, my total fishing experience has been way way better! They’ll have to come up with something better than this to peak my interest. The company’s promo pics and videos ALWAYS look better than the real thing.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Garmin really has done a great job with their units/systems. And they seem to comfortably still leading at this point

I have the mindset that garmin and lowrance are better in certain areas. My plan when the time comes is for a set of each on the bow and console. Garmin for maps, Force TM, and Lowrance for the combined DI and sonar overlay. I think I still like Panoptics better and feel Garmin is ahead in the R&D on that technology. Thanks for the awesome video!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree with the multi-brand thing still. I've run a Garmin and Lowrance set up and I think you'll find the Lowrance is better for GPS. I've found getting right on a Waypoint is easier with the Lowrance then Garmin

Great video as always, I just went to Garmin plus live scope plus a Lowrance Carbon up front, removing Lowrance live sight which was a big waste of money ! I’m hoping Garmin will have a software upgrade to stay ahead now ! This is after being with only Lowrance since the 80’s, the live sight left such a bad impression!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I hear you! Hopefully this wins back a lot of us "Lowrance Guys" that have gone Garmin. We'll see once it's on the water

Exciting to order the upgrade and see ho wthis functions with my HDS-9 Carbon unit. Not excited about rotating a transducer for scout mode, but until they figure it out that is what I will have to do.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yep... Rotating for scout mode isn't as annoying as forward to down. That's an easy software change they could do

I am a Lowrance guy. So glad I waited and didnt add another graph (Garmin for Live scope) to the bow. One 12" screen is enough!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I bet Lowrance is happy about that too :)

@deweyknight3969

3 жыл бұрын

Boll, I was thinking the same thing. I still want to see more independent reviews but by spring I’ll either be adding this to my live unit or spending 3 times as much to add a Garmin system to run upfront with my 12 live.

When Lowrance announced they were coming out with livesight I purchased 2 live 12s to go with my Gen 3 units and waited for the livesight to be offered early spring which turned out to be mid summer. Ounce i finally got he livesight I was extremely disappointed and mad on myself for not purchasing Garmin. I just purchase the 126 sv echo m and the Panoptix to replace a gen3 unit and plan on replacing the other Gen 3 unit in the future. I was in Minnesota in august and fished on a boat that had Panoptix and I won’t be fooled again. I’m glad Lowrance is trying to improve but for me it is too late.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I think there are many in the same position as you!

The only thing that kind of sucks is the extra box. Makes it very difficult for some of us that ice fish to transfer it over to ice fishing mode. Very easy with Garmin.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly!! Would be more convenient for ice anglers with no box

Great, informative video mate. I am a lowrance man with a Live & Carbon in the boat. I have a Minn Kota trolling motor & certainly will look on with interest for feedback videos on this system. If given the thumbs up, I would love to add it to the minn kota.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

That would be a nice setup to add Active Target to

Thanks for the informative reviews. I'm looking to upgrade my Terrova 80lb 60" Minn Kota to the newest version but 112lb due to my boat size: 24' Tracker Fishing Barge. I fish an average of 20 trips annually so with good down and side scan performance can get on the fish regularly. Live scope seems to direct all attention to the screen and that's not why I'm an outdoors enthusiast. My current trolling motor does a decent job but the boat is huge and could use more power in windy conditions. Only issue I've experienced is losing Spot Lock on occasion and a poor installation by Bass Pro Shops. I've read some horrendous reviews on the Ulterra model with the auto store going out and poor customer service from Minn Kota. Also, looking to upgrade my electronics from a Hook9 Lowrance to Garmin unit for networking with the matching trolling motor, mostly for auto contour trolling. I primarily fish for crappie, walleye, sauger and bass on a reservoir in Illinois. With all the mixed product reviews, its very difficult to make an educated decision on product line. I'm under the impression that Garmin leads the market in technology for marine electronics, but have mixed reviews on their trolling motor. What is your professional opinion on switching to the Garmin electronics and trolling motor for a fisherman with my frequency of fishing?

@InDepthSonar

Жыл бұрын

I would agree that Garmin leads the way with sonar right now. Personally I don't find their units all that easy to use when compared with other brands. From the trolling motor standpoint I feel what you have heard is correct. I would get a Lorance Ghost or Minn Kota Ultrex at this point

I am a Lowrance guy, who used to be a Humminbird guy, and I was planning to add a Garmin to my system, even though I am not a big Garmin fan. Not I have a better solution!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I think this is going to start to kill the multi-brand thing going on right now. Especially when Humminbird had Mega Live coming.

Love my garmin

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Who doesn't right!

With these prices, it's more affordable to hire a scuba diver to go fishing with me.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Haha good point. Just don't get them to put them on the hook for you... Didn't some TV fishing show host get busted for that

@boydlittou9446

3 жыл бұрын

Under water camera is cheaper

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

But very different than this :)

@alexanderx33

2 жыл бұрын

@@boydlittou9446 Unless you aren't fishing in crystal clear water.

I have 2 older Elite 5 Chirp units and keen to upgrade to the new FS units. Great to know that I can then later upgrade to Active Target too. I only have a 16ft glass boat so it would be nice to see a Ghost with a lower thrust and price point as well.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I would love to see a 12volt Ghost!

@robertjacobsfishing

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar a 12V/24V option would be great. Ensure that investment can scale!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes for sure!! That would be a great option

To catch up to garmin it would have to be compatible with more units. Livescope transducer works with 8 year old units quite well

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Haha very good point

@richardp.228

3 жыл бұрын

Same with the Birds!

@nickc8629

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Lowrance got me since I just bought Elite Ti2's beginning of 2020...may be time to go to Garmin

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I find Garmin does have a more consistent OS between their unit levels and products like LiveScope are compatible with miss range and high end units. They also are very good at making things backwards compatible.

I wish to hear your thoughts from an on the water comparison. Thank you

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

After using them all now I'd tank them like this. LVS34, LVS32, Active Target................. Way down the line Mega Live. I personally have the Active Target and am very happy with it.

Great information, look forward to trying this technology out. Will there be sufficient stock for 2021?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Lowrance said it'll start to ship in December so stock shouldn't be a problem

Can you please advise, which one is better for deeper waters elite fs 9 or garmin echo 73uhd? I bought fs9 but didnt realized that its not as good for deeper water, (ocean fishing few miles away from shore) ....which one would you recommend for deeper water fishing please? Thanks in advance!

Good video. I really want to see the on water footage as that's what matters. I agree I wish there wasn't a network box. I already have the 3d module box, mainly for side imaging, now I'll need this box networked too. pretty soon I'll need to designate a compartment just for all my Lowrance boxes. I'm wondering If you can still run another transducer on the trolling motor if you have this and if they can produce an image at the same time.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Haha good point with the network boxes. I guess in your case... At least the 3D box functions as a network hub as well. You can run another transducer with active Target at the same time

@Bassmada

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar good to know. Thanks for the reply! 👍

I have always been a lowrance fan and still run my lowrance. Had the garmin livescope for over 2 years now and I don’t think this is even on the same level yet. The one that comes out with a cable that can handle colder temperatures. I know I have a lowrance ice ducer that had this nice cable.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I agree on that. Those ice ducer cables are awesome.

I've never seen a company with customer service worse than Lowrance. I said my last Lowrance would be my last Lowrance.

@danielmoore3352

3 жыл бұрын

That's my main complaint. Knowing that new technology is always going to have bugs its alittle worrisome with the way their customer service is. I do believe that lowrance units are better then garmin's however garmin's customer service is second to none.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

They've got room to improve for sure! Another way they need to catch up to Garmin maybe? :)

@leems1976jl

3 жыл бұрын

Can't complain enough to them. Today I complained so much they sent me a new elite 9fs for my 9 ti2. So I would say they are trying.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear they are trying... But it's too bad you have to fight so much sometimes.

0:55 Am I blind or are the forward and down orientations exactly the same on the trolling motor?

Thanks for the review... It would be nice to see direct comparison with Garmin and Humminbird looking at the same underwater scene. By the way, how does the imaging show shadows (e.g. boulders) when the transducer signal source is at the same point as the receiver? I seems like it would be similar to having the sun directly behind your head... there would be no shadows.

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that is exactly how it works. When you get good a reading it I find you look for the shadows more than anything to get the picture in your head of what is down there.

No way. I’ve been fooled by Lowrance for the last time. A former Lowrance user for 20 years putting up with their outright bs in hopes of them getting it right and actually getting it on the market when they said they would. Garmin from now on.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Lots have switched over and from what I'm seeing most won't switch back. At least the die hard Lowrance guys have something now

Im confused, a different video I just watched this morning said you can bluetooth info to another screen wirelessly on the boat?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Only on Elite Ti2 units

My issue is I have a HDS 9 gen 3 and it is not upgradable to active target yet Lowrance has cheaper models which can be upgraded.

The ti 2 had bad lagging problems when power users had lots of stuff going on at the same time while using wi fi to link. 30seconds at times with no response from the units.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can see that. Would be nice if they just left the wireless for waypoints though. That worked so well.

@timfaulks745

3 жыл бұрын

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Honestly I like it but it doesnt impress me enough to go with what works already. I recently bought two Garmins to out fit the boat over the older Lowrance HDS gen 3 units I had. Either way, if I wanted a Live view, I wouldve had to buy completely new units for my boat. So, I decided to go Garmin because I know they have it right and theres room for their rebuttle and improvement now like you mentioned in the video.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

It's going to be interesting to see if all the people Garmin converted from Lowrance will see a reason to switch back now. I guess it all depends on what Garmin comes out with next

@timfaulks745

3 жыл бұрын

See here's the thing, a lot of weekend anglers don't have the money, to just drop $4k on a set of units, when they recently upgraded...

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

A quality price point real time sonar would be great. And not like the LVS12. A really good one to help get the anglers on a budget into this technology

Nice to have but i still enjoy the good old days of going out fishing and the surprise that lands on the boat. That is fishing. With the new technology it more playing games and no fish can hide or have a fighting chance

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

It has changed for sure, but there are still times you see them and can't catch them. Which almost makes it more frustrating

@Fjb.trumpwon

5 ай бұрын

Who cares just a tool to help find fish rather than fish empty water all day . Time is short life is short .

I have a minkota with spot lock and lorance helix 7 doesn’t that require not using the trolling motor shaft?

@InDepthSonar

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you would have to use the trolling motor shaft

What do they have as an option to mount on the transom? Lots of guys using livescope and panoptix for down rigging. Hopefully lowrance comes out with a transom mount bracket

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

They do have an optional transom mount for it. Keep in mind the narrow angle of the transducer though when used with downrigging. Their LiveSight product would be better for that application. Most Garmin users run the PS30 over the LiveScope for down rigging

Havent seen lowrance vs hummingbird side scan as far as the difference in Definition in seeing fish

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't compared them side by side, but I think Humminbird would win. Be an interesting video though

How does it work in anchor mode on the trolling motor for viewing?

@InDepthSonar

Жыл бұрын

It will work great as long as what you want to look at is directly ahead of you and you're holding in a strong wind lol. Other than that you're trolling motor would be spinning all over and you'll be looking where it wants.

What comes after 3D? A day will come when we have goggles with live 3D sonar displays lol.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Garmin tried the glasses for digital data like wind info for sailors so it's certain possible. Raymarine has augmented reality in their Axiom units. Soon we'll be robot fishermen lol

Hummingbird announced 2 weeks ago they are working on theirs. But like you said they are just catching up. So while they have been working on catching up. Garmin is still leading the way. You know Garmin didn’t just make Panoptix and call it good lol.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Gonna be interesting to see Garmin's next move

Do you know if the stop sonar function at the 7:00 min mark also stops side scan and down imaging or just the active target?

@InDepthSonar

Жыл бұрын

It will only stop AT. The other sonar channels can be stopped the same way on their page

@FMyers123

Жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar Thank you!

0h, I found your channel and Subéd and Liked too.....👍👍👍

@InDepthSonar

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

Cool stuff, but still skeptical... factory images are never real world, and garmin has years of experience over any of the other brands. Will be waiting to see what garmin comes out with next!

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

They are taken from the real world, but you don't know if they have been altered so I see your point. Also, a picture can be framed at just the right time to make it look good.

@Michaelpruis

3 жыл бұрын

I should clarify, even way back when livescope dropped the factory images looked incredible... real world with waves, trolling motor moving around and user settings... you get my point lol

Good luck getting that to mount on a kayak. lolz

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Easy to do these days with all the aftermarket mounting options

Bought the live units when they came out hoping this was the "live" they were going have the 1st go around. Glad I saved money and didn't buy the gameboy transducer. I'm in on this one tho.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!! This one is the one to get for sure

Waiting on Hummingbird development

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like they have most of their details it now for Mega Live. And looks like they got rid of the beam stitching

I was a diehard 30 plus year Lowrance angler until livesight burnt me on them and I went to garmin, too bad they didn’t do the grand slam as you suggested...it’s never good to play catch-up

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Sad too because they were #1 for so long.

Hey Lawren! I sent you an email with a few questions in regard to GPSMAP software updates. Can you take a peek and help me out. Thanks.

Good video. I need to see real video from someone using it and not pictures from the manufacturer.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of that out there. Lowrance did a webinar yesterday live in the water with it.

I recently got back into fishing and unfortunately bought the Elite FS9 without doing lots of research. A decent unit, but am disappointed with the sidescan compared to Humminbird (lower frequency, I guess). Not sure what to do now. I'm tempted to switch to Garmin at this point since it appears they are generally more innovative.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Garmin is leading the way right now for sure. The Elite FS 3 in1 transducer is pretty good for not being CHIRP transducer. I agree though that Humminbird Mega SI is best (but their Helix units are so annoying to use).

@daved2403

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar Thanks for the quick response! Are the Solex units any better to use than Helix? Might be crazy, but now I'm tempted to get a Humminbird for side image on the console, then Garmin live scope in front and put my lowrance fs 9 next to it up front for regular sonar, chart, etc?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly that's the best set up these days. A friend on mind did that and it's loving it. Personally I don't like the solix. They are clunky and slow. If take the non touchscreen Helix over the Solix

HI, I'm wondering IF this model Lowrance is still basically on the TOP? so to speak....I used to fish back years ago and, and Now I just bought me a used Bass Boat again and getting ready to wet-a-line.

@InDepthSonar

Жыл бұрын

Yes currently this would be their top of the line Live Sonar

If i read my owners manual correctly the FS does connect wirelessly just have to turn those settings on

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen that in there? What page?

@bradpoole8933

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar page 221 and also I have 4 ports on mine but in all fairness I just bought mine and they may have got some feed back and changed things on the elite fs I bought

@bradpoole8933

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar When it comes to the ports i misunderstood what you said. I watched your video again and now understand what you where talking about the network port. really enjoyed your video

Hi Lawren , will the be compatible with a Simrad NSS Evo3 ?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

At this point I don't think it is

will active target works with a Gen 3 Lawrance?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

No. HDS Carbon it newer

Any ice bundle coming up?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I've asked the question to Lowrance but haven't had anything confirmed yet

Big disappointment you need the box. I was really hoping this was going to be easy to transfer from the boat to hard water. I am glad however this will work with my Carbon units.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed on the box. I'm surprised that Lowrance made it work with Carbon, but that's nice for Carbon owners

Yeah I’ll be waiting for some independent use videos to see how it performs. Not sure if it lives up to the hype

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%

@timfaulks745

3 жыл бұрын

It don't

@No_mans_flies

3 жыл бұрын

@@timfaulks745 don’t what?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure he thinks "it don't" live up to the hype

@No_mans_flies

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar yeah ok, well I guess that’s understandable after the whole livesight debacle. I really hope it does live up to the hype, was the whole reason I bought live 12s when they came out.

I troll for Musky with kicker motor and remote steering and throttle. Trolling motor is not deployed to steer. Have an HDS Live 12 on dash and HDS Live 9 on bow thru trolling motor. How could I utilize the Active Target real time? Troll between 3 and 5 MPH

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Most guys trolling prefer the LiveSight transducer because it is a wider beam. That will help you pick up more. The active Target is narrow so you get the detail, but you don't cover as much. They are going to have a transom mount for the active Target so that would be best if you plan to get it for your application

Not completely impressed, but a step in the right direction. Great video !

@retlasnoj

3 жыл бұрын

What would impress you? Just curious.

@zhilinSKYfilms

3 жыл бұрын

I agree- can’t be impressed with something that is already on the market.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yep it is hard to be surpass first place. But certainly a good addition for Lowrance

@zhilinSKYfilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar i will wait and see Mega Live sonar in action.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I can't wait to see what they have

🎊🎉🍾I just made the investment ,went with 9 inch and I can’t wait to get it and put it on my boat🔥🔥

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Hope they start shipping these soon

@kenmccarthyfishing

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar Tackle Warehouse said it should be in stock 1/4/21 👏👏👍

That system looks great but do you have to have a depth finder also with the system’s you talked about

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

This works on HDS Live and Carbon and the new Elite FS units

It's licensed.by garmin to lowrance and johnson/hummingbird. That's why the same price. The hardware is the same, don't get caught on the look.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Wonder why nobody is licensing 360 from Humminbird? You'd think the others would want that technology in trade for this?

I have units that look like the Carbon Unit, how can I be sure before I spend the money? Thanks

@OSUburton

3 жыл бұрын

It should say HDS Carbon on your splash screen when you turn the unit on. Or you can go to pages -> settings -> system -> about and it should say HDS Carbon.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Do what Aaron said!

I just bought a Garmin ECHOMAP UHD 93sv for $595 with a 54gt transducer. Until the other brands get their compatible fish finders in compatible price range it is a no brainer. Yes I get that was a Black Friday sale which is sad at this point all of this stuff is insanely over priced. Once all the people with crazy diposable incomes get these units. They will have to drop prices or go under. You will nevwr get the average fishermen to drop 12k to rig out thier boat. I get this stuff is new and I know at one point a 65inch tv or a computer that cost 4k you can get for 350 now. That is what needs to happen to these devices to bring them into the main stream.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

You're right that the costs have to come down. Even to $999 USD would open it up to so many more anglers

@timfaulks745

3 жыл бұрын

Well said !!! I totally agree...

@coleedits1288

3 жыл бұрын

Not on either side of the fence here but maybe not all anglers should have it.... it’s a pretty steep advantage

I’m a Lowrance guy but all this playing catch-up is getting old. It doesn’t appear that there’s any significant advancements over livescope. It seems like they just set out to match what garmin has on the market not to be a leader. I could understand business strategy if they we going for volume sales and pricing products for less than the leader, but nope. Lowrance is stuck on making max profit off of each unit and then not backing up their products when people have issues. Lowrance also seems to ignore the ice fishing market imo. They would have sold many more units by putting together ice videos of it in action. Maybe this was because panoptics was cheaper. After owning 10 different Lowrance units I see no advantage to buying another one.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with your ice market comments and most of the rest...I think Lowrance really needs to remember where they came from more than anything! When you think of it they pretty much started the LCD screens on ice over flashers with the X67c ice machine.

They haven't caught up to Garmin, because it IS Garmin LiveScope. Lowrance licenses the use of it from Garmin. Livesight was Panoptix. Unless someone can point to a Navico patent showing otherwise. Garmin holds the patents and IP on the technology.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Lowrance does need to innovate more, but I see this as a good step for them

@RunFishBrad

3 жыл бұрын

*Edited for clarity That’s not true. Lowrance develops their live sonar in-house so calling this a Garmin product is incorrect

@riccochet704

3 жыл бұрын

@@RunFishBrad Yes, they do. LightSight was 100% licensed from Garmin. Garmin holds the patents on the tech.

@riccochet704

3 жыл бұрын

@@RunFishBrad Furthermore, patent database is searchable online. Please post a link to Navico's patent on LiveSight or Active Target.

@gregdutton8219

3 жыл бұрын

@@RunFishBrad You should delete your comment. I thought Riccochets comment was dumb but yours is just wrong. Low and Bird have both sued Garmin and the three brands have cross licensing agreements.

Do you really have to rotate the transducer on the trolling motor for different views?! That's not gonna work for many people.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Garmin is exactly the same

$2000au. Solar panels install or live sonar! Choices choices

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Live sonar!!!!!

I'll wait until I see some videos from fisherman on the water before I make up my mind. Nice video though, thanks.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

We're starting to see a lot of on the water footage come out. It looks good

I think before they go any further made they should improve on tech support. I have been using Lowrance for years, have three 12s on my boat. My last call to for support was my carbon unit water temperature problem showing 118 degrees and true water temp was 56 degrees. Support tech talked to me as like I was a first grade student and I let him know I did not appreciate that. Would not believe what I was explaining what I was seeing on my menu screens. I been teaching Lowrance to a lot of people on the water l am been using Lowrance 20 plus years. Long story short I have started replacing my units with Garmin due to tech support issues and not product related, love the product.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I've found the same especially when taking to their East Coast office. It's like just be nice and helpful... Is that really hard?

Will it be compatible with my Gen2 touch HDS12? And work with my nema 2000 backbone?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, only goes back as far as the HDS Carbon. Also it's Ethernet to a compatible unit and doesn't work through NMEA2000

@jamieharmon7379

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar well that's a shame. They most likely lost a sell with me and a few others.

@jamieharmon7379

3 жыл бұрын

Great video though amd thank you for a fast response to my questions!

Humminbird Mega Live already up for preorder, released in March. Checks most of the boxes you were mentioning.

@WillCory

3 жыл бұрын

Where is this preorder at?

@mattschindler6741

3 жыл бұрын

@@WillCory only at Russell marine products its 1500 and I called last week and the had 75 people on pre orders. And u have to pay in full up front

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Most place are taking pre-orders or getting your name on a wait list

Can you mount it to the actual boat?

@InDepthSonar

2 жыл бұрын

They do sell an optional transom mount kit but it's not ideal as it's too hard to rotate

Garmin and Lowrance both need a 360° version! Neither Live scope or Active Target replace that

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

For sure!

Looks hyped up from the little images they actually released. Everything looks very grainy and dark, I'm assuming these were the absolute ideal shots they could get. We'll see what real world images look like. I'll stick to my HDS units with the Garmin for LS.

I was geared toward buying an Active Target system, but your spiffy last remarks makes me hesitate. I wonder what the technology will be like in just a couple of years from now?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

That was just a guess when I posted this video... But since then I have found a document online outlining a patent request from Garmin for a 3D Real-time sonar transducer. So that looks like it is in the works.

@mickemike2148

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar Wow!

So I have a lowrance elite 7 ti will this be compatible with my unit

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

No only the units mentioned in the video will work. This connects though ethernet and there is no ethernet port on the Elite Ti units

@BackwoodWayz

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar well that dumb. I bought this unit when livescope was already on the market? Think I’m going to be making a switch cuz they have dropped the ball with this one. How can you make something that’s not compatible with all current running units? And I know the elite 7 ti is a little old but like I said I bought it brand new last year from lowrance and thought it had everything I needed for future upgrades. Clearly I was wrong and gave my $600 to the wrong company

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

It's not compatible because the Elite Ti units don't have an Ethernet port on them. You physically cannot connect Active Target to them. So it's not dumb, it's reality. The Elite Ti units are priced cheaper than the HDS units for reasons like this.

@BackwoodWayz

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar no it’s still dumb

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Yep dumb alright..........

I still run Lowrance in my boat but after watching this video I think they are still behind and if I do upgrade I think I would not go with Lowrance and that does not make me happy. Why does this company keep cutting their own throat

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

It's hard to regain first place they held for so long in the 60s 70s 80s 90s and part of 2000s when you don't have innovative products and are just following the leader. I feel like we are slowly seeing a change with them... But they need to really blow our minds with a product like Garmin did with Panoptix

@tobinlakeguideservices

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar I understand but as a company I wouldn’t put out a product that wasn’t up to par just to try. Hope this last attempt will look better with some live on the water videos in the future. I’m not jumping ship just yet

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! This gets me excited about Lowrance again, but still wish it was more than it is

Yall Check out the Facebook group I created that is all about Active Target! facebook.com/groups/3253194111453323/?ref=share Tune in to keep up with the latest! I'll try to get the videos in the page as they are released here in the coming months as everyone stays receiving their orders...

✋😎👍

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

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Can it network to two HDS Lives on a NMEA network?

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Nope can't do it on NMEA2000, but it will on Ethernet

@harrillwiggins1375

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar So.... Since I already have an Ethernet cable between them to share maps, the Active Target should also be shared? Thanks for the help

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

@@harrillwiggins1375 Yes, you'll just need to plug the Active Target into 1 unit through Ethernet

@harrillwiggins1375

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonar Thank you sir!

@nickc8629

3 жыл бұрын

@@InDepthSonarsimilar question but can you share way points between the Elite FS and an Elite Ti 2?

We need a transducer to deploy dynamite

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

To expensive to me because I don’t have that money I have my aqua vu 7i HD I can see fish under before I can drop the bait down

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

It's an expensive tool for sure.

It's a revolving door every couple months they gonna come out with better stuff it's just how much of your money are you willing to keep throwing at catching a fish. That in itself takes the enjoyment out of fishing for me.

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Costs sure don't seem to be going down for sure. Amazing technologies whether you use them or not.

No birds until they fix gps lag

@InDepthSonar

3 жыл бұрын

Haha couldn't agree more