Thank you for vid; very informative. I didnn't know what ratting was.

When your in the station you can check the map with the players active in the last 30 and ships lost in the last 30. Doing it over several days can find those pockets that just dont see much traffic. Works well for mylong period solo mining ops.

@Winkkin

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, if its isk you want, buy 500 plex for 39.99. Price 'em to sell and they'll get you 2,700,000+ each over 3 hours while you go mine. Instant billionaire.

Oh man, brings back memories. I was hunting these buggers in an incursus :D Rats hardly hit once I got up close but it took some chipping...

Right-click menu has the asteroid belts always in name order, no need to switch overview constantly.

OK, amongst the many errors in this video is one huge one when it comes to belt ratting. The narrator comes across a low value spawn, says it's not worth his time and warps off.... How exactly are you going to get anything better to spawn if you don't kill the crap spawns???? I mean I know some people just jump through endless systems looking for that one good spawn but someone who is new to belt ratting in low will die doing that in a vexor lol. If you want more chance of getting high value Mordhu's and clone soldier spawns then find a small quiet pocket of a few 0.1 or 0.2 low sec systems and learn it like the back of your hand, make safes ect. Then relentlessly smash everything in the belts over and over again. Vexors are kind of meh for doing this. Really you want something fast and agile with high dps. Stabbers work really well and once you have got enough money and skill points you can move up to the real King of the belts, the Cynabal. The Cynabal is one of the best belt ratters due to its high dps, agility, speed and warp speed bonus. The high dps let's you kill rats fast, the speed helps you dictate distance, the agility means fast align times and the warp speed bonus means you save time warping. All of this adds up to a ship with great hit and run ability, which for belt ratting is what you want 😉

@mas0ny149

5 жыл бұрын

Have u got fits for both the stabber and the cynabal? I'm wanting to try belt ratting and I heard drones were good cause u can afk rat, but I'm skilled mostly into mimatar and both ships uv mentioned I can train up in a day or so.

@bobar84c

4 жыл бұрын

Cynabal cant kill mordus battleship that drop barghest bpc

@alanwatts8239

Жыл бұрын

​@@bobar84cNeither can a Vexor lol

Nice guide. Don't forget the Mordus Legion rats that drop the Mordus Legion ship bpcs. They only spawn in lowsec. The frigate can be soloed by almost anything (drops the Garmur bpc). The Cruiser is a lot tougher. Don't try to kill it unless your ship is well tanked and put out decent dps. It drops the Orthrus bpc, though. If you encounter the battleship, just run. They all scram you btw. Another thing I do while rating in lowsec is I loot the battleships and battlecruisers and reprocess the loot for minerals. After a while i collect the loot in a hauler. Just a little extra income.

@realhitvz5573

6 жыл бұрын

I actually saw their cruiser once, i managed to kill it but didn't have the presence of mind to hit that record button to get it in a video. Pretty rare spawns from what I can tell

@maomaomaimaimao

Жыл бұрын

I got curious since I've never seen a shop like thar before and got warp scrambled (I died in my super cool epic cormorant)

Heard recon ships don't show on the d-scan. Just something to worry about.

You can use a destroyer to orbit at 500 you need about 100 dps to Break their tank

Great informative video! one question, how do you deal with gate camps without a cloak?

It you want to make a profession out of LS Ratting, DED, etc, just train into a Stratios or another Covert Cloaked ship with at least 400 DPS. It will give you so many options to play in LS and Null. I've yet to be caught in LS with a covert cloaked ship during my 10 years of playing. Almost always got caught over time in a non-covert, mostly at camps.

I've been doing this for a while too, but now people are catching on and have been almost caught a few times doing this.

Don't trust dcan 100%, combat recon ships will not show like the Curse and will not help against covert ops cloaked ships like the Stratios. In a belt never stay at warp in point, burn off if you warped in at 0 km, stay aligned to a station or citadel and keep moving, that's the best way to stay "safe" ratting.

@sasnycon

6 жыл бұрын

There is no way to stay safe on the belts with enemy in the systems. I will catch this guy 100 out of 100 times. Why there are not many targets like this in our systems :(

@WyMustIGo

2 жыл бұрын

Staying aligned with a station or point does NOT make you enter warp any faster at all, it is a MYTH. The *ONLY* way to speed up an align is to not only ALIGN with the point, BUT you must be moving exacty towards that point (if your vector of travel is NOT exactly aligned, the speed will not be any faster at all). In fact, you can face 180 degrees away from a station and it will take the same amount of time to warp. You definately have to be moving, but if you are not moving in the aligned direction there is no fast align. Why do people keep this myth going?

@extrmeS4

2 жыл бұрын

@@WyMustIGo I agree 100%. But with my experience, each time I have warped off to a safe and align to a next point, my ship automatically starts moving in the aligned direction making the warp off if required almost instant. Only way it won't work is if you manually stop your ship, in my opinion. Fly safe.

@WyMustIGo

2 жыл бұрын

@@extrmeS4 What I described was already proven to be how it works by the developers. So people "imagine" this, but it has no impact at all.

you could afford to do a lower DPS if you decide to take specialised equipment to use against the rats for example this guy was hunting guristas rats, their primary weakness is kinetic damage he took gallente drones that do mostly thermal with some kinetic damage

I made pretty good bank doing this and DED in low using a Domi with sentries

OMG l didn't thinked do Belt Ratting! 50m~100m isk/hr?! great..!! l can't wait do this!! thx!

can u do that any asteroid belt? i use drone vexor but my damage done its not so much then u have

great video and all but like can you copy for fit into the description

Isnt missing running or mining yield more isk? or whats the problem with doing those?

yup agree i do this with a thrasher using faction ammo i get 320 dps,this gets the job done pretty easy against the clone transporter

VNI one of the best faction cruisers and at an affordable price! But if you can't afford several, suggest you use a regular vex until you find a nice spot and get the hang of it :) or even a tristan if the rats aren't tough enough

I am an Alpha (3 months in) and I average about 500 to 800 mil loot per week ratting in LS in an Incursus frigate. All clones are not a problem including transporters and battleships. Takes a little longer to kill them but once I am under their guns, I take zero damage orbiting at about 1,300 mtrs (optimal for my blaster fit). Only issue is gankers, I lost a couple of ships when I started ratting in LS mainly due to not understanding the correct use of d-scan and the importance of WATCHING local and creating safe spots. Since getting that under the belt, I have never been caught again. Started with T1 fit and once skilled properly, I now run a T2 fit with about 200 DPS. Just to illiterate what a good fast, small sig radius frigate can do, I accidentally engaged a Mordu's special warfare unit commander (not having a clue what it was other than it's a battleship...lol) and I killed plenty before. I was locked webbed and scrammed. I was orbiting under his guns, no way out and just kept shooting. Took me almost 35 minutes but I surprisingly broke his shield and eventually got the kill and a Barghest BPC for my incredibly ignorant and LUCKY effort. Never underestimate the power of a frigate :)

@conq.mane1725

2 жыл бұрын

hey, can u share ur fit on that frigate? i would really want to give it a try :)

@extrmeS4

2 жыл бұрын

@@conq.mane1725 hey no problem man, I am sure more experienced players will have a more refined fit. This fit is for ratting not for PVP as I don't bother with a web or a scram...no need. With clones, never approach directly, they will melt you. Manually pilot in with a spiral, AB on and repper on, you will get hit but the damage is manageable. Once in orbit range AB off. My orbit is set at 1000m, with the AB off I orbit virtually on my blasters optimal range at 1350m. I generally pop my AB off once I am under 10km range and hit orbit. Clones will hit you in your orbit but intermittently. Just pulse the repper when needed to manage cap. Battleships, I don't bother spiraling in to orbit range, the frigates sig radius is too small for BS's to track effectively. Once in orbit under their guns, they never hit me again. Drone is just for pirate frigates, it pretty much takes care of them while I concentrate on the bigger ships. Use a drone specific for damage to the pirates you are fighting of course. I fight Serpentis (kinetic/thermal). Your skills on CPU and Power Management need to be skilled to L5 otherwise you will have issues with power grid and CPU. To run T2 Blasters and Void ammo you will need to be skilled up to Small hybrid turrets V & Small Blaster Specialization I. If you don't have that you can substitute with Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I and antimatter charges (preferably faction). Less DPS but they get the job done, be it slower. This fit is cap stable as long as you don't run the AB and repper together, which you never need to do while fighting. AB should always be off. Well in my opinion anyway. Always watch local and use d-scan religiously in LS. Have those safe locations setup so you can run when needed. That's it enjoy :) It is a simple build to run and manage and loads of fun. High Slots: Light Ion Blaster II (x 3) Use Void Ammo S (T2) Medium Slots: 1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Small Cap Battery II Optical Compact Tracking Computer (Tracking Speed Script) Low Slots: IFFA Compact Damage Control Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Compact Multispectrum Energized Membrane Small Armor Repairer II Rig Slots: Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Charges: I carry T2 Void ammo (7000 rounds) Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S (5000 rounds) An extra tracking speed script Drones: Caldari Navy Hornet or a T2 Hornet x 1 (Kinetic Damage) for Serpentis Rats.

What is this fit?

And then you encouter a acendency orthrus

Sad that no one plays like this anymore. Nowadays all the ratters sit in dead end null systems and refuse to undock if there's anyone non-blue in local. There's no good reason to rat in low sec and risk your ship when you can go to null sec and get better rewards without any risk.

I do this in a confessor the wh c2 fit much faster and you arnt replacing drones or pay for ammo

@shaggymanson5375

7 жыл бұрын

i also kill evrything to promote more spawns i look for clone soilders faction rats and mordus legion rats

Do those named rats show up in the d-scan ?

damn i miss the days of BS spawn chaining in null. i chained several systems of belts with high bounty battleships and blapped them in a nano talos (back when those where real good) and when i had to grind sec stat i did one high bounty bs in each system in a pocket, so i got the boost to the sec stat for each system (dont think you can do that anymore never mind the BS chaining not being a thing eighter) :\

how do i get my directional scanner like that... to appear and pretty much only show players

@kazoosc

6 жыл бұрын

Brandon there are guides and You Tube videos about how to use Dscan effectively with Overview settings ... kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6l10smQm6uflJs.html is the first one I found and EVE University has some tutorials ... www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=eve+university+dscan&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

i'm making fast ISK my using a comorant. it works and kills the escort ships in 10-20 seconds :P

what about the Mordu’s Special Warfare Unit Commander that gives you a Barghest Blueprint that why you kill all the rats so he and his buddys come

@alanwatts8239

Жыл бұрын

He's simply too hard to kill.

Does he not realize that you have to farm your belts? You kill the crappy spawns and only kill the highest bounty of the good ones

2020 i do this a thrasher destroyer np

[Vexor, Vexor] Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Damage Control I Reactive Armor Hardener Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 50MN Microwarpdrive I Medium Cap Battery I Dual 150mm Carbide Railgun I Dual 150mm Carbide Railgun I Drone Link Augmentor I Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I Medium Anti-Thermal Pump I Ogre I x5 Plutonium Charge M x2000

The Catalyst rarely lets me down when ratting in lowsec. I kill everything btw.

@slycooper1415

4 жыл бұрын

We all do except this guy

What ammunition do you use?

@realhitvz5573

7 жыл бұрын

In this video I was using Antimatter M charges, however since most of your damage comes from drones it doesn't matter too much.

@Thebluewind3

7 жыл бұрын

Can you do it in alpha? I do not think there is any heavy drone we can buy, which make it more difficult.....

@realhitvz5573

7 жыл бұрын

Thebluewind3 I have not tried this as alpha. I thought at least a few ranks of heavy drones were open for you but if that is not the case this would be much harder. It is probably possible but you would need a different ship.

@spelattack

7 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure alpha clones in gallente can do heavy drones up to lvl3

@Thebluewind3

7 жыл бұрын

Just a small problem with that theory, I can´t train "heavy drone operation"

Don't have to worry about the probing ship that can light a blops cyno, eh?

@jokerash

5 жыл бұрын

Deveyus who the hell will blops drop a vni? Haha

@LCDqBqA

4 жыл бұрын

Cyno for a 60mil kill?

can yhis be done anywhere or only gurista space?

@realhitvz5573

7 жыл бұрын

Tdef Bigley it can be done anywhere, you will want to change your fit slightly to adapt to a different factions damage types

@uhdude34

7 жыл бұрын

Realhitvz ill have to try it sometime, the .1 and .2 area around where I live tend to be camped really hard

@spelattack

7 жыл бұрын

If the place is being camped move to null like providence it is kind of a safe haven for people wanting to get away from fights

@realhitvz5573

7 жыл бұрын

Oliver Stegert I'm afraid these enemies spawn only in low sec, null sec ratting is also profitable but the methods differ

@jeroenbakker1425

6 жыл бұрын

im ratting in providence but those sansha rats are anoying

Im in a good spot in hi sec, tons of rats and no gankers. The problem is, cant get modules or ships or anything else around here. You got to bring all that in. The Carriers want exorbitant amounts of ISK to haul a couple things, its nuts. Funny too is, the Moon rocks only come out certain times so the mining here is cruddy as well. No better than normal hi sec.

fit?

@realhitvz5573

7 жыл бұрын

2 medium rail guns Drone Link Augmentor 2 Cap Recharger II 50mn MWD Medium Cap Battery 3 Drone Damage Amplifier II Medium Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nanoplating (Damage Control would probably be better here) Reflexive Armor Hardener 2 Anti-Kinetic Pump Anti-Thermal Pump (these should be specific to the faction whose space you are in)

@hamrocksco1

7 жыл бұрын

thank you and thanks for the video really helps out.

@skinnymarauder333

6 жыл бұрын

Realhitvz How do you have 600 dps for the two turrets?? I have three of those on right now with the same charges and I only get 135 dps.

@cristianday7372

5 жыл бұрын

@@skinnymarauder333 its the drones

i actually destroyed those even with Tristan and Algos :D just need to warp close enough. And ya it takes a loong time. P.s. ok definitly not Tristan (just tryed it again... 107dps not enough >.

These are the people I hunt in low and null. I know you are doing this to be informative but, don't let people know where you are doing this.

@sartte

5 жыл бұрын

lol i know the uemon system that guy goes to, legit death zone, i've lost a ship there, this guy must have been logged on at a time where no one else was there.

Microwarpdrive it's oversize

I did this in my Ishtar and made a fair amount of isk. Another great way to make isk in lowsec is to farm the besieged covert research facility. You'll need good dps (700+) and considering that they scram you, you'll need a well tanked ship in order to survive. Definitely not for the faint hearted, but still loads of fun!

@alfeuro334

5 жыл бұрын

Could you share a fit pls?

@gruminmor

5 жыл бұрын

@@alfeuro334 kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6afu81xY6zIaKg.html this should cover everything you need.

@gruminmor

5 жыл бұрын

I did not use his implants, so essentially they're not needed. But I did use some repping boosters, cause if you get 5 battleships that scram you, you'll need all the repping power possible. Thankfully they aren't hard to kill so it doesn't last long. FYI, focus the ship's that don't have any bounties as they hit the hardest but are the quickest to die.

"depending on luck." yeah, crap idea of making isk being dependant on something fickle af.

@r0yce

4 жыл бұрын

Miner spotted.

@jule16ar

2 жыл бұрын

@@r0yce Damn that burns, thanks for the laugh

The epithal is not bait, it is most likely in a pos, also you forgot to pick Up your "expencive" drones

Or just buy a heron, fit it for exploration and check out 0-0 anomalies, each relic site u will find is going to give u 10-20million..

Ha, while watching this, I was ratting in a system just 2 jumps from you

That fit is not that good to be honest.. For newbros [Vexor, VNE - Vexor Newbro Edition] Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Prototype Energized Thermal Membrane I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Drones to taste Train these skills and you will be cap stable.. [Vexor Newbro Edition - Skills] 1. Gallente Frigate I (16 minutes, 40 seconds) 2. Gallente Frigate II (1 hour, 17 minutes, 38 seconds) 3. Gallente Frigate III (7 hours, 19 minutes, 2 seconds) 4. Gallente Destroyer I (16 minutes, 40 seconds) 5. Gallente Destroyer II (1 hour, 17 minutes, 38 seconds) 6. Gallente Destroyer III (7 hours, 19 minutes, 2 seconds) 7. Gallente Cruiser I (41 minutes, 40 seconds) 8. Energy Grid Upgrades II (1 hour, 17 minutes, 38 seconds) 9. Hull Upgrades III (7 hours, 19 minutes, 2 seconds) 10. Energy Grid Upgrades III (7 hours, 19 minutes, 2 seconds) 11. Drone Avionics II (38 minutes, 50 seconds) 12. Drone Avionics III (3 hours, 39 minutes, 30 seconds) 13. Mechanics III (3 hours, 39 minutes, 30 seconds) 14. Drones II (38 minutes, 50 seconds) 15. Drones III (3 hours, 39 minutes, 30 seconds) 16. Light Drone Operation I (8 minutes, 20 seconds) 17. Drones IV (20 hours, 41 minutes, 50 seconds) 18. Drones V (4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds) 19. Heavy Drone Operation I (41 minutes, 40 seconds) 20. Medium Drone Operation I (16 minutes, 40 seconds) 21. Medium Drone Operation II (1 hour, 17 minutes, 38 seconds) 22. Medium Drone Operation III (7 hours, 19 minutes, 2 seconds) 23. Heavy Drone Operation II (3 hours, 14 minutes, 4 seconds) 24. Heavy Drone Operation III (18 hours, 17 minutes, 36 seconds) 25. Gallente Cruiser II (3 hours, 14 minutes, 4 seconds) 26. Gallente Cruiser III (18 hours, 17 minutes, 36 seconds) 27. Fuel Conservation I (16 minutes, 40 seconds) 28. Fuel Conservation II (1 hour, 17 minutes, 38 seconds) 29. Fuel Conservation III (7 hours, 19 minutes, 2 seconds) Total time: 10d 6h 9m 10secs This badboy can easily do low level anoms, belts and all sorts of madness to make you stone cold cash-ISK. With decent drone skills you can make up to 10 million every 20 minutes in this little ship! As you can see, the skills needed to fly these beasts can be trained in only a week and a half. And remember - every point of SP that goes into this shop helps in skilling towards a Vexor Navy Issue and Ishtars!

@Lawlsworth1337

6 жыл бұрын

can i use this fitting with an alpha account? and is the 10 day training time with an alpha account?

@jakeconnelly2441

6 жыл бұрын

Not with an alpha. Fuel conservation is Omega only.

@Lawlsworth1337

6 жыл бұрын

im omega now XD. decided not to do vni ratting, exploration is making me 100mil an hour

@TheGoatPC

6 жыл бұрын

100mil if you are lucky. I've had day's where I would walk away with 1+ bill for a few hours, then weeks with nothing. Join a wormhole corp, Running combat anomilies in a C5 can net you about 150mill an hour and you just sit there watching Netflix.

@xsonority

6 жыл бұрын

okay honest opinion, i dont like it, i have tested it several times and it failed me, the rep cant keep up with the damage at all from the clone rat. It might not be intendet to kill it but its in hull after 20 seconds of a fight. It may also be my skills, not sure.

Waste of time

Terrible terrible fit...

How the FUCK are you doing EVERYTHING wrong, but still manage to dare fly a faction cruiser? What the fuck. 1. Please. Press "V" to run a directional scan. Don't actually use your mouse button to click the "Scan" menu item. Fucking hell. 2. Speaking of which - you can use the Control-key on your keyboard to lock targets. Don't right-click them or use the Selected Item menu... 3. The reason you see traffic passing through is because the system is part of a highway and the gates that are being used are outside of your scan range 4. The industrial ship is sitting at a starbase. Thank you for your incompetence.