I invaded on RL1 for close to 8 months. Essentially trained to be an invader and learned how to survive OL phantoms and their arsenal of spells and weapons. The feeling of winning those invasions is insanely addicting.

@shithappens816

2 ай бұрын

How do you sustain invade fingers

Claymore, rusted anchor, dismounter, halberd, shamshir, ls gs, great epee, ballista, great club. All availabe in limgrave/weeping pen. Start vagabond and have at it.

@michaelbowman6684

15 күн бұрын

Don't forget the Ornamental Straight Sword (can be obtained from beating the "tutorial" boss) and the Dragon Halberd (technically available really early, requires you to get good and beat the Dragonkin Soldier in Siofra River.) Both these weapons absolutely stomp in early levels, they make fighting overleveled phantoms feel fair. You don't especially need to make these your primary weapons, you can just pull them out whenever you see that the host has 2 buddies rocking Bull-Goat's, then swap back to something more tame once the host is alone. Of course, there isn't really anything stopping the Host from obtaining these weapons themselves other than ignorance, but still, don't bully the babies if they look that they don't know any better.

Just swap off your broadsword and KICK! That! Shield! (Square off also would have cracked it!)

@achaziel

6 ай бұрын

I've recently implemented that strat in my own build. I keep a fire misericorde in my offhand, so whenever a greatshield is being held up I just softswap my right hand away, L2 to kick, Y+L1 to equip my misericorde and take the riposte. Works surprisingly well (whenever I think about actually doing it lol)

@ETBrooD

6 ай бұрын

Lots of co-opers use shields to block. It's a good PvE strat. Time for invaders to get their kickboxing gym membership :) Hammer talisman is also good. Drains stamina like you wouldn't believe.

Getting those 325k rune bags after popping a max phantom is so gratifying, RL9 with +3 vulgar militia, storm assault, and ancient dragon lightning pots are also great equalizers

I think the biggest barrier to entry for people attempting invasions for the first time (like you said) is discouragement after experiencing what it feels like to fight multiple people in the sandbox at the same time. Once you get the experience, it’s not as big of a deal or nearly as intimidating, but videos like this are really important for getting those people looking down off the precipice to take that first step. Nice 👍🏼

@info_mercial

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! yeah you just gotta go in with the mindset of "i'm gonna die a lot but most of it will be funny and sometimes I will win, and that will also be funny"

The “P” when you say “co-op” is so powerful and independent

@squampnart

6 ай бұрын

ikr dude's enunciation in an elden ring vid is better than most professors' lmao

I was inspired by your RL 1 videos to make my own RL 1 invader. I've enjoyed the experience. Fighting honest co-op teams is fun, getting to invade Stormveil often is an absolute treat. Running into overleveled monsters isn't even bad, all things considered. I feel a bit like a bounty hunter because if I manage to bag an overleveled phantom, it's payday.

@info_mercial

6 ай бұрын

That's awesome! glad you're enjoying it

I usually invade level 25 +3. It gets similar activity. The only issues I have had are when my opponents are using lightning infusion, or have maxed out stats to use ancient death rancor. Get hit with a couple skulls, and I'm going down. Occasionally I get the max moonveil, rivers of blood combo team that is rough to deal with. But overall it's pretty fun. I progressed the game with it, and it's slowly become a twink. I also coop with the same character though. Hoo boy do invaders get mad. The most hatemail I get is while using this character for coop. I try not to use the most OP stuff though. I have the rot pot recipe, and won't use it. I have spears that I can bleed infuse, but don't do that. I don't desire to be as mean as many twinks I have met in the past. I'll take a few losses for my pride of skill over toxicity.

@DefyDogma

6 ай бұрын

RL 25 +3 is my favorite coop range because it is mostly helping new players through Stormveil. With it being one of the larger areas in the game, and no mid-level boss to break up the level, I enjoy getting to explore the whole castle in coop. I run a regen build at that level that uses holy ground to keep the party healed and fighting so we can clear the whole level in one go. Lots of fun, and helps the party deal with invaders as well. I've found that RL 1 +3 is the invading equivalent to a RL25 +3 coop character. In terms of where you invade vs where you coop. The build creation process is also remarkably similar because the weapon level is the same. The only real difference is you have about half the hp at RL 1 that you would have at RL 25. Both great early game build choices. Although I should add that RL 1 is not coop viable because it only matches up to RL 12, so most players will level out of the RL 1 range in their first hour of playing.

@spacedoohicky

6 ай бұрын

@@DefyDogma Yeah. It's really fun. Perhaps the most fun since the early areas are so good. Stormveil is tied for my number 1 favorite with Leyndell.

Absolutely loved the video. Keep them coming!

my setup is dragon halberd and BHS offstoc on a lvl9 hero. Those weapons don't take a lot of time to get, have OK requirements for a lvl10 character and the cool thing agout the Dragon halberd is that the lightning buff adds a flat 160 lightning damage which will is huge at this level I definitely recommend y'all to try this out

Glad I’m not the only one with the tries to parry a jump attack problem

Little bit late to this one but every RL1 weapon +0 invasion build I've seen is missing the mark on one I've been testing awhile. Yes, it is an incredible pain in the butt to get through the game to get all the items, but it's so worth it melting high level co-op players and getting constant invasions at church of elleh. Rivers of blood, black bow, dragon communion seal. Silver tear husk helm for the stats, royal remains set for the life regen. Both soreseals, faith +5 talisman, and dex +5 talisman. Rot breath, rejection (for knock back), blood fly swarm for spells. Maxxed flasks 8/6 spread, regen/shield for special flask, and kukri equipped. Lamenter's prattling pate to grief. Most fights are over as soon as I get rot on the host-- they don't have bolluses yet to cure it and not enough flasks to outheal it. Rivers of blood does so much work as backup, losing the attack from silver tear is always worth it. I'm mashing my face against the lamenter boss right now to see if Lamenter's mask is better, will report back if I have good results.

@shawzaam

6 күн бұрын

Lamenters mask is unnecessary, but I am having some good results with the mushroom set + silver tear mask, so I can equip dragonslayer great katana

Honestly, this reminds me of this one bonfire duel I had in DS3. It was a herald that had picked up a halberd vs. my axe swinging warrior ass. It was a lot of fun because no one hit could end the fight. So we just kept wailing on each other back and forth trying to edge out a win. I forget if I even won.

ive invaded at lvl 30 and some dude put a password and summoned his lvl 200 mate and there was no scaling. he would to just over 500 damage with an r1 and had easy 2k + hp

Love your channel homie ❤️

You sound like Saint Riot's brother

@_Bunger_

6 ай бұрын

Sane Ryan

@PierreLucSex

4 ай бұрын

I love Saint but assertive tone isn't an identity

So, I do Invasions at level 150 all the time. I find that I am constantly bouncing from one invasion to the net without having to wait for very long- quite often I get into an invasion as soon as I put my sign down. I do make videos of my invasions also, which you can see on my channel of course....lol. Anyway, in this video you said that it is more difficult to get invasions at the 100+ level, but I have not experienced that. I will say, however, that when I want to play as a hunter, it does take forever to be called in as a blue. Sometimes I have gone for two hours with the blue call ring on, only to never get the call, which can be disappointing.

@MegaLotusEater

3 күн бұрын

You dont have any invasions vids on your channel.

Just get 4 talisman slots at lvl 20. Its fun, and far easier to achieve than you'd think.i also like the options because you are too low level to specialize.

Sometimes my attacks wont conect

Invading in low level is fun because while the summons are usually strong the host is not.

Their damage numbers are scaled down (not nearly enough) but their defenses and options are not. You also have the triple status spammers which is really annoying if you don’t dupe curatives like me. Frankly I just don’t see this game being worth the headache in most cases

@Kosmunist

2 ай бұрын

It’s really not difficult to deal with high level phantoms

@ChuckFinelyForever

2 ай бұрын

@@Kosmunist Yeah, really easy dealing with 2 max level phantoms spamming aoe or tracking spells while you are level 40. I guess you are just that guy.

@Kosmunist

2 ай бұрын

@@ChuckFinelyForever at level 40 you have access to every portion of the game to acquire the tools to beat them. Everyone is that guy

@ChuckFinelyForever

2 ай бұрын

@@Kosmunist What’s the tool to beat constant triple dragon breath? Or am I just supposed to run around the map for 30 minutes until they do something stupid like separate?

@Kosmunist

2 ай бұрын

@@ChuckFinelyForever frost pots, instantly knocks them down

Do you get the same experience when you are level 1 and your weapon is level+10(somber smith level) ?

Claws are a great combo weapon that can delete overleveled furled fingers and grease in whatever flavor is great for added damage top that with milicents gaunlet and winged sword signia with decent poise armor and the bull goats talisman and dragons crest greatshield talisman along with the poise and thorny physick and your a demon that can tank most light attacks and get a true combo on your opponents

The downscaling isnt all that good cuz they can still pack a Punch. The downscaling works on fixed values proportional to the level they co op in. Worst scenario is a bad ganker sweatlord got password summoned or is a capped put mage. They can specifically max put int and join with no real consequence. Same w STR bros.

Dragon halberd is MEAN for invasions early. The ash of war is amazing plus lightning AND frost is great

ive been sticking wit co-op as opposed to invading. will probably start invading with a spear and parrying shield on hand.looks fun winning 3 v 1 like that

pc must be the most active because i have to wait 10 minutes for an invasion on ps5

I invade at rl50 mostly i find it better than my higher level builds because host and phantoms have less damage and fp i also find more invasions

Why no coliseum? Does nobody fight in the coliseum? I feel like that would be the perfect place for this ...

I’ve just got my min maxed lvl 30 +3/7 and that’s all I needed to get 40 vigor and all the gear I wanted with 42 poise. I could honestly do it with less but pve is way harder to get through. My favorite weapon is zamor curved sword and I got it fair and square from the mountaintop hero’s grave. One of my first invasions with it was a gank squad at raya lucaria where I tricked them into dying to the ball. When I got the 350k runes or so from the phantom I started laughing so hard the ball got me too but I had already won. 😂

you are out of your mind if you think "they are scaled down, it's okay" is a reasonable defense of the state of sub-meta invasions. when you assert this, you show the thumbnail clip where, with great latency luck, you got hit a single time by only the weapon part of corpse piler (not the laser beam), and then where the left hand uchi misses with their jump attack. it would have killed you outright if they were six inches closer and both hits landed. it looks like your setup ought to have about 160 robustness, so we can work backwards from how much your bleed bar fills and deduce that their rivers has 78 bleed or so, which puts them at 80 arcane (status buildup isn't scaled down at all btw). so, both hits (all four, counting the lasers) of the first corpse piler input would've bled you out immediately and killed you too, had you not interrupted them. i know the point of the video is that this sort of invasion isn't as common as people might think, but i think you're misrepresenting things a little here lol. a nice parry, yes, but how did that invasion happen to end? 🤔

Very interesting video. Fully agree, low level invasions are far more chill in general.

Just use dragon halberd at low level and suddenly you become the best pvper in elden ring. Just be careful not to spam the aow..when it's clear the first part of the aow misses, don't continue the attack because it has slow recovery time. Experienced player can just outspace it and counterattack

It’s absolutely still a big deal if you’re fighting unscaled phantoms even if you are at meta lvl.

I'd love to try invasions at a low level, but unfortunately the wait time is far too long because I'm on PC. I don't want to play on console because I use M+KB. I can successfully invade at high/mid level, but everyone's twinked out to the max and I don't care about that.

Very simple. Any OLP is getting rot and sparks. They die so quick. Then I swap back to something newb . I only go hard on the OLPs

Im lv 200 and play with a friend who just started playing, if we are invaded i always only buff him and let him fight the invaders. Unless its obvious that its a skilled player who has already beat the game and is twinkin around at low level, then I might help out

Youd be surprised how powerful a low level character can be. I have a 10 that runs RoB and bloodboon lol 27 arcane. I bleed 90% of Phantoms before they bleed me

I once invaded a newcomer fully twinked out and after I beat the phantoms w fire pots i got 181k runes. Is that normal or hacks?

@Dosntmattrshu

5 ай бұрын

thats normal there are bots in twitch chats and discords where you can type "!igot [insert the number of Runes you got when killing the person]" and it will tell you exactly what level they were. the level of the person you killed was pretty high

I'm interested in invasions but I'm just way intimidated

@info_mercial

Ай бұрын

I get curb stomped at least 10 times for every clip I show in my videos if that helps! Dying and losing are just part of it and you get used to it eventually

In the words of the director - invader's are just an intelligent AI. You can't have a fair fight. As an invader you have to be creative, cuz all odds are stack against you. Cep in ds2 cuz you can invade regarless if they have help or not. Still feel they just need to make taunters tongues with out cooldown to invade so gankers can try to deal with waves like in ds3 and Aldrich faithful cults

PvP of the erdtree

That's cute and all but on my end, people with the moonveil and shit were not the coop person, it was the invaders. Soooo....experience may vary. And honestly, I hope they include the option to turn invasions off without preventing coop or at the very least, a way to toggle the cooldown duration to be able to have more or less invasion to our own discretion. Sometimes I dont mind, but sometimes I cant be bothered to be slowed down. And when I try to help my friend doing Caria Manor and we have to deal with 6 invader on our way to Loretta, it's just flat out annoying. 1 or 2? Fine. 6? Absolutely fucking not.

@youtubeenjoyer1743

9 күн бұрын

It’s a single player game

The downscaling isnt as good as it should be plus statuses barely get touched if at all

Low level invasions are fun if you are a pro at pvp,you can outplay noobs even in a 3v1

3 away from 500 👌

We have a whole group of the top players on PSN. Some of us are invaders, most are tournament players. Your video was very good, let me know if you want to join. We have KZread content creators ofc, but the main goal is for us to just fight the best opponents. Lmk if you want in if you’re on PSN. I just subbed.

I have killed so many in the beginning area mostly campers, with single kill give me 100k souls, the only people i have problem i have is someone around 20 and activating his run and tanking evey hit better that those high level summons

password phantoms are aids. We ate so good in the ds1 and 2 days. good invaders were forged through the hells of the ds3 blender. elden ring ain't much harder if you have the skill and the resources. I agree low level is the place to learn

I love invading at RL34 +2, i run into three stackers all the time and most times stomp em, ngl i beat most of the game to get alot of shit and adore stomping 3s as a Twink, i give runes and items to genuine noobs and run pvp stacks down with alot of diff weapons. ER pvp is so awesome

Short answer, no it's not good for beginners. It's the opposite, most of the time. Beginner Hosts and Phantoms are often very aggressive, they spam R1 an running attacks, for a beginner it's impossible to handle the positioning and timing in this situation. I know what I'm talking about, best Great Bow LvL 1 Invasor out there 😌

Objectively false since low levels are full of ganks and unscaled phantoms, only pro is high activity.

Low level invasions are awful. Its either way too easy or painfully / artificially difficult. Damage scaling is NOT good at base level in my experience. I run into a lot of over leveled phantoms that can almost one shot or bleed/madness/sleep in one shot.

as the overleveled phantom, nah, you aint winning pal.

Lil bro is smurfing and crying about high lvl coop summons

On my experience, the lowest the level the easiest the invasion, max level is full of noobs but the high damage spell spaming becomes ridiculous and that 99 mind makes it basically infinite.

Beginner here. I agree.