BLACK AND WHITE AND SMOKING SO ARTISTIC

@dancorwell4550

4 жыл бұрын

Did you know Ralph smokes weed? isn't that just the coolest? /s

@WhiteChocolate74

Жыл бұрын

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!

My favourite Lover related moment was when Ralph was on Sardonicast and Adam Johnston automatically assumed that because the film looked kind of bad that Ralph shot the film with Dogma 95 rules (Danish guidelines for creating "pure" film, where you one of the rules is to only use a handheld camera) and asks Ralph, to which he awkwardly says no and there is weird moment where Adam realises that Ralph just made an ugly movie

@hamburglar8794

2 жыл бұрын

Which episode?

@hopefullypg3431

2 жыл бұрын

@@hamburglar8794 Episode where they talk about Spiderverse, Lover and Amadeus

@hamburglar8794

2 жыл бұрын

@@hopefullypg3431 Ok, thanks heaps.

@darendavison9608

2 жыл бұрын

Damn Adams annoying af. Havent seen lover and it does look kind of ugly visually but has Adam ever made anything of his own or was he just born to criticize

@craigmurdock4740

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s quite intense. Adam also says he didn’t notice any extra lighting being done in the movie, but Ralph accidentally takes that as a compliment and says “we did our job if you can’t notice” hahahaha

Yall saying "Ralph Sepe Jr" everytime is like hit of cocaine. Love it.

Changing everything to black and white was such a terrible decision. Its painfully obvious based on how poorly composed the contrast is. 17:16 is a good example of this. Since everything (including the characters) are monotone, the focus goes straight to the plastic bag, plates, and cups on the table. The eye gravitates towards the objects with the most contrast. Its not as simple as just taking away the color. Good black and white films need to be shot with the intent of making a black and white film. Even though the season color thing was cheesey he should have stuck to it, because doing this probably ruined so many more of the shots. Also, I remember before it came out, he would use this film and his other films to shit on other movies saying his work was better. It was kind of annoying, and ultimately why I stopped watching his content. I never watched his films because the clips he played in his reviews looked cringe as hell. His problem with filmmaking seems to be his view on other films in general. Instead of examining bad movies to learn from their mistakes, he just does it to shit on them and learns nothing in the process.

The most eye opening point in this review for me was when you guys mentioned the hack student film trope of "the gun". Once I heard that, I started laughing my ass off, because I definitely could recall all the shitty student films I made that had "the gun" in them. When I first watched this video pre-COVID, I made it a rule to never include "the gun" in any of my student films again, and it's something that's helped me a ton. Really, you guys do such an amazing job at perfectly deconstructing not only why Ralph's films are terrible, but also why student films in general suck balls, and it's basically been a guide book for making my own films better, however marginally. Love your vids, I watch them whenever the come out.

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

As Sam Slade says in the video, it's just a very lazy way to add "drama" or tension. This actually became such a problem at our community college that, towards the end of our time there, the head of the film department banned guns from student films that got submitted to the yearly film festival. He said something along the lines of "how many 19 year olds do you know that solve their problems by shooting each other?" I am honored that you have learned something from our goofy videos! The biggest thing you can do to get better is to just keep making stuff, and never assume you know everything you need to know. I still feel like I am constantly learning and I've been doing this stuff for 10 years. -Alec

when he said "it's Ralphin time!" I felt that

While I didn't HATE Ralph, he displayed a lot of arrogance with this film's release, especially with that $20 blu-ray.

@YOU2ONEDAY

5 жыл бұрын

Holy fuck can any of you look at my review of this shit? lol I said all the same things and experienced a wave of hate fanboys like none of you can imagen.. Go back to my reviews of his first films 2 years ago lol... Its the funniest shit you will ever read. btw... First!

@dark_ranger1951

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know if I'd call it arrogance. He's probably really proud of the film and felt that all the work he put in was worth the price tag. The Blu-Ray is also for those who really want the full package and I might agree if that was the only way to buy it but he did have it on VOD which was only $5.

@AllNighterProductions

5 жыл бұрын

I think it comes across as arrogance because the film, in no objective way, matched up to the quality of a film worthy of that price. If it was at least available online for free, and the Blu Ray was supplemental, that'd be one thing. But there's no way to see it without paying for it, and that treatment should be reserved for something of a higher standard, if you ask me

@AllNighterProductions

5 жыл бұрын

In short, work doesn’t equal a price tag, QUALITY equals a price tag

@YOU2ONEDAY

5 жыл бұрын

@@AllNighterProductions Good point, I agree and said the same thing in my break down

Hey, I just wanted to let you guys know that I really enjoyed this. You guys have good chemistry for commentary, and God is it relieving for people to give Ralph some real criticism. Looking forward to watch more of your videos and see your opinions!

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Someone’s gotta take him down a few pegs XD Glad you enjoyed the discussion! I would recommend checking out our back catalogue, we have a handful of pretty alright videos!

I think all excuses are null and void when he charges $20 for a Blu-Ray

@donaldhysa4836

3 ай бұрын

You should charge double tbh. This movie is like the new Oppenheimer

@UncleMikki

3 ай бұрын

Ralphenheimer

@donaldhysa4836

3 ай бұрын

@@UncleMikki I can already feel I am literally him 🤩🤩

Even as someone who is quite a big fan of Ralph's I pretty much agree with everything said in this video, Lover was pretty goofy but it was basically what I was expecting from a first time film maker, not any worse. That being said I do actually agree with you guys on Ralph's kind've arrogant attitude about the movie, especially when they talked about it on Sardonicast, but he also makes fun of it in his best of 2018 video so idk. Either way this video was super entertaining and you guys earned yourselves a new subscriber

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

Thomas Simple really happy you enjoyed the video! As much crap as we give the movie I am really excited to see what Ralph does next. I know from experience how much you actually learn directing your first feature, so I want to see what he does with the knowledge that he gained from making Lover. -Alec

I agree with basically all of the points you guys made but it sometimes seems you guys have some hidden hatred for ralph calling him a loser, trashing king candy, etc. King candy was really entertaining and the fact he made that film when he was 16 years old is something really inspiring to me. But in the Lover case, we paid to see a movie so I judged it like any other movie just like you guys did and in the end it was just a disappointment of a poorly written and boring film.

@ballsofsalsa01

5 жыл бұрын

King Kandy is fun and entertaining at the start towards the mid, but then, jeez it becomes so boring. And yes, all the technical aspects are trash, not just bad, parody levels of bad, but that is solved with money, and he has a budget of below 10 000 for most of his projects so, it's k

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

King Candy is impressive for the age he was when he made it. But I feel it gets overly propped up because he is a relatively big KZreadr. On top of that, he talks of himself as a filmmaker with very little humility. To us he comes off as a average student filmmaker with a big ego. I wouldn't even say we hate him at all.. I just think he needs to take his head out of his ass when it comes to his movies. Regardless, thank you very much for checking out our video and leaving a thoughtful comment! Even if you disagree with us, we are still incredibly appreciative of the comment and are listening to all/any of the criticism. (Alec)

Thank, you for talking about this. This film has gone highly unnoticed at least to me since its release.

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

Some people have talked about it, but many of the reviews I have seen are clearly done by people that are fans of Ralph and are skewed towards liking it. Thank you for watching our video! :) (Alec)

honestly offended that the commentary and blu ray have been out for quite some time yet you guys haven’t revisited it in a new review,,,, absolutely a tragedy

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

reagan schwartz You are right, we have been slacking. We must do better. It is coming.

@R34G4N

4 жыл бұрын

Uncle Mikki Productions 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@sollybowden1357

4 жыл бұрын

Uncle Mikki Productions whennn?

*bernie sanders meme* i am once again asking for a review of the director commentary

Great review, Id just recommend you guys stop talking over one another once in awhile. There were certain points each of you would start to make that would get interrupted. But overall, well done, you guys have got good chemistry

Surprised to see how "low" the subscriber count is for this channel. I've only watched a couple of videos so far and they absolutely deserve more.

@UncleMikki

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The numbers have slowly risen over the years, but honestly it is comments like this that keep us going.

@deadchanneldontwatch7347

Жыл бұрын

another sub (me)

Your videos are pretty cool, I subbed. But next time lower the volume for the transition music. It was a bit obnoxious.

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Happy you enjoyed the video. Will have to pay more attention to the music levels next time. (Alec)

The other day, I was sad and couldn't sleep. I put Lover and I fell asleep right awayyyy

Great content guys! 100% agree with you - I listened to the Sardonicast podcast where Ralph spoke about Lover before I watched it - he definitely considers himself a shit hot filmmaker. For me it was the sound mixing and audio that was the most jarring in Lover.

My favorite part was when the words with names came up its called the credits apparently

I'm not a film expert or anything, but I like watching older movies shot in black and white, and this is an ugly ugly black and white movie.

@UncleMikki

2 жыл бұрын

Students tend to think that black and white will hide their mistakes, but in a lot of ways it actually accentuates them. Lacking color, the lighting and blocking need to carry all the weight to make shots look good, and if those aren’t executed well it becomes more obvious. Thank you for checking out our video! -Alec

I know im kinda late lol and I don't hate ralph completely (i prefer his reviews over his films), but you guys made pretty neat points about Lover. I was disappointed by the quality (like the bad audio and the use of guns and drugs in the story.) But on the topic of the film being in black and white and you mentioning that black and white doesn't work in some scenes while working in some scenes, I've noticed that during the winter scenes (the part of the film that was supposed to black and white), the black and white colour palette suited those scenes better than the rest of the film (as in the footage is sharper, less image grain and the shadows are darker.) It makes it obvious that he just took the entire of film and put the whole edit in black and white, instead of colour correcting each individual scene into black and white. Pretty lazy of him.

Glad I found your channel. Seems like reviews of Ralph's films are uncommon. And you all seem to think the same way about his films that I do, but I'd much rather watch your recounting of the films instead of watching the damn films. I think his movie reviews are themselves a work of art, and I think he's done a really good job with those. Unfortunately he also sucks at making, like, actual films I suppose? The dude has to be crazily narcissistic to direct, star, edit etc. and not be great at any of those things, but do them anyway.

Oh I remember this video, it was really good *Published 2 years ago* I shudder

walrus.

Don’t know if you still read this comment section, but what would be a good student film in your eyes?

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a good question! I don’t have any examples of “good student films” just off the top of my head. Maybe The Dirties (2013), I believe the guys that made that made it in between school semesters. I can say that 99.99% of all student films that I have seen are bad (that especially includes our own). The best ones are the ones that don’t feel like student films. They are able to do something relatively unique with what they have. It is very hard for a student film to actually be good. When looking at whether or not a student film is ‘good’ it can often come down to something as simple as “did it do something that entertained me”. Many students try too hard to make something that they believe is artistically meaningful, before they know how to construct a basic dialogue scene. Most importantly though, to me, is measuring against the filmmakers own growth. Student films aren’t really supposed to be good. Students make shorts because they are a space to practice in a controlled environment, and make mistakes when the stakes are low. Which is why we spend a lot of time in both our Ralph reviews comparing his movies to his older movies, artistic growth is only something that can be measured against itself. Sorry, that was a pretty long winded answer. We are actually planning a series where we go into student filmmaking a lot more, less of a ‘review’ format, but more breaking down what does and doesn’t work about them. And as far as reading comments go: we only have 767 subscribers, getting a comment is the highlight of my day! -Alec

@blujaebird

3 жыл бұрын

The first Clerks was a student film.

@WhiteChocolate74

Жыл бұрын

Rorschach on KZread is a reeeally good movie. It's an amateur production, although I don't know if it's a "student" film

the guy on the right is savage

While I did enjoy "Lover," I do agree with you guys on the fact that the characters are poorly written, especially Deliah/Christina. These characters have little to no motivation and backstory. They just do stuff and the audience is just supposed to accept it. Why does Howard fixtate on Deliah and not someone else? What does Howard do for a living so that he can afford his nice apartment? Why does Deliah trust Howard? These questions, and more, are never explained in the movie, which makes this movie feel extremely unrealistic. Plus, the drug dealer boyfriend and Raymond have no character development, no personality at all. The ending is also poorly done. My friends and I had to rewatch the ending 3 times in order to sort of understand what happened and even then, we weren't sure about it. However, was I entertained by this movie? Yes, but it wasn't perfect and there are several flaws in it that drags it down.

Came here after I saw Ralph criticizing Nostalgia Critic for making a bad student film on KZread.

HOW do you guys not have more subs?? this whole format is great with the group commentary, plus you aren’t jaded and clearly are open to all types of movies. you don’t hate things just because they’re popular (hence the avengers poster), which is such an annoying thing to see on some review channels. this is my first video i’ve seen from y’all and i’m excited to watch the rest of them! (i’ll be on the lookout for your commentary on his commentary track) (((:

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the very encouraging comment it means a lot to us when someone thinks we are under subbed. However, I will say we can come across as a bit jaded from time to time so I hope your view on the channel doesn't sour the more you watch us especially with our newest video coming out this weekend... Thank you for watching. -Sam Slade

The choice to make everything on black and white was wild. Coupled with the almost non-existant lighting, alot of scenes looks like mess of grey. Theres no contrast. Nothing to draw the eye or seperate character's from the background. It's hard to focus on.

@UncleMikki

11 ай бұрын

100% I have even heard some cinematographers say that working black-and-white is harder, because you can get away with less lighting mistakes

@w33blord66

11 ай бұрын

@@UncleMikki I beleive it! And those guys atleast had the advantage of knowing their shots were going to be black and white.

Nice breakdown Guys. Please do more like this. That line "I'm in rehab right now, for drugs" is amazing. It's like it was pulled right out of Neil Breen film. A little thing that bothered me about this film, it's a detail in one of the opening scenes. It's when Howard is practicing his lines in the mirror and "smokes" a cigarette. THe way he smokes it was so awkward. Like he was handed a cigarette for the first time just before he shot the scene. You can watch people smoke on your phone and practice in front of a mirror and in-- -- I don't know, a day or two, you can get pretty natural at it. Nope, fuck it. Maybe it was just me who found it awkward. Haha.

@UncleMikki

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s pretty clear that smoking is some thing that he didn’t have much experience with. Making the fact that he doesn’t really know how to smoke could have even been a funny character trait for Howard. Like if he was trying to smoke to look cool but he just comes off as awkward and inexperienced.

@richardadesmond

Жыл бұрын

@@UncleMikki yeah, totally get what you’re saying. To me, his acting and the character were weak and undefined, I feel like there’s a whole myriad of theories of what he could of been going for. Maybe that was it, he was trying out smoking to seem cool. Great, I just didn’t get the sense he was that type of character consistently throughout the film. I mean he killed 3 “”””drug dealers””” and can frame a guy for beating up Delilah, that confidence and brutality should trickle down to the nuances of smoking a cigarette 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

I'm loving the content.

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I plan on seeing this movie soon, but it seems like it's pretty competent considering most other student films I"ve seen. Especially from KZreadrs. It seems like the guy has a genuine love for the art, and has been making it no matter what resources he has. Again I haven't seen it, so I can't defend the movie itself besides saying the trailer looked pretty interesting. It kind of seemed like you guys kind of shit on it harder than deserved, but after I watch the movie I'll re watch this.

Yo you guys should rip apart my student film, Descend Eli. I would be honored

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

Well I don't know how much there is to "rip apart", but I can certainly get some feedback! It looks really good! You guys definitely nailed the cinematic aspect. As a Southern Californian, I am always jealous when I see short films with nice green forests and snow. Additionally I liked the costuming work for the characters. I would have liked to see a stronger change in Eli's outfit over the course of the short. Like he has been in the woods for months, but his clothes stay relatively clean. Him visually becoming more banged up would help connect his 'descent' visually. The sound design could use some work. It's mostly passable, but there were moments that were definitely lacking the impact they needed because of flat sound design. The demon thing really could have used some more sound effects. It did not feel as intimidating as it could have. It seems like you guys were aiming for it to speak wordlessly, but a more clear creepy sound effect when it talks would have gone a long way. It was hard to feel invested in the story. By the end of the short I got the impression that the two brothers were in the forest to kill natives to avenge their father, but in the beginning it feels coincidental that they run into the native. The first scene could really be benefited by stronger characterizations of both of the brothers and what their goals are. In general both Eli and Cade could have used stronger characterizations, outside of the fact that Cade bosses Eli around their personalities are hard to distinguish. Part of this comes down to the actors performances as well. While not terrible, some of the acting was a bit flat. After they kill the native the story really starts to feel directionless. I don't know what either of the characters goals are. It seems like they are trying to get out of the forest, but it doesn't really feel like that is an important goal until after Cade kills himself. The directionless feeling is also helped by how much time we watch Eli walking around the woods. There are definitely a few sequences that could be trimmed because they don't do much to progress the story. Generally I find that short films over 10 minutes are playing very dangerous game. Okay, that may have been a bit more ripping than I intended. However I would say you guys did a good job with it! The direction and cinematography especially were really well done. The notes I did have for you are pretty good notes, because it's all stuff that's pretty easy to improve and work on. The short wasn't horrifically embarrassing, which automatically makes it top tier student film. So keep it up! -Alec (the guy on the far left)

@WaterhouseFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Uncle Mikki Productions Thank you bro! Means a lot to hear feed back that is something other than praise from people I personally know. Yes a year after making it I’m slowly noticing it’s faults and mistakes. Unfortunately a lot of dialogue was cut because of the untrained actors ability to pull it off, but like you guys said, it’s easy to find actors. just gotta look for people who want to act

only saying this as a compliment, but the blonde dude looks so much like Guy Hendrix Dyas (one of the greatest productions designers of this century). You’re all very entertaining though.

@UncleMikki

Жыл бұрын

Sam Slade is very handsome

I can't watch the video, it can't past the laugh after "rehab". The video freezes eternally. My internet is just fine , I can see any other video, even other of your videos. Any problem with this particular video ?

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

That is really weird. I, nor anyone I have talked to, have had any issues with the video. There was nothing different about the actual video file, have you tried reporting it as a bug to KZread?

@ballsofsalsa01

5 жыл бұрын

@@UncleMikki Well I would but, it's not like Yb is going to care about some random dude with less than 200subs about a video that doesn't work for him while it does for the rest Also, I can watch it just fine on my PC so the problem has to be my phone

As much as I like Ralph's content and enjoyed Lover for what it was, I enjoyed this video. It was entertaining and the critiques were well founded. I disagree with regards to the direction/cinematography in particular. I found some of the shots in Lover to be superb, the editing was tight, and the black and white coloring (while being something of a lazy student film cliche) fit the tone of the film and made for some engaging visuals. The character of Howard while not exceptional was believable and interesting (I may be biased on this because I found him easy to identify with, although I've become more confident and stable since High School social awkwardness and violent thoughts/urges have plagued me since childhood) and while it wasn't a great performance I felt Ralph easily gave the best in the film, his delivery was natural (to the character) and he sold the creepy, methodical, restrained intensity required for the character to work. I definitely agree that Ralph should stick to writing what he knows, and that his dialogue is in sore need of improvement. The drug dealer subplot was frankly terrible, and it particularly stood out to me because of my own life experiences.The dialogue was very hit or miss, and the "I've been in rehab... for drugs" line was horribly cringy. The heroin overdose scene had some emotional resonance, but thats largely because my mom and several of my friends have OD'd before, thankfully not fatally, but I agree it wasn't well developed and basically came out of nowhere. All in all, great video, you earned a like and a subscribe.

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the thought out reply! At the end of the day art is subjective, and everyone will connect to different things (this is coming from someone who loves/defends The Lost World). I agree Ralph is one of the better actors in the movie, but I believe that it comes at the detriment of everything else. It's hard to focus on shot composition, sound, and directing other actors while trying to nail your own performance. Which is why I think he should focus on just writing/directing, or just acting. If not just one of those things he should at least try to partner with more people at higher skill levels. It seems like he only trusts himself to do important jobs, which just isn't how movies get made. All in all, months later, I want to see what Ralph does next. By the time Lover came out it had been finished shooting years before. Shooting a feature is hard, and there's a lot you learn as you go. I am excited to see what Lover taught him. -Alec

31:09 🤣

Komatose Kevin (otherwise enjoyed watching y'all rip into the auture Mr sepe)

@UncleMikki

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, to this day I don’t know what was going on with kevin. We did record this one pretty late, and immediately after watching Lover, so he may have just been tired but it never fails to make me giggle.

Sorry Ralph, I am not watching this trash fire SPECIFICALLY because you didn't even buy a new camera with that budget

I think its unfair to call Ralph pretentous, I think he shows plenty of self awareness especially on his podcast stuff. but Ralph's films most defintly are pretentous. I think he could act with time, but most of the time he seems pretty static. His buds seem to be even worse though. His camera stuff I think are nice. He is good with that stuff or at least its to my tastes. But ya regardless its a student film and it sure feels like one. You guys have some fun chemistry tho. You kept me entertained. I also have zero idea what space eggs mean but I love the dumb concept. 12/12 Space Eggs.

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

We talk about this a bit more in our Golden Hour video, I think that ralph would be a lot more successful if he gave up a bit of control. I forget what video it was, but I remember seeing a video where he says something to the effect of "I cast myself because I am the only actor I trust to pull off the character", and I wanna say he was talking about Golden Hour. Filmmaking is a collaborative medium. It can be hard to give up your baby, but being able to trust collaborators is part of the process. If he wants to be an actor, he should get someone else to at least be his DP, and if he wants to be behind camera, he should find some actors that he trusts to work with (which is why we only work with the same couple of actors). Sorry I got to this comment late. Thank you for watching, and commenting!

I haven't watched Lover but I did watch Golden Hour. I like Ralph's content but man he loves shitting on actual filmmakers and other helpful filmmaking channels like DSLRguide (he said he didn't know how to budget and makes pretentious art) yet ironically he makes this LMAO. But anyways even though I thought you guys were a little harsh. Ralph is harsh too so I guess it makes sense!

@dreamrunner7928

4 жыл бұрын

Yes Ralph's biggest issue is he is immature and severely lacking in self - awareness. He has no right calling any other creators incompetent or lazy when he puts out schlock like this and 'Golden Hour'.

@AlejandroGonzalez-by9jf

2 жыл бұрын

Bro lmaoo I remember listening to him shit on dslrguide and just fuckin laughing cuz even though I don't personally like or connect with dslrguides short films, I know that none of Ralph's movies will ever touch that quality. Unless he humbles himself.

cool video but that one guy needs to put his naked foot away also stop with the trap music it will be for the best

@chee5940

4 жыл бұрын

Join my discord server falph the movie maker is in it

@chee5940

4 жыл бұрын

please ?

@legofriend2278

4 жыл бұрын

@@chee5940 Wow. This is an incredible opportunity that I will soon be taking advantage of.

@chee5940

4 жыл бұрын

@@legofriend2278 chev k your dm's

@chee5940

4 жыл бұрын

@@legofriend2278 your from ukraine right

Wtf is a space egg

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

It is one of the purest rating systems known to man.

can you guys get more subscribers? this is good stuff!

I get what your saying but would love to see a list of your film achievments.

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

You can judge for yourself! We have a ton of short films on our channel that range from pretty good to pretty unwatchable.

This is a video that I keep thinking about, and I often come back to it because I just think it's so ironic. There are a lot of film review channels out there that act like they're hot shit, obviously Ralph is one of them. Criticizing popular films is essay to do, but I can't take any of these channels seriously because they always try to prove they know what they're talking about by making something like Lover, proving they actually don't know shit. But you guys are also one of those channels. Let me say now, that I'm not a fan of Ralph. I actually agree with some of the things you guys said, like how Lover was not good and was not fun to watch. In fact, the point you guys brought up about being a rich kid making films about being poor was something I never thought about, but was a good point you guys mentioned. I've watched his other works and they're literally all the same thing each time. But when you think about it, the projects he had worked on are apart of the reason he's as popular as he is. But for you to say he isn't learning from each project is kind of a shitty statement. Watching his work from when he was in high school, the cinematography was terrible, but the work was fairly good, which is the reason he got popular in the first place. Comparing them to Lover, Lover visually looks better for sure. As for his work to be pretentious, I agree completely, but I really think that it's funny for you guys to say this, considering you guys are too. Don't take this as hate, but this is what I've noticed compared to both your works. I actually watched Unsubscribe on Amazon. And the feeling I got watching that was the exact same as watching Lover; they're both boring. I'm a film student also, I'll admit that now, and watching you guys tear apart someone else's work like this just proves the point I made when I got to college. All film students are pretentious. I agree that with the budget he had, Lover should have been a whole lot better, but for you four to sit here and talk shit on someone's work because you think he's on a lower level than you (Which, you're actually on the same level as him, but with better equipment) is stupid as hell. You're literally gatekeeping filmmaking. Talking about "He's not learning" "He can't act". Dude on the far right has been in several of your shorts and he's pretty bad at acting too. Maybe he should stop too? "He has 500 thousand subscribers so he can suck my cock" Literally how is this criticism? And you guys are the last people who should be talking about people's physical appearances. Calling the dude a walrus and the actress ugly. I can't tell if you guys look more like active shooters or predatory Discord admins. Especially the dude in stripes. Talking about how their character design was boring was right, but there's really no need to be assholes about their natural appearances. My point being, This entire video came off as four guys who are jealous that someone in the same position as them was more successful and are happy to see him fail. Maybe if you guys had more competent content before, Unsubscribe would have had a successful crowdfunding campaign the first time around. You guys really aren't that self aware of yourselves and it shows. Again, I am not a fan of ralph. In fact, I only found out he had a feature made because he plugged it in an older video I watched, trying to say that the way he shot his is how cinematography should be, and not this other film with a budget (Which is just dumb as fuck.) I would actually root for you guys more if you didn't have the holier than thou attitudes you have.

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

Well thank you for the thought out comment! I can tell that this is something that you have spent some time thinking about, so I will also do my best to reply thoughtfully. Thank you for taking the time to watch Unsubscribe. Even if you hated it, I appreciate that you watched it. I always find it a bit strange when people call Unsubscribe pretentious. I’ll agree it’s pretty bad, and that many jokes don't land, but the climax of the movie is a dick pic joke. I don't know if pretentious is how I would describe the movie. Regardless, I’ll concede that I made it so I have a pretty biased view and cannot make a very objective judgement of the film. We don’t use the comparisons to our work to point out how we are better than Ralph. It is to make the claim that he is making movie content on the same level of every other film student (including ourselves), to combat the claims that many of his fans were making (especially at the time) that he was an amazing filmmaker. We say he isn’t learning, because to us it seems clear how he could make large leaps in his films quality but he continues to make similar mistakes. We are also guilty of this, and if you asked any of us we would tell you the same thing. We don’t have anyone saying our content is good though, outside of our extremely small community. Two points I will disagree with wholeheartedly 1: that we have better equipment. In our Golden Hour video we talk about this a bit more, but the cameras Ralph is shooting on are more expensive than the ones we have had for all of our short films (and Unsubscribe) up until Game Changers. 2: That Brian (the guy on the right) is a bad actor. Brian is very talented. You can disagree with that, but he is easily one of the most natural performers that I have ever worked with and at this point I have worked with a lot of different actors. A point I will agree with is that I am also not a fan of some of the jokes made at people’s expense. We made this video over two years ago now and those are the kind of jokes that I would try to not make or edit out. Do I need to point out the irony of criticizing our jokes about people’s appearances and then turning around to call us school shooters? Kevin is adorable. Though “He has 500 thousand subscribers so he can suck my cock" was not intended to be a criticism to my recollection, I believe Brian was saying that to say he doesn’t care if he’s harsh to Ralph. Again, something I would probably cut out now as opposed to when we made the video. Either way, like I said, I do appreciate the comment. Even though I don’t agree with some of your thoughts on our content, I’ll take a thoughtful critical comment over nothing. -Alec (the guy on the left)

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

Something I wanted to add after sitting on it a couple days. I also disagree with the idea that we are somehow "gatekeeping filmmaking". Reviews are part of filmmaking, it's a commercial artform. There's a reason we don't review any of Ralph's earlier student films, Lover was his first "real" project that he put out as a product that you had to pay money for. Making a comedic review about how bad it turned out is not gatekeeping, it's just how the industry works. Ralph makes his living off of doing it. Anyone can make movies, we have been doing it for years with no support, or even people who like us. If fear of negative feedback stops anyone from doing it, that is very much a problem they will have to deal with if they ever plan on doing anything professionally in the industry.. I also don't know why you seem to think that we believe we are above all of this.. the first section of this video is titled "Ralphthemoviemaker and a dash of jealousy". I'm not going to try to convince you that we have a sense of humor about ourselves, but I am just very confused as to where you got this "holier than thou" impression of us.

@GRSsonick

3 жыл бұрын

@@UncleMikki I agree that reviews are a part of filmmaking. It may not be the type of content I usually watch, but there's definitely an audience for it. Obviously criticism is what helps people get better. But never did I state that that was my argument. The way I see reviews, they should highlight the positive aspects second, and the aspects that need to be criticized first. I don't see how shit talking someone is going to help them improve. This just felt like some guys who don't like another filmmaker so they made a half hour video shitting on him and talk about what they know instead. 1. Brian may be a good actor in your opinion. I only stated that in my response because as already established, Ralph writes, directs and acts in all of his stuff so I assumed that Brain was heavily involved with projects in a similar way. With that in mind, I stated my opinion the way you guys were at 23:28. you guys believe that Ralph isn't a good actor, so you guys say he should stop casting himself. Maybe Brain should do the same? I guess you guys just didn't understand that about my argument. 2. The gear point was a complement. I don't know what camera you use but its obvious you guys focus more on other equipment than just camera. Because Lover is proof that having a good camera doesn't mean having a good image. 3. Regardless of when this was made, you still recorded you and your friends making fun of someone else's appearance and uploaded it to the internet. Do I need to point out the irony of making fun of someone else's physical appearance and laughing about it, then getting offended when someone does it back? 4. As for the Gatekeeping and "Holier than thou" point, I was referring to your attitudes. It had nothing to do with reviewing a film. Again, I agree with several of your thoughts about Lover. But they way you guys go about it is where i begin seeing you guys as pretentious and thinking you're better. 23:50 "Clearly you have not gotten better since you were 16." Even though I don't like his work, I would say he has To be honest. We saw the same movie, and obviously there are several issues with it. It's as if audio was never even a thought for him, but the shots were a lot better than they were in the past. You say that you're not going to review his previous work, but at 5:39 you literally state your opinions on them. I really feel like that going into a film like this isn't the best mind set. Going into a movie just because you don't like someone's previous work sounds odd to me. If you don't like the creator, what's the point of watching their newest work? to be honest, I'd actually like your feedback on that point. At 7:09 "That is a hack and student film thing. It would have been hilarious, we would have shit on it more." Does that not sound like gatekeeping to you? You practically paused the review just to say that. I wouldn't completely say that this is a student film thing to do, more like an artistic choice, but i would say its lazy editing. Even then, what the hell is the point of making fun of another person's artistic decisions? There's also the point at 21:51 where you call him a "film student loser". Are you positive that that isn't gatekeeping? Listen, I'm a very preceptive person and I listen to the people around me. You guys are exactly like the other film students I've seen at my university that put themselves on a pedestal. The only difference is that you guys are actually making content while they're just talk. So I respect that. But this is just a bad review altogether. Though, Ralph does have this attitude also but just more aggressive, so that's apart of the whole thing I mentioned about reviewers acting like hot shit. Because like you said, he made a career off reviews, but ironically isn't as skilled at filmmaking as he thinks he is.

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

@@GRSsonick We are not shitting on him because we dislike him at all, we actually love Ralph! I don’t know if this is obvious, but we are a comedy channel. It may not be your thing, but the use of hyperbolic overgeneralization and dramatic comments are done for comedic effect. It’s how we talk about movies. Around the 2:30 mark, Sam Slade says that we love “horribly made student films”. This is true! We love bad movies, it is how we all connect to each other. We fell in love with student films because they’re kind of like a mixed bag. For the most part people end up falling back on very similar tropes (many of which are criticisms we level towards Lover), but once in a while you’ll get one that is so perfect that it could stand toe-to-toe with greats like The Room or Troll 2. I jokingly respond to Sam Slade, saying that it’s because it makes us feel better about ourselves. We like to shit on each other constantly. To give you some backstory, all of us are longtime film students (meaning most of us spend way too much time in college around film students). When one of us calls someone a “film student loser” it is coming from a loving place. We have seen (and made) every manner of bad student film. We even made one about drug dealers that had guns and was in black and white! Further than that it was worse than anything that Ralph has ever made, and we were older at the time than Ralph was when he made his first public short film. I say all of this to say, we talk about ‘student filmmakers’ in general as a shorthand for a place that almost all filmmakers find themselves in. Which I believe is a fair state to make fun of! A student playing into a typical trope generally is unworthy of criticism, which is why I said we haven’t reviewed any of his older short films (but that’s also not to say that we aren’t allowed to have opinions on his other shorts, he still put them up publicly. Anyone can have any opinion on any one of our movies). It becomes a criticism when someone who is no longer a student and who has resources falls into the same tropes. To me gatekeeping would be saying that “anybody that does this shouldn’t make movies”, but we are not. We are saying that Ralph is making the same mistakes he has been making for several projects. Any of us making a judgement that someone’s work has not improved in various categories is not us saying “and we are better than that”. It is us saying “we’ve seen this creator try this idea before, and they are still making the same mistakes”. Brian is very rarely one of the writers, and he doesn’t ever produce or direct. We cast him because we think he is a talented actor, and we enjoy collaborating with him. Personally I do not care if you think he is good or not, because I know that he is a good actor. We expand upon whether or not Ralph should act in our Golden Hour video. It’s not as simple as us saying “Ralph shouldn’t act”, more so that Ralph tries too many things on his sets and it costs him doing any of those things as good as he can. Since he self-identifies as a “movie maker” we believe he should focus on being behind the camera. To your point about why we would watch his newest work when we hadn’t liked his previous work: We all have different reasons. As stated we do not dislike Ralph, we all like his regular content for the most part. For me, with both Lover and Golden Hour, I wanted to see him go above some of the short films he had made. In both videos I start out saying that I expected more than we got. I cannot speak for the other three, but there was definitely the element of watching it’s bad-movie entertainment potential. As I said, we love bad movies. You may not agree, but we enjoy watching bad movies as much if not more so than good ones.

Notice how Ralpth complains about movies having an inconsistent tone when one of his favorite directors, stanley kubrick was known for mixing tones in his movies? Its not really a valid argument when Ralph insists that a movie is bad or flawed for not maintaining the the same tone, especially considering his favorite movies are known for doing this. If you think about it, it would make sense for movies to shift tones. It adds to the realism and complexity of the narrative. Life is not always LIGHT or DARK. I just dont understand Ralpth. His movie reviews and opionins usually boil down to the movie being boring or bland which is pretty ironic coming from him given the tiny scope of his vocabulary and the fact that he basically just says a movie is poorly written or boring without going in depth. Movies are not bad if their boring. Boredom is a symptom not cause, Right?

If you guys think that lover is this bad, I can’t even imagine what you think of far shittier KZreadr movies

@UncleMikki

3 жыл бұрын

It depends on what we are talking about. If we are talking about your average student movies with 8-12 views: we generally love them, that's our jam. Stuff like the Smosh movie doesn't really interest us.

Knew something waa funny about these dorks. Then the guy shows how hes an expert at roofieing drinks? Wow

@UncleMikki

2 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, obviously you need to mix it to avoid buildup at the bottom- any amateur could tell you that

I don't understand what being a loser has to do with the actual movie

@dreamrunner7928

4 жыл бұрын

Ralph uses the same insults when tearing apart movies. Like when he called the directors of Gotti and The Haunting of Sharon Tate "fucking idiots". And when he calls the cast and crew of Ghostmates incompetent and lazy. I agree with him that those movies are terrible, but since he decides to immaturely insults creators it's only fair he gets the same treatment.

@northstarproductions3510

3 жыл бұрын

@@dreamrunner7928 I think he does the insult for comedic affect

It seems to me that you guys are trying to do a roundtable discussion along the line og RedLetterMedia ( Not saying that you aren't allowed to, and that you're stealing from something houndreds of other channels on youtube do ) It's just that all of you seem so unlikable and don't really have any personalitys. At least with RedLetterMedia they're funny and likable, you guys are just blank and borring.

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

It’s all good! If you don’t think we’re funny, then you don’t think we’re funny! Thank you for checking out the video, and giving it a shot!

you know what is adorable about this, I did this exact thing.. I made the first reviews.. I did a 1.5 hour review, I shit all over the film and call out all the same exact flaws these guys do.. and the exact same fan base is coming here and liking this video sand then defending their like in the comment...omg... fukin mission accomplished.. no body has any direction lol... Im holding my gut laughing at the hypocrisy... This vid isn't that old so lets see where this goes.. This is by far the pentacle of ridiculishiousness…

@cortezfilms8511

5 жыл бұрын

YOU2ONEDAY I think the deference is that their video is fun, interesting, funny, entertaining, understandable, relatable, and they all are having a good time giving out good vibes. Yours are long, boring, hard to watch, comes off like you have a hate boner, not entertaining, not relatable, and comes off like you think you better than Ralph. I agree with your points as well with this podcast, but your review is not fun to watch in my opinion. I haven’t seen your latest content, but based on your reviews. Your personally needs improvement base on the reviews. That’s probably the biggest issue with the reviews.

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

I’m glad somebody said it. Thank you for the kind words :)

@cortezfilms8511

5 жыл бұрын

Uncle Mikki Productions where’s my heart?

@cortezfilms8511

5 жыл бұрын

🙏

@YOU2ONEDAY

5 жыл бұрын

@@UncleMikki WELL geeeee… how to respond.. Ill say this.... plenty of people found the video entertaining, entertainment wasn't the issue.. The issue is I am unapologetically myself, as well as the rest of our commentators. We dont need to subscribe to the notion that we have to be anything but ourselves and it has worked out just fine.. The videos have negative connotation and remain negative.. I laugh at what I think is dumb, I point out objective flaws and I then recommend that people dont donate to his bullshit. I feel I didn't need to do more.. remember my content was about ralph. Got no response from him... SO then his fan base proceeded to hate bomb me and insult us.. which was fine.. But when I hit back they couldn't take it. called me a bully and cried about it.. most stopped replying because they tried to refute my claims, when that failed they tried to troll me, when that failed they tried to have my account banned.. when that failed they down voted and ran away.. I dont need to have a fun bouncy thematic show to get a point across. The video was only intended for one person.. Walrus.. and if you check my channel.. I am ralphs first critic.. I made my first video on him in 2016. most of them left commenting were alt accounts by his own people. Its obvious when you see the copy and pasted replies, play list are identical.. and the same people having conversations with ralph in the comments. My favorite point from this video here is how these four betas talk about how ralph has no life experience (neither do they) and how his bad acting writing and directing reflect that.. Youre not going to get great works of art this way and my point is ralph has a big ego for a half-adult half-child with zero life experience and terrible judgment.. ralph is famous for reviewing mystery diners, using curse words when reviewing children's movies, and stroking his ego over his shit heel award.. ALL of this is observed keenly from the strong, Iron clad position of "I dont give a flying rat fuck about YOU or HIM or ANYONE" I dont beg for subs. I dont ask for likes and I dont sell shitty sweat shirts or cups with my face on them.. They can all go fuck off to Lego land as far as I am concerned. Ill be addressing some of this in my next video. People say I should respect ralph. Respect is earned.. if ralph gets 5 million subs tomorrow He still has the same level of respect from me which is ZERO.. because he will still be a shitty person with bad ideas. Hollywood is full of them and I respect none of them.. Ralph has never worked a hard day in his life. Ralph has never struggled and never been hungry (obviously)… and I stand by what I said,, I also notice that people who tend to say shit like Cortez just said are these lame ass critics...… and the Critic War is coming.. You2oneDay

I took 1200 dollars to make, and you say it looks cheap....... 🤦‍♂️ Well it was, 12 grand for a film isn't much

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

12000 is a LOT for a student feature. We have been making super low budget films for a long time, and we know what COULD be done with that money.

@daddysmolf2135

4 жыл бұрын

Could he have hired a crew for that money? A guy to hold the camera and a boom-mic operator? What about things you would never think about like a script superviser? What about locations, props, money for the actors, food for the actors, gear to shot the damn film, money to write the music. Think about pre and post-production. What about that? But it looks cheap... okay, you figered it out, you unlocked the secret, for guess what... ... it was...

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, he easily could have gotten a camera person and a boom operator. With his audience, he probably could have gotten those for free, because there are many young people hungry to work on projects like this, especially when someone with a large social media following is producing it. (For example, all of the crew for all of our projects have worked for nothing but sandwiches, and we don’t have any following. You can also check out a Film Riot video, where they talk about how they get the funding for their projects, and in that video they talk about how most of the crew works for nothing and that’s the only way those projects would have gotten made) he edited the movie himself, so he saved a bunch of money there. I don’t know what to tell you dude. He did not spend the money in a way that produced a quality final product. EDIT: As far as what the budget probably should have been spent on, I would have tried to get a crew to work for free and spent it all on actors and location. He acted in it himself, and All the locations are suburban homes. So clearly that is not where the budget went.

@daddysmolf2135

4 жыл бұрын

@@UncleMikki But even if he forced his fanbase to work for him and spent all the money on locations and actors, it dosen't change the fact that it's 12 grand. As soon as you start spending that small budget half the money's gone. Like I think Lover is bad too, but it seems to me that you guys are being overly critical to a big youtuber to try and milk out drama so you can get people attracted to your own channel. You're just milking random shit to make the film seem worse than it is. I mean how the hell is there being a gun in the movie a criticism? You spend so much of this video screaming about small nitpicks, that only you can really relate to beacuse you spend all your time laughing at amature filmmakers, who's balls haven't even droped yet. He was like 18 or 20 when he made this, and he hasen't learned from his mistakes yet? Like you say you make movies too, and how better have you gotten? you seem to be a lot older than Ralph is and there by haveing had more time to get better, Ralph has made King Candy, Lover and Happy Hour. 3 little movies don't make you a master. It's seems to me that the only reason you don't like his films are beacuse he's a big youtuber. If he was a guy with as many subs as you and he made Lover, you wouldn't have half as much to say about it. It just seems to me that you don't like Ralph, and that's not a good enough reason to hate the movie. You're just judging it on other amature studentfilms, and yet you act like it's supposed to be this big Hollywood movie. It is a student film, of course it's cheap. If this was by PTA or David Lych you might be right about what you say in this video, but I just feel that all you say is unjustified cause of it being his first film.

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

We run a KZread channel that is so small, we are excited to hit 500 subscribers. Collectively this and our Golden Hour review have about 10,000 views. With Lover specifically, we wanted to do a review because we have been watching Ralph's shorts for years, and we were very interested in what Ralph would do with a feature film and a larger budget. We were shocked at how little he had improved and in how many ways Lover is worse than some of his earlier shorts, and wanted to do a review. At the time we had like 200 subs and got 60 views on a good video. I am very happy that there are some people who are enjoying the videos, but to imply that we're milking this somehow is absurd. We did these videos because we enjoy talking about movies, and clowning on bad ones. You are 100% correct, the fact that there is a gun in the film is not a criticism of the movie. If you notice, it's not one of our criticisms either! We jokingly took bets on when a gun would show up, because Ralph always throws guns into his projects. So the criticism isn't that there is a gun in the movie, it is that Ralph always does the same things in his movies without learning or improving. Ralph seems to consider himself a gifted filmmaker. We are current students ourselves (for reference we are about two years older than Ralph), and thus we see a lot of other student films. More importantly we have made a lot of student films. He earns comparisons to student filmmakers because he makes the same work of the same caliber, despite having significantly more resources. You ask how much better we have gotten over the years, and I invite you to take a look for yourself. We don't claim to be master filmmakers or anything, but with each project we take pride in doing our best to learn from mistakes we have made and constantly be improving. I want to be clear, we don't dislike Ralph's films. In fact we kinda love them! He makes videos where he breaks down how bad movies are and then he turns around and does the exact same stuff (I'm looking at you Neighbor Scene from Golden Hour). He's earned a little bit of clowning on.

this video is awful im not defending the movie but you need to chill on the ralph hatred

@UncleMikki

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly its pretty garbage, a drunk man focused the camera

@YOU2ONEDAY

5 жыл бұрын

@@UncleMikki lol.. sure.. self deprecate to avoid conflict.. smells like pussy to me.

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

@@YOU2ONEDAY Nah man, on a technical level the video is pretty shit.This may sound alien to you, we do not like to argue with reality.

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

​@@YOU2ONEDAY There's no point in berating someone for not liking a video. You're not going to change their mind; you only make yourself look like a deranged ass.

I love it when people review movies, and miss the whole point of the movie. It’s okay that didn’t understand it, but don’t make a review of it. Also I hate the chemistry between all four of you guys, it would be better if there was one person. And another thing is please, oh please don’t compare your selves to Ralph, unlike you guys I can see a future for him...

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

Which whole point, exactly, was missed?

@sethcensored2821

4 жыл бұрын

First of all it’s Howard, second of all Howard has antagonistic attributes, but he still trying to be a good guy. ( when he took away the poison and wine cup from Delilah, he helps her whenever he can.) Also the ending is suppose to be that way, also a lot of the stuff you were complaining about was stuff that was explained or was implied. A lot of the movie is like a noir movie you have to connect the dots a lot. That was the inspiration for the movie if you didn’t catch that.

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

Seth CENSORED No, we caught all of that. None of that being implied or explained makes the movie any better. It is a poorly written script executed terribly. The inspiration doesn’t matter because it’s still bad. Any underlying meaning doesn’t matter because the rest of the movie is still bad. You are correct, the ending is supposed to be like that because the movie has a lame script. It’s fine if you like it, but you have a lot to learn if you think that Lover is a deep or even half intelligent movie.

@sethcensored2821

4 жыл бұрын

You are right about me needing to learn more about filmmaking, because I am still just 15, and I do agree some of the scenes are unnecessary and poorly acted . I’m not applauding lover the movie as a masterpiece but compared to the other stuff I’ve been seeing , Smosh the movie, every single movie by Logan Paul, basically every KZread movie . I respect Ralph the movie maker for that.

@UncleMikki

4 жыл бұрын

Seth CENSORED well that’s good. Honestly I have a deal of respect for Ralph myself. Whatever you may think of us, we do not personally hate Ralph. He is just arrogant a lot when he talks about his movies. We have met a lot of film students in our time. And while Ralph may stand out as a KZread filmmaker, he does not stand out as a student filmmaker. He falls into the same pitfalls that all students fall into, including ourselves. Which is fine, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But because he has a following he is getting praised for things that just simply don’t deserve the amount of praise they are receiving. At the end of the day we made the review for fun. I am the first to admit that we can be overly harsh, or hyperbolic but it’s really just in service of us trying to make each other laugh.