Love & Marriage Traditions on Tamriel - The Elder Scrolls Lore

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  • @ImperialKnowledge
    @ImperialKnowledge Жыл бұрын

    Due to a cold I felt like a wet towel while recording it so sorry if the recording is off.

  • @jesterssketchbook

    @jesterssketchbook

    Жыл бұрын

    feel better bro - love your vids

  • @kingjom5651

    @kingjom5651

    Жыл бұрын

    ^

  • @sleepysartorialist

    @sleepysartorialist

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds fine. Feel better.

  • @delverofsouls

    @delverofsouls

    Жыл бұрын

    It sounds great my friend. Hope you feel better soon

  • @ImperialKnowledge

    @ImperialKnowledge

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dukecesareborgiaofvalencia it is quite frustrating yes

  • @mcz_13
    @mcz_1311 ай бұрын

    I think it’s very sweet that in Dunmer weddings you gain an ancestral connection to your spouse’s family. It’s an extremely welcoming thing from a culture that isn’t viewed as being very warm and accepting

  • @georgeoldsterd8994

    @georgeoldsterd8994

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah, they are actually very caring about their kin.

  • @RaderizDorret

    @RaderizDorret

    6 ай бұрын

    Fun fact: that kind of spiritual connection has been a thing in human history, mainly in ancient Greece and Rome and some of those traditions (such as the husband carrying his bride over the threshold of his house; the idea was he was carrying her to his family's shrine so she can bond with his ancestors) somewhat persist to this day

  • @FatrickAteman
    @FatrickAteman8 ай бұрын

    The Riften marriage feels like an IRL courtroom marriage where the two involved just want to get it in legal writing and be done with it as fast as possible.

  • @haberak3310

    @haberak3310

    6 ай бұрын

    Definitely. It feels as secular as you can get in a society with a legally recognized religion and keeps cultural traditions to a minimum, with only a few family and friends, no more than can fit on a few pews. All of that I think is a shame, but it makes sense as it would be a pain to program in all of the different cultural weddings. Still, I hope there is a mod that gives a proper marriage overhaul

  • @madssocks8532

    @madssocks8532

    15 күн бұрын

    That's exactly why I was gonna say I'd prefer a Nordic wedding! Basically exactly what my wife and I had - someone said some pretty words, we said "I do", and bam! married

  • @hawkeyedsniper7269
    @hawkeyedsniper7269Ай бұрын

    Do not ask the bosmer what they do when their spouse dies

  • @CreatorofSecks
    @CreatorofSecks6 ай бұрын

    ngl, the Orc marriage/courtship ritual sounds really sweet; I mean, if I was an orc lass, I would be infatuated with someone if they recited a violent love poem and got me pristine wines and cheeses.

  • @ReformedSauron
    @ReformedSauron Жыл бұрын

    The imperial custom with the family tree pillow is the one I would like the most, but the orc one is definitely the most unique.

  • @kallenevanpera9230

    @kallenevanpera9230

    11 ай бұрын

    *clank* 🥄 ;-)

  • @naka488
    @naka488 Жыл бұрын

    Actually quite like the Nord version, you wear an amulet and show that you're available, if someone likes you they can speak to you and you either say yay or nay. The entire are they single/do they like me state that takes a lot of time and is tbh exhausting can be eliminated and I like that a lot.

  • @Marin117.

    @Marin117.

    Жыл бұрын

    And thats how you end up with Octieve San asking for you hand in marriage lol

  • @feenickstv4209
    @feenickstv4209 Жыл бұрын

    dunmer women got me like: WAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @sleepysartorialist
    @sleepysartorialist Жыл бұрын

    I suspect that orcs are strict because most of the tribe would be siblings, right? Sounds like a sensible way to prevent incest and the unfortunate consequences of it being born unwell. The whole violence and romance thing sounds a bit like some Pacific Islander traditions. It's not that weird. Guess my POV is just different being Indigenous myself. 🤷🏾

  • @Turtletoise

    @Turtletoise

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol imagine not bein wyte

  • @sleepysartorialist

    @sleepysartorialist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Turtletoise Not sure what your goal was here but that was really foolish and you should probably go outdoors and make some friends. You seem like a sad little person. Good luck.

  • @squidmanfedsfeds5301

    @squidmanfedsfeds5301

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Turtletoise didn’t know it was possible

  • @WetbackNoSetback

    @WetbackNoSetback

    11 ай бұрын

    Amor Apache we call it in mexico 😂😜

  • @WetbackNoSetback

    @WetbackNoSetback

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Turtletoisei couldnt imagine being pasty & fearful of the sun lol i thank all the gods i was born with Melanin in my flesh

  • @kjaldir1089
    @kjaldir1089 Жыл бұрын

    Shor son of Shor pretty much confirms that War-Wife/Bed-Wife are indeed titles for a wife. Basing it on the real life Norse culture, it wouldn't be strange for the Nords or at least early Nords/Atmorans to have multiple wives and or concubines.

  • @ladyoblivious
    @ladyoblivious11 ай бұрын

    6:35 I wonder if the change from mountainous outdoor weddings changed to inside a temple because of dragons... game play wise at least. I can see it now, you're in the middle of getting married to your spouse and a random dragon comes in and starts killing everyone. Ceremony ends and the accumulated damage takes out you, you spouse, or both~

  • @Janoha17
    @Janoha17 Жыл бұрын

    For the Orcs, does the woman throw things while the suitor recites the poetry?

  • @nerdragon2649
    @nerdragon2649 Жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video, fitting for this Valentines month! Glad I was of help, friend!

  • @olpash

    @olpash

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait, why has no one thanked you yet? Researchers need their confidence boost! So thank you, you nerdy scaly!

  • @nerdragon2649

    @nerdragon2649

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@olpash I thank you humbly for your kind words, _fahdon_

  • @dekay1428
    @dekay142811 ай бұрын

    I remember in Skyrim wh3n I married a female orc who didn't want to be married off, we got married, and she commented that Nordic weddings was less bloody than she thought or something. Even though I am an Argonian

  • @somerandommen

    @somerandommen

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes? Your race wouldn't change the fact you're having a traditionally Nordic wedding.

  • @Jiub_SN

    @Jiub_SN

    5 ай бұрын

    I mean you are in Skyrim, honestly marrying in the way the locals do for 2 foreign races makes a lot of sense, though they should've added an orc wedding if you marry the orc given their tribes are around skyrim

  • @GunterThePenguinHatesHugs
    @GunterThePenguinHatesHugs3 ай бұрын

    _"Forge wife!: the rippling of your muscles as you work the forge is pleasing."_ Absolute rizz-master _💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏_

  • @elizabethtetrick8700
    @elizabethtetrick87002 ай бұрын

    If you are an orc, you gotta pay the cheese tax if you wish to woo a lady. 😂

  • @SwordlordRoy
    @SwordlordRoy Жыл бұрын

    Out of curiosity, are there any notable resources for finding out about the War Machines and Siege Engines of Tamriel? I mean, A Ballista is a Ballista is a Ballista, but what are those siege bridge things from the 3 Fates Cinematic? Do the Argonians use anything unique like the Choking swamp gas that keeps Central Black Marsh inaccessible?

  • @NovoCognition
    @NovoCognition Жыл бұрын

    A lot of interesting practices. I wonder in cases between the different races and cultures, the frequency that certain traditions take precedence over others.

  • @Jiub_SN

    @Jiub_SN

    5 ай бұрын

    Depends on the individuals I'd imagine, like a dunmer who isn't exceptionally fond of their culture and has moved to elsweyr likely would rather do the khajit things

  • @Jiub_SN

    @Jiub_SN

    5 ай бұрын

    That, or potentially defaulting to the imperial way as their culture is so widespread that it'd be a good sort of secular pick for the likely secular couple of different races

  • @Formoka
    @Formoka11 ай бұрын

    This is fantastically informative. While I was hoping for some Bosmer traditions, the whole thing is fascinating.

  • @BaldPolishBiotechnol
    @BaldPolishBiotechnol11 ай бұрын

    Of course Mephala and Boetiah could have a lot to do with marriages! have you never thought of divorce lawyers?

  • @yokai333
    @yokai333 Жыл бұрын

    Better than daedra wedding ceremonies. Also I recommend tsimshian stories for songs of love and violence. That's what I got from orsimeri marriage for the wandering orcs

  • @RestlessHarp
    @RestlessHarp Жыл бұрын

    I always appreciate the depth and detail of your lore videos! Great work again and thanks to both of you!

  • @justsomecat
    @justsomecat6 ай бұрын

    I would really like to hear an Orc poem

  • @Zathurious
    @Zathurious11 ай бұрын

    I would like a traditional Nord wedding. Outside, sun shining, in the shadow of the throat of the world.

  • @stijnwildeboer8809
    @stijnwildeboer8809 Жыл бұрын

    Immaculate timing, as always ❤️

  • @AB-gh5be
    @AB-gh5be4 ай бұрын

    it's not as violent as i would've liked, but i tried my hand at an orc courting poem! great maid of malacath, fair kin to sworn oath, the path of my sword carves your name. in vein-painted armor i bow down before you, offering the fruits of my strength to the same. i hunted great beasts, from plain, wood, and fen, and fierce were our contests of might. yet swift as i slew them, i craved for the thrill of your blade by my own in the fight. no sabrecat's fang could rival your tusks, no troll's blows could outmatch your swing. and when draws your axe the chaurus heart's-blood, ne'er does your tough skin suffer its sting. i bow now before you with trophies of battle, but this warrior could have no greater pride, if, great maid of malacath, fair kin to sworn oath, you'd hunt with me, be the axe by my side.

  • @MirIsAwesome

    @MirIsAwesome

    17 күн бұрын

    that is actually so cute 10/10 would marry if i was an orc maid

  • @lancew1168
    @lancew1168 Жыл бұрын

    Get to feeling better. Great video and I think I would choose Nord, the mountaintop view would be a great way to start.

  • @chellinacell7450
    @chellinacell74505 ай бұрын

    In a fantasy setting I would love to cherry pick how my life would be, but overall a Nord tradition sounds amazing and somewhat familiar.

  • @TheVioletBunny
    @TheVioletBunny Жыл бұрын

    My ring is famous lol

  • @psionicdante3532
    @psionicdante3532 Жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or can anyone else see a situation where maphala decides to be the patron goddess of a wedding cuz I can definitely see here doing something like that only if it’s the wedding of someone important or who has helped her in a big way like the Nerivar or the last Dragon born who helped her get her blade back.

  • @christophermills7693
    @christophermills7693 Жыл бұрын

    tha war wife thing could be married on the battlefield too

  • @MajusFederation
    @MajusFederation Жыл бұрын

    there's an Orc Clan in the Wrothgar Region of ESO led by a Female Orc Chief actully

  • @jpenguins
    @jpenguins Жыл бұрын

    Cool video

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes I wish we had something you could wear in puplic to show you are single and looking for a partner that would make it easier to find someone.

  • @nabookraye5789

    @nabookraye5789

    Жыл бұрын

    There's Claddagh rings. You can look up more on them, but they are from Ireland and there's a whole system depending on which hand you wear them and which way is facing out that to denote if you are either single, dating, engaged, or married. Not saying that others would always recognize it, but I always thought it was a neat idea!

  • @warrenslittleworld1387
    @warrenslittleworld138720 күн бұрын

    I would either marry a Dummer, Altmer, or a Khajiit. Maybe an Argonian....

  • @darrenvilleneuve8311
    @darrenvilleneuve831110 ай бұрын

    My favorite is the stronghold orcs just for the Image of them eating cheese and then saying a poem they wrote 😂

  • @timothym2011
    @timothym2011 Жыл бұрын

    There is a female orc in western Skyrim in eso actually

  • @LadyCoyKoi
    @LadyCoyKoi11 ай бұрын

    The Dunmar practices sound similar to the practices of how I inherit the religious practices and customs of my family, particularly through ones ancestors. Santeria runs deep on my mother side, so certain traits from ones grandparents and great-grandparents can skip a generation or two and show up in the grandkids or great-grandkids... I think that would be similar to how the Dark Elves and half-race children would be as well... not just weaken but can and would skip altogether from one generation and show up the abilities in the next or two. I know I get visions through dreams and day-dreams. Anyways I would properly be very familiar to their customs more so than the other races in Tameriel. The Orcs remind me so much of Klingon fraction in Star Trek. Both being war-like.

  • @sebastianyoshikage6352
    @sebastianyoshikage6352 Жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video on Mannimarco cause I love his character and I don’t think you made a video on him?

  • @markeustace199
    @markeustace19911 ай бұрын

    interesting reference to the Ptolemy family tree, I mean some people have an actual family tree, in contrast the Ptolemy's had a plank instead.....bit like the lannisters in G.O.T.

  • @honinakecheta601
    @honinakecheta6015 ай бұрын

    With you mentioning the Ptolemy dynasty now I’m wondering if you’d do a video analysis on incest in elder scrolls, for example I read somewhere that the high elves engage in incest to maintain purity and that’s why their population is so small

  • @kingjom5651
    @kingjom5651 Жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video on Shor, I'm always confused by the relationship between shor, lorkhan, and the last dragonborn

  • @Distortion23

    @Distortion23

    Жыл бұрын

    There isn’t any connection between the Last Dragonborn and Shor. It is a theory spread around as fact by people who do too little research. Shor is in Sovmgarde while the Last Dragonborn is there. The Heroes of Sovngarde outright say that his throne seems empty due to mortals not be able to look upon him properly. Tsun does not know the Last Dragonborn and will explicitly state that Shor does not know them if they introduce themselves as Listener or Nightingale. Tsun will even state that the Last Dragonborn’s soul belongs to Nocturnal if they are a Nightingale, the idea that Akatosh even has a claim, let alone the strongest claim is false and you can even meet other Dragonborns in Sovngarde, further proving Alatosh has no claim. Tsun is a Nordic God like Shor and Alduin, as well as being Shor’s Shield-Thane. The Ghost of Old Hroldan mistakes the Last Dragonborn for Hjalti/Tiber because both have dragon souls and dragon blood.

  • @ikad5229

    @ikad5229

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Distortion23Which Dragonborn can you meet? I don't remember any, as Ysgramor and Jurgen Windcaller weren't Dragonborns. The rest are great heroes but none Dragonborn.

  • @Distortion23

    @Distortion23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ikad5229 "Hail, Dragonborn. That honor is also mine - to our shared birthright you'll bring new glory!" It's random but that is the quote they will use.

  • @ikad5229

    @ikad5229

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Distortion23 Oh, so this can be said by anyone? That's interesting. At first I thought you were refering to Ysgramor, and that would make my blood boil. As, If I'm not mistaken, there can't be Dragonborns before Alessia.

  • @Distortion23

    @Distortion23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ikad5229 Dragonborns existed long before Alessia. Miraak was the first and there were supposedly other Dragonborns that focused on killing dragons. Alessia was just the first Dragonborn Empress.

  • @leoferwer1813
    @leoferwer18137 ай бұрын

    In ESO Valinka Stoneheaver (a Miner Hireling) says: "In order to settle a debt my foolish brothers have accumulated in my absence, they decided to marry me to old Thorgrim Wartnose. They think to sell me as so much cattle? Well, think again! And Olgath gave the amulet of Mara to me! My brother! It wasn't even presented properly-not that it matters, anyway." So the "Amulet thing" is not that modern in Skyrim. Maybe they had other traditions, but since the second era they were pretty much "imperialized". And, also, it seems the amulet is used like a wedding ring, idk... Anyways, thanks for this video (and all of your videos). I'm trying to make an rpg campaign based in Elder Scrolls, and you are my unofficial lore master ;)

  • @kakarottuzumaki4346
    @kakarottuzumaki43464 ай бұрын

    1:50 Min.: I wouldnt call Dibella goddess of love. She is more the goddess of lust. Lust and love arent the same. What mara brings is love. Its the faithful true love and the contection between to humans and mer that love eatch outher form the bottom of there souls. Dibellas version of love is just physical attraction so basicly only LUST NOT love.

  • @youngoutlaw5150
    @youngoutlaw51506 ай бұрын

    What is the love that single people?Is the one with family

  • @otterbaby7769
    @otterbaby7769 Жыл бұрын

    Hear me out, lesbian Orc commune where all the girls are married to each other and spend all day fighting, making cheese, and reciting bad poetry.

  • @TheSonOfDumb

    @TheSonOfDumb

    11 ай бұрын

    Someone's got a fetish

  • @castlebarron1788
    @castlebarron17884 ай бұрын

    Isn’t Mara the concubine of shor? Whose wife is/was Kyne?

  • @redsaraleeroy1602
    @redsaraleeroy160211 ай бұрын

    Definitely the one where you get to be in a lesbian polygamist relationship

  • @DollyBelladonna
    @DollyBelladonna Жыл бұрын

    Guar ! 🥰😍

  • @lordmortos979
    @lordmortos979 Жыл бұрын

    That's not what war wife means.

  • @georges2842
    @georges28425 ай бұрын

    I love that most races make a big event of their marriage while Nords are out here just doing the ol' Mell Brooks "Married In A Hurry" bit.

  • @Jiub_SN

    @Jiub_SN

    5 ай бұрын

    Gigachad Nords, just put on your necklace and talk to that hot warrior and you're done

  • @georgeoldsterd8994
    @georgeoldsterd89949 ай бұрын

    Actually Nordic tradition doesnt even need officialized marriage. In Oblivion you can meet a Nordic couple who laugh at the Imperials for officializing marriages, saying that they "married" the traditional Nordic way, as in they just got together without any rituals or anything. Also, in traditional Nordic religion, Shor had two wives at once, which suggests that polygamy is/ was allowed to some degree.

  • @zigman3105
    @zigman31056 ай бұрын

    I wont even get married in this game

  • @stormcloakknowledge8610
    @stormcloakknowledge8610 Жыл бұрын

    💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

  • @huntersutton5489
    @huntersutton54897 ай бұрын

    What would happen if a male Orc cheften (sorry I'm bad at spelling) wanted to marry another male Orc/Orcs instead of a female Orc/Orcs?

  • @ImperialKnowledge

    @ImperialKnowledge

    7 ай бұрын

    Good question. There doesnt seem to be an exact lore explanation because on one hand, the chief is the ultimate authority so if he/she wanted it, nobody could stop them. But on the other hand the chief is the only one allowed to have partners and children and thus the strongholds new population depends on him/her. So that complicates things a bit, but im sure there could be workarounds for that, i just dont know how well they would fit in orc culture

  • @huntersutton5489

    @huntersutton5489

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ImperialKnowledge oki Thanks for responding

  • @rodricksage5963
    @rodricksage5963 Жыл бұрын

    a human male, marring an elf, based.

  • @Turtletoise

    @Turtletoise

    Жыл бұрын

    Fucking gross!

  • @rodricksage5963

    @rodricksage5963

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Turtletoise what? are you racist? you damned N'wah!

  • @feenickstv4209

    @feenickstv4209

    Жыл бұрын

    even more based if its a dark elf

  • @rodricksage5963

    @rodricksage5963

    Жыл бұрын

    @@feenickstv4209 my N'wah!

  • @feenickstv4209

    @feenickstv4209

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rodricksage5963 a certified n'wah classic

  • @pandorasbox4238
    @pandorasbox42385 ай бұрын

    I think you missed half the races.

  • @eburel506
    @eburel5064 ай бұрын

    Kinda sad for the high elves everything is arranged over years or decades and equaled a loveless marriage.

  • @efaristi9737
    @efaristi973711 ай бұрын

    2:19 I don't know where you saw that commoners in medieval times irl married for love instead of profit and perpetuating their family XD 15:59 Or so they believe.

  • @georgeoldsterd8994
    @georgeoldsterd89949 ай бұрын

    Ironically, Boethiah and Mephala are themselves a couple, in fact, they're the only couple among the known Daedric Princes.

  • @jourcontre-jour1286
    @jourcontre-jour1286 Жыл бұрын

    I will not accept to marry under any custom other than orcish.

  • @LongTran-kp3kz
    @LongTran-kp3kz4 ай бұрын

    ...A lot of marriages and relationships in Tamriel sound... both very realistic with their cultural baggage, and kind of annoying bc of it.... Oof. I love it though. Wish there was more polygamy though, ngl. Oh well. 'realism' and all that. Though Orc culture sounds... oof.

  • @davidmiller2257
    @davidmiller2257 Жыл бұрын

    Last comment

  • @XenobiaWinterWolfMoon
    @XenobiaWinterWolfMoon Жыл бұрын

    Apparently my personal beliefs match that of Mara's teaching. I to believe that souls are genderless. So the only time gender even matters is if the couple wish to procreate the more "old fashion way"

  • @zman837

    @zman837

    Жыл бұрын

    My soul DEF has a gender

  • @SalesmanWave

    @SalesmanWave

    Жыл бұрын

    Optimus prime is my soul gender

  • @edenmairay60

    @edenmairay60

    Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea that souls are genderless.

  • @kanbinadaydream6486

    @kanbinadaydream6486

    11 ай бұрын

    My soul takes the form of an angry goblin, I think

  • @XenobiaWinterWolfMoon

    @XenobiaWinterWolfMoon

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kanbinadaydream6486 probably

  • @BronzetheGolden
    @BronzetheGolden Жыл бұрын

    Real Sigmas favour the Altmer beliefs on marriage

  • @Tom_Cruise_Missile

    @Tom_Cruise_Missile

    11 ай бұрын

    Inbred knife ears lmfao

  • @BronzetheGolden

    @BronzetheGolden

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Tom_Cruise_Missile Blessed by Mara💛

  • @Tom_Cruise_Missile

    @Tom_Cruise_Missile

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BronzetheGolden Blessed by an abundance of chromosomes more like

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