Great song, really powerful and Richard Thompson's playing is sublime.
@pauldominic2150
4 жыл бұрын
Richard is unbelievable on this.
@dalewikfors91945 жыл бұрын
I , too lost my father in 88...It still feels like yesterday. Thanks for bearing your soul for us brother. Carry on wayward son
@janman552 жыл бұрын
I can confidently say that Loudon is one of the best song writers of our time. The quality of his body of work spanning over 50 years is astounding.
@jlg3315
9 ай бұрын
i agree and the same is true of the guy at the other end of the stage.
@jlg3315
9 ай бұрын
i agree and the same is true of the guy at the other end of the stage.
@jhahnwx17 ай бұрын
No matter how many times I watch this I am still moved and shaken by this song and he.
@michaelmuldowney84 жыл бұрын
Three favorite singer songwriters of last 50 years. Canada - Stan Rogers Ireland - Gilbert O'Sullivan USA - Loudon Wainwright III
@sauljapuntich
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@janman55
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to throw in John Prine.
@terrencepainter14667 жыл бұрын
Been a fan of his for years , he is like a fine wine the more he ages the better he gets , keep playing your martin
@AntoineMaloney5 жыл бұрын
Some absolutely magic comping here from Richard Thompson, fueled by some amazing invisible communication between Loudon and Richard. Bears repeated listening, and thats before you start to concentrate on what he's singing.
@pauldominic2150
4 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. Been listening to it all day... Richard is _in the zone_...
@lisamischke78085 жыл бұрын
Three of my favorite songwriters.
@suesjoy
4 жыл бұрын
Me too! I watch this videos whenever they pop up! I need to compile them into a playlist!
@stevejenks97353 жыл бұрын
as I said to Loudon when I had the absolute privilege of meeting him at a concert in B'ham a few years ago - his voice has changed since I first saw him nearly 50 yrs ago but it's still great - just different.
@Givingitashot5 жыл бұрын
Loudon is such an unbelievable artist, lyrical genius and by god can he play! Comedy gold too. Thanks for posting this video man, I appreciate it.
@Padraigcoelfir11 жыл бұрын
Wow, my favorite song... You gotta love the bloke. This is genius... Love that...
@TomRAFC12 жыл бұрын
RT's accompaniment takes this song to a whole other level
@martinb62926 жыл бұрын
Great song about life and the shit that comes with it :) got to love it.
@gerardsims63686 жыл бұрын
Louden is so under rated and under appreciated. His originality is incredible. Not only that but his songwriting is so honest, so down to earth and real it is heart wrenching. Not only that but his voice is in such fine form still. I adore this man's approach to songwriting.....
@Stringman19504 жыл бұрын
Nice to see everyone admiring the underrated genius of lwiii like I do. Also think rt is an underrated guitarist and songwriter. This was a really fine show.
@suesjoy
4 жыл бұрын
Three of my favorite singer/songwriters in one go!
@RichardZombie12 жыл бұрын
Beautiful performance from two of the great folk singer songwriters, love it
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
Why not 3? Each deserves a place in pantheon.... Tio Mitchito
@lakeninevah12 жыл бұрын
RT's back-up is tasteful and perfectly fitting to the melody and lyrics. Loudon, though admittedly self-consumed, has done well to try and undo his mistakes through his lyrics, thereby helping all of us~
@Stringman1950
4 жыл бұрын
ken carpenter Lost years I misplaced RT, I found out he was scoring and playing in movie music. What an enjoyable re-awakening I had when I dug out all his old stuff. Pure talent and genius. All the new stuff is a bonus. And, he seems to be a great guy.
@budthebusker Жыл бұрын
So Loudon..... love RT's guitar work as well. Thank You.
@windyworm6 жыл бұрын
I'd forgotten how good Louden's voice is..
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
It (Loud's voice) has gotten good. I've been shlepping to his shows since the early 70's and it was nowheres near as easy on the ears as it is now. His sense of dynamics has finally caught up to his prodigious phrasing skills where much of his charms lay way back at the beginning. All 3 of these recording artists growth in their work and play is evident from recent recordings and gigs like these. But where is this songwriters circle held? Back when there was still a Bottom Line nightclub and there is still the tiny Cornelia Street Cafe, Kettle o Fish and Fast Folk's SPEAKEASY or The Bitter then The Other End. Decades since I've been able to afford even a visit back to the city of my well-spent yoot. Is this one of chandeliered banquet hall something that is part of NYU too? Tio Mitchito Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers) Media Discussion List\Looksee
@randysquires8362 Жыл бұрын
I FEEL YA..... THE MONEY SPENDS.
@bottlebrushmedia4 жыл бұрын
One of the great all time live performances! just beautiful.
@anthrax2199913 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting i had a loudon playlist on here but most of the songs were takin down. really great song by a master singer_songwriter... Thanks again
@kaelamusicuk77313 жыл бұрын
Excellent song and genius lyrics. Love it
@marcob46307 жыл бұрын
A very great and meaningful song
@tomtiddleyompom13 жыл бұрын
what a man! brilliant. seen him in the 70s at birmingham townhall.
@IDriveAnAudi9 жыл бұрын
Wow! Really great. Richard's accompaniment is masterful.
@lostinthelandoflies
9 жыл бұрын
***** More is less
@mikelasater2016
7 жыл бұрын
They did tour together once. The Load and Rich tour. I'm sure they did many numbers together. Sorry I missed it.
@alistairewen9558
3 жыл бұрын
I wish ALL aspiring musicians would watch this concert.
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
@@mikelasater2016 Kinda sure it was the Loud & Rich tour of UK. However I like your name better, The Load and Rich tour. Enough ego there and self-consumption to leave quite a load in their tracks.... Weird though how that is where the good songs come from. Terrific for the counseling and shrinks' billings. Even Loud's family despite giving back as good as they've gotten from self-consumed and often missing Dad, the daughters and his son have chosen to take his name, not their clearly more present and perhaps even gifted Mom's family name of McGarrigle. Life though, Maker please be merciful, ain't either always fair or always kind. Loud does indeed get under our skins with his plainspoken and usually simply strummed or plucked songs and he is the anti-Disney to boot. He makes us look at ourselves and our own behavior and confront the less than handsome or noble behavior. Unlike the Greek tragedians, there's not even catharsis, just left-behind yuckiness and need for a cleansing shower. But damned if he ain't funny while also being true to life.... Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers) Media Discussion List\Looksee
@mikelasater2016
Жыл бұрын
@@ulpana Oh man! I just saw the typo. Ha!
@timallbritton73295 жыл бұрын
Brilliant lyrics. Just amazing.
@stevoschannel41272 жыл бұрын
You better be on top of you game to play on stage with these folks…Which of course he is, Richard Thompson accompanying sure doesn’t hurt.
@teddyboy10009 жыл бұрын
Always able to capture another perspective always brilliant ALWAYS Genius he never let you down
@mic9828 жыл бұрын
As always, with Loudon, what you hear is what you get; no extraneous b.s. and no frivolous non-sense. Sometimes repetitive, but always original.
@tul33311 жыл бұрын
Love that song.
@richphillips7768 жыл бұрын
Sublime...
@Jonners97 Жыл бұрын
Magic, just magic.
@twray18359 жыл бұрын
Louden is absolutely brilliant here. What a grouping of extreme talent!
@dwhalen3366
5 жыл бұрын
Loudon. Not Louden. Not Gordondon.
@suesjoy
4 жыл бұрын
You spelled his name wrong! (That’s a Loudon Song).
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
@@suesjoy Love that song and it ain't only professionals in show biz and promotion biz that keep spelling it wrong. If he hadn't learned to laugh at the absurdities of his line of work and "professional presentation" he mighta got an ulcer! Amazing his face hasn't grown into late stage Zero Mostel's!!!! Tio Mitchito Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers) Media Discussion List\Looksee
@MRTNSPANFD12 жыл бұрын
Stunning
@geebud18808 жыл бұрын
As always ít's Loudons diction, poetry, tongue, concentration + gathering good people around him that hits home... Interesting to see this Key Device mounted on Thompsons guitar :-)
@moceanu
7 жыл бұрын
it's a guitar tuner and it's a very common and cheap device
@davidgill3923
8 ай бұрын
Was going to ask, then I saw your observation.
@dannyd0g
2 ай бұрын
@@moceanu I find it unusual that someone like RT should need such a device. Surely he can tune by ear. Maybe he just wanted to ensure perfect in tune-ness to compliment LW as perfectly as possible. But interesting the different colours, I wonder if the red means some kind of in tune harmonic notes or something. I have the basic model, which only has the one colour of green, but has like a flickering arrow that settles in the middle of the range and goes green when the note is perfectly in tune. I couldn't do without it, as I can't tune by ear. Although I beleieve that most musicians can do this with ease after maybe some time of playing.
@gguti4411 жыл бұрын
This song gives me this feeling that i can't describe. It's a feeling between happy and sadness. It's not a bad feeling but...idk....
@14wAYNE6 жыл бұрын
Sublime. I'd like to see Loudon and Richard record together
@RobBaartwijk
5 жыл бұрын
Erm... They have LOTS of times. Check out 'Reader and advisor', to name one. ;) kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZal0tJpd9vQo8Y.html
@MrK9nny13 жыл бұрын
this song is amazing!!!!!
@r383011 жыл бұрын
This performance is great!
@robbcorless73706 жыл бұрын
So Powerful...
@georgembennett95133 жыл бұрын
Well, that’s life.
@GiuseppeGrasso8910 жыл бұрын
dark and beautiful
@kaliopeaariosto48166 жыл бұрын
Powerful.
@seymills5 жыл бұрын
wow !
@cdbeckm9 жыл бұрын
Loudon!
@jrdavisphd5 жыл бұрын
Genius
@tooterlix13 жыл бұрын
WOW...
@dreamwell2020 Жыл бұрын
If you dug this, check out "Surviving Twin."
@Padraigcoelfir11 жыл бұрын
Been poor, for a long time, so I had to get stuff from dead man... And it feels like that... It's a gloomy feeling. Dead man pants and a dead man shirt... Damn...
@CustomAnthemsMusicProductions5 жыл бұрын
Very good
@HarryTheHacker5512 жыл бұрын
Wow is right!
@zile2179 жыл бұрын
I am dead man too...
@mrsterripurcell11 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree the little that he did only added to a fine performance
@allyoursphotography110 жыл бұрын
The old Loudo does it again - much prefer his grim terrifying stuff to his chirpy annoying stuff.
@peterzang
10 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer it if you didn't make any remarks. Half of Loudon's output? Not too much of a generalization. STFU.
@allyoursphotography1
10 жыл бұрын
That's a shame, I'll take that to heart. Don't want to trample on your preferences, do we? Surely there is nothing more important. Some people have different opinions to you, get over it.
@johnwalker7788
7 жыл бұрын
Probably a snowflake hiding in a safe bunker! ;-)
@anthonypicco7811
5 жыл бұрын
I love his serious dark stuff, but for me, the lighter stuff balances it out... been a fan since 1971
@bobmat5411 жыл бұрын
Is this available on DVD?
@yazstar93428 жыл бұрын
Jonny Depp in 'Dead Man' is so cool cos his best friend is 'Nobody'..very nice guitars eh..
@markdavis24725 жыл бұрын
Fucking genuine
@willduke328 жыл бұрын
What Loudon Wainwright album is Dead Man on? I can't find it on iTunes?
@PHJimY10 жыл бұрын
Is this song on the "Rich & Loud" album That Richard Thompson and Loudon Wainwright III did together?
@brianschroth7078
10 жыл бұрын
This song is on the box set "40 Odd Years". I don't think there is a Loud & Rich album, though they do occasionally tour together.
@MissLovesMusic12 жыл бұрын
does anyone know where the tab for this is?
@burpo12 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that RT's tuner was on the whole time.
@alistairewen9558
3 жыл бұрын
It must have had a job keeping up!!!!
@RocketLR7 жыл бұрын
Why cant i find this on Spotify >.
@RobBaartwijk
5 жыл бұрын
Because Spotify is for losers who are only interested in big sellers? ;)
@pikiwiki3 жыл бұрын
he rocked and he didn't even have an amp
@h4wklord10 жыл бұрын
with all these louden songs, dead puppies is no where to be seen. what, too controversial?
@EnosEverything
10 жыл бұрын
" THEY SPELT MY NAME WRONG AGAIN...". !!!!... Christ almighty Kelly - get with it.
@fredfat16065 жыл бұрын
whats vega doing there other than watch genius at work
@Stringman1950
4 жыл бұрын
She does so respectfully. No prima donna. Its obvious who the geniuses are. Cheers.
@conclix11 жыл бұрын
Guess we can agree to disagree.
@conclix12 жыл бұрын
Wish RT had just left Loudon to it...
@conclix11 жыл бұрын
Do you think RT gets it? You know... the subject matter? Oh the irony...
@johnnybs75 жыл бұрын
Suzanne vega totally out of her depth between these two
@pauldominic2150
4 жыл бұрын
Suzanne is OK right where she is.
@mooseven
3 жыл бұрын
She's the best singer on that stage. Richard's the best guitarist, Loudon's the best raconteur and entertainer, but Suzanne is the better singer.
Пікірлер: 106
Great song, really powerful and Richard Thompson's playing is sublime.
@pauldominic2150
4 жыл бұрын
Richard is unbelievable on this.
I , too lost my father in 88...It still feels like yesterday. Thanks for bearing your soul for us brother. Carry on wayward son
I can confidently say that Loudon is one of the best song writers of our time. The quality of his body of work spanning over 50 years is astounding.
@jlg3315
9 ай бұрын
i agree and the same is true of the guy at the other end of the stage.
@jlg3315
9 ай бұрын
i agree and the same is true of the guy at the other end of the stage.
No matter how many times I watch this I am still moved and shaken by this song and he.
Three favorite singer songwriters of last 50 years. Canada - Stan Rogers Ireland - Gilbert O'Sullivan USA - Loudon Wainwright III
@sauljapuntich
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@janman55
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to throw in John Prine.
Been a fan of his for years , he is like a fine wine the more he ages the better he gets , keep playing your martin
Some absolutely magic comping here from Richard Thompson, fueled by some amazing invisible communication between Loudon and Richard. Bears repeated listening, and thats before you start to concentrate on what he's singing.
@pauldominic2150
4 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. Been listening to it all day... Richard is _in the zone_...
Three of my favorite songwriters.
@suesjoy
4 жыл бұрын
Me too! I watch this videos whenever they pop up! I need to compile them into a playlist!
as I said to Loudon when I had the absolute privilege of meeting him at a concert in B'ham a few years ago - his voice has changed since I first saw him nearly 50 yrs ago but it's still great - just different.
Loudon is such an unbelievable artist, lyrical genius and by god can he play! Comedy gold too. Thanks for posting this video man, I appreciate it.
Wow, my favorite song... You gotta love the bloke. This is genius... Love that...
RT's accompaniment takes this song to a whole other level
Great song about life and the shit that comes with it :) got to love it.
Louden is so under rated and under appreciated. His originality is incredible. Not only that but his songwriting is so honest, so down to earth and real it is heart wrenching. Not only that but his voice is in such fine form still. I adore this man's approach to songwriting.....
Nice to see everyone admiring the underrated genius of lwiii like I do. Also think rt is an underrated guitarist and songwriter. This was a really fine show.
@suesjoy
4 жыл бұрын
Three of my favorite singer/songwriters in one go!
Beautiful performance from two of the great folk singer songwriters, love it
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
Why not 3? Each deserves a place in pantheon.... Tio Mitchito
RT's back-up is tasteful and perfectly fitting to the melody and lyrics. Loudon, though admittedly self-consumed, has done well to try and undo his mistakes through his lyrics, thereby helping all of us~
@Stringman1950
4 жыл бұрын
ken carpenter Lost years I misplaced RT, I found out he was scoring and playing in movie music. What an enjoyable re-awakening I had when I dug out all his old stuff. Pure talent and genius. All the new stuff is a bonus. And, he seems to be a great guy.
So Loudon..... love RT's guitar work as well. Thank You.
I'd forgotten how good Louden's voice is..
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
It (Loud's voice) has gotten good. I've been shlepping to his shows since the early 70's and it was nowheres near as easy on the ears as it is now. His sense of dynamics has finally caught up to his prodigious phrasing skills where much of his charms lay way back at the beginning. All 3 of these recording artists growth in their work and play is evident from recent recordings and gigs like these. But where is this songwriters circle held? Back when there was still a Bottom Line nightclub and there is still the tiny Cornelia Street Cafe, Kettle o Fish and Fast Folk's SPEAKEASY or The Bitter then The Other End. Decades since I've been able to afford even a visit back to the city of my well-spent yoot. Is this one of chandeliered banquet hall something that is part of NYU too? Tio Mitchito Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers) Media Discussion List\Looksee
I FEEL YA..... THE MONEY SPENDS.
One of the great all time live performances! just beautiful.
Thank you for posting i had a loudon playlist on here but most of the songs were takin down. really great song by a master singer_songwriter... Thanks again
Excellent song and genius lyrics. Love it
A very great and meaningful song
what a man! brilliant. seen him in the 70s at birmingham townhall.
Wow! Really great. Richard's accompaniment is masterful.
@lostinthelandoflies
9 жыл бұрын
***** More is less
@mikelasater2016
7 жыл бұрын
They did tour together once. The Load and Rich tour. I'm sure they did many numbers together. Sorry I missed it.
@alistairewen9558
3 жыл бұрын
I wish ALL aspiring musicians would watch this concert.
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
@@mikelasater2016 Kinda sure it was the Loud & Rich tour of UK. However I like your name better, The Load and Rich tour. Enough ego there and self-consumption to leave quite a load in their tracks.... Weird though how that is where the good songs come from. Terrific for the counseling and shrinks' billings. Even Loud's family despite giving back as good as they've gotten from self-consumed and often missing Dad, the daughters and his son have chosen to take his name, not their clearly more present and perhaps even gifted Mom's family name of McGarrigle. Life though, Maker please be merciful, ain't either always fair or always kind. Loud does indeed get under our skins with his plainspoken and usually simply strummed or plucked songs and he is the anti-Disney to boot. He makes us look at ourselves and our own behavior and confront the less than handsome or noble behavior. Unlike the Greek tragedians, there's not even catharsis, just left-behind yuckiness and need for a cleansing shower. But damned if he ain't funny while also being true to life.... Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers) Media Discussion List\Looksee
@mikelasater2016
Жыл бұрын
@@ulpana Oh man! I just saw the typo. Ha!
Brilliant lyrics. Just amazing.
You better be on top of you game to play on stage with these folks…Which of course he is, Richard Thompson accompanying sure doesn’t hurt.
Always able to capture another perspective always brilliant ALWAYS Genius he never let you down
As always, with Loudon, what you hear is what you get; no extraneous b.s. and no frivolous non-sense. Sometimes repetitive, but always original.
Love that song.
Sublime...
Magic, just magic.
Louden is absolutely brilliant here. What a grouping of extreme talent!
@dwhalen3366
5 жыл бұрын
Loudon. Not Louden. Not Gordondon.
@suesjoy
4 жыл бұрын
You spelled his name wrong! (That’s a Loudon Song).
@ulpana
Жыл бұрын
@@suesjoy Love that song and it ain't only professionals in show biz and promotion biz that keep spelling it wrong. If he hadn't learned to laugh at the absurdities of his line of work and "professional presentation" he mighta got an ulcer! Amazing his face hasn't grown into late stage Zero Mostel's!!!! Tio Mitchito Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers) Media Discussion List\Looksee
Stunning
As always ít's Loudons diction, poetry, tongue, concentration + gathering good people around him that hits home... Interesting to see this Key Device mounted on Thompsons guitar :-)
@moceanu
7 жыл бұрын
it's a guitar tuner and it's a very common and cheap device
@davidgill3923
8 ай бұрын
Was going to ask, then I saw your observation.
@dannyd0g
2 ай бұрын
@@moceanu I find it unusual that someone like RT should need such a device. Surely he can tune by ear. Maybe he just wanted to ensure perfect in tune-ness to compliment LW as perfectly as possible. But interesting the different colours, I wonder if the red means some kind of in tune harmonic notes or something. I have the basic model, which only has the one colour of green, but has like a flickering arrow that settles in the middle of the range and goes green when the note is perfectly in tune. I couldn't do without it, as I can't tune by ear. Although I beleieve that most musicians can do this with ease after maybe some time of playing.
This song gives me this feeling that i can't describe. It's a feeling between happy and sadness. It's not a bad feeling but...idk....
Sublime. I'd like to see Loudon and Richard record together
@RobBaartwijk
5 жыл бұрын
Erm... They have LOTS of times. Check out 'Reader and advisor', to name one. ;) kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZal0tJpd9vQo8Y.html
this song is amazing!!!!!
This performance is great!
So Powerful...
Well, that’s life.
dark and beautiful
Powerful.
wow !
Loudon!
Genius
WOW...
If you dug this, check out "Surviving Twin."
Been poor, for a long time, so I had to get stuff from dead man... And it feels like that... It's a gloomy feeling. Dead man pants and a dead man shirt... Damn...
Very good
Wow is right!
I am dead man too...
Couldn't agree the little that he did only added to a fine performance
The old Loudo does it again - much prefer his grim terrifying stuff to his chirpy annoying stuff.
@peterzang
10 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer it if you didn't make any remarks. Half of Loudon's output? Not too much of a generalization. STFU.
@allyoursphotography1
10 жыл бұрын
That's a shame, I'll take that to heart. Don't want to trample on your preferences, do we? Surely there is nothing more important. Some people have different opinions to you, get over it.
@johnwalker7788
7 жыл бұрын
Probably a snowflake hiding in a safe bunker! ;-)
@anthonypicco7811
5 жыл бұрын
I love his serious dark stuff, but for me, the lighter stuff balances it out... been a fan since 1971
Is this available on DVD?
Jonny Depp in 'Dead Man' is so cool cos his best friend is 'Nobody'..very nice guitars eh..
Fucking genuine
What Loudon Wainwright album is Dead Man on? I can't find it on iTunes?
Is this song on the "Rich & Loud" album That Richard Thompson and Loudon Wainwright III did together?
@brianschroth7078
10 жыл бұрын
This song is on the box set "40 Odd Years". I don't think there is a Loud & Rich album, though they do occasionally tour together.
does anyone know where the tab for this is?
I think it's funny that RT's tuner was on the whole time.
@alistairewen9558
3 жыл бұрын
It must have had a job keeping up!!!!
Why cant i find this on Spotify >.
@RobBaartwijk
5 жыл бұрын
Because Spotify is for losers who are only interested in big sellers? ;)
he rocked and he didn't even have an amp
with all these louden songs, dead puppies is no where to be seen. what, too controversial?
@EnosEverything
10 жыл бұрын
" THEY SPELT MY NAME WRONG AGAIN...". !!!!... Christ almighty Kelly - get with it.
whats vega doing there other than watch genius at work
@Stringman1950
4 жыл бұрын
She does so respectfully. No prima donna. Its obvious who the geniuses are. Cheers.
Guess we can agree to disagree.
Wish RT had just left Loudon to it...
Do you think RT gets it? You know... the subject matter? Oh the irony...
Suzanne vega totally out of her depth between these two
@pauldominic2150
4 жыл бұрын
Suzanne is OK right where she is.
@mooseven
3 жыл бұрын
She's the best singer on that stage. Richard's the best guitarist, Loudon's the best raconteur and entertainer, but Suzanne is the better singer.