This whole expedition is so fascinating

Just as exciting hearing you tell it as it must have been!

Wonderful presentation.

Thank you!

What I wonder is if they have been able to get into the boat and retrieve the charts. They have been talking about that for quite some time now

thank you very much for this

Um,um,um,um,um. Could not finish this painfully listening to um so much.

20:49 Another reason a bunch of hungry dudes might have headed for Back's Great Fish River is the key word *fish*...

Speaking of the boat place, what happened to the boat that was discovered? Did it rot away over time after it was initially discovered? Similarly do the cairns the messages were recovered from still exist or did those get lost or dismantle as the decades went by?

@aaronmason7710

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the Inuit eventually found and mostly broke down the boat for the wood. Some of the cairns still exist but they've pretty much all been broken down somewhat by either the Inuit scavenging them, or the investigation teams looking for documents.

@aaronz7056

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronmason7710 Pity. I understand they found at least one journal on one of the wrecks but I haven't heard it it's been recovered or told them anything.

@thenumbah1birdman

6 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if it's THE boat from the McClintock boat place, but there is part of a ship's boat from the Franklim expedition on display at the Maritime Museum in Greenwich I believe.

Should of went straight instead of hitting that left huh?

@garethjames1300

2 жыл бұрын

Nope the modern route goes the same way also straight ahead was ice pack so couldn't go that way !

@kscott2655

2 жыл бұрын

It was full of impassable ice, as it often is even today. Ice pack is incredibly common here and most who actually do traverse through do turn south and follow very close to the route Franklin's expedition was trying to take. Unfortunately, the mid- and late-1840s had some of the coldest years on record and the ice didn't melt even in summer.

@stewartlancaster6155

Жыл бұрын

should have , not should of

The “ums” get better as the lecture goes on. Stick with it. Excellent work. Thanks for sharing. I must say his evidence of global warming is light

"And in this photo, here I am again standing next to someone else who found something...". Science.

durrrrrrrr bet

How many of the 'um um ahh um' commenters are prepared to link us to their own public presentations for comparison? 🤔

Urm,,,,,urm,,,,,,, I'm sorry this looks really interesting but 5 mins in and his urm count is off the scale.

UHHH UM UHH UM UHHH God please try to cut down on that shit

I think that the possibility of at least some of the Franklin expedition being killed by the local Inuit is realistic. It has become a taboo subject and it is politically incorrect to question the lifestyle or motives of indigenous people but one of the Inuit groups who inhabited or visited the area of Prince William Island were the Ukjulingmiut who were being pushed to the extremities of the area by the neighbouring and more aggressive Netsilingmiut. All the Inuit reports of sightings and contact with the Franklin party are from Netsilingmiut oral history, since the Ukjulingmiut died out about 1850 after becoming the victims of famine and inter tribal violence. The Erebus and Terror had 14 Marines on board so it could be presumed that professional soldiers might be needed, for defence, perhaps. It's hard to imagine why soldiers would be on board if violent attack was not a possibility, the only likelyhood being from the Inuit. A number of Franklin party remains have been found on islets, either separated by mud or sea from the main island. These might have made defensive positions. This whole scenario is little spoken of. Perhaps it should be.

@biffwellington1782

2 жыл бұрын

That is an interesting take. Of course it is a possibility. Would love for someone to research this and see what they come up with.

@garethjames1300

2 жыл бұрын

All royal navy ships had marines it was standard practice I dont think they were there due to violent locals

@gerrycalhoun9827

2 жыл бұрын

lol you'd be hard pressed to find a RN ship without marines for the past 200 years

@skinWalkman

2 жыл бұрын

The purpose of Marines on ship is multifaceted. Yes marines would be there as a line of defense against hostilities but they were also attached to every Royal Navy ship since the conception of the Royal Marines. They also would have been used as lookouts, scouts, lead hunting parties and in some instances serve as impromptu Master at Arms for the ships. I don’t think they anticipated or even heavily considered hostilities from the local population due to the nature of the mission.

@barriejonas338

2 жыл бұрын

@Alfred Weber I agree. It's just that it has become taboo to even think that locals may have had a hand in the crew's fate.

Too many um’s

They had plenty of there stuff including personal items. It was the same guy that eary on talked about cannibalism that wrote about it. I think they robbed the bodies. I can't see them risking an attack against well armed men that were clearly going to die soon enough.

Uh..umm...uh....ummm....uh...

I had to slow down the playback speed gonna make my head pop so so so uh um um vomit

Too many um’s ..

boring