Long Tube Vs Shorty Headers

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Learn the different performance characteristics of the two most common header styles: long-tube (full-length) and shorty headers. Carl explains how each header design can improve your vehicle performance. www.summitracing.com/redirect...

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  • @teejay622
    @teejay6224 жыл бұрын

    I like how at 3:15 he says "if you have questions, ask them in the comment section below" but then not a single reply to any of the questions.

  • @shannonquickly717

    @shannonquickly717

    4 жыл бұрын

    If it's about the #exhaustpipe, I might be able to help you

  • @Akhazmat907

    @Akhazmat907

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even if they did answer your question it would be wrong.I have emails of them arguing with me, trying to tell me my 92 f150 has rear disk breaks. They are drums, I even sent a picture of the drums to the idiot and he said that's not a 92 f150. They are about as useful as a bag of dicks

  • @nickwebb9937

    @nickwebb9937

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chris Lesemann cause they have a bunch of 20 year old guys with no common sense working with them

  • @demogorilla

    @demogorilla

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Akhazmat907 as useless as your spelling teacher. Hahaha

  • @Akhazmat907

    @Akhazmat907

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@demogorilla ha ha. I remember that night. I was drunk and still pissed off from the night before, when that happened. Actually I'm pretty sure my English teacher would smack me in the back of the head.

  • @DarthChiropractus
    @DarthChiropractus5 жыл бұрын

    Can y'all turn the music off. No need to be headbanging while learning this stuff

  • @Moparmaga-1

    @Moparmaga-1

    5 жыл бұрын

    What I can't hear you, I'm headbanging

  • @artlife6210

    @artlife6210

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ask and destroy lol

  • @user-nb5pl1kj8t

    @user-nb5pl1kj8t

    5 жыл бұрын

    Would you like it to be the same rap bullshit on every fucking car vid?

  • @Brandon-mf5uh

    @Brandon-mf5uh

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@user-nb5pl1kj8t Wow you got butthurt over a funny comment lmao

  • @user-nb5pl1kj8t

    @user-nb5pl1kj8t

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Brandon-mf5uh nobody gives a shit about your challenger, another typical " hey check out the cold start on my 392, dont it sound bitchen?" Just fuckin with all these boards playing shit music and cold starts. Reminds me when we were kids saying " check out those tits" Wish it would go back to that. What do you think about that butthurt Brandon 392??

  • @mickmiller8217
    @mickmiller82172 жыл бұрын

    Cmon y’all this is the first KZread video I’ve seen in a long time that got straight to the point without an entire life story and history of the channel. Good job dude!

  • @andrewchristianson2086
    @andrewchristianson20865 жыл бұрын

    Vacuum scavenging.. very interesting. Thanks for the info! Will probably be a long while before I look into getting any of these.

  • @29nickmiller
    @29nickmiller3 жыл бұрын

    I've got tuned shorties on my 2015 SS 1/LE, love the low end. I've often wondered if I should have done the long tubes - now I think I made the right move. GREAT explanation. It's still on the stock exhaust from the mid back, but I do like the sound, don't think I'll ever go full aftermarket. Chevy did start adding the X-pipe on the 2016s and newer, so I am getting ready to do that. Looking forward to the possible scavenge gains and the sound!

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching, Nick!

  • @flbizowner9384

    @flbizowner9384

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m with you man. I have shorties on a Saleen S281 and the Low end torque will glue you to your seat. I did lose on highways gains but there’s something special about hitting 70 mph in second gear in 5 seconds!

  • @nordmenn0855
    @nordmenn08555 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining it in simple english

  • @greggarner4477
    @greggarner44775 жыл бұрын

    I put shorty headers on my 90 k1500 and did get a "seat of the pants" performance increase over the stock manifolds. It is a tow vehicle so I need the low end torque and bottom end. So for the cost of replacement I am very happy. Not to mention the installation was a breeze.

  • @angelocasio3635
    @angelocasio36352 жыл бұрын

    great video short and to the point !! Thank you !

  • @icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs
    @icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs6 жыл бұрын

    I put zoomies on my 2.3L ranger. They stick out of the fender on the passenger side and are about 20 inches long. Don't know if it did anything for power, but it sounds badass!!

  • @ghostface12258
    @ghostface122583 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Carl for clearing that up.

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Spencer!

  • @regiyah
    @regiyah2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Straight to the point. Thank you!!

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @yota243
    @yota2436 жыл бұрын

    Shorties do have easier bends than cast manifolds and they alsonhave larger primaries typically than LT. for drivability shorties typically offer more benefit than LT especially in a truck where low end is more desired than top end. You will see an improvement below peak torque with shorties verses simply a higher number at peak torque with LT. it really comes down to how high your engine revs past peak torque and how often you drive past peak torque.

  • @ShyaMiss

    @ShyaMiss

    4 жыл бұрын

    Completely false that shorties are better down low vs long tubes. Quality long tube headers that are appropriately sized for the engine, will outperform shorties at ALL rpm ranges.

  • @nickwebb9937

    @nickwebb9937

    4 жыл бұрын

    wlabishler 1 yea but shortys will still help in the low end

  • @ShyaMiss

    @ShyaMiss

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nickwebb9937 to some extent. But it REALLY varies based on the engine we are talking about. Pretty much any late model v-8, comes stock with cast manifolds that are damn near shorties anyway. The GM LS based truck engines are a great example of this. Shorties will gain almost nothing, if they do actually gain anything. Longtubes can be a pretty obvious change, assuming they are appropriately sized. I personally would not go through the effort of swapping out the manifolds, unless you have one that is cracked for instance. In that case, you have to pull stuff apart anyway, no harm in replacing the cast parts with some short tubes. I have done this very thing for that reason. More recently, I put some longtubes on a Vortec Max 6.0, the difference was pretty big. The most noticeable part was actually under the curve, not at peak.

  • @nickwebb9937

    @nickwebb9937

    4 жыл бұрын

    wlabishler 1 yea I put shortys on my 91 c1500 it helped a bit but the manifolds on it were very restricted

  • @chrissagredo7129

    @chrissagredo7129

    4 жыл бұрын

    wlabishler 1 it all comes down to application. On my 86 Bronco here in California shorty’s are my best bet. I can’t stroke my motor or do much to it at all aside from heads and a mild cam (my efi is antique and I have smog to deal with). Sure they more closely resemble manifolds, especially in newer cars, but 80’s motors were literally strangled to death. Shorties will be a huge upgrade over my stock manifolds and it lets me still run my cats and everything from a stock location, and I get better torque over stock.

  • @robertemmons2260
    @robertemmons22603 жыл бұрын

    I've had a set of long tubes on my '68 C10 327 since 2006 when I had rebuilt my motor. Fortunately I had plenty of room to install them. Never had an issue overheating the starter. At the 2:20 mark I've scraped my header flanges at times, and my truck is at stock height. I'll have to replace my headers with the short tubes or a set of ram horns when I perform the 4/6 drop.

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching, Robert!

  • @EYE_SPIDER
    @EYE_SPIDER3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome explanation!

  • @rogerodle8750
    @rogerodle87502 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Carl -- very informative.

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching, Roger!

  • @sbjennings99
    @sbjennings995 жыл бұрын

    Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk284 жыл бұрын

    You can help the shorty tubes scavenge better by putting a fueling pinch in the header tubes with in about 6 to 8 in of the cylinder head. I've seen it done with a lot of success especially on things like Harley engines.

  • @standhd

    @standhd

    Жыл бұрын

    What is a fueling pinch?

  • @abee2144
    @abee21446 жыл бұрын

    I just bought some hedman shorties for my 05 Yukon. Hopefully i will be satisfied when I install them Saturday

  • @treenutz360

    @treenutz360

    4 жыл бұрын

    How did install go?

  • @oonothin

    @oonothin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@treenutz360 He dead. Car jack failed and it fell on him.

  • @praedyththelost3753

    @praedyththelost3753

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bobbys Dad yup R.I.P.

  • @musclebone7875
    @musclebone78756 жыл бұрын

    Long tube makes more power! Shorty's are good for fitment problems.

  • @thomashayes7423

    @thomashayes7423

    5 жыл бұрын

    Brian Samuels long tube give low end power cause they flow better. That already gives more power and I never had to remove my starter to put headers on my 83 k5 blazer

  • @V8AmericanMuscleCar

    @V8AmericanMuscleCar

    5 жыл бұрын

    thomas hayes did you notice more low end power with long tubes? They said that short tubes are for low end power but I want long tubes because I want more power at high rpms and I don’t want to loose low end power. :-)

  • @SOU6900

    @SOU6900

    4 жыл бұрын

    So what's good for torque then in a 85 C30 with a big block? Needs to be set up for smog system btw.

  • @jrod264winmag

    @jrod264winmag

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SOU6900 just get 1-3/4" long tubes for the 454. You can get them with a 02 bung for the sensor. This is the header you want trust me.

  • @SOU6900

    @SOU6900

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jrod264winmag but she doesn't use an o2 sensor...

  • @TerkeyStone
    @TerkeyStone3 ай бұрын

    Straight to the point I like him

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching !

  • @joeyjojojr.shabadoo915
    @joeyjojojr.shabadoo9152 жыл бұрын

    *PTSD FLASHBACK* after seeing the Driver's side shorty header on the right and remembering my SBC S10 square body days with the steering shaft that had to go in between the header tubes and learning the hard way that I should have also installed solid motor mounts rather than old rubber x-member side mounts (huge pee shiver...rr...rrr...)

  • @alfonsoramos5597
    @alfonsoramos55975 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video about high flow catalytic convertors?

  • @russellboyd5262
    @russellboyd52623 жыл бұрын

    I have longtube hookers headers on my 1977 torch red vette.On older cars headers are sick.I would not put them on a modern car,My car is 44 years old,I also put on a high performance exhaust manifold,and flowmaster 40 mufflers.It sound awesome.added about 22 more horsepower,but i did it for the sound,the sound rocks the house for sure.thanks russ.

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your feedback, Russell! I bet that does sound nice.

  • @jasonhakala6489
    @jasonhakala64896 жыл бұрын

    On my Mustangs I noticed way more torque. More power at the top end from the long tube headers. I've had multiple cars with each and if I ever build another car it will definitely be long tube.

  • @NickFortier

    @NickFortier

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even more power buy swapping in a bow tie ;)

  • @ronaldlewis4032

    @ronaldlewis4032

    3 жыл бұрын

    You know your serious when you run long tube headers!!

  • @5point0h67
    @5point0h676 жыл бұрын

    Looks like I wasted money on shorty headers. Oh well. The deeper tone to my exhaust and the better response in the low end is quite nice though

  • @XHikotheproX

    @XHikotheproX

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tony 3.7 I've got a 3.7 as well. Don't worry. MPT says that shorties do add airflow.

  • @bigsean2473

    @bigsean2473

    6 жыл бұрын

    u didnt waste your money. where do you spend most of your driving rpm at?? not at the top end so u are getting what u paid for. long tubes are good if u drive your car wide open a lot, other than that u dont get the benefit of the long tube headers. just my opinion for an everyday driver shorties of mid length is the way to go

  • @5point0h67

    @5point0h67

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sean Hamre thanks! Yeah I mean I never even go to the track or anything I just daily drive and occasionally I’ll race someone but it’s literally nothing above 60 mph anyway. If I do it’s just red light races from a stop

  • @santosguerra1349

    @santosguerra1349

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sorry noob question but what does low end mean here is that referring to low rpm?

  • @josephcitizen654

    @josephcitizen654

    6 жыл бұрын

    Santos Guerra yes low end rpm's

  • @nikkosoriano
    @nikkosoriano6 жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for this informative video. I want to ask, do stainless steel headers and exhaust pipes give better performance increase over those non-stainless pipes or are those just for looks/aesthetics? Thank you!

  • @MrCmcmanus59
    @MrCmcmanus596 жыл бұрын

    02 Silverado 1500 4wd. Dailey driver. Plan on installing a 222/224 cam, and upgrading timing chain, lifters, pushrods, rockers, springs, intake, and throttle body. Also plan on installing a cold air intake. I don't drive wide open hardly. Would shorties be better for me?

  • @antor.j.medrano
    @antor.j.medrano4 жыл бұрын

    Love this video.

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @antor.j.medrano

    @antor.j.medrano

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SummitRacing omg so informative! The day I finally buy my dream Camaro ZL1 I will consider summit racing.

  • @angelmartinez5990
    @angelmartinez59905 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been looking for some headers for a 94 f150 with the 300 inline 6. Does summit carry any?

  • @payton5759
    @payton5759 Жыл бұрын

    Have you made a video on the benefits of shorty headers vs stock manifolds? You said those perform more like stock, but are they worth buying aside from looks alone?

  • @silverhoof0152
    @silverhoof01524 жыл бұрын

    That intro, I heard that v8 sound from rev heads phone app.

  • @AliAlhussaini

    @AliAlhussaini

    4 жыл бұрын

    SilverHoof01 I agree

  • @jessewinget1347
    @jessewinget13475 жыл бұрын

    Having trouble finding a good fit for headers for a 351 fe in a 1963 galaxie. Thoughts?

  • @Rockinruffhouser
    @Rockinruffhouser4 жыл бұрын

    I’ll go for shortys. My long tubes keep heating my starter. And cooking my wires

  • @Aqua350Lt1

    @Aqua350Lt1

    4 жыл бұрын

    sal alvarez I just got shortys

  • @booniekc

    @booniekc

    3 жыл бұрын

    What kind of car u got? Will it do that to my 97 camaro?

  • @kenshinhimura9387

    @kenshinhimura9387

    3 жыл бұрын

    @erik torres Don't drive in the rain or in water. Problem solved.

  • @sategllib2191

    @sategllib2191

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kenshinhimura9387 If it's even sitting out overnight moisture will build up.

  • @mrelectron6220

    @mrelectron6220

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@booniekc heres the deal if your headers run close to the starter they make self stick heat rejection mat. While your starters out install it around the starter motor. You can also get fiberglass like material made into a tube you can slip over wires that run near the headers. You can make a heat sheild out of some old coffee cans or soup cans. The thing is to look at how close stuffs going to be and fix it before you melt stuff or heat soak your starter.

  • @abiamiamab9677
    @abiamiamab96774 жыл бұрын

    I like this.

  • @dustinschmidt9101
    @dustinschmidt91015 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2010 ford f150 5.4 with a flowmaster catback dual exhaust and a K&N 57 series cold air intake. I'm curious if I could do long tube headers with this configuration or should I stick to shorty headers? I'm also going to do a tune with this header install.

  • @nicksgroi6287
    @nicksgroi62875 жыл бұрын

    what is a good set up for a 2002 ws6 tubes set for that year trans am. I just bought this car with only 27k on it.

  • @alsmith7270
    @alsmith72702 жыл бұрын

    He should have mentioned, the more an engine is built the more important it becomes to use high quality long tube headers, I've been building 600 horse 2nd gen LT1road racing engines, the build is not complete until a good set of long tube headers go on.

  • @JulianFRosales
    @JulianFRosales3 жыл бұрын

    How do you determine the collector size on a short header for a small block?

  • @sawyersmallwood8028
    @sawyersmallwood80286 жыл бұрын

    Which would be better for a 429 cj in a 79 f100? Consider the big block won’t be revved to the moon in order to get max output

  • @soggybottomboys2792
    @soggybottomboys27925 жыл бұрын

    Would it make sense to get a cam optimized for high RPM if I get a shorty header and if i got a long tube headers i would want a cam optimized for low rpm power?

  • @richardried4197
    @richardried41972 жыл бұрын

    What header and exhaust set up would you recommend for a 96 k3500 with a 5.7 in it? I'm doing a cold air intake and high flow fuel pump. I may do a cam later down the road.

  • @davidgutierrez8902
    @davidgutierrez89025 жыл бұрын

    I always wanted long tube headers but my car is low and also they might not fit my h-pipe. I was going to get shorty headers because I already have no catalyst. What would my best option be?

  • @7071t6
    @7071t66 жыл бұрын

    All this is great news for older less complicated engines and car systems, but for those new cars which have fuel injection systems and have a lot of electrical systems under the hood, you need to consider what benefits you will get and what the cost of those benefits will be after changing the factory headers to 4 into 1's or Try y headers, in fact the best ones to use is based on how you drive the new car, so basically if you want more HP down low range ie: 1,500 to around the 4 K mark then use try y headers or shortys, but if your going to track days a lot or street drags, then 4 into 14 would be best, but dont forget, then most tunner places will say you need 4 into 1 headers, but what they dont tell you is they will tune your engine to the headers and thus you engine will make approx 50 HP at the rear wheels for a new Chevy SS for example, but also they dont tell you you need the rest of the system as well, meaning the CATS and CAT back system installed as well, but in reality you will get just as much HP just by a tune of the same engine, they will not tell you this because the business is about selling the headers and also they do not tell you that the headers need ceramic coating due to the extreme heat under the hood and how close your electrical system,s are to the headers especially the chevy Ss which has electrical steering system. So please make sure if your going to get Headers for your car to kook if the model comes out with factory performance headers for the same make and model of your car, like for example the holden SS o chevy SS has HSB or holden special Veichacl which then you can by the HSV headers which come out with TRY Y headers on some models and will give your just as much performance but cost you only 1/4 of the price and specially if get the same try y headers from HSV and have them ceramic coated :)

  • @bishop5537
    @bishop55372 жыл бұрын

    My biggest concern is fitment on a 289 66 mustang coupe. I would go with the shortys if need be, but would prefer long tube. I have an AOD tranny in there, that creates a bit of a problem. What would you guys suggest?

  • @jigandy5038
    @jigandy50384 жыл бұрын

    For my 4.6 2v ford which one to I wanna order from your website? I'm doing a light NA build and wanna do a full dual exhaust

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you are doing it for more power for towing/hauling, I would recommend the shorty. If you are doing it for performance, I would recommend the full length.

  • @zacharykeith5464
    @zacharykeith54644 жыл бұрын

    I have a 1995 dodge ram 1500 with the 360 v8 do you sale headers for the mentioned truck. I am currently looking for long tube headers if that helps at all

  • @lamas214
    @lamas2146 жыл бұрын

    So i should go long tube headers and a x pipe for my 03 Mustang GT RS1?

  • @lenrobledo67
    @lenrobledo676 жыл бұрын

    what about for a 62 Impala? what kind of headers are available for those models im keeping it stock but more power

  • @seranthonybeatty4959
    @seranthonybeatty49596 жыл бұрын

    I'm getting a 2.3l turbo coupe, what would you day the best way to go is?

  • @axelakaHITMAN
    @axelakaHITMAN4 жыл бұрын

    Can i connect shortie headers to stock exhaust? And is there a difference in sound between stock manifold and these 2 types?

  • @longisland5161
    @longisland51616 жыл бұрын

    so if i change my manifold and ported throttle and it gives me mid range and top end gains do you go with short headers for the idle to mid range power up front or long and basically just gain everything from mid to top end ?

  • @deantoniobest3046
    @deantoniobest30464 жыл бұрын

    I have a 1987 Chevy caprice ls with a 400 sbc would the long tube headers fit my car

  • @obsgarcia9930
    @obsgarcia99304 жыл бұрын

    What do you guys recommend for a 1996 Chevy Silverado c1500 5.0 I don’t really know what camshaft to buy and if I should buy long tubes or shorties ? Let me know

  • @dono624
    @dono6246 жыл бұрын

    The way it was explained to me not too long ago is that before computer modeling and flow profiling this was a general rule and if one stuck to it would generally do well. But it seems that with the advancement of technology the ability to design and build better flowing headers have made short style headers less of a handicap these days so much so that unless you are running an all out dragster a short style header should be all most people can truly benefit from. Am I misinformed?

  • @oldgriz816

    @oldgriz816

    6 жыл бұрын

    D N , shortys provide lower rpm power, long tube work better mid to high rpm. Check out Billy Nees. He runs NHRA n/sa with a grand prix with a 301 and has a few good articles on header and collector lengths.

  • @dono624

    @dono624

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yea, for racing high rpm applications, I understand that, but a lot of guys put them on their street and on/off road vehicles. I am just saying for people who have vehicles that are dual purpose these days a good set of shorties should be fine right? Unless you are doing 7,000+ rpm regularly?

  • @DwayneRouthierJr

    @DwayneRouthierJr

    5 жыл бұрын

    D N long tubes are great for MID to high rpm. Mid rpm is roughly 3000 rpm give or take high rpm is about 6-6500 rpm. Shortys are good for off idle to low rpm 1500-2000rpm. Do you spend a lot of time at at lower rpms in over drive? Or do you have a 4 speed with 4.10s and cruise at around 3000 rip'ems? Either choice is an improvemet, it all depends on your application and what you want.

  • @johnlindsay7273
    @johnlindsay72732 жыл бұрын

    Given that the shorty headers provide less pulse vacuum internally, would it be a good idea to increase the diameter of the exhaust system from 2.5 to 3.0 inches to provide better top end?

  • @hemis_keepit_kloudy6305

    @hemis_keepit_kloudy6305

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm about to ask for shorty headers the high flow cats go with my dual set no 🐈 X pipe 2 super 10s I'm slowly working on my truck

  • @SOU6900
    @SOU69004 жыл бұрын

    Got any smog headers for a 454 powered 85 C30?

  • @brianalcos8872
    @brianalcos88726 жыл бұрын

    Hi carl i am just wondering if what style of muffler is recommended for long tube header for best power gain?

  • @xwarxxtweedyx9841
    @xwarxxtweedyx98416 жыл бұрын

    I have a 4.0 v6 ford ranger 2001 I want to change the headers I want to know which one are recommended for my 4.0

  • @bignick70812
    @bignick708122 жыл бұрын

    Hello! My name is Nicholas and I currently own a 2011 Ram 1500 Big horn. I have the hemi tick with either the lifter issue or broken exhaust bolts. I am currently looking into replacing the manifold with long tube headers. Do you have any advice as to how to prevent the bolts from breaking or any recommendations? Do you have any recommendations on any long tube headers?

  • @lawrencegarcia5977
    @lawrencegarcia59775 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2005 GMC 8.1 496 big block 2wd extended cab. I'm unsure what best fits my needs for daily driver ,towing enclosed trailer with 2000lbs around large city. Any recommendations?

  • @brianbustamante9862
    @brianbustamante98624 жыл бұрын

    What headers are best for a truck that tows? About 3 days a week. Thanks in advance

  • @jeffbelknap9140
    @jeffbelknap91406 жыл бұрын

    Are shorty headers about the same as the stock exhaust on a 1997 thru 2004 c-5 corvette ?

  • @His_Scout_Sixty
    @His_Scout_Sixty5 жыл бұрын

    How big should my mid pipe be if I add shorty headers?

  • @williammorgan5987
    @williammorgan59876 жыл бұрын

    Are the shortys gonna bring the thunder or will they sound the same as stock manifolds ? 2017 5.7 hemi, already thundering but could use more

  • @tl5108

    @tl5108

    4 жыл бұрын

    Should be a little louder. But its really more about the rest of your exhaust

  • @royaleharris
    @royaleharris3 жыл бұрын

    Which exhaust headers would I use for 1970 ford thunderbird with big block 429 7.0?

  • @stevenkinnison8044
    @stevenkinnison80443 жыл бұрын

    Would shorty headers be ok to run on my daily driver bone stock 02 Suburban? I live in town so there is hardly ever any full throttle driving.

  • @rege_oficial
    @rege_oficial4 жыл бұрын

    I have a challenger really low which one will fit better???

  • @FernandoSilva-vb9ef
    @FernandoSilva-vb9ef6 жыл бұрын

    I own a 2008 Chevy Silverado Max Vortec. It is currently tuned and has K/N cold air intake with a Magnaflow Muffler. Should i go for long tube or shorty headers? Oh also it is one of those dropped down trucks.

  • @MrDrKoala
    @MrDrKoala5 жыл бұрын

    i have a 75 ford bronco and i want to know what would be better, long or short?

  • @autonomous_collective
    @autonomous_collective4 жыл бұрын

    Velocity is key for performance in I6 engines. Which do you recommend for a Jeep 4.0 stroker for velocity?

  • @anonymousanonymous9991

    @anonymousanonymous9991

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would go with shorty headers both for ground clearance especially with portal axles etc and because low end power will be better for rock crawling and towing which. If you are looking for road racing performance I stead of off-road though it might be worth getting the long tubes.

  • @stew-03

    @stew-03

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shorties would do good for that. And less hassle with clearance issues

  • @joshuacataldo2612
    @joshuacataldo26126 жыл бұрын

    So as a stand alone upgrade, the shorty header won't do much over the factory exaust manifold? I have a 2014 Camaro SS

  • @yamahamer89

    @yamahamer89

    5 жыл бұрын

    On modern cars not so much. Only because modern Manifolds are pretty good. On Old muscle cars it's a huge difference like 20+hp/ torque. They will look good on your car. and they do tend to increase low end torque on most cars. I think the Summit guy just wants you to spend more money. Long tubes suck for speed bumps and driveways.

  • @litcharlesmcgee5254
    @litcharlesmcgee52542 жыл бұрын

    I got a 18 Chevy impala and i put a 87 vortec 350 in it what kind of headers do u think i should go with i like the long tubs

  • @danteaugusta3250
    @danteaugusta32503 жыл бұрын

    So if I'm looking for more torque for a truck application (no Baja or racing, mainly for getting over stuff (overlanding)) would shorty headers meet the mark? Eventually considering force induction, but haven't crossed that road yet

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shorty header would meet your goals just fine if you're looking for improved low-end power. Adding a supercharger will dramatically increase power across the entire rpm range. It will also require improved exhaust flow, and you may want to consider using a header with larger primaries.

  • @brianszymanski2971
    @brianszymanski29714 жыл бұрын

    LC engineering built my long tube headers for my Tacoma No mods to exhaust bolt on easy.

  • @arthurshortlidge7188
    @arthurshortlidge71886 жыл бұрын

    What about mid headers to full length whats the differemce of them

  • @spacetot1o160
    @spacetot1o1604 жыл бұрын

    Have an 06 charger Daytona Rt, cant decide which would be better LT or ST?

  • @71vegaman93
    @71vegaman936 жыл бұрын

    Running a Blown and Sprayed 383. My present headers are full length with 2" primaries and a 3-1/2 collector. It's all stuffed into a Vega. With all that's said about short headers can I find a pair that will work for my application. Trying to gain ground clearance and engine bay clearance. Thanks.

  • @bigsean2473

    @bigsean2473

    6 жыл бұрын

    they make mid length header now so you can get something that still give you good mid power and ground clearance

  • @fernando0654
    @fernando06546 жыл бұрын

    I have a Silverado w a 3” drop in the front and 6” in the back would this be a problem since I’m lower

  • @treenutz360

    @treenutz360

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha for sure. My 90 cought the collector on a speed bump.

  • @bazik8285
    @bazik82855 жыл бұрын

    I'm installing the long tube headers on a Nissan titan what can I do so it won't be that loud

  • @AlienRestoMod
    @AlienRestoMod2 жыл бұрын

    LS1 swap 5.3l L59, PCM flashed for LS swap into 69 camaro: problem- backfiring in exhaust tube. Yes I have longtube headers. Passenger side running 50 - 100 hotter then driverside. Any ideas?

  • @danepatterson8785
    @danepatterson87856 жыл бұрын

    I got a ford 300 inline 6 would the long tube give me more power and horsepower. Looking for more power in the mid to top range like there meant to

  • @collateral9159
    @collateral91594 жыл бұрын

    Any suggestions on shorties on a 4.3 vortec? Mostly daily it with the occasional my trucks faster argument with the buddies and you know we gotta check and see😂😂

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    4 жыл бұрын

    We are not sure of the application, but here is a link to the shorty headers for a 4.3.www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/headers/make/chevrolet/engine-size/4-3l-262/engine-family/gm-v6/header-style/shorty?N=header-style%3Ashorty&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending

  • @melniemann9911
    @melniemann99114 жыл бұрын

    I have a two litre golf motor I just want to know what branch Wil work

  • @rogeriosartori3336
    @rogeriosartori33362 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, I need to place an o2 sensor for my efi. If I use short headers will I neet to position the sensor fuher down the merge of the tubes compared to stock or long headers? Thanks

  • @ed-ou812
    @ed-ou8123 жыл бұрын

    I feel with a 3” exhaust the shorty headers would help create a little more back pressure. Thoughts?

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Eddie, On what application? Thanks for watching!

  • @svoncampe
    @svoncampe2 жыл бұрын

    Hello. I have a track-dedicated 350Z with mods that include Tomei Expreme headers, high flow cats, and an aftermarket dual exhaust. I am considering switching to long-tube headers (PPE or ISR) to go along with the upcoming cam, plenum, and intake upgrade. However, due primarily to cost, and since my Tomei shorties are already high quality headers, I’m wondering if I could keep the Tomeis and get closer to LT header performance by adding a y pipe and test pipe. Anyone able to comment? Thank you.

  • @sheayay9328
    @sheayay93282 жыл бұрын

    Ok so I want to long tubes for my 08 Silverado but will I have to remove a lot of stuff if anything? If so what? I have a flow master aftermarket exhaust that starts at the cat back will it fit to this?

  • @user-rj5wq3dw6x
    @user-rj5wq3dw6x6 ай бұрын

    Have a 67 base model Cougar with single exhaust. Don't know much about it. I dont race the the car but looking for little more power and better sound. It's a 289 4 b. What would you suggest?

  • @rollingthunder1751
    @rollingthunder17513 жыл бұрын

    Looking into shortys vs current long tube Hookers for my '66 Stang. The car has the shorter 1" drop coils and the problem is the collectors scrape the wider speed bumps and they're kinda close to the fuel and brake lines. Any suggestion on brands?

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 жыл бұрын

    A shorty header should free up some ground clearance. www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/headers/year/1966/make/ford/model/mustang/header-style/shorty?N=header-style%3Ashorty

  • @SimbaUchihaa

    @SimbaUchihaa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes those bumps fuckin me up too

  • @GCANDY100
    @GCANDY1004 жыл бұрын

    Hey! Great video’ i have a Gm crate engine 350. 1year old. Driven 2000 km since first startup. It has a 262 comp cam. Edelbrock eps intake #2701 and The edelbrock 500carb #1403. I am thinking about goin for The headers from Summit G9006? How much horsepower will it Get close to? You have any other suggestions AS far as increasing The overall performance?

  • @Mysterious_History1

    @Mysterious_History1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most headers regardless of what you have done only give you around 25 hp at the most

  • @GCANDY100

    @GCANDY100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mysterious_History1 awesome! thats plenty if you ask me!

  • @Mysterious_History1

    @Mysterious_History1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GCANDY100 yea, headers are probably the best bang for bucks your going to get...I know you already know cams, heads and superchargers are a great way to increase horsepower but they can get expensive.

  • @GeorgeLiquor
    @GeorgeLiquor3 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking shorties and offroad X pipe. Seems like it might be a happy medium

  • @melted_pistons
    @melted_pistons5 жыл бұрын

    Summary. Long tubes arent always bolt on but make more mid range to high end power. Shorties are better for fitment and some low end torque

  • @kenworthcustomlogisticstru8096
    @kenworthcustomlogisticstru8096 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2005 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 crew cab LS v8 5.3 LM7 325 cubic inch engine and I want to get headers for it, but I don't know if I want long or shortly tube headers as well as my biggest problem is that I don't know exactly what size headers I need so I don't order the wrong size headers for them to not fit my truck.

  • @marioromero5068
    @marioromero50685 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know if you have a shorty set of headers and total exhaust system for a 1992 Ford 150 2 wheel drive 5.0 engine.

  • @brandonlaw2010

    @brandonlaw2010

    4 жыл бұрын

    You find something?

  • @beverett4274
    @beverett42746 жыл бұрын

    What if you are planning on straight piping your exhaust. Which headers would be better?

  • @erickr.8390

    @erickr.8390

    6 жыл бұрын

    following

  • @dontlookatmyvideos1846

    @dontlookatmyvideos1846

    6 жыл бұрын

    Long tube

  • @dontlookatmyvideos1846

    @dontlookatmyvideos1846

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @tmk5522

    @tmk5522

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zoomies

  • @howiethompson8844
    @howiethompson88445 жыл бұрын

    What is the part # to fit a 64 galaxy 500 with 390

  • @gabrielmedina2881
    @gabrielmedina28816 жыл бұрын

    I have a 07 Chevy tahoe LTZ and I'm looking for the best performance headers and cat back exhaust system for more horsepower I been looking at the borla touring but I think the sound is to low ? Any advice

  • @tl5108

    @tl5108

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just go talk to your local exhaust shop. Normally straighter and shorter will give you more horsepower. As far as headers are concerned 4-2-1 long tubes are the best if your vehicle can fit them

  • @mikeward2922
    @mikeward29223 жыл бұрын

    I acquired a 68 mustang with a 289 and Hedman long tube headers. The car also came with new exhaust pipes, 2 1/4 inch, an H-pipe and a couple flowmaster mufflers. The issue is the H-pipe is not even close. I suspect the exhaust, which is labeld 'classic mustang' was meant for standard exhaust manifolds. What's the recommendation on X-pipe or H-pipe or straight pipes with long tube headers like these Hedmans? I am having trouble zero'ing in on something that fits. I'd like to bolt on, of course, but I'm just looking for advice on how to proceed. Of course, the exhaust is not on the car, and as I crawled under to make things fit, it seemed more like a game of Tetris than an exhaust system meant for this car.

  • @SummitRacing

    @SummitRacing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trying to install an exhaust system on your back is certainly no fun. But, add in the complexity of making various parts fit and align properly while maintaining good ground clearance, can actually be worse than a challenging game of Tetris! Our advice to start would be to find a local exhaust or hot rod shop with a lift, that specializes in exhaust work and can make adjustments on the fly. Secondly, X pipes will always make more horsepower, especially on a short stroke, higher revving motor such as your 289. H pipes do help and are an upgrade over just two straight pipes but, scavenging is the key and an X pipe coupled with a good set of equal length headers is hard to beat. If money isn't an issue and there isn't a local shop in town to help, some manufacturers have complete systems with all the parts (including headers) that are designed to work together for the easiest installation by the hobbyist. Pypes would be one of those companies.

  • @sicchuckie
    @sicchuckie Жыл бұрын

    1st Gen Tundra, no lift, mostly used for truck bed camping, and to replace factory broken manifold or short factory header? Should I go long or short? 4.7 2000 model

  • @AlecCastaway
    @AlecCastaway2 ай бұрын

    The A body mopars imported to my country are all RHD so to try avoiding the steering box I have long headers on the passenger side and short headers on the drivers side, will this damage my motor ? It's a stock 318La small block . ?

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