For that much I'll employ my butler to transport my old socks and boxers! 😂😂

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Surely you have one anyway if you ordered the GSA?

@Alexander-of7ny

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

I took a wild camping trip to Scandinavia this summer for three months. Bike, 80mpg, 2019 Honda CB500x. My pannier setup, Givi detachable rails, cost £100, and Givi soft panniers with waterproof liners, (didn’t leak once) cost £115. I made it up to Nordkapp, where I was surrounded by GS’s and Africa Twins, all with similarly impressive luggage setups as in this video. I smoked a tab, had a chuckle and headed on down to Lapland. I’m not having a go at GS or AT riders, (I had both in my youth) but there are alternatives 🇬🇧🙂✌🏻

Bruce your honesty is so refreshing mate. Glad you are on the same page as me, a grand is a lot of money for those bags.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Thank you Andy 👍

great video Bruce, what a simple system to attach the bags that is. I did smile at the unboxing bit.. no knife symbols everywhere on the box.... as you went at it with a stanley 😂

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Blaze your own path 😉😎🤦‍♂️👍🤣

Thank you for this. I have been looking for luggage which would be compatible for future bikes.

Love it, think soft luggage looks so much better on ADV than hard luggage, those babies look thexy. That built in Mount is much better. 😍

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Aye I agree, so easy to pop on and off and I love the look of this kit. Insanely expensive though so I know this will put a lot of folk off 🤷‍♂️👍

Great looking bags. I reckon they’d fit the xr as well. Same looking mounts. 👍

My bags tilt in as yours do. I hate that look, but they do serve work well. I put a piece of thick rubber on the inside of the foot rest mount to even them out and to remove some of the awful bounce.

Hi Bruce, Great video. I have had the rack mounted for a couple of years and they are fantastic. Tbe biggest plus for me is that they are 100% waterproof, something that my metal ones never were. I always found a pool of water at the bottom of the metal ones after a few hours of heavy rain. I just wish they would hurry up with their top box.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Watch this space bud😉👍

@motolover5697

7 ай бұрын

Inner bags are a simple solution with metal ones, even when they are damaged they don't leak. I've got them since I bought metal cases and they were the best purchase for my Adv.

@tonybaker8414

7 ай бұрын

@@motolover5697 mine leaked from the start. I drilled holes in the bottom to let the water out but that made it worse.

@motolover5697

7 ай бұрын

This is what the inner bags are for. And one can take them to the room or in the tent, no need for heavy, dirty and muddy cases to be taken off the bike. @@tonybaker8414

Built and tested around the world, shows being pulled behind a truck on a dirt road but advised not to use off road, am sorry if I’m not getting something but really don’t see the advantage over any other system rackless or with racking 🤷‍♂️ Love your vids Bruce have been very inspiring over the years 👍

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

The bit where the bike is dragged behind the truck is to show how tough the bags themselves are. There was a lot of criticism when they originally came out from the hard luggage brigade who said they weren’t as secure as hard panniers. So Lone Rider chucked them off the back of a moving truck, attacked them with knives, screwdrivers etc etc to prove they were actually tougher than hard luggage. When secured via a traditional rack system, they are perfectly fine to use offroad, as proven by the actual owners, founders, and staff members at Lone Rider themselves, as well as thousands of customers around the world. The Rackless motobags shown in this vid, are meant for the road use rider - basically 90%+ of riders out there 👍

I have the lonerider bags that fit the racking I hope they are going to offer the fittings alone without the bags.

I've got a 750 gs it has all the same attachments as the 1250 but I'll stick with my hard cases way cheaper 😊

The St. Andrews saltire was a nice touch

Interesting review Bruce, I see you fitted the rackless bags to your 'old' 1250 GS, question now is will they fit your new 1300 GS? If not then at & £1099.00 they will be expensive garage ornaments !!

Fantastic luggage, never had any water in mine .

@TheAmerican1963

3 ай бұрын

True !!!! Mine have never leaked and if the rubber around the edges gets a little rough, gently renew it with "Flex-Seal". These bags are tough as hell, though. I love them !!!! 🙂

Wow Bruce, these make the SW Motec offering look superb value 👍🏼

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Which ones?

@MacCallumDavid

7 ай бұрын

I think they are called sys bags. They are not in anyway a direct comparison like Mosko bags, but do the job well from what I understand. The man cave chap did a review which looked ok 👍🏼

I was all like..oooh, hmm, I’m looking for panniers for my old 05 GS. Then you said how much they cost…

I have had the "normal" Lone Rider bags for 2 years now. Their support sucks and I will never buy from them again ..... but, the bags I have are great !!!! The rack less I have seen come off on even minor spills so my guess was right about going to them. No complaints about the product directly, just some issues about install and goofy pad locks that when making them aware of the 5 hours it took me to take apart and re-adjust the mounts on bags they said "bolt right on", some woman that worked there pretty much told me to go pound sand. That cost them their future in my eyes . Good video !!!! Thank you !!! 🙂

@akungwelly

8 күн бұрын

Hi! Which one would you suggest Rackless or the normal lone rider panniers?

@TheAmerican1963

8 күн бұрын

@@akungwelly normal ......................

@akungwelly

8 күн бұрын

@@TheAmerican1963 thank you for helping

@TheAmerican1963

8 күн бұрын

@@akungwelly No problem. Just be sure to take your time, use lock-tite and keep track of the keys for the mount. I carry one set and hide one set. Keep the rubber side down, Amigo !!!!!! 🙂

Bruce, mate with your channel I think it’s worthwhile.. 😂 Definitely hide the cost from the Mrs..

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

There’s no way I could, or would, pay over a grand for some bike luggage. But if that’s what it costs for these, then that’s what it is, and a lot of people do and will pay it 🤷‍♂️👍

Interesting good one 👍Manxman 🇮🇲

Nice video here you had my full watch

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Cheers dude, much appreciated 👍

interesting video but a very steep price for that kit. when you mentioned the padlock my first thought is i wonder what the lock picking lawyer would make of it in terms of its quality? i did see Doughnut sent him some locking wheel trims in a past video and it was a fun collaboration. would you be interested in getting in touch with LPL and sending one of the padlocks off so we know how secure the padlocks are for the premium product?

I use the vario panniers, are these bigger ie get more in as thinking about getting these

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

I believe so, but I’ve never used the Vario side panniers, only the top box. The Lone Rider bags are 38litre and 31 Litre - and that’s unobstructed storage👍

My understanding is that the big outer bag isn’t *fully* waterproof; it has weep/breather holes in the bottom to let air out when you roll the top down and any water that may have got into the bag.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Yes that’s true, it doesn’t let any water in through the material, but they have included the drain holes to allow any water to get out. You out your clothes in the lining bags anyway, which are 100% waterproof. So if you’re taking the bags to the bike from your hotel/tent and it’s raining, when you open the motobags and out the lining bags in - any water is free to drain out and your kit isn’t sat in puddles of water all day 👍

Mosko Moto Luggage is significantly more money, arguably better quality but more expensive! But compared to hard luggage I think the Lone Rider system stands up and is worth the money. If it doesn’t leak any water! Unfortunately All my recent luggage has leaked! Tourateck and BMW a like all let water in! My stuff needs to be secured, and dry. Nice work big guy. Happy Christmas.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Cheers Murt, I’d not actually seen the Mosko Moto Rackless stuff, will check it out. Aye the LoneRider stuff is 100% dry, never had any leak on me, plus the lining bags are also fully waterproof so you’ve got double protection 👍 Merry Crimbo to you, Sally, and your families 👍

@TheAmerican1963

3 ай бұрын

In 2 years mine have never leaked.

thanks Bruce, would like some of these but goodness it is a lot of money! Do they fit to your new R1300?

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Michael, aye there’s no getting away from it, they are very expensive for sure. No they don’t fit the 1300 currently, but there may be a solution in the works 👍

I got as far as you announcing £1099 then hit the stop button! World gone crazy.

@teapotone

5 ай бұрын

I agree it’s a crazy price, but it’s on par with what you’d pay for similar quality hard panniers and racking

Hi everyone, I have a 2024 800GS with Visio fasteners. BMW tells me that these fasteners are identical on the GS range (old and new with Visio option of course). As they are used to attach the rackless I think that the Motobags rackless should also be compatible on the 800 GS (2024), but when I ask Lonerider I don't get any answer from their customer service? In short, I'm wondering if I'm ordering these bags "despite" the lack of response from Lonerider? thx

Watching this because its obviously entirely relevant to me having a CB125f... 😂

Been looking at these since they first came out and IMHO, the best solution on the market right now for GS/A owners. BUT, at over £1000 it's a huge investment to try and justify.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Yep it’s a LOT of money for sure. Compared to their equivalent rivals in the market, I’d say they were the leaders - look amazing, huge capacity, incredibly easy to mount/remove, leave the bike looking original when not mounted, safer than hard luggage, fully waterproof, more versatile in that it’s easy to mount other bags and kit to them via the Molle system… list goes on. However if you’re going to do much offroad stuff, then I’d go for the traditional rack motobags and not these Rackless ones personally

@FlamingT

7 ай бұрын

@@teapotone ... off road! on a GSA! are you mad man? 🤣😂🤣

@FlamingT

Ай бұрын

Took a punt and bought some...went moto camping last weekend with them (and the LR tent) and can say that they do exactly what they say on the tin... expensive yes, worth the money.... absolutely. Will be touring in Europe later in the year and these will be perfect.

Great video, however I do not really see the point of swapping them if they are not suitable for off roading and do not safe much of a weight and width of the bike while traveling?

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Aye true, if you already own panniers and currently do a lot of off-roading with them, then the Rackless motobags are not for you 👍

I really like the look of the Lone Rider stuff, but in the end went with some official BMW Aluminium panniers, but were still £300 cheaper!

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

I don’t think the bmw ones are waterproof, you also need a rack on the bike if you don’t already have one (£), hard luggage isn’t as safe as semi-rigid in the event of an accident/drop, they’re easier to break into so not as secure, heavier for carrying around… 🤷‍♂️ But yes, definitely cheaper 👍

@barrydaly7174

7 ай бұрын

The BMW Vario ones are waterproof. Vario panniers Are made to fit without a rack. Horses for courses but...... A pair of bike matching ones for £600 or nearly twice as much for a "Designer" compromised adaption.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Nope, they are NOT waterproof, I’ve seen them leak on a few bikes this year alone, you absolutely need lining bags for the 1200/1250 Vario panniers if you’re going to be riding in sustained wet weather. Compromised - how so?

@barrydaly7174

7 ай бұрын

The compromise is that when you take them off they have a whole load of hardware attached and they have separate keys. You do seem to love these, that's all cool and if bought them or were donated them I would love them too It is just as we are all motorcyclists we have to give our honest opinion and my opinion is that the BMW ones are expensive enough so an alternative should be at least a little less expensive. But twice the price? doesn't make sense to me That's all TO.@@teapotone

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

It’s a key which I attach to my bike keys 🤷‍♂️ If your opinion on something is tainted by the fact it was given to you to review, then this is not the line of work you should be in (although I appreciate many here on KZread appear to act differently). I for one am always open and honest about anything I feature on the channel, whether I’ve bought it myself, been given, or provided by a sponsor - it makes zero difference to me, I’ll say exactly what I think. It’s cost me sponsors in the past and I’m sure it will again into the future - but integrity is non-negotiable in my book, and I’ll defend that from anyone. Yes these are expensive, I even say this a few times in the vid, but you get what you pay for. If it’s not for you though, then fine, there are plenty of alternatives available as you point out 👍

Hello sir. Since you’ve had these rackless bags on your 1250gs did you ever drop it while riding or at a stop and if so, did the bags stay attached to your bike? I bought a 2023' R1250GS Trophy in July of this year and I've been slowly buying stuff for the bike. I am seriously considering the Rackless Moto Bags from Lone Rider. I love the option of quickly removing and installing them. I am also a bit concerned about off roading whilst they're on the bike. If you didn't have any problems then I'll be pulling the trigger to buy them. Thanks a bunch!

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Hello bud, the Rackless ones are NOT for off-roading, they also say this on their website. Definitely use the standard rack and quick release motobags if you’re going to do any off-roading at all👍

@thetrailbuzzard

7 ай бұрын

Awe...bummer. I was hoping you would say go for it. I don't care for the rack system being on the bike. Kinda like it cleaned up without. I haven't found a need for luggage yet. Maybe I'll leave it go till it's absolutely necessary. Thanks again for all the wonderful info you give us all! @@teapotone

Damn dude!! The cost is crazy!!!

How much!!! lol. I’ll stick to my framed metal ones with waterproof inserts

You’re late with this one Bruce 😂 you have changed bikes since. Will the same bags fit the new bike 1300 GS ? How ?

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Aye I’m working through a massive backlog of content at the mo😬🤦‍♂️🤣 LoneRider are currently working on all their kit for the new 1300 and I’ve got some new stuff coming in the new year. I think they’re trying to work on a solution for the Rackless bags where existing customers will be able to fit them to a 1300 - but that’s no definite at this time 👍

@timparry5028

7 ай бұрын

If you can afford the new GS1300 a new set of bags at £1100 is a snip surely😂😂😂😂

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

New GS is not much more than an equivalent 1250 bud

For Bmw 1300gs????

@teapotone

19 күн бұрын

They don’t do the reckless ones YET for the 1300, but they do a rack now for it - which I’ve currently got 👍

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If I heard right, what's the point of buying these rackless bags if the manufacturer of the bags doesn't even recommend them for off road...kinda defeats the purpose of an adventure bike. But they seem a quality product though.

I suppose it’s worth the money if you’re going to do a lot of tours.

How much is it gold plated 😮

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

A lot more I’d imagine

@andrewmason2879

7 ай бұрын

@@teapotone everything seems expensive nowadays mate when it comes to bikes 🏍️ good idea and looked good though 👍

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Aye prices are certainly going up. Another reason for these being at the higher end price wise is it’s a fairly small company who are creating custom designed kit - so every new bit of kit has to have all the R&D, then all the new tooling, spare parts, marketing etc etc etc. Whatever the reasons, it’s expensive kit but I do think they’re at the top end in terms of quality and style 👍

But where would I put all my stickers?! 😂

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

You’d need to get Velcro ones… or ones with molle straps 😉👍

Well they are premium but I would never ever pay 1000,- pounds for two bags. Because basically that’s what it is.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Yep it’s a lot of money

If your Touring in Europe why pay pay £1000 quid to keep a weeks worth of old clothes safe🤣🤣🤣

The BMW Vario panniers are available new on the evil place from a BMW dealer for £650 including the locks. They extend to approx 30 and 39L and fit both the 1200/1250 GS/GSA without using any racking at all. They are quite heavy, but are waterproof and lockable so you can use inner bags and leave the panniers on the bike. As the 1250GS has been replaced by the 1300GS and its already been confirmed the Vario panniers won't fit the 1300 these probably won't either unless they produce a different mounting plate. The vario also slim down to 20 and 29L to help with filtering and if you have the top box and ride solo do you really need anymore. The cost of these panniers are around the cost of both the Vario panniers and the top box combined. I know which I'd buy.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

These are based on the Vario luggage, that’s why they utilise the existing mounting points on the GS bodywork. They’re much better than the Vario ones though in all senses - looks, build quality, Vario ones aren’t waterproof (I’ve seen them leak a few times with my own eyes), they’re much heavier to lug on and off the bike. LoneRider are currently working on their 1300 kit range, including possibly a way to convert existing 1200/1250 Rackless motobags to the 1300 - but watch this space if that happens 🤷‍♂️ I bought the new Vario top box for the 1300 at £550! It’s a HUGE step up from the original plastic, cheap looking Vario kit, and I’ll do a vid on it at some point to come 👍

@Bazza47

7 ай бұрын

@@teapotone Thanks Bruce, I've never had my Varios leak in the 7 years I've had them maybe they leak because people overfill them, who knows 🤣 If they can make different adapter plates I think they'd be onto something which might then justify the high cost-I thought BMW were bad enough 😉 I guess overall it's good to have a choice that can cater for different people's needs. I know you don't rate them but I'm off to 1250RS land as they're a liad cheaper than the GS is now and if I need luggage for that I'll go down the soft luggage route too, probably a 36L as I don't carry a pillion so no need to carry a hairdryer, handbags or high heels

Don't fit the new 1300? Give you £200 including postage 😂

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

That’s very kind - but no ta. They’re working on a solution for the 1300 😉

Ridiculous price, but its the same with a lot of bike gear. I think that puts a lot of new bikers off, thinking they have to blow £1000's on gear, and you really don't.

I’m guessing the one big advantage of the hard case over these relates to how each would stand up to a Stanley knife….a lot of thieving gits in some European cities…

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

These motobags have been tested with blades, chisels, screwdrivers etc - I’ve included some footage in this vid, did you not see it?

@butlersg1

7 ай бұрын

I did but thought the footage only showed a screwdriver. If there was a warning about knives on the box it made me think about opportunistic thieves. If these are immune to a stanly they’d be a serious consideration.

mmm just like the 2010 Honda VFR 1200f panier fixing system,

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Oh aye they’re identical… 🤦‍♂️

£1,000 for bags you can’t even go off road with. Designed for car park GS riders, like 99% of GS are!

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

🤣🤦‍♂️

@philippeernotte6609

6 ай бұрын

Fake. Go watch the Lone Rider videos, there are some where, in particular, they spend their time dropping the motorcycle on the rackless cases to demonstrate the solidity of the system and that there is no damage to the cases. As for the price, the price of an aluminum suitcase kit from Touratech, for example, is more expensive and will cause more damage in the event of a fall!

@teapotone

6 ай бұрын

@philippeernotte6609 aye that’s true, and I use footage from that in this actual vid. HOWEVER… these reckless bags are NOT designed to go offroad. The BAGs will easily go off road and put up with everything you can throw at them, but the reckless connection system to the bike won’t. For off road riding you will need the traditional rack system and connect your bags via that👍

Ridiculous price, there is much better options out there for a more reasonable price.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Better - no. Cheaper - yes.

@malcolm3370

7 ай бұрын

@@teapotone I will settle for equally as good/practical and cheaper 👍

Looks like a lot of faff to me

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤣

Ugly and not rackless, as they carry a rack with them and plug into bike‘s integrated rack ports. Useless, as you won‘t carry that hybrid monster to your hotel. Leaving the softbag on the bike means, you have to pull all out and carry it around to the end of the lengthy floor of that scottish hotel on the 3rd floor of the back building you have to walk across countries for. Well done. Hahaha, no way. „To be fair“ it‘s utterly expensive anyways, regardless of it‘s packing.

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

What a ridiculous post? So how do you get the content of your panniers/bags to your hotel room normally then if you don’t carry them from your bike? It’s takes a matter of minutes to remove the lining bag from the motobags and then you just carry that. The motobags stay on the bike whilst you are on your trip, locked and secure to the frame. When you get home, they take seconds to remove and you can store them in your garage/shed/house. Ugly - no. Useless - no. Expensive - yes, very. Quality - yes, very.

You flogging them Bruce, I will buy them Asda price?

@teapotone

7 ай бұрын

Ha Ha - nah

Don't fit the new 1300? Give you £200 including postage 😂