London Hardmen VIOLENT Clash | John Bindon v Johnny Mack
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Johnny Mac, Peckham gangster, prize fighter, and South London hard man.
John Bindon actor, tough guy, and lethal West London Enforcer.
These two dangerous men once crossed paths and it exploded into a violent clash with Johnny Mac refusing to be intimidated by the notorious Bindon who had done battle with another infamous South London Gangster Johnny Darke leaving him for dead.
In this episode, I will give an insight into both hardmen and read the exact account from Mack on the violent clash before giving my thoughts at the end!
John Bindon needs no introduction. The West London hardman loved mixing it with high society as well as fighting it out in pubs to be respected as one of the hardest men in London.
He had a ferocious deadly battle with the dangerous Johnny Darke which ended up with him being terribly injured and Darke dead. I have done a video on that DEADLY encounter linked at the end.
Make no mistake Bindon may have been a celebrity. But he was one dangerous man.
Johnny Mack born in the 50s, from the tough Pelican estate later to become the North Peckham estate, was a keen amateur boxer fighting out of the Fischer, Bermondsey and later the Queen Ann Vauxhall.
AT 14 he had left school and had been taken under the wing of South London face Tony Banbridge who would later go on to marry Charlie Richardson’s daughter. Tony was Macks's neighbour and had fingers in many pies. They would later go on to fall out with the older Banbridge punching Mack still a teen damaging his eye. Mack got revenge by attacking Banbridge.
As a teenager, Mack took part in a jewellery robbery netting thousands of pounds worth of Diamonds. After getting caught he kept his mouth shut and didn’t snitch on the older gangsters earning him respect.
He quickly moved up the ranks working for the French family out of South London gaining a reputation as a man who could fight and was a staunch associate. Later in life he would go on to be a ferocious fighter in the prizefighting arena.
The violent clash between Johnny Mack and John Bindon is best told by the late Johnny Mack himself from his book Johnny Mack Dunpeckham
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Johnny Mack Book : www.amazon.co.uk/Dunpeckham-Johnny-Mack/dp/190551350X
Good video that mate. I like how you don’t just listen to assumptions or gossip on a characters life experience, your own research is for sure a great way of determining what is. Big well done bro👊❤️✌️
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thankyou bro
Didn't Bob Hoskins describe John Bindon at his Old Bailey trial as a"cuddly bear" of a man, incapable of deliberately killing someone?
Great video today and thanks for what you do 😊
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thank you mate
I new Johnny Mack I spent every winter with him in Goa for years a top man gentleman I have many fond memories we talked for months each year yes there was a period of hard drugs and alcohol but during his last years he was free of both RIP Johnny
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Great comment mate rip JM
@dannycampbell7294
6 ай бұрын
sorry got to correct you! i knew not i new 😅
@user-sf8sy6xx9e
6 ай бұрын
oh people who spell a word wrong need to be corrected ffs get a life @@dannycampbell7294
@smith2781
2 ай бұрын
I know his youngest son. I went to the that Johnny had just outside Luton a couple of times. I only met big John once though
@user-sf8sy6xx9e
2 ай бұрын
@@smith2781 he was a nice fella liked a beer or two then he went sober for years found religion in latter life sadly he got seriously ill , I mis him we had a laugh about what side the water he was from , I actually new both him from Goa and biil from E16
Great vid, I love hearing stories about south & west london gangsters. So many east london stories which are great too, what about north london? The Nashes, Adams, Riley’s I bet there’s some good stuff there. Much respect brother!
@johnreidy2804
6 ай бұрын
I have my 7th dan in Goju Karate and also wrestled in College. I stand 6'1" and weigh 220 pounds. I would not want to face this man!!
Excellent mate 🥊👊
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt top man
I used to bunk of at the ranley yacht club Putney bridge Fulham side,After it shut down,very eerie tiny mirrored alcoves upstairs proper small club ,we used it to have a puff and lose a few hours between lower and upper school, good days 🇬🇧
@michaelharrison3602
6 ай бұрын
It was called the Ranelagh yacht club not the Ranley
Thanks buddy really enjoyed listening gangster folklore. Many legend's..really were hard men back in the day , wild day's. I wondered if today's hard men will be remembered in year's to come ..only time will tell .
@heiltd1286
2 ай бұрын
No apostrophe 's' in plurals in English. It's 'DAYS' not 'DAY'S'.
Bad day for Ray - escapes from a set to he doesn't want any part of, lays a cable in his Y fronts, gets slapped around, and then gets taxed. Hopefully things didn't get any worse for him...
GREAT video as always mate love bindon have just ordered his book from amazon. who are the frenches av not heard much about that family
@fabiandegussion5134
6 ай бұрын
John bindon wrote a book ?!
Bindon got in a bit of trouble when he was working for Led Zeppelin in the US. There's a few different versions of what happened, some say it was Bindon, Peter Grant and John Bonham bashing the concert promoter's son over some disagreement. Other versions just say Bindon chinned an American stagehand who had insulted him. In any case, he got fired from Zeppelin's crew and had to leg it back to the UK to avoid being arrested.
@peterh1353
7 күн бұрын
The version I believe is that Plant's son took a star from a door as a souvenir and a member of the road crew gave him a clip around the ear (not knowing who he was) and Bindon floored him. Created a mini-war on the tour. Bindon was sent home and Grant never employed him again.
enjoyed that mate 💯💥👊👊
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thankyou mate
Excellent work not heard of these fellas before.
I heard about john bindon. I don't know much about him wasn't he in. Get carter Anyway good video stay safe 👍
He could hang pint glasses on his todger. I can hang my front door key on mine.
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 made me laugh that
@mcvicarross7
6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 gd yin m8 👍
@Williewanka3467
6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@saraprva4172
6 ай бұрын
I heard he had the name of that famous Welsh railway station tattooed on it Rhyl
@s4squatch1
6 ай бұрын
@@saraprva4172 I can too......Rhyl
Didn’t Oliver Reed have a couple of run ins with John Bindon..😮
Really enjoyed this
Great video ty John bindon had a short role in quadrophonia
Great video 👍
Interesting story. You should speak to Dave Smith, from Norbury. He was around a lot of those guys & knew them well. Bren Power was my landlord when I lived in Chelsea during the 90’s. The flat was right opposite, Jackie Leaches, Gaslight Club, on the Kings Rd. There were always faces & wrong ‘un’s in that gaff.
Top vid as always mate 👍
If you can still walk away with your head held high after mixing it up with Bindon then youve got to be tough. I'd agree this wasn't a young strong version of bindon. Another good one bud 👍
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thankyou my friend
Subbed time ago on my other channel so subbed on this channel thank you seriously iv read 📚 hundreds under lock n key Respect 🙏 mate
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thankyou mate respect
Great video thanks
Any videos in the works on london hardman dr rackpull
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
Don't let ray hill know your talking about john bindon 😂
Quality content
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thankyou mate
I know a bit about mack im from Peckham SE15, went to Peckham manor school in the 70s
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Good to hear some more stories mate
Great story mate! It wasn't until Matt Legg did a brief video on Bindon, l had any clue he was a villain on and off of the screen! I remembered his face from Get Carter, Z Cars (l think?) etc. How's Ray for backup with John!?! Left his bootprint on his mates head, while shooting through! My uncle and grandad fought in Africa, Crete and New Guinea... Shittin yself under fire, or in fear is a real thing.... as we saw here!! The book sounds like a good read.. Cheers.
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thanks mate great post
Nice one Ben
John Bindon was one of the most interesting gangsters around because he was associated with showbiz and royalty. His trial stopped the TV show "Hazel" from being screen because it would prejudice the case. Never met the man and only going on people I trust but he wasn't an honourable bloke at all and hit people who just annoyed him. Like students. He was a good collector for the Richardson's - and they didn't employ idiots. Said he felt safe at the end of his life because he lost so much weight that nobody recognised him. Everyone walked away though.
@alewis4126
8 күн бұрын
There were so many interesting things about John Bindon. One was that he was close friends with David Bowie's wife Angie. They used to go jogging together. She writes about him in her autobiography. Must have been interesting them all singing Christmas carols together at the Bowie household.
Excellent vid. In the early 80s myself and a few friends who were early twenties then would go to the Water Rat pub on kings Road Chelsea on Saturdays. Bindon would always be there he took a shine to us young lads and we would hang out He was a fun nice guy. What made my ears prick up here tho in this vid was your mention of Clemie, I met her with him one time she eas very young late teens, anyhow she came over and snogged me at the bar, I nearly died thinking omg Bindon will kill me! He just laughed and I lived 😂
Quite gripping, I might buy the book.
Johnny Darke was an animal and a bully I didn't know anyone in South London who was sorry when he died
We went to William penn school together aged 14 , he mentioned me in the forward of his book landed on the moon he even visited me when l was on holiday in Perth hmp..😅 sadly missed
Nice 👍 One Peace be With You
Binden got a visit from 'The Firm'...'The Establishment' regarding his relationship with that spoilt party animal Princess Margaret. That was the beginning of the end for Binden. They all used to Hang out in a place called The Gasworks in Fulham...No fanks.
I've stopped listening to all these one sided versions, the one telling the tale is always great and the other is a tart. I'm from the east end of Glasgow and i know a lot of the players everyone does but i also know things that they don't tell others, I also used to work with an ex CID guy and he did his policing in the 80's 90's in the east end and the story's he can tell about the lies of these gangsters and hardmen, certain bits of books which they write he said he just laughs because they tell you one load of garbage when he knows the real story. I would just take everything with a pinch of salt. plus in this case we can't get John Bindons take on it can we.
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
All books will have a creative licence as will people on podcasts telling their stories , as will old bill as will people in pubs. On my documentaries they are all thoroughly researched from court records and press archives and from people in the know . But book readings are take it or leave it . you don't know he's lying but I don't know if he telling truth it was a fight in a flat allegedly. I've spoke to people who are respected and knew him who say he was a face so that will do me. CID are the most corrupt lying 🤥 firm going as I know to my cost.
@bungledandbotched1771
6 ай бұрын
He might have been speaking of his colleagues,
@TherealsweetTee72
6 ай бұрын
Sorry for the comment I sent you pal, it was out of order and on someone's channel who is a quality serious,humble man even worse of me! but mostly because you got as much rite to say whatever you believe with out a dickhead like me pulling you up and giving you a "producer" my bad! And it's wrong to say things like that online when it should be done in a way where its man to man not keyboard to keyboard! That's why I don't hide away behind an empty profile as I believe in showing your face if got something to say! So at the end of the day I'm sorry I should never give a negative comment to a negative comment and climb down to that level, really Hope you can atleast respect my apology even if not accept! It wasn't that bad anyway but it was a divvy move and out of order/more than anything to Mr E on his channel. Take care. + sorry geezer sorry E 2.0
It was my famileys club the Yaht club where it happend it started when johns mate roy dennis chinned darke then darke pulled a knife on roy thats when john got involved they both got badley hurt pat sullivan and mickey smithers run the club at the time as the owners was in prison all the best with youre channel 👍
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Thankyou mate great reply 👍
@Georgieboy-482
6 ай бұрын
@@enquirer2.0 don't listen to all the bullshiters who say things about john he was a good man 👍
@Georgieboy-482
6 ай бұрын
@@enquirer2.0 roy adkins got shot in the american bar in the leardsplain by is own friends they set him up then took over his buisness roy loved his hourse racing was always there with the milkman b Wright ozzer ariffe eamon ginger Dell d adams father in law harry hicks and a man nickname called globo roy was a good man also check out my mate norman jones he was married to c krays daughter Nancy her real dad was geoge ince who got nicked for the barn murders norman and his boys doing 33 years rec all the best 👍
Subbed.
I heard bindon begged for his life and darke let him up and bindon steamed into him with a blade.
@davidbillyard6629
6 ай бұрын
All’s fair in love and war…
@santorini8423
6 ай бұрын
From who?
@michaelhorne4742
6 ай бұрын
@@santorini8423 there's another channel that covers crime that covered it before. I'd imagine if 50 people were present there would be 50 different versions of the story.
@bungledandbotched1771
6 ай бұрын
That is true but it was a move so he could bend down and get the chiv from his boot .
RIP Charlie Richardson❤ one of the hardest man I know just like his brother eddy love them both 🙏🏽
Can't believe Ray slipped.
Poor Ray, three quarters of the watchers of this video would've been him in this story.
He was a friend of certain female royalty,..
According to what ive read joe pyle had respect for bindon so he mustve had something about him Ray hill says ollie reed beat bindon in a straightner Now by all accounts ollie in his youth could have a fight- but i would think he had more sense than to tangle with really dangerous blokes??
Good story that. Not many people got the better of JB.
who are the french family never heard of them ??
Ray hill talks about bindon a lot...i reckon bindon was a Pratt... regardless of the fact he was a dangerous man
@swimdeep189
6 ай бұрын
He was a Prat but dangerous. Well pick one or the other.
These so called gangsters wouldn't of stood a chance against big Agnes from Scotland
them days are gone
I’ve never Hurd of Johnny Mack.?. And I’m sure I would have.?.
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Checked with couple proper guys from that era from East said he legit
@darrenfry4695
6 ай бұрын
Lol hello rich my old mucka, you was there for me a few times when I had a war with the bermondsey mob lol that was vicious and a few other times cheers rich, hope your all good .
French family that is supposedly who Jimmy Holmes started out with
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Yes mate same
@seanmwh
6 ай бұрын
I suppose it’s no revelation as he was from Bermondsey. I might have been an article about him Tony Thompson.
@DannyLN.1
6 ай бұрын
Jimmy Myah is his real name.
@seanmwh
6 ай бұрын
@@DannyLN.1 He has lead an interesting life it seems
@DannyLN.1
6 ай бұрын
@@seanmwh -Yeah, in drag most of the time 🤣. The blokes a proper deviant, a wrong un in every way..
What era was this?
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
This would of been mid 80s mate
Sorry my friend.have U ever heard of Sean lannon.
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
No mate who is he?
@user-jh6cg2rx6n
6 ай бұрын
@@enquirer2.0 a bare knuckle gent. Beat the Australian champ. The Irish champ..and look into a mate of his called Colin Ingram... don't know what is out there ... MEN..U HAVE IT WITH JUST 2 NAMES..AN ISLAND.OFF THE MOTERWAY.WAS SHUT DOWN ON A SUNDAY westhoughton.the plod shut it . near Wigan Lancashire... near Bolton Lancashire.probly 30 YEAR'S ago.... These were .....are men...all the families laid down money..and lost it
@user-jh6cg2rx6n
6 ай бұрын
Unknown MEN.BUT SOLID TO THE CORE..EX DORMEN.. FROM THE 80S..4 KIN SOLIDS
was johny mac married to a relative of eric sleeper?
Is this Ray Hill who shit hilmself in fight or another Ray ?
@Trailhiker1
6 ай бұрын
Soon as i heard Bindon Ray and poop in pants. I definitely thought of ole Ray Hill 😂
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Different Ray
@Trailhiker1
6 ай бұрын
@@enquirer2.0 👍
No grammer. FFS. I thought you'd make a comment. Ie hard men. What are you school teacher......it begins with F and ends with F.....was that ok
Bindon Woman Beater Died Of Aids
@Georgieboy-482
6 ай бұрын
Cancer 💯per/cent
Was this binden hard or just lived off the stabbing?
@myerbarry9912
6 ай бұрын
Was well known to be handy on the London pub and club scene, ray hill said once he was getting the better of roy shaw in sparring down the Beckett and was lined up to to box Lenny McLean, so yeah well capable,
@lesgeorge9166
6 ай бұрын
What ive read and documentaries very capable !
@lmac6833
6 ай бұрын
I’ve never known anyone that can have a scrap carrying knifes about
.
complete bollocks
Look up john Longman, koed biden, shaw and several other names.
@TonyGiles-wg2pf
6 ай бұрын
Enforcer for North London lot
@santorini8423
6 ай бұрын
What about John Inman? I heard he pulled a mean inside leg
@enquirer2.0
6 ай бұрын
Cheers Tony any info you can give me help my research send contact@enquirermedia.co.uk never heard of him but il look into
@mrgreen1888
6 ай бұрын
Do you mean Albert John longman,Charlie Richardson friend.
@4thinternational283
5 ай бұрын
@@santorini8423 member of the Grace brothers firm 😂