Kang's story is being told in reverse. First, is his death (He who remains), then his fall (Kang the Conqueror), the setting up of TVA (Loki season 2), the multiversal war (Kang Dynasty), his rise to power (Secret Wars) and his beginnings (Fantastic 4)

@Fb-gj5rn

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Did you see the nod to how the timeline will look like by the time he who remains has taken control in antman 3? It almost seems like the conqueror was successful at killing all his variants or something like that.

@MrEmmanuelmack

Жыл бұрын

Confused

@danielled8665

Жыл бұрын

Ah, so kind of a River Song situation

@henrietta9206

Жыл бұрын

beautiful🤌🏻

@laloyup8164

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense

Loki being the face of the multiverse saga make sense Loki induced us to the multiverse.

I have such a deeper appreciation for these show writers/producers now. To envelop all of this stuff into a show where minute details kinda becomes blissful *white noise* as your watching it in real time is pure passion and artistry.

@andrewcheadle1753

Жыл бұрын

I’m thinking we all gunna eat crow once it’s over. They need voss to explain it to us.

@kyleidc

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing. I’m too dumb to understand any of this. Thank god we have Erik Voss and New Rockstars

@pooloftim8263

Жыл бұрын

Lol the writers and producers didn’t intentionally create any of these metaphorical connections, it’s a product of this channel and others creating them. It’s more of a testament to Eric than the show. Example: Man A is tripped by Man B. Turns into: “Man A was tripped by Man B, symbolizing how there will always be obstacles in life that you don’t anticipate and how others will try to take you down on your path to success.” See how easy that is?

@Moncriefs

Жыл бұрын

@@pooloftim8263 Yeah,No... Take care of yourself tho man

@j-bob_oreo

7 ай бұрын

​@@pooloftim8263hater

The 3 voice Majors uses as the time keepers are the exact voices he uses as the other Kangs’ in the post credit scene

@TimeKeeperBris

Жыл бұрын

Definitely has to further solidify that the fourth statue is our exiled Kang, right?

@isthatjsmoove2383

Жыл бұрын

@@TimeKeeperBris I would definitely believe so

@matthewivester8531

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to say the same thing, especially the 3rd time keep on the right, he sounds just like the immortus looking variant

@PAWTheGoldStandard

10 ай бұрын

@@TimeKeeperBris and He who remained is the future version of kang the conquer who will come back with the alieth to help defeat all the other kangs in secret wars to recreate the secret timeline, one that now includes xmen and such.

@TimeKeeperBris

10 ай бұрын

@@PAWTheGoldStandard the cycle 😎

Marvel breakdown by Erik Voss is epic. His theories are way better than some marvel movie story lines.

@moodmusic4life

Жыл бұрын

I love listening to him talk

@firstlegend5105

Жыл бұрын

Well, we gotta appreciate marvel for allowing Erik Voss to theorize the movies as a whole

@LordSaull

Жыл бұрын

Well they are theories coming from a movie that was made. Of course it’s going to be better. You have a template to correct and criticize

@ppputra

Жыл бұрын

MARVEL STUDIOS SHOULD HIRE HIM

@JR-hj2nk

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

I just gotta say all of these deep dives aren't just informational or interesting, they are engaging. Thumbs up for voss

@MadameWesker

Жыл бұрын

My new favorite channel

@eldardar8367

Жыл бұрын

Just like you 😊

@ChrisLawton66

Жыл бұрын

Thumbs up for Voss, absolutely. He and Tommy are the only guys on New Rockstars I like.

@stevenlefferts7591

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChrisLawton66even MT??

@ayemorenatheoriginal82

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Same here Voss's personality is the draw. I love his animated style. I also enjoy MT and Jessica Clemons when they show up as well 👍

I’ve always loved Loki as a character. He is so flexible, you can use him in any story in any way. Tom Hiddleston is a genius. FYI, my puppy is named Loki, the Dog of Mischief. He’s the ultimate Loki variant, kills you with cuteness.

@jaynekranc8607

7 ай бұрын

Tom is the only one who could have made Loki this loveable.

@dandywaysofliving

6 ай бұрын

Ahh my preconceived notions Dx 🖕 🐎

For those wondering what Kintsugi is: Japanese art form of repairing pottery with a glue type paint with gold flake for color. Meant to symbolize strength in healing, similar to how scar tissue is stronger than the surrounding original skin.

@DPSFSU

Жыл бұрын

Yet scars still hurt to touch (if it's that deep of a scar). Interesting

@ComptonCrypto

Жыл бұрын

The Japanese respect all aspects of life and wouldnt waste a good cup or bowl just because it's broke. It speaks deeply to their culture and general ideology. Everyone, everywhere, is absolutley beautiful

2 reasons why this video is good: - Erik spent a long time to make this project a reality and it finally paid off. - It's about He Who Remains' master plan.

I was worried that starting with more superhero content on this channel was a bad idea, but holy carp was I wrong, that WandaVision video was AMAZING, thank you so much Erik!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@squanchy666

Жыл бұрын

Praise the holy carp

@henryfowler7654

Жыл бұрын

@@squanchy666 amen

Just when I thought Erik's breakdowns cannot get any more interesting, he dives deeper further faster .... Great initiative on the channel and great video Erik!!!!!

not gonna lie... this video is quite the beauty. makes you appreciate the show more than the show on its own could have.

I love the idea of Loki being the "Iron Man" start of the Multiverse Saga, I loved watching Loki and I CANNOT wait for season 2 this summer! (Also loving The Deep Dive channel Erik!)

@lawrencemalone1900

Жыл бұрын

Tbh iron man was annoying.

@DiamondWoodStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@lawrencemalone1900 why do I get the feeling you’re probably team Captain America

@harrisonwade9038

Жыл бұрын

Ya it would be like the first Christmas if loki is the frontman of phase 5. I never gave him much thought or marvel for that til the Loki series. Completely changed my outlook on marvel and loki.

@Natta44

Жыл бұрын

I would love him to be the front man, but let's be honest they'd never let him. He'll be an intregal part and hopefully will finally meet other Avengers or variants of Avengers. But looks like they trying to make Strange or Shang chi the front man/men of the saga.

@ClarkKentGetsNohoes

11 ай бұрын

​@@Natta44he's the sorcerer supreme in the most recent comic run.

After 2 years, Loki Season 1 is STILL, in my personal opinion, the best MCU Disney Plus series with the second best Disney Plus Season Finale ever! To me, the end of the first season of Loki truly kickstarted the Multiverse Saga.

@havewissmart9602

Жыл бұрын

What was the best finale to you? Just curious

@amilkratosromero3191

Жыл бұрын

@@havewissmart9602 Same question.

@colbysteffens2976

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@TristanHathaway

Жыл бұрын

See, I think WandaVision is the best MCU project, but Episode 4 of Loki is the best single thing the MCU has done.

@ericawillis.

Жыл бұрын

Was that 2 years ago?!? Holy crap

This has to be the best breakdown i’ve seen here on KZread, you truly never disappoint

The amount of quality content Erik pushes out, Im just hoping you’re getting rest. Don’t burn out for us my guy, hope you’re taking care.

Can’t wait honestly, the upcoming Kangs and Loki S2 will be so timeywimeywibblywobbly and I love it !

I really like this format of doing a deep dive after giving these shows/movies time to breathe and going back after seeing what has happened since then. Glad you guys decided to create this channel. Can't wait to see more!

Something very interesting about every variant of Kang thus far is they 1. Warn about the other Kang variants. and 2. Say that killing them would unleash all the other Kangs. Makes you wonder who the most powerful Kang truly is, I think the true power comes from having so many powerful variants but it's been thought that Kang the Conqueror was the most powerful in battle.

This is why Loki is one of THE most important shows and my favorite Marvel disney plus show!!!! can't wait till season 2!!!!!!

Majors performance in this is phenomenal. I was hesitant about phase 5 but he gives me hope. These aren't always going to be masterpieces but neither were the originals but we got masterful moments throughout and there's a reason endgame felt so huge and conclusive. Let's hope they can build off things like this and give us moments that are equal or greater to that, even if the path is a bit bumpy along the way. Great work NR!

@Q9_yt

Жыл бұрын

Majors is a monster 😤😤😤

@crimsonstormsurge

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@TheBaBaTV

Жыл бұрын

Feige is pushed in a corner, these lgbt feminists losers are trying to destroy his work ! Like she hulk ! The girl writer threatened feige ! Thors writer sucked too!

Erik, this level of detail, effort and.... time invested is just incredible, I am in awe.

This analysis was truly beautiful and has given me a whole new appreciation of both the Loki series and the character of He Who Remains. So excited now for Loki season 2 and wish the most success to you and the team on this new endeavor!❤

41.01 He showed the Loki's the script to come but there wasn't much left. When he says "we just crossed the threshold" I took this as him meaning it literally. The citadel transition from the void (At the end of time) to the timeline (The present). Kang tests reality by dropping something but he can't see what will happen to is. This is the first time he hasn't known what would happen and he seems to be relived yet concerned. It's no longer his burden to bare but it's likely to be his end. Just my take.

I seriously picked the best day to be home sick. Won’t be able to see Quantumania until Sunday. But I’m totally here for the rest of the content. Long Live the King (Voss).

Love that Ms Minutes "Hello!" and the creapy happy face she has as she says it. So good to rewatch scenes from these shows again.

It's safe to say that The Deep Dive has already dove into our hearts. Nice work Erik and the NR team.

It’s amazing how you can metaphorically connect almost anything when try hard enough. These deep dives make the story writers seem more intelligent and thought-out than they are.

@Ultima-bo5dr

Жыл бұрын

Well maybe it is well thought out You never know

@pooloftim8263

Жыл бұрын

@@Ultima-bo5dr you’re missing the point. You can interpret nearly anything as you wish and these interpretations make up the majority of these videos. On the surface it appears multi-faceted, it’s not.

@ComptonCrypto

Жыл бұрын

@@pooloftim8263 I 100% feel you, love Eric but he reaches and makes connections that don't exist. Logical but obvious reaches. IE he oscillates between Kang "coding" the future and cultivating it. Kang says at the end he was looking for one and got two which nullifies the Sofie as a child being chosen theory.Its not hating on Eric, obviously we fucc with his content but yeah youre spot on

@j-bob_oreo

7 ай бұрын

​@@ComptonCryptosylvie?

@dandywaysofliving

6 ай бұрын

​@@ComptonCryptosometimes I convince myself vs a casual Friday. They have a probable KZreadr meta Friday based on the beast known as Matt pats legacy. . Just a day once or twice a month to keep KZreadrs guessing

You should make a video explaining the format of movies.

These long format full length breakdown/deep dives are amazing and giving me life. Great work to Erik & the entire team!!!

Congrats on a successful launch day, Erik!!! Long-form film analyses have always been my KZread go-to's, so I've been eagerly waiting for this to come out and I can't wait to see what else you'll be cooking up! You mentioned the Kintsugi motif in the citadel scenes and the huge crack is framed between Slyvie and Loki when HWR asks them to take over the TVA. This also happens again when Slyvie is holding her blade to Loki's throat. They cleverly blocked the two of them so that Loki looks like he is inching closer and closer past the crack, as if he's trying to break through what's dividing them. Now, this next part may just be pareidolia messing with my mind, but earlier on in the episode, before they "cross the threshold", there's a lot of shots of Loki and Slyvie where the Kintsugi lines almost look like strings that are pulling or puppeting them, as if directed by He Who Remains and the Sacred Timeline.

Awesome Video Erik!!! You did such a Good Job making This Video!!! I Love This Show SO Much and I'M SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR SEASON 2!!!!!!

I love the calm pacing of this video erik, it's like investigating a past mystery.

Loki was such a great show

I can’t wait for more content!! This is nerding out to the 10000th degree, and I’m here for it. Thank you! This is a lot of work & we appreciate it.

That breakdown, the eastereggs, the theories etc is just so much attention to detail. Thank you. I usually don't watch longer yt videos but I'm hooked everytime you release a new Marvel theory video.

Man I’m glad to see this bc Loki was low key my favorite mini mcu

I know this video will be good and I haven’t even watched it

These deep dive videos have really made me appreciate these series so much more! Really loving the videos on this channel so far! Keep it up!

Thank you for this new channel! As a MCU fan I am obsessed with these deep dives and exploration of missable details!

I had the same question! What was natural and what was planned? So excited for this video!

What a glorious, meta exposition! This is the first of the Deep Dive videos I've watched, but if they're all this good... I can't wait!

This deep dive really bring the Loki series to life and expands the story. Well done Erik!

What a great video essay. Lots of dichotomy - control/chaos (improvisation); self-love/love for others; dancer/non-dancers; failure/success; memory/obscurity; planned/unplanned. What a great exercise in discussion and discernment. I agree that connection could be the ultimate goal. Looking forward to future links.

This is still my favorite. There’s so much I didn’t even realize I liked until this breakdown

Just reached the ad, and I just want to say I’m loving this channel so far!! Can’t wait to see more Erik! Keep up the amazing work!

Your creativity is a joy. Thank you for sharing!

This is some of the finest content I've seen on KZread in some time. These absolute through provoking segments really cement just how intricate and interwoven the MCU's DNA is within itself. Keep up the great work Eric!

Exceptional! Excellent work on this channel!

Yay, even more content

this is so good 🦄 thanks for sharing your insights, and for highlighting the efforts of all the people making the art. thank you, 'professor voss', these first two videos are a treat!

This was amazing - makes me want to go back and watch Loki season 1 again! Well done Erik. Marvel shows and movies are so rich with info, your deep dives and breakdowns really help with fleshing things out and building excitement. Keep it up! 👏🏾😄

I love all of this so much. This really is a deep dive of things we love so much. I wish the EEAAO was out but I understand the issues.

This was damn good & very well orchestrated. Erik’s solo project is what I enjoy. More please!

This deep dive earned my subscription. Have not been a big MCU fan (with a few exceptions). This mini series was surprisingly compelling. Your explanation is so satisfying. Well done!

very good at picking a part details everything you pointed out went over my head when I watched the series good job I’m surprised I didn’t come across this content sooner.

Voss...this channel is absolutely incredible. You're really in your element here and I love this for you and for all of us who get to experience it. Major props

Love the Deep Dives! Such an engaging and wonderful format… One idea that they gave me is that Marvel is ultimately all about the characters as the connective tissue between installments and these first two dives both gave really in depth looks at particular characters through Wanda and Loki just on the nature of these shows centering them… what I would love to see is a Deep Dive on an individual character rather than a movie/show since so many great characters often find themselves secondary in these projects, but exploring the pieces of their story collectively could be great! (My first vote is for one James Buchanan “Bucky” Barnes!)

Congratulations on the new channel Erik! Enjoying this!!

Gotta say you are killing it! Love the newer, deeper content!

CONGRATS ON THE NEW CHANNEL!!! ❤

Loving these deep dives, Loki is a great show and I think it will be seen how crucial it is by the end of the multiverse saga.

CONGRATULATIONS man so happy for you!

Loved this video!!! This is my favorite kind of Voss analysis, really excited about this channel!

I didn’t thought I could love the MCU (as a whole) that much more but this, this! Thank you Eric! Thanks you New Rockstars channel. Thank you The Deep Dive channel. This is too awesome!

I think the canisters use to prune time lines is filled with the essence of Eliaith. If you look closely the colour is the same and has a swirling cloud like effect. Love the Deep Dive and look forward to the next one. Keep up the good work!

Oh this is GOOD. Excellent work putting this altogether, and narrating in total confidence of your research.

That was fantastic !!! Thank you !

Could the 4th broken statue represent Kang in Quantumania? There are 3 main Kangs, plus the banished conqueror, a symbol of a scuffle between them with one losing

@johnykilroy5521

Жыл бұрын

Interesting.....

You’re still killing me with this linear thinking… the MCU didn’t “suddenly become” a multiverse. Kang was keeping the sacred timeline svelte, but once he wasn’t, it began to branch out at every possible moment of every point from start to finish. All of time, not just from 2023 (or whatever) onward. Thus from our perspective, it was ALWAYS a multiverse.

@Powerman293

Жыл бұрын

Simultaneously therre always and never had been a multiverse since all these events happen outside of time.

Awesome content! Thanx!

Nobody does it better or with more passion than Voss. Thank you for your service 😆💕

Whether intentional or not, nearly every Marvel project centers around family. A lot of people joke, derisively or fondly, about “daddy issues” in the first couple of phases. But there are sibling rivalries and sibling love, mother-daughter conflict and support, extended family, community as family, examinations of blood family and found family…at the center is mostly one thing: love. Love fulfilled, love betrayed, the search for love, love found, a recognition that love was there even if we didn’t see it. If Kang’s weakness is love, then in a way the entire MCU has been building the perfect army to defeat him. It was Kevin Feige All Along. 😮

The deep dive gonna take over

Just wanna say thank you!!!!! I always listen for new shows to check out from you currently loving succession amazing show

Amazing video. Loved the analysis.

Loving these Deep Dives, would love to see you guys do some videos on Ted Lasso!

@snpnme2

Жыл бұрын

Second the need for Ted Lasso content!

Johnathan Major's performance as He Who Remains is so much better after seeing him as The Conquerer. Great actor.

Such great work, as always!

What a great watch! Tbh I didnt think I would sit thru the whole video. But it is so engaging that before I knew it the video has come to end. Left me wanting more! Great work! I'll Definitely be watching for future videos!

Loki 😍

Thank you so much for the work you do! I would love to see some scary/thriller/horror breakdowns & deep dives. Like the Haunting of Hill House or something :)

Supporting the Deep Dive! THANKS, Voss and folks!

i think all of these videos are some of the best videos ive ever seen eric make, super excited for more

I think you should do a deep dive on the theory that the timeline of the MCU exists as the movies themselves - like how the comics ARE the timeline. It's why the timeline exists on film in the current MCU and why it's framed from the same angles. Ultimately why YOU and I exist in the MCU in the same timeline that gwenpool comes from.

@ArtamisBot

Жыл бұрын

It also explains Kevin in she hulk

That's a good idea, that pruned folks appear on the upcoming Battleworld. They aren't so much "mistakes" but really actually special strong folks who can change the world with their existence, so Kang needs these metaphorically important folks to fight another group of metaphorical Kangs.

Love it great job !

This was absolutely fantastic!!

"I’ve been where you are. I’ve felt what you feel. Don’t ask me how I know. All I know is I don’t wanna hurt you. I don’t want a throne. I just want you to be okay." -Loki

Just me or do the three voices of the Time Keepers mirror the three voices of the top Kang variants we see in Quantumania? One robotic, one kind of muffled very serious monotone voice, and one raspy voice

Thank you so much Erick - I so enjoy your videos

I think you have the Miss Minutes jumpscare wrong. I think its a tactic from the Art of War, its an initial light attack to ensure your opponent moves how you want them to. By doing this, then immediately offering a deal, psychologically they are whiplashed and more likely to be caught off guard and manipulated.

Hope this channel does well!!

I wonder if He Who Remains knows he may have built a Council of Loki? I know it's far fetched but the Void is full of Loki's that needs inspiration. These two )Loki and Sylvie) show them what they can accomplish if they work together. Loki also said they are stronger than they think.

What a great video! Opened my eyes to new possibilities.

So good! Well done mate !

My theory is that Miss Minutes is a recording. But since Kang already knows everything that's going to happen he can record Miss Minutes to seemingly react to what people do.

This is an awesome video. The love part at the end is especially important. That’ll be the key to preventing Iron Lad from becoming Kang the Conqueror. Love for Cassie Lang. That’s also how they will tear down the Kang Dynasty in Secret Wars. The Heroes love each other, so they are are actually capable of fighting together. If we know anything about Kang Variants, it’s that they absolutely hate each other. And that is why they will lose. Could you do a video on how Secret Wars could get split into two movies? Cause here’s what I think it’s gonna be: Avengers Kang Dynasty, where the 616 heroes try and fail to protect their universe; Avengers Forever, where they gather heroes across the Multiverse to take on the Dynasty, but it just ends with the Multiverse’s destruction. How that will happen is that Wanda will come in to fight the Kang Variants herself (I’m picturing her intro to the battle will be a callback to Thor’s arrival in Wakanda, the theme music playing, and Stephen shouting “You are so screwed now!”). But that fight will cause incursions in every universe. And that’s how Wanda will fulfill her destiny. Avengers Secret Wars, where Doctor Doom creates Battleworld, Kang tries to conquer it, Mr. Fantastic will figure out how to restore the Multiverse (but it becomes the Eternalverse so there are no more incursions), the heroes have to find each other and unite to face Kang. You could also make a video on something I realized earlier today: Ant-Man now has the role that Tony Stark did in the Infinity Saga. He’s the guy that knows what’s coming, and will do everything he can to prepare. He’ll be more stable though. He will probably be the one to convince Sam to rebuild the Avengers in New World Order. Scott will likely be one of the casualties of Secret Wars.

Awesome in-depth breakdown!!

Thank you for all your videos