I liked it, but I admit, I'm disappointed there wasn't more chaos and scheming. Loki could easily grow as a person without losing those traits.

@lomalanni

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's a good point! Loki doesn't have to stop being, well, Loki, in order to be a good person.

@thelifeofme5221

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I didn't like the new Loki character. The writers didn't realize that he can be sensitive while being himself. He's still a chaos god man.

@quantummidget

3 жыл бұрын

Yep I agree. I actually really enjoyed the show, and I thought Hiddleston was great, but I wish they had kept Loki's personality and power level a bit more. I don't mind that they fast-tracked his character development to be more chill, but as you said, he could have kept his intelligence and mischievousness.

@raviolibirb8009

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like the first season is just a build up for the next season, that's why it's less chaotic

@MalloonTarka

3 жыл бұрын

@@raviolibirb8009 I hope so.

the fact that owen wilson did not say "wow" during the entire show is absolutely outrageous

@weebshrimp7617

3 жыл бұрын

RIGHT

@JoeLoquacious

3 жыл бұрын

@@weebshrimp7617 OMG GUYS; I just found a SNEAK PEEK FOR PHASE 5 OF THE MCU!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWud2KWwp82ocaw.html…

@f.b.i.853

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeLoquacious shut

@TCGproductions1

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeLoquacious NO YOU DIDN’T 😃

@ItsSansom

3 жыл бұрын

He definitely had one good "How?"

Mobius not having his jet ski is my villain origin story.

@joshhunter6928

2 жыл бұрын

James saying this show is Mid is my villain origin story.

I was a little annoyed that some of the promo material implied (or even outright stated) that we would see loki interfering with events in earths history. then we got precisely one scene in the airplane and it was never brought up again. kinda wasted that premise

@lrcht7899

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! And how they were suppose to show king Loki and New York loki

@reneerodriguez7368

3 жыл бұрын

Same here!!!

@jaelyn9694

3 жыл бұрын

i think that was their original idea. But then they changed it ig.

@bgmes5148

3 жыл бұрын

That was the only fun scene for me.

@johnnumber5660

3 жыл бұрын

It was specifically implying that he was DB Cooper. This doesn’t change anything with your take, I’m just pointing it out because it’s important to understand the joke

Loki: lifts up a building like is no business Also Loki: gets thrown off a train by 2 regular guards

@bogarthslurgegump6241

3 жыл бұрын

Now that is what pissed me off most in this show. He's a god with god powers who can use those god powers outside the TVA, and he only uses it to dry himself and push a building one time and then never uses HIS FUCKING GOD POWERS for fights or shit like that where a force strong enough to lift a goddamn building would be incredibly useful

@ausarts7542

3 жыл бұрын

That also pissed me off, and when I rewatched with my cousin we both got tilted, like when Sylvie takes control of the people in the market we were like "the fuck?" This mf can endure fucking Hulk juggling him but not an angry motorcyclist

@ThanosDestroyeryearsago

3 жыл бұрын

@@ausarts7542 the only possible explanation is when Sylvia mind controls someone she can give them Asgardian/Frost Giant level strength.

@ausarts7542

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThanosDestroyeryearsago yeah, my cousin told me that and then I thought "well, then when Sylvie pushes Loki, the fight should destroy the whole building, not just pushing a little bit the shelves? (I'm not a native speaker, I forgot this word xD)"

@squashmallow2006

3 жыл бұрын

Having Telekinesis doesn't mean you're physically strong. Loki has a resilient durable body. But he has no actual major lifting strength like Thor or Cap. Case in point, Jean Grey. She can move mountains with her mind, doesn't mean she can lift a car with her bare hands. Also, Loki's telekinesis is magic. Magic takes power. Use it rashly and you will get drained.

I actually really like the TVA offices design. They were drab, boring as hell, but there was something about the brown and orange and the lightning that made them look just a tad off. It helps with the "TVA is actually not good" thing.

@lukesguywalker

3 жыл бұрын

i agree! i felt like that was very much a deliberate choice

@waywardlaser

3 жыл бұрын

Also it was nice to see the MCU using actual sets and locations

@frostertheman1425

3 жыл бұрын

I mean we all knew that for the second we saw the trailer but it was fun watching loki break mobius out of the cycle

@lindsey4620

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah plus the retro futurism style was a nice departure from regular marvel big complex looks

@SilentNyite

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the architect actively screamed, "fuck you, i hate you" and I loved it

Let's be honest, Mobius was 100% rocking in that show

@radiofuel2733

2 жыл бұрын

No joke, he is the only reason I'll watch season 2

@ortegasvrse

2 жыл бұрын

he's literally the reason the show doesn't completely suck, i really liked his character

@surajkannam3316

2 жыл бұрын

I mistook mobius for morbius and agreed

@joshhunter6928

2 жыл бұрын

Damn i read that as Morbius

@dafphtthedislikeupdater7836

2 жыл бұрын

@@surajkannam3316 lmao same

Loki, weirdly enough, is _not_ a show for people who liked Tom Hiddleston's Loki in any of the movies.

@samg4337

3 жыл бұрын

This puts it perfectly

@LivPC

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no. Haven't seen the show yet, but as a fan of movie!Loki, this makes me dread watching it.

@maxieprimo2758

3 жыл бұрын

@@LivPC On a more positive note, the- I dunno, _vibe_ of the show is immaculate. The visuals and score were good enough to totally carry me until the last two episodes.

@navaneethkrishnansenthilku4043

3 жыл бұрын

I never liked Loki lmao. I only watched it for the lore so I wouldn't get confused later on.

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

Something just occurred to me: You know how everyone thinks that past Loki taking the Teseract in Endgame and that created a branching reality? Well, remember the scene in Infinity War where Thor says it was destroyed on Asgard? Loki couldn't hav gotten a hold of it if it was destroyed unless he intercepted it, or past Loki brought him a stolen one. 😏

i will not stop watching this show until Mobius has his jetski.

@mtotowamidiri

3 жыл бұрын

I was really hoping they’d end with that, hopefully season 2 will give us the closure we so desperately need

@hiimderek2690

3 жыл бұрын

What he needs is a zamboni

@mewow3556

3 жыл бұрын

in the last episode of the series, mobius and loki need to ride off into the sunset on a jetski

@dogomage9003

3 жыл бұрын

I regret to inform you that a seen with him on a jet ski was cut

@ConradArrowmoore

3 жыл бұрын

Addam Origo

This show’s biggest sin is casting Owen Wilson and not once having him say “wow”.

@jadenmamangon9016

3 жыл бұрын

It will happen in season 2 Mark my words.

@thebiggestofoofs3176

3 жыл бұрын

I want him to say it when he finally rides a jetski

@SmoothTurtle840

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebiggestofoofs3176 Exactly.

@beast_pasta2392

3 жыл бұрын

Waaoow

@Plasmabolt64

3 жыл бұрын

Well he does say “how” It sounded very similar

I'm no professional critic, but even I wondered how in the heck "Holding Out for a Hero" fit with that scene.

@webbyishere

3 жыл бұрын

It just made me think about shrek

@OddOneOut665

3 жыл бұрын

Cuz the '80s

@ajtucknroll4408

3 жыл бұрын

As someone who was otherwise super impressed by the show, even I gotta admit that felt jarringly out of place. Not just any show or movie can make the song work like, say, Shrek 2 can.

@linkxmidna57

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that caught me off guard; it didn’t feel deserved or fitted the scene aside from the mention Horrible compared to Shrek 2

@Capta1nTD

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajtucknroll4408 Yeah I really was happy with the show overall. But that scene was very out of place lol. The song choice just made no sense, wonder who approved that and why.

Honestly the only thing that really bothered me was the weirdass romance. They had so much potential to be weird siblings that understand each other that they never managed to have in Thor. When they kissed I was actually just going "nooooooooooooooooooooooo"

@rabidfirefox8914

Жыл бұрын

They should have bonded over their mutual love if Thor. Imagine them getting hot and bothered over how awesome Thor hits were. You know really lean into incest.

My uncle doesn’t enjoy Loki as a character since he doesn’t get why a Norse God speaks in an English accent

@a.f9234

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao can't argue with that. Did he liked the Norway song he sang in Ep3?

@IcyDiamond

3 жыл бұрын

@@a.f9234 Actually something even funnier happened, he called Loki a Greek God instead of a Norse one

@Torterra625

3 жыл бұрын

He’s not Norse. He’s not even human. He’s Asagardian, technically.

@IcyDiamond

3 жыл бұрын

@@Torterra625 Fair

@dermotmcquaid3692

3 жыл бұрын

@@Torterra625 The Old Norse people just worshipped his kind as gods, but remember what Odin said, the Asgardians are NOT gods there mortals, like humans, by with a WAY BIGGER LIFESPAN!!!!!! "We are not gods, were born, we live, we die, just as humans do!" "Give or take 5000 years!"

I like how Abba is just playing in the background of the video for no reason. Love it

@andrewhsd.2743

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@icarus7198

3 жыл бұрын

Abba should be playing in the background of all videos tbh. Would really make the whole website better

@Artificial_Idiot

3 жыл бұрын

Which abba song? Someone answered the song and he or she correct idk why you deleted your reply Name of the song “gimme gimme gimme”

@andrewhsd.2743

3 жыл бұрын

@@Artificial_Idiot i think they deleted their question and that deleted my reply

@soltandvinegar

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, Sweden is close to Norway.

Honestly some of the Loki/Sylvie scenes felt like cheesy fanfic. They could have ratcheted that back a little bit and still had a compelling, less cheesy relationship. And yes, more chaos please!

@reneerodriguez7368

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! Thank you!

@FumanyuX

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a little cheesy, but I still like it

@melfree2545

3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I told my friend when it was clear they were going the romance route with those two; “This is coming off like poorly thought out fanfic at this point.”

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

The romance felt a little weird to me too. It was one of few instances where I just want them to be friends, bc it's awkward and feels forced

@melfree2545

3 жыл бұрын

@@marshmallowvampire8503 I would have loved to see Loki and Sylvie develop a really strong familial or sibling bond instead of anything remotely hinting at romance. Apart from the fact that they’re supposed to kind of be the same person, I just think Loki is a more interesting character if he’s not paired romantically with anyone.

The thing that made the show suffer the most for me was how much they pushed loki and sylvie's relationship. It should have been built up more naturally like wanda and vision

@mr.narwhal9034

2 жыл бұрын

I think they managed to get it right by episode 5. The big problem with eps 3&4 was that they were trying to tell us outright that Loki+Sylvie was a thing, rather than just letting the character interactions show it. In 5, they are much better at just letting their actions show it.

@shadetee234

2 жыл бұрын

Or, keep them as siblings. But reverse Luke and Leia Skywalker is the ideal relationship for Michael Waldron

@hallo4411

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.narwhal9034 this is the big problem in general. They tell about a thousand times that they can't be trusted, yet loki doesn't really betray someone except for the first two ep. He didn't betray salvy and she still repeated this slogan. They just tell and don't show.. Also this is late I know

@Natta44

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, they fell in love in exactly 12 hours, if the moment they got feels was by the lake before the moon crashed.

@mydogateitall1574

2 жыл бұрын

It. Should have been built up through both seasons

I really wish this season focused on Loki accepting himself on his own (not through a romance plot, actual self acceptance) and for a second I thought we might get that in some way after classic Loki’s sacrifice bc classic loki showed him his potential. But then it…didn’t happen and instead of acceptance this season ended with Loki feeling alone and like he couldn’t trust anyone/be trusted

@TD0150

3 жыл бұрын

Well, there's still a second season coming. Considering his self-acceptance is the general theme, I can't see why they wouldn't deliver when the time comes.

@razorsaber2287

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta hit the low lows, if it’s to go well they better go in on thst

@dorsab8627

3 жыл бұрын

A couple of people said that the romance is supposed to be a metaphor for self acceptance?? But honestly i dont see it, nor do i believe we need metaphors for every single thing. Self-acceptance can be just that. Self acceptance. And honestly for a show with loki in it- i also expected more clever hijinks rather than romance becoming a plot point . Lowkey feels like a fanfiction to me. And i loved both loki and sylvie 😥

@Sh1ftane

3 жыл бұрын

Felt like Loki's character arc could have been drawn off longer throughout the season. Having most of it happen in Episode 1 kind of made Loki (the character) boring.

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

Why not a romance plot? Romance plots are far and few between these days. Modern audiences have decided they don’t want to see relationships anymore and that’s just silliness.

At least Alligator Loki is the superior Loki of them all.

@henrik6739

3 жыл бұрын

Let's call him Croki

@AxxLAfriku

3 жыл бұрын

Me the ALPHA M*LE of this comment section and me command RESPECT. Right now me telling you to NOT observe any of me nice cool sweet videos. Instead just look at me awesome good powerful thumbnails. Thank you, dear li

@savary5050

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku can you please just get a life

@StealthBeeKid

3 жыл бұрын

I belive in croc Loki supremacy

The first thought I had after watching the show was “I wish there was more Loki in this Loki show”

When Loki and Silvie kissed I just looked at my dad and asked him, "Did they just kiss themselves." I'm still unsure to happy or disgusted.

@alr6800

3 жыл бұрын

It was more of a distraction kiss than an I love you kiss

@jlinus7251

3 жыл бұрын

@JSW - that's a dumb argument. A lot of sci fi concepts will never happen, doesn't mean discussing the morality of it is useless. For example you can still determine whether something that is hypothetical would be morally wrong by using similar real life premises. As for loki kissing himself, the moral argument about this being incest is that they literally came from the same parents. Doesn't matter that they're from different universes because apparently they're very close genetically. So someone finding it disgusting is valid. Just cause you ship it doesn't mean you get to stop discourse.

@Cauldron6

3 жыл бұрын

@@jlinus7251 they don’t share genetics, they only share a temporal aura. They mention it in the first episode.

@majahultgren5368

3 жыл бұрын

@JSW - Thor’s brother kissed Thor’s sister. When you put it like that it sounds much weirder. If they are two completely different characters then why couldn’t Sylvie just be another character? The whole thing just feels icky

@Bennieboy918

3 жыл бұрын

@JSW - you mixed ip the “J” and the “S” in your name

I think loki's music is extremely underrated and isn't talked about much.

@roxanne_

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I think the music highlight point for me was during episode 5 for when Old Loki sacrificed himself . IT WAS SO GOOD it honestly gave me goosebumps as well as the variant theme of course.

@spacepug4465

3 жыл бұрын

Natalie Holt doing god's work 👏👏

@JollyOliW

3 жыл бұрын

@@roxanne_ that's one of the reasons why falcon and the winter soldier is my least favourite because loki and wandavision had great music

@Ooffoop

3 жыл бұрын

Not in KZread comments I’ve seen it brought up on a entirely unrelated video at the near mention of the show

@blo0m300

3 жыл бұрын

I liked the music in the post credits scene when we saw the Loki variants

Ok, I won’t lie.... I only watched this to hear Schaff’s opinion on the holding out for a hero scene

@IcyDiamond

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly forgot about that scene lol

@JoeLoquacious

3 жыл бұрын

@@IcyDiamond OMG GUYS; I just found a SNEAK PEEK FOR PHASE 5 OF THE MCU!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWud2KWwp82ocaw.html…

@Max-nh2jc

3 жыл бұрын

@@IcyDiamond should’ve saved it for old Loki’s sacrifice

@IcyDiamond

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeLoquacious Nah you’re a liar

@IcyDiamond

3 жыл бұрын

@@Max-nh2jc That would’ve been great!

Sylvie and Loki having a brother-sister dynamic honestly fit them more, her role turning into a romantic one felt kind of unnecessary

@austincarlson9270

2 жыл бұрын

meh, she's attractive, he's attractive, they both lonely, I'm digging it

Will applaud the Loki Series for one thing: introduced the public at large to the concept of “selfcest”. Welcome to the dark side of doujin, scrubs!

@Itariatan

Жыл бұрын

Wrong, try Johnny Test

I honestly quite like the look of the TVA. The late 60’s-70’s feel is great to me

@sydy9742

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I didn’t realize the environment threw some people off because I loved it

@rottenbass5932

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. Gives you an analog eerie vibe a bit and I just loved it so much. And that theremin in the theme just fits so well aah

@HiHello-cw9vc

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same

@JakeVisser

3 жыл бұрын

im not trying to be that guy but its more a 70s look not 50s-60s

@rottenbass5932

3 жыл бұрын

@@JakeVisser jesus alright its not that deep lmao

This show is the definition of “When you unlock the boss as a playable character”

@materla4102

3 жыл бұрын

and they nerf him and made him a comedic relief, that actually fits really great :D

@rjofusetsudzin8011

3 жыл бұрын

@@materla4102 Personally i love him exactly how much different is from Thanos. I dont need somebody 2.0. But his other variations obviously are gonna be more serious.

@materla4102

3 жыл бұрын

@I DON’T KNOW WHO I AM welp, I thought this comment was about Loki, my bad

I loved the show, but in retrospect I really dislike Lamentis. I kept expecting Sylvie to reveal she was brainwashing Loki, or Loki to reveal he actually hadn't broken the tempad, either of which would have been a good twist and would have explained away some of the inconsistencies. Instead we got nothing, it really was Loki being an idiot for an episode.

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I personally dislike that Loki is portrayed as a fool just bc.😒 Idk the point of it. Plus Loki never had a problem having confidence so now that he suddenly has those problems is a bit weird. A lot of ppl here say the point is for him to learn this new 'self love' concept, which shows a huge flaw in our society: that we don't know that we can be confident and capable (which is not the same as self love, which usually turns to arrogance) without self love. In my opinion, Loki already underwent an arch in Ragnaröc, and displayed it in Infinity War. I feel instead of making him start over his arch by bringing his evil past self to the present, they should've had Loki live to continue being a changed man or just forget having the Loki series bc its why?

@mr.stuffdoer8483

2 жыл бұрын

Frankly Loki’s shift in behavior works really well; he just found out his existence had no meaning and he was destined to obtain the only thing he ever wanted before immediately being killed. That’s gonna fuck you up and you’re gonna behave a fair bit differently after it.

@valehuber2232

2 жыл бұрын

@@marshmallowvampire8503 why r u commenting everywhere that u dont like the self care concept, as if caring for urself and ur well being is bad, and also just bc he acted confident doesnt mean he was, he relied on people telling him and glorifying him to feel good, thats not being confident at all

@ZyliceLiddell

8 ай бұрын

Loki acted like he was ‘brainwashed/enchanted’ by Sylvie. He was *STUPEFIED!*

@ZyliceLiddell

8 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@valehuber2232But at least he was such fun, amazingly acted and complicated character to watch (and to play by the looks of it) and now he’s a *STUPID BORING HUSK* and Tom’s either acting like an idiot or a *SAP!* (Was he told to or was he improvising either way? It was uncomfortable to watch!) It was such a jarring change of character that my mother was worried for his health and thought that he may have been forced onto drugs! 😨😟

I would rather Loki have NO love interest at all then for it to be Sylvie😐

@jaelyn9694

3 жыл бұрын

it sucks forcing male characters to have love interests. I prefer him to be alone for sure.

@LivPC

3 жыл бұрын

I really like Sylvie, but this whole romance just feels very forced. Would prefer Loki with no love interests, just him in chaotic, meta situations.

@tgsmokio

2 жыл бұрын

selfcest

@georgeplunkitt5565

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree completely, I think Sylvie is the only love interest for Loki that makes sense. It’s funny and sensible that someone as narcissistic as he is can only fall in love with someone who is literally himself.

@maskeddude9892

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgeplunkitt5565 But Loki isnt a narc tho, he have kind of an ego and acts superior, but he seens to be very insecure because of Odin, Thor and his species. He acts tough but hes not

I feel like Marvel constantly understimates Loki. Hes got great abilities and his character is amazing but they barely do anything with the character which sucks

@thomaz3235

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't that the whole point of old Loki ? To show how strong a Loki can be

@mking5785

3 жыл бұрын

@Nina Also, also how his whole relationship was rushed and forced for no reason, lmao

@noahh1082

3 жыл бұрын

They gave him his own tv show what more do you want

@noahh1082

3 жыл бұрын

They gave him his own tv show what more do you want

@cherrychocolate1434

3 жыл бұрын

@Nina Exactly! I'm shocked more people aren't calling that aspect out in particular. Why would Loki have ANY reason to believe that this footage of himself is real to begin with, and why would it affect him so much? He's the literal god of mischief, his whole business is tricking people and he should just see this as some kind of trick or ploy to distract him. And watching a movie of all the great moments in your future is not at all the same as actually going through that yourself, so again, why would this affect Loki in any way?

This will be a nice double feature with "Black Widow is a movie that exists".

@IcyDiamond

3 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to hear him bash that movie!

@lukepotter9260

3 жыл бұрын

Schaffrillis said he wouldn't make a review on black widow

@ThemeParkAvenue

3 жыл бұрын

@@muireanndoyle9400 I think Schaffrillas gave it a 7/10 on Letterboxd

@pedrofreitas4662

3 жыл бұрын

He said on his letterboxd that he doesn't have much to say for a video review

@jimmyrahi427

3 жыл бұрын

YEAH EXACTLY i didnt really enjoy it

I feel like the romance plot was very unnecessary and felt like they only added it because they needed romance. I’m also not a fan of them having Loki not being Loki-like. They kind of forced his personality to change too quickly. He’s not really mischievous for being the god of mischief. He’s kind of just there being a character, but not really Loki.

@melfree2545

3 жыл бұрын

The Slyvie/Loki stuff definitely felt like poorly written fanfic. I think I would have preferred if he had just come to care for her as a sister. We know from the rest of canon that Loki does indeed love Thor, and now he doesn’t have Thor. I’d have liked to see him explore a more familial relationship rather than romantic. Loki is one of those characters that I have never wanted to see in a romantic plot.

@evehellod9776

3 жыл бұрын

@@melfree2545 Yeah, that’s precisely it! Movies and series also need more familial relationships or friendships, since they almost always opt for a romantic relationship between characters. So it really would’ve felt much better and natural for them to not instantly fall in love with each other.

@trent6319

2 жыл бұрын

@@melfree2545 also if you want to give him a romantic plot don't make it with a copy of himself. Also they mentioned he was bi but had to make a girl version of him for the purpose of a romantic plot like why.

@MarianaHidden

2 жыл бұрын

@@melfree2545 i like them together but you have a great point

@MarianaHidden

2 жыл бұрын

@@trent6319 because he is such a narcissist and a bisexual can still like people of the opposite sex?

The romance plot with himself is where it got ruined for me

@apurvd6177

3 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with a bit of self Love?

@camoking3609

3 жыл бұрын

@@apurvd6177 "now folks they say you should love yourself but this is ridiculous" *sitcom laugh track*

@umjammerlammy9993

3 жыл бұрын

Marvel really be like "why acknowledge gay relationships when can acknowledge Oncelercest?"

@brigade7678

3 жыл бұрын

@@umjammerlammy9993 oh god.... I just now realized the horror this could have unleashed; a new wave of oncelercest reanimated from its Tumblr grave ;~;

@franciscrozierera

3 жыл бұрын

literally. im so tired of disney forcing *heterosexual* couples into every fucking movie/show

I feel like the dark and bland themes of the scenes within the TVA represent what the TVA stands for. Stuffy and unpleasant and corrupt. Somewhere you don’t want to be. Somewhere sinister. This scenery makes the times when they get out even better and more vivid. Seeing a character not in a suit was exciting. The apocalypses and the pruning area are meant to be horrible, and yet they look so much better than the place that’s supposed to be good. It’s a subtle way of making you understand that the TVA is corrupt and horrible. And it makes a lot of sense in the end.

I need to see Mobius on a jet ski, we all need to see Mobius on a jet ski…

@danman4326

3 жыл бұрын

This is needed for season 2

@JoeLoquacious

3 жыл бұрын

@@danman4326 OMG GUYS; I just found a SNEAK PEEK FOR PHASE 5 OF THE MCU!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWud2KWwp82ocaw.html…

@Fan-do8xy

3 жыл бұрын

Morbius is the vampire

@auroraalpha34

3 жыл бұрын

it's the MCU version of Chekov's gun, see a gun in the wall on the first act? use the gun as a sequel hook for 3 TV series, 2 movies and a branded happy meal release

@Username_ladiesman217

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeLoquacious 😑

This show is the perfect example of why sometimes romance just ruins absolutely everything, especially in fantasy

I keep hearing arguments that the show is about Loki learning to love himself, however I don’t think it works in that way at all. I thought before that the whole thing about Loki is that he *only* loves himself. Even willing to backstab his own brother if it meant he got ahead. If anything it’s more so about Loki learning to be more selfless but they confuse both of those lessons to where it feels like neither were satisfying. Loki’s whole relationship with sylvie is just so poorly written and built up to where most people I was talking to thought the relationship was just Loki playing her the whole time. He randomly falls in love her with in episode 3 after merely seeing her face, it’s just so odd. Is he supposed to be selfish because he only loves himself or is he selfless because he learns to love someone other than himself, but it’s still himself??? The classic Loki in episode 5 had better development in one line when he said “I missed my brother”. Add on top of that the sacrifice at the end of that episode and it seemed that one minor character had a better version of the same story arc as the main character.

@emilyhale1049

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. The relationship feels super forced and it’s sad that I was able to call the fact that they were pushing the romantic relationship from the moment it was revealed the variant was a girl. Disney is so aggressive with pushing some type of romance in each of their series that you can call it the moment two main characters are the opposite sex. It drives me nuts and it confuses the whole message, as Loki in the first episode admits he doesn’t want to hurt people, that he doesn’t enjoy hurting people. This would be a good starting point for a development of learning to embrace that Loki can love other people. That he can have relationships with others without using them. But they had to mess it up so quickly. I love this show, love to see where it’s going, but the whole message behind it and the romance plot is so awkward and off balance.

@undercoverfangirl5491

3 жыл бұрын

No, it was never that Loki only “loves” himself. It was that Loki only “had” himself. Those are two different things. He had problem with self love since he was a child and that never changed. Looking from acceptance from everyone but himself and thinking that no one but himself can see his true value. His entire sorry and everything he’s done was trying to show others that he is valuable and deserves love and acceptance, but never quite from himself. The show is about self love and self acceptance. He was always dependent on others to give that to him but never gave it to himself. With Sylvie it’s like looking into a mirror. He sees the potential in her and everything wonderful about her, which then we know he could potentially see that in himself as well. I believe there’s a second season so hopefully he can learn to see himself as he sees Sylvie without actually having to have her be there with him. Also, I can’t help but think you never understood Loki as a character. Maybe I’m wrong, but you were definitely wrong when you said Loki only loved himself. Especially since in episode 3 (I think it was) Loki had given Sylvie this whole metaphor about how love isn’t actually real. How could he love only himself when he doesn’t think love is even real?

@abraham2172

3 жыл бұрын

If you have seen enough Hollywood movies, it feels absolutely natural. One man, one woman, both attractive, have a little talk - boom. Love.

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

You're right. Plus Loki never had a problem having confidence which shows a huge flaw in our society: that a lot of ppl don't recognize we can be confident and capable which is not the same as self love (self love usually turns to arrogance). In my opinion, Loki already underwent an arch in Ragnaröc, and displayed it in Infinity War. I feel instead of making him start over his arch by bringing his evil past self to the present, they should've had Loki live to continue being a changed man or just forget having the Loki series bc its why?

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

Something just occurred to me: You know how everyone thinks that past Loki taking the Teseract in Endgame and that created a branching reality? Well, remember the scene in Infinity War where Thor says it was destroyed on Asgard? Loki couldn't hav gotten a hold of it if it was destroyed unless he intercepted it, or past Loki brought him a stolen one. 😏 Just food for thought

TVA is supposed to be a bureaucracy, so I think the ugly color scheme and the lack of creativity works really well.

@HumanTypewriter

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think Scaf just didn't understand anything he saw in this show

@Sofie-303

3 жыл бұрын

but doesn't it get boring to look at after a while though?

@sofiagutierrez2566

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sofie-303 I personally didn’t mind. I think it is supposed to be lifeless, representing the lack of choice and free will that the TVA is all about.

@pietrocatalano4285

3 жыл бұрын

That's true, and I appreciate it, but I think that it also bored a lot of the viewers during those episodes.

@HumanTypewriter

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sofie-303 Not to me, it's clearly supposed to be very Kafkaesque. It's meant to be this very bureaucratic, overly complicated place. I think it's kind of fascinating. To be honest it was my favorite part of the show.

Fair points here, never really thought about the show from this perspective. It really worked for me in its entirety, though. Probably my favorite of the MCU shows because, for me anyway, I pretty much just enjoyed it the whole way through, no weird ups and downs. Wandavision and Falcon had their moments for me, but it felt like every episode here had something in it that really got to me. Even episode 3 was just visually arresting. That moment at the end, the desperation in their faces 🤌 Maybe I just like it so much because Black Widow made me so upset.

@coco4wii193

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Mostly agree.

@Gemnist98

3 жыл бұрын

Yooooo love your videos!

@dougthedonkey1805

3 жыл бұрын

You didn’t like Black Widow? Can I ask why not?

@solfolgarait3745

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I really liked the show, WAY more than WandaVision & TFATWS

@IcyDiamond

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I loved Loki yet hated Black Widow

I kinda wished that they focused more on Loki's character more, since there was no time for him to proceed anything, like finding out the destruction of Asgard

i finally found someone that noticed how stupid Loki acts in this series.

I'm looking forward for when Schafrillas reviews a show that doesn't exist

@clara-mj3fy

3 жыл бұрын

april fools video?

@joshuajoe1419

3 жыл бұрын

He did that for the Shark Tale Snyder Cut.

@monogatari...

3 жыл бұрын

the life action of Avat- oh wait there is not such thing in Ba Sing Se, here we are safe here we are free

@ioannislelou6437

3 жыл бұрын

@@monogatari... Now that we are talking about AtLA - Do you have any idea where you can watch that?

@savary5050

3 жыл бұрын

@@ioannislelou6437 Netflix

I feel like a lot of people are either completely raving about the show or completely shifting on it. In my personal opinion it was fun to watch, but it wasn’t like, the best thing ever. It was just a fun show.

@gabrielacarrillo1740

3 жыл бұрын

It's nice to have a fun show.

@mking5785

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I loved Loki in every Marvel movie, but this show was just 'okay'. I liked the plot, but for me personally it could have done much better without the forced romance that Disney pushes on every movie now.

@gabrielacarrillo1740

3 жыл бұрын

@@mking5785 I can understand how it seems 'forced'. I don't feel that was the intention of the showrunners/writers. It seemed to have reflect the narcissistic nature of the character. Though it could have been improved if the self/romantic interest between one another was subtle and cunning. I might need another watch on it though, as I watched it weekly as opposed to one go.

@mking5785

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielacarrillo1740 Yeah, it's one of those things I'm super iffy on because no one really clarified that that was what the relationship was. I do understand the irony of him falling for himself, but I just don't think it was executed the best. I should probably go rewatch it too though just to see.

The whole plot is pointless if you think about the ultimate ending from Kang’s perspective. He wanted a replacement but didn’t care if he died and the multiverse gets thrown to shit? So then why all this fuss? Just summon a Loki to the citadel and let him take over. Episode 1 Loki would’ve accepted in a heartbeat.

@alr6800

3 жыл бұрын

Who knows maybe he was trying to get killed so a stronger version of him can actually take his place like really why would you want Loki to control a timeline

@mnemosyne1337

3 жыл бұрын

@@alr6800 Suicide is an option though, right? And if he wanted to get killed he could’ve summoned episode 1 Loki immediately to the citadel. Hell, he could’ve just summoned Sylvie right then and there. The problem with this show here is that jumped the shark by bringing in God who has been controlling everything since the very beginning. Meaning every single event you saw in the Marvel movies was supposed to happen that way or else that person/timeline would get pruned. There is no free will, no stakes or choices. The things that happen were always going to happen no matter what.

@carlotta4th

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but he says something about Loki not being able to do it alone, he ran all sorts of scenarios and it had to be the two of them. So the whole process of getting them there was just to prepare them for the job (note that he only SAYS this, I don't actually buy it as a legitimate plot reason).

@mnemosyne1337

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlotta4th I think that’s stupid. He could’ve just simulated that and see what would’ve happened with two Lokis. And besides why does he care what happens to the universe? He literally doesn’t care if he dies because another version of him would take his place. None of this stuff matters for him. The TVA is literally a joke he created. If he cared about running it properly he would’ve made smarter choices like not living alone and stuff.

@Anna-wq4hm

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but Loki wouldn’t have changed and go though the whole learning journey thing... honestly I was disappointed

I still say, Wandavision is surprisingly the best MCU show and still...I find Loki to be interesting...and people always seem to forget that this Loki...isn't our Loki.

@Anna-wq4hm

2 жыл бұрын

Yessss same

@Anna-wq4hm

2 жыл бұрын

Like I love Loki and I’ve been waiting to watch it the most but now I just think wandavition is better somehow

@ZyliceLiddell

8 ай бұрын

He’s Woki Joki, Soapi!

I think you've missed the point of TVA desing and that Loki drunk singing segment in train. TVA is litterally a bureaucratic, kafkaesque organization, it's supposed to look like a really boring office, and yet they touched it with a really nice flare of retro style which is quite unusual especially for a big sci fi/fantasy block buster production. It's very original in it's own way. And that scene in episode 3 when Loki gets drunk and sings, represents a lot of things changing within this character, He litterally says that "nothing matters" He feels hopeless when being inside of an Apocalypse and faceing off the greates power in the whole universe which is TVA, his whole world view just change drastically and that's how He express this feelings by being hedonistic

@mayacollins3447

3 жыл бұрын

I also enjoyed the design to some extent of the TVA but I do believe there was something lacking to it, but I would say it was more because of the cinematography. Episode three wasn't paced correctly. Sure the scene in a bubble was a good one, but with the episode sandwiching and the aimlessness of it, didn't necessarily make for an engaging story.

Hot take: it shouldn’t have been Loki and Sylvie as the show’s main duo. It should’ve been Loki and Mobius.

@luigiwiiUU

3 жыл бұрын

agreed although i think Sylvie is a cool character

@dorsab8627

3 жыл бұрын

No no youre absolutely correct . I thought sylvie was going to be the minor antagonist

@theredphoenix5545

3 жыл бұрын

youre so fucking right

@swagingexo_osh8487

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@haveagoodday7021

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly their chemistry was 100x better. But then they went with pseudo-selfincest since the writers don't know how to communicate. Tbh I would've liked if Loki just didn't get with anyone this season and just stayed bros with Mobius.

It felt to me like it was going through the motions. The story and character beats were there but I didn’t feel anything Also: this Loki variant lost a lot of his charisma and agency

@Anna-wq4hm

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they just made him dumb and in love for the whole season instead of mischievous, smart and witty... They just had to force it into a love interest between them instead of trusting friendship for Loki, who cannot be trusted.

@Blue-Apple-fc9eo

Жыл бұрын

@@Anna-wq4hm I disagreed with you.

I feel like Schaff says “I dunno” a lot whenever he’s about to voice an opinion he knows people are gonna disagree with. (Edit: HOLY CRAP THANKS FOR 200 LIKES YOU GUYS!! I've never gotten this many likes on a comment before!)

@freshegg3055

3 жыл бұрын

Oh!

@lauryw

3 жыл бұрын

o i do that too

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

Something just occurred to me: You know how everyone thinks that past Loki taking the Teseract in Endgame and that created a branching reality? Well, remember the scene in Infinity War where Thor says it was destroyed on Asgard? Loki couldn't hav gotten a hold of it if it was destroyed unless he intercepted it, or past Loki brought him a stolen one. 😏 So for those of you that want to ignore the Loki series.

@TP3200

3 жыл бұрын

Roger Ebert, though known for being eloquent when he wanted to be, also wrote "I dunno" in his movie reviews for similar reasons.

@ajtucknroll4408

2 жыл бұрын

@@TP3200 Huh that's interesting. I guess Schaffrillas steals from the best then.

I know this is uncommon opinion... But I loved the first 2 episodes.... The buddy cop between Mobius and Loki is just great. And I love everything that happens in TVA. I know very unpopular

@kirbwarriork3371

2 жыл бұрын

If the whole show was Mobius and Loki being buddy cops while working in this increasingly villainous organization, I'd love that.

@Ellisepha

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirbwarriork3371 yeah. I kind of expected that the show would be about those two and Loki slowly making Mobius realize how wrong and corrupt the TVA was. Plus more Loki-like timetravel shenanigans.

@highdefinition450

2 жыл бұрын

I was kind of apprehensive while watching them since I was burned by Wandavision but in retrospect, they were the most fun episodes of the bunch, yeah

@heartlessanedes9509

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! Those were my favorite episodes by far

@heartlessanedes9509

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ellisepha I couldnt agree more

While I did enjoy the shows , i will admit needed more Owen Wilson.

@carlodavies9227

3 жыл бұрын

HACKER!?!!???!!!

@robin_is_emo7479

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@secondbestjojo1300

3 жыл бұрын

Kachou

@stamp08

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@nekoanimator

3 жыл бұрын

First comment, lmao

The “Brown, stale, offices of the TVA” is the point. It’s supposed to have a stark contrast between that and what we know about Loki, royalty. I’ll admit, the fight choreography is tragically bad. But overall, I think this show nails what it’s supposed to do: Make Loki a convincing anti-hero, which it does.

I genuinely feel bad for people who think this show was bad overall. Like damn they experience what I’m seeing

Honestly I just feel like Loki just takes a backseat to everyone else’s stories. Like he felt directionless, everyone had a goal, except for Loki. After the season finale I hope they really just focus on him now that it’s possible Sylvie and Mobius are taking the bench

@Didartie

3 жыл бұрын

Loki is supposed to be goalless. Loki was arrogant and disconnected from his emotions and just pressed them down. the show did a great job at breaking his ego and humbling him, finally making him see what he has done and making him feel like the goals he had were literally nothing in the grand scheme of things in the scene where he found infinity stones just laying around in a drawer.

@kathleenasmus159

3 жыл бұрын

fr, I felt this too. Loki really didn't have his own true agency in the show that was supposed to be about him. After being the secondary character or villain in all the other mcu movies this show was supposed to show his character at the forefront and that just... didn't happen. I think that aspect is the biggest reason on why I didn't feel connected with the show.

@TheCNotes1

3 жыл бұрын

Part of the whole season is about him finding his purpose. It began with being thrown out of time and an existential crisis for him. A universally humbling revelation doesn't necessarily puts you in the narrative position of dynamic asskicker, which would never fit this character anyways btw. he's always been a schemer in the context of the MCU, and an unsuccessful low level one at that! Ofc he's going to take a backseat and observe other people's problems. THAT'S WHAT HE'D DO. Honestly, Schaf's opinion (and yours too I suspect) seems to be rooted in expectations for Loki as if he were the character in the comics, who is a massive threat and a genuine mastermind who also oozes smarmy charisma, and not the pompous self-important sad little boy who also oozes charisma that Hiddleston has played (masterfully, I might add) since 2011.

@Didartie

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCNotes1 exactly my point!

@shaneyy__

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCNotes1 are you implying we’re supposed to accept that Loki successfully took over Asgard and had the entire population believing he was Odin because he’s an unsuccessful low level schemer?

The reason he gets drunk in The third episode, is because he has an identity crisis, after all he Saw in episodes 1 and 2 his worldview had drastically change, he got drunk just to relax.

@ninjanibba4259

3 жыл бұрын

I wish people got that, it’s obvious

@cleodavatus1099

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah like he doesn’t have to be clever all the time to be a clever person

@kodekYT

3 жыл бұрын

For real, dude is DEAD (LITERALLY) and just noticed that his life's chase was worthless in the big scheme, I can't take this guy seriously after he said Wandavision started *good*

@yousefsh7949

3 жыл бұрын

@@kodekYT it did start good and wandavision is way better than loki in my opinion. I felt more emotionally connected to the characters in wandavision and the acting in that show is brilliant.

@kodekYT

3 жыл бұрын

@@yousefsh7949 tbh I hated it from episode 1, the comedy took a real hit at the drama and tension and the ending was the cherry on top, the problem was that the humor DIDN'T change based on the time period, many jokes were literally stolen from other marvel movies and the show seemed to lack self awareness, plus that boner joke also took a hit to the tension

Loki was nerfed so hard, he wasn’t even the same character. I can’t believe people think this show is good because the writing sucked so bad. The pacing in the last episode was horrible, too. They literally dragged out that sitting scene for 38 minutes. Dragged. Sylvia even repeated one of her lines.

@mrgaudy1954

2 жыл бұрын

I only watched the first two episodes but the terrible pacing was immediately apparent. Covering 25 minutes worth of material in 1 hour does not make a good show. Also, I get that they were going for the "fish out of water" approach with Loki but immediately stripping a character of every trait that previously defined them doesn't really make for a great titular show.

@danielnidhiry5796

2 жыл бұрын

it is literally a boss vs boss as a playable character meme

@Blue-Apple-fc9eo

2 жыл бұрын

Not really I disagreed

@JcoleMc

Жыл бұрын

Watch out disney's bots are gonna get this comment pulled

@skafu9229

Жыл бұрын

​@@JcoleMc what is disney 's bots

Im suprised he didn't talk about the music for the series. Natalie Holt did an amazing job with the score

Two points I’d like to bring up: 1. Natalie Holt’s music is beautiful in this series. The recurring violin motifs have so much passion in them and make a lot of scenes more dramatic, more emotional or more epic (also the theme tune is so cool, the fast ticking clock in the background with the orchestra in front as the black and white text shifts across the screen is 👌) 2. Jonathon majors as Kang in the finale might be one of my favourite performances in the mcu so far. An episode that is 90% expository dialogue could’ve been extremely boring and slow but Jonathon just steals the show. His performance is dramatic when it needs to be, funny at times and when he is funny it has a slight sinister undertone to it. It also makes me excited to think of that line “if you think I’m bad wait til you meet my variants” I’m really looking forward to what he brings in future projects like multiverse of madness or quantumania

@habanerogator

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly one of the only interesting characters in this story. A crazy unsociable man waiting to meet his demise since he has lived for too long yet doesn't want to make his life work go to waste. His reaction when he doesn't know what's going to happen and his expression for just a second changes from immense glee to slight fear is honestly insane. What a talented actor. And when he gets stab right before you can see him ease into peace, he looks at Sylvie and just gives the biggest "You messed up look" while still holding that sinister smile.

@Asfian11

3 жыл бұрын

Not enough people are talking about the music, it’s god tier

@johankiwii

3 жыл бұрын

Jonathon Majors performance as Kang just felt like an uninspiring take on Jesse Eisenbergs performance as Lex luthor, with the same "wachy weird" antagonist wibe. Not a fan.

@trixxartarchive7705

3 жыл бұрын

I personally thought that Kang was kind of average though I would like to see the variants of him season 2 looks like it's going to be good. Though it is a shame that none of the other show are getting other seasons because I would love to see a season 2 of Wandavision.

@trixxartarchive7705

3 жыл бұрын

@@Asfian11 I love the intro song

Not even to talk about the Freudian mess of the different creative heads’ views on Loki and Sylvie’s relationship with one saying mother, and another saying sister

@jdmizu

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr the headwriter of the series said he purposely wrote the Sylvie / Loki relationship as romantic, Kate said she directed it as platonic and the one in charge of the music said "she's like his mother"

@photosynthesiser4279

3 жыл бұрын

FR its so weird, the head writer made it romantic, the lead director said its self acceptance and the composer saw 'Loki looking at Sylvie the way he looked at Frigga' and centred her theme around it. The relationship is still wack bc they both have the same parents?? Regardless of when their nexus event occurred. If the timeline was the same throughout then they had the same parents. But they tried making okay by changing her name to Sylvie and giving her blonde highlights and never mentioning Thor, which all the other Lokis mentioned since he was integral to developing Lokis character even in childhood. And passed it off as 'oh its been so long ive forgotten' like??? just WEIRD as

@Slender_Man_186

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdmizu when talking about old gods, wether they be Greek, Roman, or Norse, what you described is just another Tuesday.

@dorsab8627

3 жыл бұрын

@@photosynthesiser4279 if they were so desperate for a romantic plot they could have ...you know, NOT have sylvie be another loki?? Maybe she could have just faked the loki title or sth??? And they could have their cake and eat it too? There are so many ways around it WHY did the writers decided on THAT specific route??

@anna-flora999

3 жыл бұрын

@@dorsab8627 maybe they now how popular selfcest can be

WATCH 2 SEASON WATCH SECOND SEASON WATCH 2 SEASON

This show was a huge disappointment for those Loki fans who loved and followed Tom Hiddleston's decade long Journey as Loki from Thor 1 to Avengers Infinity War. Never before I have felt so pissed, sad and disappointed after watching a show. Imagine waiting for your favourite character's show for years only for him to be sidelined as a sidekick.

Best marvel show on Disney+ so far

@y2kaylaog

3 жыл бұрын

me when i lie

@TheTatermeister

3 жыл бұрын

Insanity

@regularsizeddude859

3 жыл бұрын

That was a lie

@JoeLoquacious

3 жыл бұрын

@@y2kaylaog OMG GUYS; I just found a SNEAK PEEK FOR PHASE 5 OF THE MCU!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWud2KWwp82ocaw.html…

@Username_ladiesman217

3 жыл бұрын

Croc loki is Best waifu

Loki isn’t a show that just exists It might have Glorious Purpose

@mattyvarnas1736

3 жыл бұрын

That purpose is to travel in time. I'm heading back to 2013. I must warn my 12 year old self to start using Twitter and Instagram.

@JoeLoquacious

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattyvarnas1736 OMG GUYS; I just found a SNEAK PEEK FOR PHASE 5 OF THE MCU!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWud2KWwp82ocaw.html…

@Username_ladiesman217

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeLoquacious Stop it please get some help

@randomperson8994

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@TacticalAnt420

3 жыл бұрын

And it’s for all time. Always.

Alligator Loki is by far the best part about the whole show

Silivi and Loki’s relationship was so uncomfortable it felt like incest. I got chills every time your brought it up.

@Erik_Montesinos

3 жыл бұрын

Except they are in no way related

@EmoBrotherREAL

3 жыл бұрын

@@Erik_Montesinos well if there parents were the same, then there DNA would be very simila to that of a cousin.

@huntsman9316

3 жыл бұрын

@@Erik_Montesinos they are the same person. So, sorta

@Erik_Montesinos

3 жыл бұрын

@@EmoBrotherREAL they don’t have the same parents

@EmoBrotherREAL

3 жыл бұрын

@@Erik_Montesinos If they don’t have the same parents then one of them isn’t Loki and if the parents were different versions then they would have been taken by the TVA as well which they weren’t.

I mean honestly you gotta take from perspective that this is the Loki from The First Avengers. One who hasn't gone through everything the loki from infinity war went through. All though he knows what happened, he hasn't experienced. He saw what happens In his future and now he's gotta find himself.

@carlotta4th

3 жыл бұрын

Which makes it even weirder though. He goes straight from scratching out a random civilian's eyeballs to a lovestruck guy who suddenly wants to be good?!

@enzojose4001

3 жыл бұрын

Loki tried to kill a civilian just because he refused to knell before him, but now we need to believe he is just a misunderstood character?

@Didartie

3 жыл бұрын

@@enzojose4001 i mean, you probably wouldn't hesitate to kill a chicken for lunch or smth. loki has lived his life believing that mortals are a lesser life form and are no better than just that, worshippers

@oapilef9911

3 жыл бұрын

@@enzojose4001 he literally learned that the infinity stones are useless and he saw how he was meant to die. I would change to lol

@enzojose4001

3 жыл бұрын

@@Didartie I agree with your point. My problem is that they are changing the character you just described to make more money. The Loki from the first movies and currently Loki are completely different characters, and Loki never had an character arc to have such a big change in so little time.

The biggest mistake this show made was swapping out Loki and Mobius with the rushed romance between Loki and Sylvie for the majority of the show. Loki’s buddy cop chemistry with Mobius was so much more enjoyable than Loki and Sylvie’s selfcest.

@rockification

3 жыл бұрын

exactly

@legomyeggo7471

3 жыл бұрын

i don’t have as much of a problem with loki and sylvie as others do. i would’ve been fine with it if they stayed platonic but i don’t really care that they kissed but i have to agree. mobius and loki’s buddy cop relationship was worth exploring more in season 1 and it would’ve been enjoyable

@rougestarlight4308

3 жыл бұрын

I liked Loki and Sylvie

@rockification

3 жыл бұрын

@@legomyeggo7471 even if they weren’t the same person it would still be weird that they kissed because they legit just met

@ssophia6794

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLYY

This show's Loki is like if he had a drunk, bumbling uncle who pretends to be him. He doesn't feel like himself. :'(

"it didnt push an agenda, i didnt like it" dude this show is the best part of this phase of marvel.

i hated the forced romantic relationship between loki and sylvie and so many people have told me “it’s on brand it’s appropriate for him to fall in love with himself” but does anyone else think it might have been nice character development if he didn’t do that and it would’ve shown us that he is capable of love when it’s not loving himself

@trixxartarchive7705

3 жыл бұрын

Heck Mobius is right there

@banditbeth7687

3 жыл бұрын

Also the fact they fall in love within a day, just nah

@hope3290

3 жыл бұрын

I really don't understand why it had to be romantic love. Is platonic love just not enough? Wouldn't that make more sense for the self acceptance argument? The romance felt so forced, and I felt absolutely zero romantic connection between Loki and Sylvie. They acted more like bickering siblings. Speaking of siblings, it's weird how all the other Loki variants mention their own Thor except for Sylvie. Was this so they could push the romantic angle and steer people away from thinking about how they literally share the same family?

@melonlord4606

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think it would be a lot better if Loki and Sylvie's realtionship was not romantic but more platonic, like Steve and Robin in Stranger Things.

@avietop

3 жыл бұрын

People are saying 'Oh it makes sense for Loki to fall in love with himself since he's a narcissist' But that shows how those people missed his entire story - Loki isn't a narcissist, he acts high and mighty because he felt ostracized and abandoned his whole life, so to cover up his insecurities and pain, he lies and deceives and "cares only about himself and his goals".

loki felt so powerless, he got outclassed by nearly everyone and didnt have a single meaningful “hero” moment

@mayacollins3447

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly yeah

@Cauldron6

3 жыл бұрын

I felt like the finale where he admits he doesn’t want the throne and has a genuine moment of altruism with Sylvie was pretty heroic.

@DemigodoftheSea

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cauldron6 And then he instantly gets Juked by Sylvie.

@somerandominternetuser5730

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't that because he saw how his life ended so he just didn't care anymore, or am I interpreting that wrong

@Cauldron6

3 жыл бұрын

@@DemigodoftheSea doesn’t really matter; the fact that he did the right thing, the kind thing, without expecting a reward is the definition of heroism.

Personally, I’m so glad Taika didn’t direct the series, it’s pretty obvious (in my opinion) that he doesn’t like Loki as a character if you think about how he’s portrayed and treated in Ragnarok, sure the show might have been funnier, but I think that’s about all the improvement we would have gotten if Taika was the director

@ZyliceLiddell

3 ай бұрын

Well Taika wanted to see Tom get ‘pregnant by a horse’ and that ‘Loki said too many big worlds: blah, blah, blah. Go away space orphan.’ There was even an insulting and humiliating porta-potty scene!

@TurquoiseMusicWitch

3 ай бұрын

​To be fair, in mythology, he actually does get impregnated by a horse. Which means at least Taika did more research than the showrunners. ​@@ZyliceLiddell

Not so fun fact, the lead writer didn’t watch any of the Thor movies or avengers while writing the script. He only watched it a month before the show came out…

@joehan7205

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't watch them either but what the heck

@paulaunger3061

3 жыл бұрын

That would explain a lot...

@certifiednobody

3 жыл бұрын

Incredible that Loki ended up good despite that. Although, maybe it doesn't have that much of an impact so long as the director and other writers keep things consistent

@lilyttebayo8902

3 жыл бұрын

The writer was just being sarcastic on twitter, obviously he knew the character before writing the show but after seeing some people making comments about loki being out of character he made a joke. People not getting it just makes me question the opinions of the people who didn't liked the show even more

@Mica_T

3 жыл бұрын

Source? I highly doubt the executive producers would have given it the greenlight if the the writer was not familiar with the original films, or even given the writer the job.

Given Loki’s preferences, I see why the sword is called the Bi-frost.

@Piflle

3 жыл бұрын

bru 11/10 dad joke neither of my dads are that good

@caleboop1814

3 жыл бұрын

I’d want to tell you to get out but gosh this is so good

@miigi-p4939

3 жыл бұрын

Lets just wait that the chinese ver will be called straught-frost Sorry but i really am salty about loki being bi only been acknowledged in a 5 seconds line that Disney will just cut on china because captalism

@tati-games

3 жыл бұрын

loki is doesnt have a gender, “he” is a god which are not defined by human gender roles, “he” by lore gave birth to hera and a few other beings

@miigi-p4939

3 жыл бұрын

@@tati-games i mean he doesnt have sex but pretty sure they have a prefered gender

I'm surprised you haven't talked about the Miss Minutes jumpscare.

@thecoolesthana

3 жыл бұрын

HEY Y’ALL

@DavidSilverthorn

3 жыл бұрын

Those eyes still haunt me.

@fe6796

3 жыл бұрын

@@thecoolesthana scott here

5:39 I bet he regrets saying that after watching love and thunder

Season 2 pretty much fixed everything. The TVA gets to look cooler, Loki and Mobius have amazing banter and Loki's development is amazing. Hope you check it out one day! Doesn't even need to be a connection to the new stuff. It can just end as a self contained show after the finale.

For the Season finale, I think Jonathan Majors did an incredible job he sounded crazy and I loved it. Gotta be honest, the episode really didn’t feel like him talking for 30 minutes he’s just so interesting to watch

@Slender_Man_186

3 жыл бұрын

Holy s**t, the whole last episode was basically just him explaining everything, huh? It was very interesting, and about half way through I realized “f**k, he right, killing him is the worst thing they could do.”

@dallasjhaws

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he was CAPTIVATING, I thought it was an amazing finale

@lomalanni

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, his dialogue was great. However, his body language irked me immensely and I wanted to reach into my screen to slap his hand whenever he reached across his desk lol

@calvinjohnson6242

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing finale. Jonathan Majors made me forget that he was just exposition dumping

@fanpet3912

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree, while I agree he played his part very well I found the episode pretty boring regardless. It wasn't that bad, I was actually pretty invested, but it was still one of the most boring season finales I've ever seen. It would've been fine as a normal episode, just not a finale I think, personally

I don’t mean to make an argument, but I think it kinda makes sense that Loki wasn’t as smart throughout the show as he had just come from the battle of New York and didn’t have the same amount of experience as the Loki we know. Sure, Loki looked through his memories and saw what happened, but I don’t think he learned as much from that as his other Loki did. That’s just me though

@legomyeggo7471

3 жыл бұрын

i somewhat agree but his emotional and moral development over the course of 6 episodes doesn’t feel as natural and i wish he had a set goal like sylvie. nonetheless, i still really liked the show and unlike wandavision and tfatws, i was completely invested the entire time. i’d give it an 8/10

@joseanurkkalainen2832

3 жыл бұрын

@@legomyeggo7471 i agree, i kind of hoped that he'd have all the plans to betray sylvie, mobius and/or someone similar, but then at the end hesitate because only then he realises how much he's changed

@chungusamongus3584

3 жыл бұрын

@@legomyeggo7471 good point, I agree with the scoring

@bubbasbigblast8563

3 жыл бұрын

@@legomyeggo7471 He did have a set goal, taking over the TVA, but the show never bothers to explain *why* he wants to do that, so it doesn't work as a motive.

@nnoodl7333

3 жыл бұрын

I agree and also think that if you just figured out that everything in your life is meant to be set against you and you got to watch how you would die you wouldn’t be all there either.

I honestly hated the Loki series, mostly because they ruined his character in every way. He is suddenly bad at lying, he can’t do magic half the time, and although his goofiness can be fun, it gets replaced by a weird obsession by a version of himself with boobs and blonde hair. Why? Oh, because his entire character is now that he’s a NaRCiSsIsT. Wow, groundbreaking. They should’ve called the show Sylvie, because CLEARLY she becomes the main character from the moment she enters episode 2 near the end. I wanted to like her, but the weird flirting, the fact that I got the feeling that she really, truly, could not stand Loki in episode 3, and the fact that she gets to fail ONCE for a funny bit, and the rest of the time is just perfect, ruined any chance of me liking her. Not thanks! I really thought this show was just going to be a fun, light-hearted buddy-cop style series with two dudes trying to fix the timeline, based on the trailers, but nope. Everything has to feed into the lore and MCU universe and can’t just be simple fun. Whatever.

@aimanmarzuqi4804

3 жыл бұрын

Finally, I thought I was the only one who thought this way, this show was disappointing for me

@aimanmarzuqi4804

3 жыл бұрын

Although I did like the fact that we get to see a glimpse of Kang in the final episode. I know He Who Remains is not actually Kang, but still it was quite the teaser

@reneerodriguez7368

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I really thought Loki would eventually team up with Mobius and try to capture other Loki variants (not just Slyvie), but Slyvie maybe running into them trying to set the imprisoned Loki variants free to help her destroy the Timekeepers. I thought there was going to be more of Hunter B-15 going awol to learn more about the truth of the TVA as well. And Ravonna Renslayer being sidetracked trying to track her down to prevent her from doing so. Then everyone coming together at the same time to realize that the TimeKeepers weren't even real the whole time. Idk. Would've been more interesting imo.

@dylsaster

2 жыл бұрын

you couldn't explain it better

@777holy67

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

I loved the show, but it had two flaws One: Mobius didn’t get his jet ski Two: Owen Wilson didn’t say ka chow.

The shows music is criminally underrated

@rickkmarks3488

3 жыл бұрын

Natalie Holt's score really elevated the show

@Savataric

3 жыл бұрын

The music in Loki is GOD TIER

@ellielovegood6307

3 жыл бұрын

The score slapped

@giorgimamalashvili4220

3 жыл бұрын

The score is one of the best I've ever heard in any MCU media.

@glitchm.c.9931

3 жыл бұрын

The main problem I really have with Marvel scores is that there just kinda forgettable (with a few obvious exceptions). Loki for me really fixed this issue

I thought him getting drunk made more than enough sense after seeing how pointless his life has been.

@nicegoatdoctor8224

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Sp_Oon

3 жыл бұрын

Also the song Loki sang was brilliant.

@GabiHannah1

3 жыл бұрын

yesss

@marshmallowvampire8503

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I perceived as him actually being fun and having fun unlike this other overly serious, bland girl Loki.

@Capta1nTD

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think Loki's need for attention and validation from others made perfect sense after all of the harsh failures and realities he's been forced to accept. He said it himself he's a narcissist. But he's also someone who's felt outcasted his entire life, and has all his endeavors blow up in his face. So he needed to feel validated, he wanted to be acknowledged. Fits his character arc perfectly imo.

I was frustrated that they seemed to completely forget that Loki was an ice giant

Gotta review season 2 now bc honestly, its absolutely phenomenal. One of yhe best shows, or any good show in general, to ever come outta marvel.

Personally, I really liked the aesthetic of the TVA. When people try to portray the future or something above time they usually go with white, washed out, minimalism. It's boring and doesn't tell us much about the place. The TVA design was vintage 60s. They used physical books, files, and paper that covered their desks instead of the regular overused holographic future-tech. I like the muted oranges, browns, and reds. It gave the place both a homely but mysterious feel to it

i disagree with you about the third episode. after seeing his own death, learning that he is meant to die no matter what happens, and accidentaly trapping himself in a planet on the middle of a apocalypse with a apparent better version of him from another universe that happens to be a murderer and keeps pushing him down, its understandable to loki be kinda tired and have a mini breakdown specially because hes probably bored. also hes loki he likes to show himself. the show in general was good to me. it has a lot of flaws, but it was a pretty fun ride. the last episode was mainly setup, yes, but it also was a pretty good answer of what happened in the series

Honestly for me episode 1 and 2 were my favorite. I really liked the buddy cop aspect. For me the show went down hill the moment Loki followed Sylvie into her portal in the supermarket

Tin foil hat time: Marvel ending every show with a 90% dialogue episode rather than something cool is a direct result of the last 10 years of everyone complaining, “oh marvel movies always end with a big CGI fight.” Loki was _good_ and it had _great_ episodes. But it could have been better,

Honestly I feel like this show would've benefited from being a 20 episode season, with each episode being 20-30 minutes. That way they could actually have time to flesh everything out without it feeling rushed, which is probably the biggest sin the show commits. I'm not asking for Doctor Who, but just for something more than exposition. Also I feel like Loki himself is being written as his post-Ragnarok self instead of his 2012 version, so he's less conniving and bitchy than back then. I really like this show, it just should've been given more time to establish itself.

@saamqri2507

3 жыл бұрын

i feel like that would've caused the show to drag even more. also, season 1 was meant to be 12 episodes originally but they halved it due to corona. so maybe s2 will compensate

@liviniarose5

3 жыл бұрын

@@saamqri2507 Hopefully, it could've dragged but I'll take more time to develop characters than a rushed snappy mess that never lets the viewer breath, which seems to be Marvel's production model as of late

@chumuheha

3 жыл бұрын

@@saamqri2507 uhh no absolutely not. There was way too much ground to cover to drag it out over like six months.

@ValerieSparrowW

3 жыл бұрын

@@saamqri2507 you have a source? :))

@MessyGamer616

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I don't think loki as a character had THAT much growth over his arc beforehand in the mcu. Prior to ragnarok, all we saw of him were situations where he had control or understanding of the variables around him, and was able to operate as more of a mastermind, with goals that came into conflict with our heroes. The dude has been living for over a millennia at this point, and its almost MORE unbelievable to think that his brother and father would still hold him in such high regards, and keep him in such trusted positions if he'd been 'evil' prior to that.. in ragnarok, he has different priorities, he's more focused on the survival of his race, after having had his fill of ruling. His brother treats what he did, besides when he thought loki accidentally killed odin, as little more than a squabble. before this show we never really saw what loki was like in a more casual setting, or when he's trying to figure out whats going on around him, with the closest moment having been in ragnarok, so it kinda tracks that thats what he's most similar to, when considering them less by a human view of time and growth and closer to a near-immortals.

Don’t be mad but I was like “wait I swear he liked this show” and then realised I got you and Cosmonaut Variety Hour confused because you’re both youtube reviewers who watch cartoons and films and have unique opinions.

@oopsitslipped9152

3 жыл бұрын

It's cosmonaut variety hour not cosmonaut quickie🤓

@nathangreen4539

3 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same thing happen to me

@FullScreenTV_

3 жыл бұрын

Literally thought the same shit lol

@FullScreenTV_

3 жыл бұрын

You’re way better than cosmonaut tbh.

@MikeTheNBAGuy

3 жыл бұрын

With Chris Stuckman retiring they're the two best reviewers on KZread

I kind of wish Mobius was there more while Sylvie stayed as a villain. I feel like that was the set up anyways.

watch Loki Season 2. it's so much more about the characters, and it's so good

Honestly it should’ve been Loki and Mobius trying to find Sylvie while accidentally figuring out who’s behind the TVA. And scrap the Loki x Sylvie plotline, they should’ve had a more sibling bond.

@carlotta4th

3 жыл бұрын

I actually think Loki only falling for an alternate dimension version of himself kind of fits his character though. He is a narcissist, he thinks everyone is beneath him. He did it WAY TOO FAST but the concept itself I do like.

@rockification

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlotta4th “it’s super in character” okay…. it’s still weird like they could’ve left out the romance between two characters who literally share the same parents

@coolhubbeats753

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree with the Loki x Sylvie plotline

@arambles1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and instead Loki should’ve kissed mobius

@materla4102

3 жыл бұрын

Mobius and Loki had such a great chemistry I wish the whole show was a strange timey wimey space cop duo, constantly trying to outsmart each other and somehow figuring out the TVA. If they just left out Sylvie completely that would be so great, at least for me. I couldn't stand her and the whole relationship. Especially the way they dumb down Loki for her to seem better.

Correct, it does exist

@ThePorcelainMoth

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes it does

@jacksonchastain7746

3 жыл бұрын

Are you sure?

@Test-qe7up

3 жыл бұрын

No

@fun-epersonnproductions4002

3 жыл бұрын

I can agree with the fact that Loki exists.

1:47 It is worth pointing out that this isn’t our Loki. The Loki who we watched through the movies is dead and in another timeline. This Loki is a different version, which CAN explain some of his stupidities… but even then that’s stretching it just a little bit

I really liked the show but i was really mad that they did the whole scheme of that the villain is really strong but when he is on the good side that he is 200% nerfed, like i hoped at the end loki would trick everyone, that is something i expected, but no he wasn't at all. The thing i was most exciting for, was that Loki was being Loki, but it was about the TVA and loki being not Loki

I agree that this show really nerfed Loki down. I was really excited to see his "Avengers" villian self back but it didn't happen. But this show was easily one of the best MCU projects for me. The music especially was just so so sooo good. Acting was really cool and diverse in MCU terms and even though it was a setup, I was more satisfied by the ending than previous shows.

@shawerful5209

3 жыл бұрын

Loki was powerfull in avengers because of the mind gem, and he uses more powers in this show than he entires apperances on MCU

@adityavardhanjain

3 жыл бұрын

@@shawerful5209 I meant character wise... Personally, I like Loki when he's an asshole. And he was not totally an asshole in this show. In fact, he got soft as fuck with Sylvie. That was cute... But like, not Loki.

@TheBlarggle

3 жыл бұрын

@@adityavardhanjain The **ENTIRE** point of the show was him coming to terms with realizing that he didn't HAVE to be an asshole and he could work in service to his better nature. He's not even the same Loki who you know and love as an "asshole". That Loki got murdered by Thanos. This is, for all intents and purposes, a different person.

@moonlightrider24

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

I feel like the reason why Loki just doesn't seem a whole lot like Loki in this show is that after episode one he is having a crisis of character the entire time. Constantly having his preconceived notions challenged, constantly having his schemes unraveled at the first snip by Mobius who has seen it all a thousand times a thousand different ways.

@sunshineeee

3 жыл бұрын

The issue with that though, is that Marvel had no idea how to keep that tone and actively tell the audience that’s what was happening. They should be telling us(through subtleties in the show) that he’s in crisis, that he’s been through like 5 paradigm shifts by now, but instead they give him a mental breakdown while holding him to the standard of what Loki was in Ragnarok. The show tells us we are looking at and watching a Loki that hasn’t changed at all, while literally changing him entirely as more scenes pass. I think if it was written better it would’ve been way clearer and more of a satisfying character study.

@user-rz5yk5sr7t

3 жыл бұрын

@@sunshineeee I think you are wrong, it was very much a show dont tell as alot of people have the same complaint as "this loki just doesnt feel like avengers loki" yeah his character is in crisis, thats how cahracter crisis work, thats how good character crisis are made. Loki is thrown through a loop. his perspective being forced to change constantly throughout the show. to say marvel lacks the writing to handle this is pretty dumb considering that they are successfully doing it right now.

@carrot6964

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought I mean getting drunk always means "I want to forget everything"

@Bennieboy918

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-rz5yk5sr7t they literally just rushed his character to what he was in ragnarok, crisis or not thats just lazy and uninteresting

@user-rz5yk5sr7t

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bennieboy918 if you think Loki and Ragnarok and Loki in the show are the same character I don't think you should have an opinion on criticizing anything.

hated what they did to Loki’s character and I hated how the writers came up with “oh yeah he’s gonna date himself.” Everyone in the entire show was just like yeah, that’s weird. They have the same mother and it’s basically is selfcest, so I don’t get why they thought that was a good idea. I have an idea don’t have an love interest or have one that isn’t related towards him in anyway. It’s disturbing and unnecessary. Also before they kissed, Loki was literally ignoring the fact that they’re the same person and that she could feel the exact same things as him because they’re the same person. Then they kissed 🤢

@TurquoiseMusicWitch

Жыл бұрын

They literally just got rid of Loki all together. Stripping him of his entire character is supposed to be ' growth' . 🙃

The TVA offices look exactly like they should. There's a reason Control is one of the most aesthetic video games in years. That aesthetic builds on an ominous feel.