Lockdown.. one of the most incredible spells, when used in the right situation.. I'd love to see it used more, especially against carriers.

@greenwave819

Жыл бұрын

only the wildest of wild men can lockdown carriers the way we currently imagine. the future is gonna be nuts tho

I’m certain sSak had it out for that vulture he locked down at 18:50 . As a leader, sometimes you just get tired of vulture attitude and passive aggressive insubordination.

@FalconPaladin

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha! :D

I liked when you called it a “recola!” 😂

What a great game to watch! It was great for both players. Especially the great use of storms, lockdowns and even some dark templars. Very great in balance for both players. This game deserved an epic tag! Even the drop ship played wasn’t successful in the first 10 mins but they came in a great attack in 16:55 which was really gutsy. I enjoyed watching it. Thanks Falcon for the effort for casting this game!

29:52 oh no you missed the goliath finishing off the arbiter! you can see it on the minimap lol

@serioussilliness2064

Жыл бұрын

O.o

@medivh1272

6 ай бұрын

He misses a lot of stuff lol

Been catching up on your videos the last few days. Thanks for the casts

@FalconPaladin

Жыл бұрын

No problem! 👍

Huge respect to sSak to trying new things. Great game from him as well, in his unique "turtle" style.

@badejushi

Жыл бұрын

He might become a much better player soon.

I can't recall ever seeing lock down being really useful, but it worked quite well here. Terran was mining off 4 bases, and at that point protoss just needs A LOT of bases.

@Ziegfried82

Жыл бұрын

It's one of the strongest abilities vs protoss, can shut down shuttle/reaver, arbiter, and carrier. Very hard to target speed shuttles though...it's more to handle the air.

I still haven't heard a good reason as to why lockdown is so rarely used. Most underrated spell by far in my opinion.

@513pollo

Жыл бұрын

Lockdown is super micro intensive. You saw what sSak did at 18:50 ?

@user-ch2kt8mz4b

Жыл бұрын

In few words - super attention and micro-intensive (especially for mid/lowAPM Terran players, which is all Terran players except Flash kappa), hard to target properly when its only 2-5 seconds before recall and also cost a lot of moneys (especially Gas for Ghosts, they are expensive as hell for they very low ulility in SC1 BW) for Ghost production and LD research itself And its even harder to micro and controll LD than EMP bcs EMP is splash and LD is target spell

@Zatzzo

Жыл бұрын

wouldn't it be really easy to put lockdown on carriers given their size and low speed?

@513pollo

Жыл бұрын

In theory, yes. In practice, the carriers kite back and forth over high ground, picking off units at will while the Terran desperately micros each ghost. Protoss units supporting the carriers like zealots and dragoons further complicate lockdown attempts.

@Zatzzo

Жыл бұрын

@@513pollo makes sense but the same thing could be said about any other ground unit trying to shoot at carriers. i'm not sure i get it.

I couldn't imagine there is a Terran player using lockdown and beat one of most fearful Protoss player like Snow. Also this Eclipse map seems to be a little bit different than I play on ladder last year. There was no non-gas 3rd base between main base and 9 o'clock base. The path and choke point also seems to be narrower, which bring Terran more defensive advantage. Anw, thank you for the great game cast FP !!!

‘Vulnerable to death’ is my next favourite wording.

10:05 that drop got shut down HARD

really fun lockdown usage here

Had an idea for a protoss intro variation. Archon saying "the purging is complete" and/or "power overwhelming"

@FalconPaladin

Ай бұрын

Hmm I'll give it a try!

Fubuki once said that she thinks the cutest thing about her is her ears! Nice to see Ghosts, they were a top pick in my head for rarest unit in a pro BW match. It felt for a bit like even the odd accidental Scout or a maybe one that was made to counter a group of Guardians was more common than a Ghost.

Lockdowns against arbiters and drops ! finally !! man, what an incredibly enjoyable game for a terran fan !

Wow a new version of Eclipse that addresses the huge open space Terran have to cover to take the third base. I almost wonder if they overdid it? They actually put an extra mineral-only base there?

I feel like I watch so much Falcon Paladin SC...I lose track of the significance of Snow! Ha. God Bless

Terran is not a race with a lot of tricks up its sleeves. Cloaked wraiths maybe? Idk.. They are a race of "my gun is bigger than your gun" However the spellcasting at 26:40 was awesome and won the game if it wasn't won already.

18:51 a hit and a miss is only 1 click away from each other.

What a game ! :O

2:10 Bob the Zealot tee? I feel like in Starcraft, the Zealot is the hardest to depict. Second place is the Zergling. When in doubt, go for the wireframe portrait, otherwise, the Zealot's proportions have to be alien-like. Long and huge forearms. Broad shoulders and booming chest armor. Skinny arms, slim midsection. The SC2 protoss proportions are all wrong - too buff and their bodies look more Warcraft draenei. 2:52 No their knees do not bend the opposite direction. Read up on digitigrade legs. They tip toe.

First time seeing this version of Eclipse. Interesting changes.

@jacktopia

Жыл бұрын

Even tho Ssak won this game it seems like Ghosts against Arbiters force the T into too much of a defensive position… ghosts are not maneuverable enough to provide dynamic play. GG by Ssak tho and GG overall

Valiant effort but those lockdowns

Wish I could play like this haha

@FalconPaladin

Жыл бұрын

Don't we all? :D

Badass sSak!!!

Someone knows if Flash have a Twitch?

As I always mention, lockdown 🔒 is always not a bad idea !! Even when terran facing tons of carriers …lockdown is the answer…

Appreciate you man!!

17:23 wow i actually thought high templars don't trigger spider mines. Don't they float?

How did the scarab not explode any probes at 10?

gg wp)

For the algorithm

I love Snow, the villain !!!

am i high when did they add the minerals only to eclipse?

@RJB_TV

Жыл бұрын

this was the first version of eclipse. they later removed the minerals only ;p

WOW LOCKDOWN!

I can confirm...lockdowns are annoying

Ahaha 32:40 i love your voices

0:48 game from the 1998? Broodwar didn’t even come out until Dec 1998.

LockDowns have same problem as EMP has - super micro-intensive, even more than EMP in fact bcs EMP is splash spell and LD is target spell (as you can see with first LockDown when Ghost LD Vulture instead of Arbiter (missclick)) The best and also not microintensive tactic is what we saw 2 or 3 games before - minefileds on recall spots with missile turrets support to force Arbiter to recall right on border spot where minefield is Dont know why Terrans do that so seldom but its the most effective and also not allow micri at all (land mine and forget about it, refresh after recall) 99% of minefields in pro-games clearing by Observer + Dragoons anyway so its almost a waste of mines like 99% of time to land them in the middle of nowhere, sure they slow down Protoss rotation a little bit and force to using a little bit more mirco for Protoss to clear them up, but you know - 10 mines do same thing (also Protoss never knows - 1-3 mines here, or 10-30), and the rest of them can be easy be placed on main and expansion on recall spots with great effectiveness. "What about friendly splash killing SCVs on mineral line and 2-3 defensive tanks" They all are dead any way when 10-20 Dragoons and 10-20 Zealots teleporting right on them, mines at least killing and SCVs and enemies, and if ComandCenter live you can replace SCV faster than if CC dies (and it will if 10-20 Dragoons shoting on it) IMO minefields on expansions and main base are the best way to deal with recalls especially for lowAPM Terran players (and this is all Terran players except Flash kappa) Hoping Terrans would do that tactic more frequently, both effective and pleasing to watch when 30-40 units recall just vapirizing right after teleport

@Ziegfried82

Жыл бұрын

Lockdown is vastly superior to EMP though if you know the protoss is going multiple arbiters. Ghosts are way cheaper to make than vessels, can have 3 ghosts for every vessel. That's 6 lockdowns for the same gas as 2 EMPs. Lockdown you click on the arbiter and it tracks...it can't miss like EMP. To say lockdown is harder to use than EMP is false..try hitting a moving arbiter with EMP sometime and you'll see what I mean it's something even the pros mess up on regularly. Both moves are very micro intensive but I would certainly favor lockdown. The main reason you don't see it much is it costs a lot of time and gas to get it set up initially. An extra bonus is when the toss mixes in 6 carriers you have a hard counter ready to go.

What happened to Purple Vulture? I'll buy one of those shirts!

LOCKDOWN... Okay when you are pretty sure you're going to win this match...

Never underestimate a korean, even if you are korean!

Dude, did you see on Artosis's channel that Jaedong, Bisu, AND my main man STORK ALL qualified for ASL 15? Please Veterans are fixing to show the new kids on the block thing or two about a thing or two I think.

Posting this comment until falconpaladin upload a recent game where pro's use infested terrans 😂 😂 (Already watched the one you uploaded that match 6 years ago😂)

@FalconPaladin

4 ай бұрын

Tough to find :)

10:01 ? No scarab splash damage to probes?

@BinhThuongThoi112

Жыл бұрын

no... scarab don't deal splash damage to friendly unit like siege tank shock cannon.

sSak was a beasttt this game

that didn't look like Snow

ladder was slow speed only, so even if you were playing a legit player the match would take a long long time. you made the right choice. c0ke was a bot.

@FalconPaladin

Жыл бұрын

Seriously??? It was slow speed only in 2001? That's crazy!

@-Nick-T

Жыл бұрын

@@FalconPaladin i played ladder in 98 on original. for 5 seasons, if i remember right. i only played a few matches a day or so. back then the speed selection was blocked out. i think scbw introduced normal speed as blocked out when gateways for different regions were added. in original sc you could play with anyone across the world. it was an amazing game for the concept.... you couldnt actually play with anyone as the game would simply disconnect.

Go owls

Ohh knowing it’s Snow’s Arbiter getting locked down, I already imagine how he reacted🤩 After watching the game, Snow definitely was less aggressive than usual but Sak was everywhere!

horrible strategy from P

This isnt the original Eclipse. I know the original was heavily protoss favored.

@RJB_TV

Жыл бұрын

this is the beta version of eclipse. It saw a bunch of changes not much later.