Longer than my usual videos but there was A LOT to to discuss. I hope you appreciate the details and that it gives some insight into a decision if you're in the market for a PHEV.

@sythe511

10 ай бұрын

I have to say, I'm honestly surprised that Mitsubishi is still selling cars with an MSRP over $40k. The auto side of their business has never made up a large portion of the company and it seems like it's even less these days. I thought they were just making compact SUVs/more budget oriented cars now

@VolvoSaabFanatic245

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for telling us.

This is probably the most intelligent and insightful review I've ever seen on this vehicle. I bought one 2 months ago and absolutely love it. Please allow me to mention a couple of other features that were not mentioned in the video. It has two 1500 watt AC outlets 1 in the middle row and one in the back, it has a kick liftgate, it has a very cool heads up display that you could see on your windshield in the video, it's all-wheel drive, it has double pane glass to keep the cabin quiet, and it charges in 6 hours on level 2. It is an absolutely fantastic vehicle!

@Wynner3

5 ай бұрын

That's fantastic. More and more places I go hiking these days are difficult to get to in my Audi S5 because of mud, off-road trails, and other issues. I want a PHEV and I think I might go with a an Outlander PHEV. I also live about 6 miles from work so EV mode would be more than enough range during the week.

Work at a dealer with a small Mitsubishi satellite store and I was SHOCKED when I first got into an outlander. Interior is wayyyy nicer than you’d think and our mechanics say it’s the vehicle they see the least problems in

@ady007pl

9 ай бұрын

coz basically it's a Renault :D

@441meatloaf

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately doesnt matter how "nice" it is, mitsubishi as a automotive brand turned to garbage by their own hands of making excessively poor manaement decision. Doesn't matter how well mitsubishi can make the outlander they won't be able to sell much due to their tarnished brand.

@adamcoe

8 ай бұрын

except for the fact that they've been selling boatloads of these things in europe and asia for years...and also, if a brand can't redeem itself with a legitimately good product, how pray tell would they go about doing it?@@441meatloaf

@khelgarironfist3301

8 ай бұрын

@@441meatloaf how they butchered my boy lancer evo

@Karl-Benny

8 ай бұрын

No its floor pan is the same that`s it@@ady007pl

People love to hate on Mitsubishi but I can't help but root for them. Especially when they actually seem to be trying to release some quality cars.

@DzasterNL

10 ай бұрын

They all think the Germans are perfect😂😂 had so many problems with my audi.. Now I have a 2.0 outlander phev from 2016, the highest level trim. Many options and getting me from A to B without problems and fearly cheap. The negative people never woned one.. they only care for their theoretical numbers.. 0 to 60 in 3 seconds... My father bought a 2019 mclaren 540c, people hating on it but everyone wants to make pictures and drive in it... dubbele standards..

@bartosztomasz

10 ай бұрын

Mitsubishi surely is better than German cars but they betrayed the customer base by ditching sedans. Where's Lancer? Where's Galant? Only SUVs to satisfy US market and Crossovers for the deplorable Europeans.

@Teddingtin

10 ай бұрын

@@bartosztomasz The Mirage is still kicking, somehow.

@DzasterNL

10 ай бұрын

@@bartosztomasz I think they can't compete anymore I guess.. they did a great job with the outlander and especially here in the Netherlands you see them around every corner.. That says something.. I think people would go for a Alfa romeo giulia instead of a Lancer for example.. Audi's rule the world with business cars on a lease company. Easy for anyone to say when their costs are covered..

@DzasterNL

10 ай бұрын

@@hassyg4083 look at the price... mitsubishi has alot of car for the money...

Thanks for the review! -- I bought my 2023 Outlander PHEV (SEL Premium) 4 months ago - local dealer (Columbus, Ohio - USA) had 7 Outlander PHEVs on the lot. They now have 11 on the lot with great sales deals. I got mine for $1,200 UNDER MSRP and the dealer gave me $31,500 for my 2018 Acura TLX -- I paid $18,000 plus tax for the Outlander. I have driven 4,356 miles - have used 32 gallons of gas total. I am plugging it in every night for my daily commute and weekend errands. I have taken 2 road trips of 300 miles round trip each; got 37 “mpg” using “Normal” hybrid mode for these trips. It feels "luxurious" inside -- premium leather, panoramic roof, 360 camera, power folding side mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated front AND rear seats, hands-free tailgate, head up display, Bose speakers AND massaging front seats! If I take a longer drive, I will have no "range anxiety." Plus, the Outlander has a 10-YEAR WARRANTY. ONE BIG NOTE: the owner's manual clearly states that the 3rd row is ONLY for people under 5' 3." I do not need a 3rd row, so I "tri-fold" it. This opens up a HUGE, DEEP storage well. And, I can stack duffel bag items on the folded 3rd row! The RAV4 Prime may have better overall mpg, but the 18-month wait and $12,000 "dealer adjustment" are outrageous. One local dealer wanted $65k for loaded Prime with MSRP of $52k. I did not consider Kia or Hyundai brands -- "Kia boys" have stolen 3,000 of them in my area (and assaulted drivers in the process). This is a real issue. Lastly, my home solar panels were installed 2 months ago. I got a level 2 charger in my garage 3 weeks ago. The Outlander PHEV is the PERFECT choice for me in 2023 --- availability, luxury, value and price -- a great vehicle to "step into" electrification!

@richardneedles

10 ай бұрын

@3waystopcock Maybe Nissan since they are joint platforms now. The local dealer has both brands under one location. Fingers crossed!

@simonwood5587

8 ай бұрын

The prime win for me. This was second best….. but EV range doesn’t compare. Getting over 90km on the prime. Also would be wary Mitsubishi vanishing from North America

@richardneedles

8 ай бұрын

@@simonwood5587 What did you pay for the prime?

@simonwood5587

8 ай бұрын

@@richardneedles I’m in Ontario Canada. Don’t think dealers allowed to gauge big mark ups here. Paid mrsp minus $5k from government. Around $50k can out the door….. had to wait around 17 months for order to show up though…..

@richardneedles

8 ай бұрын

@simonwood5587 Thanks. Rav4 Prime would be a great choice but dealers in the U.S. are charging $65,000 (U.S. dollars). Could not make that math work, so Outlander was perfect for me. Now, in month 9. Very happy with my choice.

This video opened my eyes to this car. I’ve been thinking about getting a PHEV as a daily and this seems to fit my needs very well. Chargers at office ✅ Short commute ✅ Desire for cargo space ✅ Takes multiple long road trips per year ✅ Only thing I didn’t hear about was a heated steering wheel and I’d like cooled seats for the summers which this doesn’t have .

As a 2018 Outlander PHEV Owner I highly recommend the new Oulander PHEV. The only comprimise over the RAV4 is the ride quality - but only slightly. Even if they were the same price Outlander is much more reliable - Mitsubishi is one of the biggest companies in Japan and Globally (top 10) for many decades. Sound system is also better in the outlander too.

The inside of this car is a perfect mixed of analog and digital I love it so much!!

I can honestly say, I dig the new Outlander. I looked at one at the Mitsubishi dealer in town, and for what it is and how I remember Mitsubishi as a kid, they’re dang nice. I’d love to see the new Triton come here to the states

Just got a new 2023 outlander at the dealership with 8k in rebates!! Toyota dealerships don't even have Rav4 Primes available in my area... you gotta order it and pay the dealer like an extra 5k in commissions. The 2023 outlander feels like a luxury vehicle on the interior... it has so many lux add ons. I'm obsessed!

@sdt532000

5 ай бұрын

Is it EV model?What trim did you have? Enjoy your new ride...

@m8trxd

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I got the PHEV... not sure what trim level but it has the power sunroof and the fantastic leather grey interior. I love her!@@sdt532000

I am a 2023 sel touring mitsubishi outlander owner. The only thing that makes Rav better is more power.. apart from that, mitsubishi outlander is the best in all,comparing interiors, exteriors, features and comfortability.

Love the format... thanks for the detailed info.

You realise you're not getting full power in Normal Mode? Put it in Tarmac or Power and you get the full output - it transforms the car. The power and traction you have coming out of corners is almost frightening.

It's amazing to me that the same company that made the Mirage also makes this

Great video Tedward! You cover so much in these videos. I really like the rear design and interior of this car so much. I saw the X3 in the background which I’m curious about whether that is Tedward’s favourite daily suv🧐🧐😀

Enjoyed your video. And yes the people at Mitsubishi are very nice. I bought a Mirage 3 months ago & I love it.

Great video. Are we going to get any more therapy drives? I really love those!

My friend has this and I went in his car before and I have to say it’s so spacious in the back and front and very well designed

Wow...that interior looks fantastic.

Just a note I saw in a review I want to add, the recharge mode is pretty efficient, it will use about 3L to charge the battery from empty to full in about 40-50 minutes. This has the potential to really help your fuel economy if you dont have the possibility to charge it while on a road trip, getting half the battery charge for 1.5L at 1.70$ a L will be better than using the gas engine with a depleted battery at 9L / 100km ( based on the 61 km with a full battery) since this come up at 6.6L / 100km

@adamcoe

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I've really been wondering if there's some kind of sweet spot if you're rolling on the highway where charging the battery (at least to a certain point) would be sort of worth the gas you spent. Especially as you say, charging a battery half full vs just running the gas engine on a dead battery.

@Vithigar

8 ай бұрын

@@adamcoe It depends on the driving that you're planning to do. The battery will do a lot better at low speeds and in stop and go city traffic, while the gas engine will do better on the highway. The "sweet spot", in my experience so far, is to use charge mode while on the highway if the battery is low and you won't get a chance to plug in before some upcoming city driving. (Or "save" mode if you have some battery left but want to conserve it for same)

@JayRay61

6 ай бұрын

I'd be hitting the battery charge mode when heading down long grades etc. Think that would be optimum. ???

@Vithigar

6 ай бұрын

@@JayRay61 if you going down a long grade it's going to recharge anyway from the regen braking. A long enough hill and you could ostensibly charge from 0 to a full battery without ever changing modes.

You can alter the "feel" of the brake pedal by changing regenerative braking setting, B0 to B5.

Thanks, Ted, for this interesting and engaging clip. Thanks for putting it up for viewing. Australia doesn't get the RAV-4 Prime, so our decision is relatively easy. Just watching and listening to your words, it seemed to me that the Outlander has a degree of charm or likeability that the RAV-4 misses-out on. I drove an Outlander over the weekend and the recurring thought was "this is _really_ nice!" I ask - if you have the time to provide further information, what would its acceleration times be like from say, 50 to 80 mph. This is a common overtaking speed (despite being solidly illegal in much of the country) for me. I have some information that indicates above around 70-ish acceleration slows dramatically.

I think the point of dealer markups is very important when looking at these vehicles nowadays. I was looking to purchase a Toyota recently and i couldn’t find a dealer that didn’t want unneeded mark ups on the vehicle I was looking at and I had to go for another option from a different company. MSRP seems to no longer matter to many dealers unfortunately.

@mjkarger89

10 ай бұрын

100%. I was in the market for a car the past couple months. I gave up on getting a RAV4 after every dealer I contacted was marking up 7-10K.

@swipezios3273

10 ай бұрын

Get on the no mark up Toyota group! Cars posted everyday at msrp

Very nice reviews.

Appreciate the comprehensive review! Only sat in the Outlander, I couldn't manspread and my leg was at an odd angle to get to the gas pedal, so it was a no-go for me and I left disappointed as I really like the look of it.

I love this car I wish I had it, still learning how to drive my dad's Mercedes ML 320

Nice video!

I hope you have tried the tarmac mode of this car in order to fully experience the handling capability of the outlander.

Nice review & thanks for the details ... though there are few things I felt could have been different or included. 1) Under the hood NISSAN is wrong statement only thing Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance worked together is tech but the actual powertrain, s-awc and engine of Outlander PHEV is completely owned by Mitsubishi. 2) Not sure if you have driven with B0 it does works in different altogether you can coast at same speed on a flat roads. In this mode you will see brakes/regen work bit different feel. 3) Its not CVT engine just a single speed motor doesnt have any variable transmission, most of the times engine acts as generator and in hybrid mode at higher speeds it may connects to front wheel to assist 4) Official MPG number are way vague numbers than in reality , I consistently got 5.4 to 6.6L/100 i.e. 42 to 35MPG on highways speed on the other hand EV mode I am getting 80 to 100KM range. Even on ChaDemo with 30 mins charge i get 66KM range which at 75% battery. 5) Last but not least Top selling SUV PHEV in the world with IIHS Top Safety Pick+

I would definitely have this over a RAV4- what it doesn't offer in range and performance it makes up for with luxury and style, and it offers significantly nicer trimmings than the RAV4 at a similar price point.

The eclipse , Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution, Lancer Evolution and the 3000 GT were amazing cars from Mitsubishi

Great review. I actually get nearer 100km ev range, I think Mitsi has been very (pleasingly) conservative with its range estimate. I have zero regrets with my 2023 outlander phev

@tmo4330

3 ай бұрын

How is it doing now? What electric range do you get before the gas kicks in?

I bought my SEL 2023 for $44K, when Toyoya wanted $50+ for regular RAV4 which I hated. Prime was probably around $60K+, with no test drive and long wait.

We got a mid-tier trim outlander (2021 model?) as a rental a little while back. I had forgotten Mitsubishi even made cars anymore. It was fairly capable and somewhat comfortable, but was hilariously slow. Putting the CVT in "sport" mode just meant it would sit at 5k RPM for 15 seconds straight trying to get to 60mph. It was probably because that trim level was just underpowered or didn't have a hybrid assist motor. The sport trim at the time only had 168hp with the 2.4L. No wonder it was a slug

@Aerodynamicz1

10 ай бұрын

Is the Mitsubishi cvt also made by jatco? I'm assuming this one has a different transmission though

@sythe511

10 ай бұрын

​@@Aerodynamicz1no clue. Just sharing my recent experience with one. It was one of the few times I actually almost felt bad punching the gas. Poor little guy was doing his best screaming just to get me across a dangerous intersection

@rapide12345

10 ай бұрын

​​​​@@Aerodynamicz1Mitsubishi has been using JATCO CVT's for years now, in fact, all the cars in their lineup that has a CVT is using a JATCO CVT, from the Lancer, Lancer Sportback, Mirage, Mirage G4 I mean every car in their lineup that has a CVT is using a JATCO unit, for the PHEV, it has a Single Speed Transaxle GKN Multi Mode E-Transmission.

@MrRaitzi

10 ай бұрын

This phev is great until 60mph. Then acceleration dies. Not zippy like electric car on high speeds.

@adamcoe

8 ай бұрын

It's not a CVT, it's a single gear transaxle

I have a 2022 Outlander Sport GT, I wish it came with this style of steering wheel. The wider variant steering wheel would’ve been ideal, More grip and confidence.

I'm kinda glad to see this is pretty decent. Was a huge fan of them when I was younger, but obviously they're a lot different than they were even in the 2000s and I tend to give them shit due to how boring they are now. Since they're a "smaller" company (still Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, they're doing fine overall), I like seeing that they can hold up to a giant like Toyota.

Also, you can use the down flappy paddle to increase the braking. If you want to maximise your fuel economy, you should use the down flappy paddle, instead of the brake pedal, except when you want to come to a complete stop, shouldn't you???

nice explanation

Glad you mentioned how one of them is impossible to get and the other is easy + has an extra row. I also found it to be listed for 20% cheaper than the rav with a lot of the rav top features on the base model, so its not apples to apples. But I guess things have changed. mine charges off a wall outlet in 8 hours. Idk what's going on with your wall outlets. Also every model has the Chadmo charger, even the lowest model. Unless they stopped that? You under electric only launch seemed really slow for some reason. I reach 80kmph is almost no time at all in normal mode. If you drive with no charge it gets 6.5L/100km Charge mode and save mode forcibly connects the engine to the road on the highway, which is more efficient. Your car is built differently, it took me a bit to notice.

I love our Outlander, but I find the ride a bit harsh. I'm wondering if swapping out the 20" wheels for 18" with bigger sidewalls would make make the ride a little smoother.

I'm pleasantly surprised by the interior on this thing, however, i dont think its a $50k vehicle. Then again, when the RAV4 Prime is getting marked up out the waxoo, maybe this starts to make a little more sense.

I think the level 2 charge time is a bit of a deal breaker with this one for someone who takes multiple local trips per day. You can charge a Tucson PHEV, which costs less than this, in 70% less time (under 2 hours). And I would argue that it does everything slightly better. Hyundai turbo 4-banger likely sounds better than the Rav or the Mitsu. Similar to many cars these days that aren't Toyotas, Teslas or Hondas, I also feel like the Mitsu would suffer from depreciation. You can get a 2 year old (2021) version of this with 16k miles for under $30k currently. So that means about $1/mile depreciation on that particular vehicle-not very economical despite fuel savings. I would def lease one of these instead of buying, would likely end up paying about $0.60/mile over 2 year, 20,000 mile lease. Current lease deal in Boston area on an SE is $299/month for 24 months with $4k down. And only $0.25/mile extra if you go over the mileage. I don't know that Toyota will even lease out a Rav4 Prime.

Beautiful suv love Phevs, just bought a Chevy Volt !

The dashboard looks like my Mitsubishi Xpander Cross CVT, but it’s blue color

Is engine longevity a concern with PHEV vehicles? It seems like their gas engines are often going straight from off to high power output. Usually with gas cars I let it warm up before giving much gas.

@MrRaitzi

10 ай бұрын

Mitsu has bullet proof engine. They also run it more than other hybrids to keep in good condition. Big questionmark is the battery. Lot of EVs have now issues with batteries breaking. Mitsu how ever has 10year battery warranty for total failure. Degradiation people just need to deal with.

Nice review, I would like to know though, which max. weight this Outlander can pull. Is it any good in that respect?

@adamcoe

8 ай бұрын

I believe it's in the neighbourhood of 1500 lbs.

Is there any other PHEV out there that has DC fast charging? That seems pretty unique!

How the heck did you get it to stay in EV power only when you really stomp on it? Mine always kicks the gas engine on once the EV power level gets to the top even in EV mode. I'm in sunny Los Angeles, so I don't think cold weather is the issue. Great review by the way!

@crazylala2003

9 ай бұрын

Mine stays in EV mode no problem even at freeway on ramps and I am in the Los Angeles area as well. If you press the gas pedal past the detent you will kick on the engine.

I don't understand why it's STILL so hard to get an MSRP Toyota. Makes me not want one even if I could get one. What are they pulling?

Loved the commentary on the CVT! It's not supposed to be fun and engaging, you guys, it's supposed to deliver max power at any speed and that's the beauty of it. I hate it when manufacturers have the simulated gears even when you're just in drive and not in "manual mode". I know it's not as cool sounding as a manual or an automatic with actual gears, but it's the theoretical best transmission for max acceleration!

@MrRaitzi

10 ай бұрын

There is no CVT with Mitsu. One gear, clutch and electric motors.

@TranqueiraCars

10 ай бұрын

@@MrRaitzi wow, really? When he said it was a a CVT I just assumed that was true. How does that work, though? The engine seemed to a be at a constant RPM, so, for me, it doesn't seem to make sense for the clutch to be slipping all the time, that's a lot of energy going down the drain, not to mention clutch wear.

@MrRaitzi

10 ай бұрын

@@TranqueiraCars engine at constant rmp charges the battery which drives the motors. When speed is sufficient like 45mph or something(and you are not EV only mode) car and engage the clutch and drive wheels directly. Benefit is EV like feeling most of the time and simple design. Bad thing is poorer acceleration on high speed because there are no gears and worse economy while not having energy in battery.

@TranqueiraCars

10 ай бұрын

@@MrRaitzi got it! Thanks for the explanation

@RealNameNeverUsed

10 ай бұрын

@@MrRaitzithat principle sounds like the Koenigsegg Regera

interior is more nice in Mitsubishi, but electric range is better in Rav4 Prime. Question what will give more happiness in the long run - better interior or better range?

Up in Canada here you can't even GET a Rav4 Prime....and even if you do manage to get one, they are charging 10 grand over MSRP + a 2-4 year wait (if they will even deliver it) For the Outlander PHEV....if you know where to go, you can get MSRP. Don't settle for anything over that as some dealers are trying to charge in the range of 7-10 grand over MSRP...OH and THEY ARE IN STOCK!!!! I got my 2024 Outlander PHEV GT last week and OMG....300 Km driven so far and only two little notches of actual gas used. Everything else on electricity (big city driving and small commutes makes this perfect). So far, my gas milage is sitting at 4.2 l/100km (yes...the gas engine comes on to heat up the interior since it's cold here...but showing me at a full charge...83KM)

Wow in Australia the rav is ,56k to order and the outlander 77k!

Nice car...❤💯

Outlander PHEV has no mechanical transmission therefore it’s actually extra difficult to make fake gears 😂. The engine is mated directly to a generator.

@TedwardDrives

10 ай бұрын

The Hondas still fake shifts even with no cvt or gearbox. It’s a thing even with these unfortunately

Very good overall look and feel of this car. Could you compare it to the Kia Sorento?

@MrRaitzi

10 ай бұрын

One thing Mitsu is better is cold climate. This has heat pump where Sorento needs to fire up gasoline engine when you need heating. Also better of road capability. Sorento is bigger all round and has better efficiency but shorter EV range. Also reliability should be better with engines where Mitsu is larger displacement with no turbo and Sorento is 1.6l turbo. Both offer good warranty.

@kingofthenerds7925

10 ай бұрын

Funny that you mention that, because when I went to the Minnesota state fair to check this thing out, the representative said that this car best compares to the Kia Sorento. So I guess the answer is a resounding yes.

@Matthew-rn3ds

10 ай бұрын

@@MrRaitziit has a heat pump but it only works up to -15 Celsius

@MrRaitzi

10 ай бұрын

@@Matthew-rn3ds similar what is on Rav4. Efficency drops too much in very cold. Using ICE time to time is good to keep engine from rusting and fuel not going bad. 10% ethanol last 3 months and 5% ethanol 6 months.

Great review. But your home voltage isn't 110V. It's 120V. Electricians know.

I'm not sure about this, but isn't the Mitsubishi a true 4WD, with roughly 50/50 split between front and rear axle power and torque, whereas the Toyota is mainly front wheel drive, with a small motor on the back axle? i.e. the split on the Toyota is closer to 80/20????

@allensoofian7632

10 ай бұрын

True. Outland is rear-biased, and the ride quality feels much smoother than Rav4 which feels like a taxi. I do not agree with this gentleman's assessment of the ride quality. Rav4 ride feels so rigid, and front-wheel based, like the other Rav4s.

The only New mitsubishi that i like

Tedward, curious to what watch you are wearing?

@TedwardDrives

10 ай бұрын

It’s my garmin forerunner 255S to keep track of running

wonder what the fuel use is to charge the battery

The front of this looks like a rogue because it is a rogue. Both cars share a chassis

@TedwardDrives

10 ай бұрын

Unless I cut it for time...this is discussed in the video.

I still lost gas and I got home with 2 miles of battery left am I doing something wrong?

They need to figure out their front-end styling. The globs of lights on the sides is a big oof. Shockingly nice interior though! I guess it has to be for the price.

@RealNameNeverUsed

10 ай бұрын

They really went full Pontiac Aztec and Nissan Juke direction in terms of headlights placement.

@ejohnson3131

10 ай бұрын

I have seen videos of people blacking out the front end and it looks really good!

The Outlander makes sense if you really need the third row or if for some reason you just like it. On a practical level, the Prime has much better efficiency in both EV mode and the HV mode. It is lighter and has more horsepower so I'm guessing that makes a big difference. We don't have a Mitsubishi dealership nearby so it's not an option around here. Interestingly the Outlander is the only PHEV that completes with the Prime for EV horsepower. But it's much heavier so I'm guessing it's not as satisfying.

@grantlindsay8102

9 ай бұрын

The Prime's electrical efficiency would only slightly better (we get 75 km or more in the summer) because it's lighter and smaller. In the Outlander, around town (85% of most driving), it costs about 3 cents per km to drive. The Outlander has a much better 4WD system as well for those of us in Winter climates. We don't have a Mitsu dealer either but the Toyota dealers in our Province have no cars to sell so we went with the Outlander. We love it.

Is this car worth it without the PHEV range?

19:31 PT Cruiser towing lmao

@RyanRoadReaper

10 ай бұрын

That little 2.4L Neon motor must be screaming for mercy 😅

It's crazy that this car requires a hood prop when my 2006 saturn doesn't

I want that one. You put some miles on it so it should be considered used. 😂

You can get a 2 year old used one for under 20k after $4k used ev rebate at a qualied dealer.

Is that not a nissan on the inside?

On car gurus, ive noticed many of these are listed 2-3k under their 50k msrp and some have been sitting on dealer lots for 100+ days, some closer to 200 days. Those that have bought one, what kind of deals are you getting? Would i be able to snag a sel for around 40k?

@crazylala2003

9 ай бұрын

I got my SE with Tech package back in April and was able to get $1500 dealer discount.

So close…yet so far. As the owner of a 2021 Rav4 Prime, I was looking at this PHEV because I prefer the interior and driving technology of the Mitsubishi with the superior mechanical AWD system compared to Toyota’s i-AWD system. But the MPG’s of this PHEV in hybrid mode is almost 15 miles less than my Rav4 Prime. That’s unacceptable in my view. Also, the exterior styling is an eyesore (especially the front end) and it will not age well in a few years. The lack of a spare tire is also a negative.

@adamcoe

8 ай бұрын

when is the last time you truly needed a spare tire I mean come on

@viliankossev2344

4 ай бұрын

The front end is odd true, but I have never found the rav4 attractive from any angle.

chAdemo port is there on this vehicle for its Vehicle to load capability rather than fast charging

@TedwardDrives

9 ай бұрын

Tell that to the engineers who specifically said its for fast charging.

@ridmadissanayake5201

9 ай бұрын

@@TedwardDrives check out the "Mitsubishi dendo drive house". is the fast charging really useful? well maybe on the rare occasion you go on a road trip and fast charge it while you grab something to eat

@MrRaitzi

8 ай бұрын

​@@TedwardDrivesyes but only fools fast charge hybrid battery. Not good for life time of battery.

i sat in a new rav4 it was a base model but i really didnt like it compared to my gfs forester

My dream PHEV car to get.

The steering fit better on triton 2024

Does it come with a spare tire option like Rav4 Prime ?

@ihikebc2295

8 ай бұрын

It doesn't.

what are the wheel pallets for?

One of the most sought after cars the Prime rav 4 and Toyota can`t make them fast enough really bad management when they loose sales to other

I looked at this model earlier this year when I had to find another car after mine was totalled but I'm sorry the front design is horrible, I could not see myself driving this thing. It's sad because the side and rear are great.

@ejohnson3131

10 ай бұрын

You can black out the front and it actually look sporty and aggressive.

"zero fuel"...not so fast! The vehicle requires a 20 litre top up of petrol about every 3 months. If you only do short city driving you may have an issue.

These are basically a Nissan Rogue, correct? But made in Japan, not like the Rogue.

@YYZSR

4 ай бұрын

Non-PHEV Outlanders in the new face, are basically Nissans. Nissan engine & CVT, etc. The PHEV has a powertrain made by Mitsubishi themselves. Mitsubishi’s engineered battery system and all that

Engines with CVT transmissions sound like they are giving away so much power they scream like "I'm a monster RRAAAAAAA"...

My man has a GT Premium but thinks it's an SEL, no wonder it feels so premium🤣

Mitsubishi cars are so nice and extremely reliable.

@philk4944

9 ай бұрын

MITS ARE CRAP ON TOAST.

@HandsomeNamed

8 ай бұрын

​@@philk4944 Don't buy one then, weirdo?

Hate it. But the price is right, gotta give them credit for that

I had a non-PHEV outlander base model as a rental a few years ago. It was the generation before this one. I gotta say, I hated it. Drove poorly, incredibly slow, interior quality was abysmal, and no android auto / Apple CarPlay in model year 2020. That being said, this one does look A LOT nicer. I’m glad to see the improvements. The Rav4 prime needs competition!

@MrRaitzi

10 ай бұрын

I hope this new model saves the brand.

Isnt it just a rebranded nissan rouge?

@TedwardDrives

10 ай бұрын

It is a Nissan rogue platform underneath yes

that outlander is really nice, but it's partially owned by Renault and Nissan, Jatco makes the transaxle, it's a sibling of the cvt from nissan, and any car centric person knows how great a jatco cvt is..

@keyner111

10 ай бұрын

This Outlander PHEV uses a GKN Multi Mode E-Transmission not a JATCO Unit.

@rustbeltrobclassic2512

10 ай бұрын

@@keyner111 Not according to the Mitsu site or the wiki, both indicate it uses the Jatco CVT8 as it's transaxle.. it's used in a variety of hybrids from nissan, renault, citreon, and mitsubishi's.

@keyner111

10 ай бұрын

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 nope, the PHEV uses a GKN Multi Mode E-Transmission, it's in GKN's website.

@keyner111

10 ай бұрын

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 the regular GAS Outlander uses a JATCO Unit.

@rustbeltrobclassic2512

10 ай бұрын

@@keyner111 The PHEV uses it too, per Mitsubishi.. Will have to lay under one to read the case..

Why does the enfotainment screen look like the Nissan pathfinders screen.

@TedwardDrives

10 ай бұрын

Underneath this vehicle is a Nissan Rogue. It probably is the same screen

@unboxings5218

10 ай бұрын

@@TedwardDrivesthis car reminds me of a Nissan rouge/pathfinder.. so who copied who

@bankperson1366

9 ай бұрын

@@unboxings5218 Nissan Renault & Mitsubishi are sharing the platforms i.e. working at same facility to build better cars so EOD they are sharing stuff, in fact Nissan is key stake holder of Mitsubishi where they can take decisions too what is there to copy ..?

@ryxsondixon915

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@unboxings5218Nissan is the majority shareholder of mitsubishi, nobody copied anyone it’s the same company lol.

the only downside of this car is the temperature sensitivity of the battery pack, like with any other hybrid. in my opinion, this is the future of cars, not pure EV.

@alanbland1976

8 ай бұрын

I agree. There's not enough battery material availability for full conversion to EVs. But they can make 3-5 PHEV batteries for every EV. Similarly, if your goal is reduction of GHGs then 3-5 PHEVs are far more effective than a single EV for combating climate change.

Remember this same family company owned made all of WW2 zero combat naval airplane that attacked Pearl habor and all the Pacific ocean campaign battles.

Actually yes… Mitsubishi has a 10 year 100k warranty. They are way more affordable and niche. The trade off is dealer support. But if you live near one, you’d be silly to buy a Toyota over it

Ill take the Mitsubishi over the Rav4, yes the toyota will last longer but the Mitsubishi is so much more comfortable and quiter

Remember when Mitsubishi got rid of the EVO, their bread and butter? Pepperidge farm remembers

the mitsubishi looks so much better and interior is AMAZING. i drove my outlander 2200 miles road trip. amazing. MI Pilot assist did an incredible job. i was not even tired lol

A Mitsubishi at msrp? I remember when they have you deeeep discounts and 1% interest for 60 months, lmao

@stevenhummel2490

9 ай бұрын

Great incentives when leasing currently and dealer discounts if you stay out of Florida. I just got a sale price of $36184 for a SEL that MSRP stickers at $47400.

@agilenjeyamraj1739

9 ай бұрын

​@@stevenhummel2490👏

As an owner of a PHEV Ford Kuga/Escape, I would not bother fast charging as the fuel consumption is so good. Also, you are going to upset all the electric car owners hogging a charger. Good car review

That speed of charging on chademo is bad. It is a small battery. Most EV battery only vehicles will charge in less time to 80% on type 2 charging. Chademo is old tech.

@MrRaitzi

8 ай бұрын

You should never fast charge hybrid battery. Life time of full EVs also suffer from it and much more so on small hybrid batteries.