MA. v Karen Read Trial Day 13 - Colin Albert cross & voire dire. Matt McCabe testifies.
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THE DOCKET
0:00 Welcome
5:56 Court House Keeping
14:11 The Hearing
15:20 Colin Albert - Cross-Examination
1:15:30 Voir Dire Colin Albert Videos
1:28:40 Prosecution - Questioning
1:32:07 Defense - Questioning
1:33:05 Defense Arguments
1:37:40 Prosecution Arguments
1:40:35 Defense Argues
1:43:20 Court Break
1:53:00 Judge's Decision
1:55:50 Colin Albert - Cross Examination Continued
2:03:15 Re-Direct Examination
2:22:00 Matthew McCabe Testimony
3:49:30 Court Recess for the Day
3:52:52 Summary
3:58:00 Q&A
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I'm surprised they didn't re-home Colin too.
@kelseydeweese
20 күн бұрын
I just spit out my matcha I laughed so hard. Thanks bud
@passionflower4594
20 күн бұрын
Maybe after that poor testimony they will, wouldn't put it past them.
@nancytarquinio8875
20 күн бұрын
They tried hiding him
@mariaskinnider115
20 күн бұрын
No one would want him after this performance. He seems like a boy trying to live up to his family’s code of “”I don’t recall and correct “”
@passionflower4594
20 күн бұрын
@@mariaskinnider115 100%
These people do not care about John dying or his justice, and they don't care if Karen is found guilty or not, all they care about is them not getting in trouble !!! its clear af and disgusting
@whyamiheredlb
9 күн бұрын
Small town entitlement … this Albert family is just gross. Why the attitude towards the defense team when it was the internet that was harassing them… and furthermore, if it weren’t for this kids uncle and mother, he wouldn’t be there! Unbelievable.
Colin doesn’t remember anything at all from the last 3 years except that he left Brian’s house at 12:10am and a VERY detailed playback as to how he hurt his knuckles
@FlyingTeaRex
19 күн бұрын
Does anyone believe anything he says at this point?
@oxigen85
19 күн бұрын
He slipped on ice and saved his fall with a superhero landing. Seems legit.
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend
19 күн бұрын
Right?? He vomited that story out like he's been whispering it to the mirror for 2 years straight.
@Sam4got
19 күн бұрын
Karma is watching this guy! I can’t figure out why every single person tried to keep his name out of absolutely everything. It’s not like he’s tiny Tim in a. Christmas Carol. IMO
@barbaramay1866
19 күн бұрын
So this young boy beat the crap out of John until he died. Yeah, that’s legit.
This case has become a mystery novel that I want to skip to the last chapter and find out what actually happened
@shellymac7597
20 күн бұрын
I am wondering if we will ever find out what really happened. 😢
@Moxie865
19 күн бұрын
I don’t think we will ever know what actually happened, unfortunately. It’ll forever be an OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony, JonBenet Ramsey, Lisa Irwin type case.
@alicyamatheson7877
19 күн бұрын
@@Moxie865 I'm trying to keep neutral since we haven't got to the forensics yet.. but yeah, it's looking like another unsolved mystery
@EEmB
19 күн бұрын
@Moxie865 After OJ's own "If I did it" book and specially that interview where he walks us through it, imo we basically know what happened there. Here however, I don't think we'll never know. 😢
@hope7144
19 күн бұрын
Same !
Maybe "God save the commonwealth" isn't a formality, it's a literal prayer.
@origamikiddo2625
20 күн бұрын
Lol!
@ThatGirlT77
20 күн бұрын
In this case, it very well may be! lol
@beulahboi
20 күн бұрын
Gut laugh initiated
@KonekoPurrrfection
20 күн бұрын
😂
@SonjaHamburg
20 күн бұрын
Every time I hear "commonwealth", I think: Why pull India and Australia into this? 😅
"There's no evidence of anything in this case" OMG I LAUGHTED SO LOUD ! Ain't that true Lally ! THAT'S the problem !!
@ThatRedhedd
20 күн бұрын
Seriously!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@SissouLoveVideo
20 күн бұрын
@@ThatRedhedd 🤣
@SaraBlu
19 күн бұрын
Somebody clip it or make it a meme please. That’s the prosecution in a nutshell. I just can’t 😂
@EEmB
19 күн бұрын
We NEED that as a clip on loop!!!
@TheNoonish
19 күн бұрын
And that’s the real problem. I don’t even know what the main cause of death was, whether it was the hypothermia or the blow to the head.
Is nobody noticing that 17 year olds are drinking and going to bars and police officers are drnking and driving?
@AlatielSedai
20 күн бұрын
It happens all the time, but it's the only way that it's just ignored like it's normal and acceptable. Also, the kids are out all hours of the night and no one even knows where they are?
@Alison1973
20 күн бұрын
I'm sure these kids are drinking and driving too. We just won't hear about that. These parents are not responsible at all! 🙄 See, let your kids do adult things at an early age and crap like this happens.
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
20 күн бұрын
Yes!! Also, it's illegal for under 18 to drive after like 12:30 which they already testified they were.
@marciabarton8923
19 күн бұрын
Seems he's been drinking since he was 15 or 16. Not a good look for a family of cops.
@Netgirl9
19 күн бұрын
I'm getting Murdaugh vibes from this family...
Colin has cross-examnesia.
@robinmaynard1640
19 күн бұрын
I like that!!
@basedelon
19 күн бұрын
I don't remember.
@zxy78267
19 күн бұрын
@@basedelonHaha
@UnusualAmber5
13 күн бұрын
LOL definitely going to use this
Cant wait for all the people Colin Albert has fought start contacting the defense team!!!
@KAT-mx3xq
19 күн бұрын
His school discipline records would be good to have.
@timroberts6695
19 күн бұрын
I can’t wait until they met him in the parking lot late at night
@jayoue1515
16 күн бұрын
@@KAT-mx3xq but his dad is a cop. Trust me. Schools are political. They went easy on him.
Its as if the defense is not only fighting for Karen but for the O'Keef family as well for closure. This is all very sad
@sam4lotr
20 күн бұрын
Yes! I came here to say that, too!
@Kai-here
20 күн бұрын
Indeed! The more this trial goes on, the more it seems that defence are the only ones who remember JOK and show any kind of empathy to the fact that he had died.
@BookishDark
19 күн бұрын
What makes it sad is that if you watch John’s brother when prosecutors are arguing to submit the videos from Collin, he looks disgusted - like he thinks Karen is guilty already. Despite the evidence to the contrary.
@Hickory60
19 күн бұрын
@@BookishDark the O’Keefe family does think Karen is guilty. They are on the Albert’s side
@BookishDark
19 күн бұрын
@@Hickory60 I figured. Seems sad that they’d rather blame her than find out if it’s even her fault.
I have found 12 bees dead in my driveway and thought about that more than these people thought about a man known to them!
@ruprect8858
19 күн бұрын
How did they die?
@speedofskaja
19 күн бұрын
that IS weird 😯😯😯
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
You or your neighbors are using pesticides. 💔
@charlii73
14 күн бұрын
Nope, no pesticides. I have no idea why, which is why I still think about it. But some people have suggested the weather or it being mass suicide because the Queen moved on
@charlii73
14 күн бұрын
@stellaallbright4750 nope wasn't that
Emily, you asked how does no one in that house care ... that alone should speak VOLUMES to the jury as to who committed this crime.
I hope the Okeefe's family relationship with Karen Read is repairable. I don't know what really happened but so far i feel truly sorry for the victim and the accused.
@valentinat3250
19 күн бұрын
No matter what happens with the verdict, I’m afraid the acrimony all around will be too great. IMO.
"There's no evidence of anything in this case." Did the Prosecutor forget which side he's on? Lol
Colin Albert is giving Alex Murdaugh's son, Paul. Paul killed someone in a boating accident because he was highly intoxicated and driving super fast. The both give the same entitlement and selfishness. When I first saw Colin I couldn't remember who he reminded me off but it finally came to me.
@zxy78267
19 күн бұрын
Yes! Same! I keep thinking about how everyone seems to be intimidated by the Albert family and they're all starting to seem suspect to me. I'm trying not to be biased, but when a cop and his entire family is regularly (by the sounds of it) drinking all night and driving home, it's making me wonder.
@prlgl
18 күн бұрын
It’s so funny you say that bcz I thought the exact same thing!!!!
@veautyfull
10 күн бұрын
Thisss! Me too!
@jennrocchi6385
Күн бұрын
I saw a comment on another trial video here that called the Albert's the "Boston Murdaughs" and man, this kid REALLY played the part of Paul Murdaugh SO well.
So far the only thing Prosecution has proven to me thus far is: A) It was snowing; B) law enforcement is (at best) completely incompetent at preserving a crime scene and investigative work; C) most of the witnesses have weaponized amnesia the second Defense asks them anything. "Is the sky blue?" "I don't know, I don't recall."
@rosey_ie
20 күн бұрын
Wait…. IT WAS SNOWING?!? 🤯
@taxiuniversum
20 күн бұрын
@@rosey_ieNo worries. Lally will lay it out for you. Five or fifty more times.
@nulano
20 күн бұрын
They haven't even proven the "weaponized amnesia" to me, since they didn't interview most of them for 1.5 years!
@kelseymiller2414
20 күн бұрын
I don’t know that I believe that it was snowing. Would need to hear more before I make up my mind. 😅
@SM-kh1oz
20 күн бұрын
I AGREE!! 100
Why are all the prosecution witnesses so belligerent especially these young kids. His arrogance is learned from his parents but to not care that someone found dead on his lawn is not given a second thought is truly disturbing.
@missmelissz
20 күн бұрын
Totally its really messed up and I feel so bad for the victim's family who has to endure this absurd trial thats making a mockery of O'Keefe death. The Albert's are a powerful and well connected family. Lally said there is no evidence so who's an expert on getting rid of evidence? Law enforcement which happened to be everyone in their house that night so why are they so defensive when they're not even on trial? Maybe its endless lies, amnesia and unhelpfulness in this case. Its truly sad that they don't care and don't see the feds are watching them. Just a matter time until the feds get collin. A self entitled family who is abusing their power to cover up a murder investigation
@katiehettinger7857
20 күн бұрын
Are the belligerent or defensive? I get, "they have circled the wagons to protect one of their own," vive.
@mariaskinnider115
20 күн бұрын
@@missmelissz couldn’t agree more. As if the O’Keefe family haven’t suffered enough they have to endure this shambles of a trial. Surely other LE must be ashamed of the way a fallen officer is being treated.
@barbaramay1866
19 күн бұрын
They didn’t do anything to John O’Keefe. Karen Read did. She admitted it several times to different people. Wake up people!
So things that this family of cops and military vets teach their kids: 1) Walk with your head down oblivious to your surroundings 2)Don't lock your doors someone might want to come in 3) Barge into someone's bedroom to wake them up 4) When you slip on ice, the best way to safely break your fall is with a closed fist, knuckles straight down Truly some life lessons we can all live by
@MsMorganGirls
20 күн бұрын
My husband is former sheriff 's deputy. It wouldn't turn out too good for someone bursting into our room while we were sleeping.
@jessbeingme8155
20 күн бұрын
I wonder if they taught their kids not to drink and drive while driving drunk with the kids in the back lol
@katemarlor1816
20 күн бұрын
@seagettler1917. 5) If you're a cop and you have some involvement with a possible crime, dispose of evidence prior to a court order stating to NOT dispose of evidence.
@loveliftlemons
20 күн бұрын
It’s wild to me. We’re a LEO family. We check the doors multiple times before going to sleep. We have cameras and a Malinois. She is a trained protection dog, I might add. The worst thing you can do for your pet and family is not train them, especially a shepherd. And we don’t refer to her as “it”. She is our heart and the only reason I sleep soundly. This entire thing is INSANE and makes ZERO sense. I bet I could poll hundreds of officers in Oklahoma and we’d all agree that our doors are locked. Which says a lot considering the crime rate difference.
@kathrynferguson9692
20 күн бұрын
Two jurors talking
oh my God, I am 75 years old and have a better memory than this guy - you cannot remember, a week ago❓ L O L
Allen went hard on questions because a women is on trial for life. She will get a LIFE sentence for this if convicted. If you believe shes innocent then you will feel scared for her and any other person falsely accused.
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
Every case prosecuted in Canton, MA for the past 30+ years - the decades anyone involved in the corruption of this case - should be reopened and heavily scrutinized!!
@pmbp6584
18 күн бұрын
This is a fantastic point.
@ann5028
18 күн бұрын
At this point, all of the Alberts and friends of family feel so rehearsed and defensive. It rubs me so wrong
@pmbp6584
18 күн бұрын
@@ann5028 no kidding. Colin REALLY irritated me. And I’ve been watching as a juror too, I haven’t done any research or anything either. He seemed incredibly dishonest and rehearsed to me. His fighting stuff was obvious.
@ann5028
18 күн бұрын
@@pmbp6584 oh don’t even get me started on that kid 😂 the most entitled self-righteousness I’ve seen in a long time. He’s never had his ego checked and it shows.
He literally said he can’t remember talking to Allie in the LAST FIVE YEARS!!! This happened TWO YEARS AGO…
@sugarfree9921
Күн бұрын
If I were a juror, after hearing that, I would assume everything he says is a lie because that was so absurd.
As a radiology tech, I am not convinced he wouldn't have broken all of his metacarples all of his weight landing on his fist.
@katiehettinger7857
20 күн бұрын
The injury could be from either a fall or striking something or someone. We are no closer to knowing who done it.
@calliew311
20 күн бұрын
@@katiehettinger7857 that's what the prosecution's witness said, the commenter said, as a radiology professional, she finds it hard to believe he fell the way he said and didn't break his knuckles or hand. She was giving her professional opinion. That's more of a believable outcome than what Colin said.
@Moxie865
19 күн бұрын
@@calliew311💯
@EEmB
19 күн бұрын
Yeah I can't see any version where you break your fall on your knuckles/fist and not break
@JS-csnjjip
19 күн бұрын
His wrist would have most likely broke
I need to take a break from watching this. It's depressing that these people don't seem to care about John O'Keefe. Brian Albert went to the funeral of a fallen officer, in New York. Yet, he could not even walk outside when there was a fallen officer in his front yard. In my opinion the young people come across as uncaring and arrogant. I hope that the jurors notice this. (I hope that my comment about the young people is OK, I did say that it was my opinion.)
@Spygal92
19 күн бұрын
The truth hurts / and I agree and could say worse- you were polite
@zxy78267
19 күн бұрын
I think you summed up where I am at this point. I haven't seen any true emotion from any of them with regard to John O'Keefe. It's especially sad given that he was the family member taking care of his niece and nephew who had already lost so much. His death must have been absolutely devastating to them. They've lost every adult caregiver they've had in their short lives.
The family that drinks together lies together
Replay crew!! I also get this “do not care” vibe from Colin and the others. Whether you knew the victim or not ( which they did!) you’d be devastated a man lost his life on your lawn leaving behind children as well.
@katiehettinger7857
20 күн бұрын
Or is it emotional distancing, because Colin was involved and doesn't want to think about what happened.
@marilynfisher
20 күн бұрын
They are protecting one of the kids imo
@sjlar1981
19 күн бұрын
This makes the most sense to me @katie
@ThatAmber_
19 күн бұрын
I strongly sense and you can tell that they were indeed instructed on what NOT to say. And to be honest otherwise. With that said i sense they are holding some things back and careful and detached as Emily herself has said (distancing themselves)
@sjlar1981
19 күн бұрын
It doesn’t endear them to the audience / jury does it?
How many times did I rewatch Mr. Jackson's "Seriously?" In response to Colin's scrapping knuckles on slippery driveway story? Yes. 1:10:09 just so i can keep watching it
@origamikiddo2625
20 күн бұрын
Also Emily's cackling laugh is me!
@julessmithpaints
20 күн бұрын
It was the best laugh all day.
@nopewmopan
20 күн бұрын
"Seriously?" "Objection, your honor." Fair.
@ThatRedhedd
20 күн бұрын
🤣 Colin went with the Menendez Brothers look today!
@UnusualAmber5
13 күн бұрын
I mean… if he would have said he fell backwards, it would’ve made so much more sense. I could see his arms going out and the back of his hand banging on the pavement. That’s not what he said though. You’d think he would’ve contemplated the physics of it over the years but he clearly isn’t a critical thinker LOL.
Here’s what I think the reasoning is for putting this on Karen - NOT because she’s an outsider, but because she happened to come back and find him. It was opportunistic more than anything else. I think if she hadn’t shown up they might’ve just said, “wow, we had no idea! He left and we thought he was fine! We had no idea he’d been hurt out there!”
@FlyingTeaRex
19 күн бұрын
Yea. Police short hand of suspects: 1. Husband/Wife/Partner 2. The witness 3. Anybody else
@DeeKay-66
16 күн бұрын
You’ll hear evidence later that somebody from the community called in the 3:00 am hour for the snowplow to plow that street. I think they were trying to blame it on the snowplow but decided for some reason to blame it on Karen instead.
@BookishDark
16 күн бұрын
@@DeeKay-66 ahh didn’t know that - I’d guess that’s it’s probably just because she showed up and they were annoyed that she screwed up the plan
Alan Jackson saying 'Bitch', 'Bro', 'F* you up' and with bro-worthy conviction is just... I can't....😆, gotta love the defense!
@Vermontita
19 күн бұрын
I Know!! I was like.. Ooooo!!!!!
@Patsanford220
19 күн бұрын
Highlight of the trial for me 😂 he really turned it on for bang bang and talked to him in his language!
@DeeKay-66
16 күн бұрын
Alan Jackson is so poised it’s hard to imagine he ever uses these words but he NAILED them in tone, context and delivery! What an amazing lawyer!!
A conspiracy is nowhere near as complex as one might imagine. In Law Enforcement, rank holds a ton of weight, and politics (or one's desire to further one's own career) is enough to get anyone to "stand down" and look the other way. The lead investigator was a close friend of the family. Nobody besides him needed to be in on it. He simply steered the investigation a particular way, and his comrades didn't argue with his theory of the crime. The impropriety throughout the investigation is public knowledge! The same goes for how Brian Albert, the eldest sibling with a well-known propensity for violence, leads his family. One word from him, and everyone falls in line. They just do what they're told and don't need to be IN ON why they're doing or saying anything.
@janebrown3587
20 күн бұрын
Exactly. Fear and intimidation are very strong motivators.
@EEmB
19 күн бұрын
Exactly this!! I almost take offence to people calling this some kind of "grand conspiracy" and saying "you can't get hundreds of people to be in on this, why would they". If this is a conspiracy it's only of (parts of) ONE family (the Albert-McCabe) and their friend Michael Proctor. It's just a handfull of close knitted people. Cover ups/conspiracies like that is not far fetched at all, and happens all the time.
@virahpayam
18 күн бұрын
Absolutely 💯 When everyone has the same values and sense of entitlement, you don't have to directly communicate to work together. It's understood that in these situations, you do/say whatever will put you and yours in the most advantageous position possible.
Good lord it is amazing how little these folks remember, but the how specific some other memories are that are beneficial to them. My heart breaks for the victim's family
These people are not good enough at lying to be lying this much.
Colin got cocky. "I think im equally strong with both hands" only one way to know that bro
I've lived in Canton, MA, all my life and never heard of the Albert family until this trial. John O'Keefe lived 2 streets over from me. This case is really dividing the town.
“There’s no evidence of anything in this case “ ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
I cannot get over how not a single person in this family, who had a dead man on their front lawn, not ONE of them, can even be bothered to pretend they give a shit. Not one of them seems like they care at all that a man is dead, two kids have lost yet another care giver and close family member, and a family lost their son/brother/friend. The stonewalling, indifference, and sometimes even belligerence, is heartbreaking.
I always brace myself with my knuckle’s every time I fall said no one EVER!!!
@justinspencer983
9 күн бұрын
“I hurt the front of every single knuckle while bracing my hand!” Said Colin Oh yes the classic scraping every knuckle perfectly and not hurting the rest of your hand type of fall. He could have said he slid on ice, or slipped and landed on it (ie pinning his hand) but no it was bracing
When does the trial of Karen Read start?
Also, as a internet juror, so far I don't have any any idea if John O'Keefe is even DEAD.
I just wish there was 1 person that would be truthful and not hedge. A man died! This family acts like this is a no big thing.
@carrieburke2498
20 күн бұрын
I think some are scared shitless of retaliation of Albert’s, specifically, Brian Albert.
@slisha4940
20 күн бұрын
I feel like it was accident by one of the kids & parents are hiding it.
@Kay_Watermelon
20 күн бұрын
It is really really weird how it's all going. Every single person involved seems to love answering for the prosecution and completely blanks the defence. It's like they all made that agreement beforehand to be intentionally obtuse. I still think Karen did something that she's hiding. But I sort of think that about everyone involved now...
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
20 күн бұрын
The wonderful lawyer and pharmacist couple for the win thus far.
@charlii73
20 күн бұрын
They are definitely defending the Albert's as opposed to getting justice for John
If it was my family member who was killed and i started this trial confident that the prosecution would be putting up everything that would prove the defendant did it, and this is how it was turning out and the cw hadnt even rested yet, i'd be so pissed. The shoddy investigation, the obviously lying witnesses, the fact that the feds are investigating the state cops for this case... im not a family member and I'M pissed this is happening to them publicly. What do you think the family is feeling and thinking when watching this??
@rebekahmanning7934
19 күн бұрын
I cannot imagine having to be John's brother listening to the testimony of officer snow blower explaining their evidence collection in red solo cups and a grocery sac. If I was him I would be filing a civil suit against that police department for mishandling his brother's death investigation.
I'll say it again, this judge & prosecutor do not value or respect the jurors TIME. Jurors actually loose income $erving on a panel. I'm Shook!😮
@ThatRedhedd
20 күн бұрын
Seriously!!! "What time did the basketball games usually start? Who did you sit with? What was the score? How many time-outs?"
@timroberts6695
19 күн бұрын
I truly feel that jurors should be payed the same pay scale they are loosing. If you make 12 an hour you get it, if you make 35 an hour you get it. Ect.
@A_L-qy2qg
19 күн бұрын
I would be SO pissed to lose 6-8 weeks of income.
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
*lose *losing
@TheDancingWanderer
15 күн бұрын
@@timroberts6695💯 When I was on jury duty, I was so appreciative that my job reimbursed me for what I would have been paid attending work, but I know not all employers will do that.
Noticed the kid kept calling prosecutor "sir," but I don't think he called defence "sir" once.
2:39:46 Someone in the live chat said, "I'm starting to wonder if Lally gets paid by the word." I died.😂😂 Thank you. I needed that. Lally hurts my brain.
@FlyingTeaRex
19 күн бұрын
He does indeed use 5x the words needed at all times…
@ronda917
19 күн бұрын
I’ve said this several times! He is a continual word salad! 😂
@angelasandersbooks
19 күн бұрын
Yessss, he k*lls me. There is no need. Just ask with "Did" or "Was," etc. This "kinda, sorta, what, if anything" crap? No. Just no.
@oliviarodgers7969
19 күн бұрын
Feel like he missed his calling to career in sleep hypnosis
How the F did nobody see John , cars coming and going , people looking out the window , john calling for directions , karen seen outside sitting in the car , how the hell does nobody see John , he didnt just poof into thin air
@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios
19 күн бұрын
The thing is, they did see him. Inside that house at some point before they dumped him out front. They're just not admitting it
Replay crew: I think Allan was taking his frustrations out in the case during the voir dire swear session 🤣
@ThatRedhedd
20 күн бұрын
I can't fathom how defense attorneys manage to not tell Bev off each time she makes her absurd and unjust rulings!
@Alison1973
20 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
was watching the live behind everyone else and jumped over to replay to comment: my brother unironically has fallen the exact same way Colin claims to and he broke his hand and his knuckle was out of place. my first time having real life experience that counters something I've heard a witness say!
@SonjaHamburg
20 күн бұрын
Yes. I also once had the same injury when i slipped und hit my knuckles against a wall while falling.
@SonjaHamburg
20 күн бұрын
(collin is still not a trustworthy witness to me. But you can injure yourself in so many different ways on ice. And it didnt look to me like he was punching a person. )
@origamikiddo2625
20 күн бұрын
That was my immediate thought, if you had managed to make ur body do that (with a drunk mind probably just reacting not thinking) I'd say it's very likely you'd break those knuckles/hand! Seems more likely the body splays and you'd hit an elbow or forearm. He should have said he went snowmobiling and scraped it on tree branches.
@jasmine-mi1mh
20 күн бұрын
@@SonjaHamburg yeah you'd think he would have explained it this way instead! but falling straight on the knuckle didn't make sense haha
@Marielle54321
20 күн бұрын
I don’t know… I slipped on ice once as a kid and the most visible injury was very badly scrapped knuckles (all the way down to the bone). I wasn’t trying to punch the ground to break my fall or anything - that’s just how my flailing around trying to regain my balance ended.
"Pull up with Adele in the background?" 😂😂😂
“This isn’t meant to be pejorative…” If this kid knows what pejorative means I will eat my unwashed underpants.
@WedrownyGrajek
20 күн бұрын
Well, given the fact he couldn't understand much simpler questions I think you're safe. 😂
@ThatRedhedd
20 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@wildfire_sweetie7971
20 күн бұрын
The way I almost spit my drink
@robinmaynard1640
19 күн бұрын
Safe bet
I really hope tomorrow someone can please testify about the waterfall and confirm what type of tables they had and the layout🧐 What if there were high top tables 😮and we need more details on the basketball game too sigh 😔
@sherrynirvine
19 күн бұрын
Ooh and I’d love to hear if it was snowing too. And what type of beverage they drank 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Why are these witnesses not wanting to help clear things up? They’re not on trial?!
@jediping
20 күн бұрын
You don’t think so? The defense is basically saying “It wasn’t Karen, it was one of these people.” But they don’t get the same protections she has.
@missmelissz
20 күн бұрын
@@jedipingyeah but if they're lying then their purging themselves so why are they not being truthful? Oh because they're lying and why are they're lying oh because they're covering up a murder investigation. I think everyone is frustrated with alberts because they don't seem to have any care towards the victim's family and they need to be brought to justice if they're obstruction to justice. So they should probably tell the truth if they don't have a reason to hide anything regarding this case. An affair or shameful things you don't want others to see is self fish on the victims family that your worries of what people thinking of you are more important than the death of O'Keefe. Its messed up, they deserve to serve time if they're guilty of covering up this murder
@MissesCakes
20 күн бұрын
I believe that they’re involved somehow
@MissesCakes
20 күн бұрын
@@jedipingwhat protections has Karen gotten? She’s in trial for a possible life sentence.
@SingerChic
20 күн бұрын
@@jediping I don’t understand your comment.
Thank GOD Karen and her family had the resources, probably hers and her family's life savings, to hire such an amazing and competent defense. Albert's and Proctor didn't count on that. Guess that's one good thing being the outsider. Someone needs to do a deep dive on Bev. Why did she push this case?? Who else pushed it??
@ChristopherMichael180
19 күн бұрын
Should she prevail, I hope she sues the commonwealth for her attorney bills plus enough to retire early with the best healthcare available.
@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios
19 күн бұрын
I'm guessing the d.a, bc i don't think Lally even wanted to prosecute this case. It's why he's so dispassionate and disinterested
@melnee
17 күн бұрын
They were probably hoping to win so it could affect the fed case
"I disagree with you in the strongest way possible." I'm keeping that phrase for future use.
Isn’t Colin the “get off my lawn kid??” He totally is!!! I remember that.
@charlii73
20 күн бұрын
I think that was actually his brother Dylan? Which is why the father answered so emphatically when the defence said it was him.
@cmeblu75
19 күн бұрын
@@charlii73 it was one of those kids from that family…I think it was Colin, but I could be wrong. I never knew why they went on and on about the “get off my lawn.” Now it makes sense.
@foxymama9203
19 күн бұрын
His dad said it was the other brother, Dylan, but the defense said it was Colin.
@cmeblu75
19 күн бұрын
@@foxymama9203 ahh! Okay that makes sense now! That’s why I’m getting them confused and why the parents were so defensive about which kid was the “get off my lawn” kid. My goodness…Could Colin really be involved in John’s murder? Why so much cover up? I’m so confused, but the only thing I think everyday is “how in world did a grand jury and DA think this was a case they could prosecute?” I’m absolutely baffled. I refuse to do any outside research though. I’m seeing this through as a jury member, except for the occasional discussion here.
@foxymama9203
19 күн бұрын
@@cmeblu75 I am also a member of the alternate jury of the internet and I agree! I am not seeing why they brought this case with such a shoddy investigation. I don’t know if Colin was involved, but they sure are acting like they are covering for someone. I can’t figure out if it is just a reaction to being the third party possibility and then getting harassed on social media or if they are actually guilty of something. I can’t see with the evidence so far that Karen is guilty of this and I am interested in what Jenn McCabe had to say because she is all over this case! Mostly right now I am just heartbroken for John’s family 😢 He and they deserve so much better that the investigation they did.
My questions have questions lol
My guess is if Proctor gets in to testify it will be a day definitely NOT to miss.
Will this turn out to be a boys will be boys case. The Albert family and friends agreed Colin's got his whole life ahead of him and too bad about Karen someone has to take the fall. 😡
We need the weekend..this is awful..they are cold uncaring people..I agree Mr. OKeefe is lost in this mess..
He just shows the entitlement and ignorance this family has. I grew up near Canton and my sister lived there for a couple years. 100% corrupt!!!
@BT2XX
20 күн бұрын
I was super curious how people of the area see this gang… IF they actually don’t lock the doors like they say, and seeing that they’re all cops, known at bars etc, made me wonder if people know not to mess with them.. Some of the people also look a bit more aged than I’m used to seeing for this age (adults) which can mean party lifestyle or high stress rough lives. You pick up on a lot of things as patterns as humans and they’re giving me that vibe.
@gailramos8231
20 күн бұрын
Canton is actually a nice town. It’s also so close to some not so nice cities and towns making it a desirable town to move “up” to. Need I say more?
Matt McCabe has John Travolta in Primary Colors vibes.
4:46:48 EMILY LAYING IT ALL OUT! 😂🤣 literally how this went to trial is beyond all comprehension.
The more this trial continues, the more it seems so many residents of Canton kept John O'Keefe at arm's length. That's not respect. That's pity. They socially mythologized him into a martyr figure. His true friends recognized the difference between "Sainted Officer John O'Keefe" and "John, our friend who also chose to take in his niece and nephew because he's that kind of guy." The Commonwealth's witnesses have unequivocally shown, regardless of what happened that night, that Karen Read was someone who affirmed John's humanity.
You don't fall in your knuckles. You fall on an outstretched hand. It's reflexive
@Kay_Watermelon
20 күн бұрын
Depends how you fall. If you slip backward, you put your hand back and I've ALWAYS closed my fist. It's not unheard of.
@melindapye7435
20 күн бұрын
My ex did but it resulted in a broken hand.
@wildfire_sweetie7971
20 күн бұрын
FOOSH
@SaraBlu
19 күн бұрын
What if you are holding something and don’t let go? Like make a fist around it?
@Heatherdm
19 күн бұрын
I believe he had something in his other hand. I would expect a fracture if he fell in his Knuckles. Listening to the whole testimony ... I'm just not buying it.
Colin went with the Menendez Brothers look today! 🤣
This whole family and their “can you rephrase your question?” Instead of can you repeat your question; every single one of them, I don’t understand the evasiveness at all, if you have nothing to hide just answer the questions. They will get more public hate from not answering questions.
@Alison1973
20 күн бұрын
I also think some of the family members are not that smart and don't understand certain words. 😂 Sorry Colin and Julie lol!!
@Lizzybee123
19 күн бұрын
They all have the same basic script.
@A_L-qy2qg
19 күн бұрын
I’m assuming the family lawyer said “if you don’t want to answer say - I don’t remember” if you don’t understand or need to stall say “rephrase”
@PLo895
19 күн бұрын
@@A_L-qy2qg I’m sure of it, I’m just saying if this is their way to avoid online hate and harrasment instead of being truthful it is a very poor strategy
@A_L-qy2qg
19 күн бұрын
@@PLo895 I completely agree. Makes them look so sus.
I get that Colin was harassed and that can be very upsetting. But he doesn't remember anything. (Including any instructions from the prosecution) BUT! He knows no one told him to say "I don't remember". AND he knows EXACTLY what time he left his uncle's and got home to his parents.
@tytygirl11
20 күн бұрын
He also knew exactly how he bruised his knuckles down to how he had something in his hand. If I was a jury his testimony would be struck
@robinmaynard1640
19 күн бұрын
Also he knows he never thinks about the fact that a fellow officer to his Dad died in his yard
Adele would like to be excused from this narrative
I can’t keep the people in this trial straight and don’t even ask me about the timeline. I know very little about this case and after following it for 13 days…..I STILL know very little about this case. 😂
Why is it with every single witness, the questions and answers are fine and dandy through the beginning of the night but when they get to the house, the questions and answers get fuzzy and inconsistent??? And Lally starts going backwards and off topic?? Why can't he just ask about the night in order without trying to confuse the jury? And how does Matt McCabe know Julie Nagel is looking out the door? That is such a weird question. This case is so frustrating. As this testimony goes on, the answers start to conform to the prior testimony. Like the CW is asking questions to fix prior answers from other witnesses and it is so sus to me!! Every single one of them have a different story. And I just want to know: If Karen's car was FACING the flagpole and John O'Keefe was hit with the BACK of the SUV, wouldn't he be thrown TOWARD THE MAILBOX and not toward the FLAGPOLE???? Their testimony makes no sense whatsoever.
@silikon2
20 күн бұрын
Alcohol could explain their worsening memories as the night wore on. Not that I believe that for a second.
@katiehettinger7857
20 күн бұрын
As Emily as asked, why isn't there a diagram of where everything was?
@dawn.cheripaul3168
20 күн бұрын
Like a good Agatha Christie
@silikon2
19 күн бұрын
@@katiehettinger7857 Yeah, the DA seemingly unable to present a coherent case... that feels an awful lot like the mass amnesia of so many witnesses and the keystone kop routine. Lally repeatedly asking witnesses irrelevant questions in bulk: I'm just not willing to assume he's an incoherent bone head. EDB noted that at times Lally was suddenly logical and coherent.... If this really is what defense has alleged, I hope the Feds have got the goods.
@red.wine.and.pizza.
19 күн бұрын
I have been confused about this exact point as well!!! Also, wouldn’t he have been on the road, not so far on the lawn?
Does anyone find it strange that Lally started to object so much when certain families are testifying
@jediping
20 күн бұрын
The defense does it too. It happened in Murdaugh as well. You could tell when they were getting to the important parts of the testimony by when the objections started.
So here’s the thing for me, if KR has been framed, the only reason would be because someone in the house where he was found, committed the crime, otherwise what is the reason for the coverup/framing. So I think that someone in that house has committed the crime of murder or they have gotten into something with the victim and something has gone wrong and Brian Snr has asked his police buddies to point the finger elsewhere. It just doesn’t make sense any other way for me and I am struggling to understand how this even got to trial. There is definitely more to this than we are seeing right now, I have to say that I am looking forward to when the defence start their case and get to bring in their witnesses.
@Alison1973
20 күн бұрын
That's the only explanation for me as well. If these people weren't connected to the Canton/Boston police and the state police, I would assume the investigation would have gone a whole different way. Or we'd hope it would at least. Maybe someone in the house didn't deliberately kill JO, but he may have hit his head so hard that it was an accident. Regardless of who it was that killed JO, the family weren't gonna take the chance of going to jail. Even for manslaughter. That's my theory anyway. All of these kids act like adults even as teens. Drinking underage, I'm sure driving at some point while having drank, no curfew just come and go as they please. They all just seem like they're used to doing what they want to. The parents seem to treat them like friends instead of being parents. Colin seems like he's been baby'd his whole life, yet he probably did adult things. He also seems like he'd be a bully. There's noway that kid hasn't been in a fight. I sure hope the defense finds one of his victims to testify. RIP John and praying for Karen.
@StellaKnights
20 күн бұрын
Im hoping for one witness in particular , who apparently went into Reads lawyers office and named the two culprits and told what happened , plus a snowplough driver with a very interesting piece of information
@marilynfisher
20 күн бұрын
@@StellaKnightscan I find this on the internet? Ready for that rabbit hole!
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
🎯 BINGO!! 🎯
He doesn’t remember whether it’s been a year since he talked to his best friend!?
One thing I will say, is that the major takeaway as viewers and hopefully the jury too is that we are all heartbroken about this terrible tragedy. That John O’Keefe deserved better - even from acquaintances, and especially those that had this tragedy happened near them. I’m glad the prosecution called his family members first, not only so they could watch the trial, but also so there is a constant reminder that he died tragically. It is completely tragic and I’m devastated for his family. I look forward for truth coming out and I hope the guilty party is held accountable - regardless if it’s a dog, a kid, a friend, or the girlfriend. But most importantly the shotty police work.
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
My heart goes out to KR. She lost the man she loved, tragically - possibly at the hands of their friends, her friends & "family" were ripped away from her or turned on her, including the two children she loved, her career, reputation, and place in the community is destroyed, and now her life hangs in the balance. She lost everything!! 💔💜💔
Something tells me Colin wasn't first in his class.
all I know about this whole case is it's not surprising someone ended up dead on one of these people's lawns. Who knows who did it, but damn, these people live reckless lives.
From those videos it seems like CA goes to a dark place when he’s drinking. Full of rage, less inhibition, impaired reasoning.
@rebekahmanning7934
19 күн бұрын
Which is very typical of young teenage boys who are drinking. A mix of surging testosterone levels and a substance which causes a lack of inhibition do not mix.
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
@rebekahmanning7934 -- NOT ALL/MOST TEENAGE BOYS. 🙄
@justinspencer983
8 күн бұрын
@@stellaallbright4750not a necessary comment. Never is people understand the concept of “not all” without saying not all
How did Mr. Mcabe see the tire tracks but not the body?
The selective memory in this case is very disturbing.
If Karen Reed moved forward 3 times then left how did she hit him with the back of her car
@justinspencer983
8 күн бұрын
Yes and at what point did she back up high speed? They arrive at the same time as one of the kids brother so was it after that group left? Was it before people looked out the window? I just don’t get how in this very short period of time when the car was seen and observed she was able to run him over (with no suspicion) and left without notice.
I can't believe SO many people have brain farts. No one remembers anything. This is so sad.
@ThatAmber_
19 күн бұрын
Ok so i have a pretty good memory. I remember details very well as a detail oriented person…. I was courting someone (lengthy courting / considering & feeling into a relationship with him) and this guys memory was so bad. So so bad. He forgets everything. All the time. I tried to see it as ok and cute but it became an issue. He cant recall important conversations we had. Important romantic moments with me. He missed many things i talked about. I had to reexplain/repeat so many things. He asks the same questions always and never remembers what I answered the last time he asked the same question. … became too much forgetfulness & lalalandish ways for me. ….. so with that said, tho I believe some of the i dont knows are instructions, some may be real too. Some people have that sorta bad or weird - sorta like an ADD look a like memory.
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
@ThatAmber_ -- Except for the fact that over 30 witnesses in or connected to this family have the same exact memory loss, uncaring/arrogant attitude, and impeccable recall of very specific details. 🙄 Please.
FINALLY Lolly Has Admitted, "There is No Evidence of Anything in this case" lol 😂 LoL 🎉🎉❣️❣️
@CSTeears-68
15 күн бұрын
This Soooo Needs ❣️to Be Merch
I never thought I would miss the murdaugh trial
@Princelover-ip4gn
19 күн бұрын
Bring the jury! And the fire of that prosecutor. Creighton was going to get Murdaugh convicted and he was completely clear and convincing.
Replay crew: if the older Albert's, etc. have created a situation where these kids are being scrutinized unnecessarily and unfairly, it's shameful and mind boggling that you would subject your kids to harassment and lifelong gossip to cover your own ass!
@hnraj9441
20 күн бұрын
Unless they're covering for one of the kids. Idk honestly but I do believe they are covering something.
@maggieann1306
20 күн бұрын
@@hnraj9441completely agree
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
Clearly, they don't GAF. 🙄
Week #3 and I've only heard the name of the person on trial and the person who died less than 10 times each. Seriously????????
Just noticed Colin Albert’s says near the beginning of cross that he doesn’t have social media. Then later when they ask why he stopped texting the McCabe girl after Jan 28th, he says they were messaging on other platforms. Snapchat is social media and every other platform you could use to communicate on a phone would also be social media….
@Mountaingoat4234
20 күн бұрын
He could've been referring to the current moment, not at the time
@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios
19 күн бұрын
I believe he got rid of the social media bc of all of the harassment. But he's def involved in what happened so I have no sympathy
@TheDr3bunny
16 күн бұрын
To be fair, though I think CA is sus AF, people do have wildly varying ideas on what counts as “social media”. I think people get an idea in their head that only Facebook-esque sites are social media, even though that isn’t true
I miss Judge Newman, Judge A and Judge Unicorn so muuuch ! 😫🥺 "Are you wearing a tuxedo ? Objection ! Sustained." WHYYYYYYY ???
Everytime i see John O'Keefe's dad sitting there, apart from when he's asleep, he appears to me to be a broken man. I feel sorry for the family to have to sit through all of this and hear that LE have messed up the investigation of their sons death. It is so sad.
3:36:45 he looked out the window, saw the suv gone yet didn't see a man on the ground??
@jessicainderbitzen4662
20 күн бұрын
But he saw the tire marks? Weird
Lally is so frustrating. He’s so boring, repetitive, and the majority of his questions are irrelevant. The defense is smart for not objecting because they want the jury to be bored, frustrated, and zoned out during the prosecution’s case and questioning.
@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios
19 күн бұрын
I dont think he wanted to prosecute this case, honestly. I think his boss made him. That's why he seems so disinterested/dispassionate
@stellaallbright4750
19 күн бұрын
After stating there is no evidence in this case, period...the jury is probably wondering WTF ARE WE DOING HERE!?
The videos coming in lessens the impact of the crying "let's feel sorry for Colin A" testimony!
You never have to apologize for us being able to spend another 4 weeks with you.
If I never have to hear from Colin Albert again it will be too soon. What a slog.
Just a note…. My 10 year old son who is a full on gamer knew exactly what meta data is. My 19 YO daughter was oblivious as well as my 22 YO son.
@basicallyno1722
20 күн бұрын
Did your 10 year old watch the Heard-Depp trial?
@nadine4034
20 күн бұрын
That’s so interesting & curious 🧐
@Molly-pb2yb
20 күн бұрын
I hate to say it but I don't think these kids are very bright!
@cfawcett9870
20 күн бұрын
My 16 year old says he hadn't heard the term either (which proves he doesn't listen to me moan about trials)
@susanarbogast5224
19 күн бұрын
This kid not the sharpest tool in the shed. Couldn't comprehend basic grammar.
Here is what happened IMO: Colin and John got into a physical altercation and the family jumped in to help Colin, thus the dog jumped in to help as well (watch dog attack training videos and they ALWAYS go for the arm). Please also keep in mind that the screenshot photos from Lally are altered and Colin‘s knuckles show ZERO injuries but the REAL photo (that defense attorneys have) show the actual injuries on his knuckles. The FBI will figure all of this out and Colin and others will be held accountable for John’s death. Oh and of course, Karen is about to be acquitted. Also (and remember): 1) Basement flooring replaced 2) house then SOLD 3) dog “rehomed” 4) cell phones traded in (gone).
@parkerh4180
20 күн бұрын
This is my comment. I posted it a while ago and you straight up (verbatim) STOLE IT. WOW. Come up with your own comment hey??
@parkerh4180
20 күн бұрын
Why did you steal my comment?? Those are my words and thoughts. Are you a bot or just a thief??
@agent_ninety9
20 күн бұрын
Question: I am doing things all day while listening. Where was this then 18 yr old high school boy @12 am? I know that wasn't okay in my house eons ago. I'm confused! Sorry & thanks!
@hnraj9441
20 күн бұрын
Whoever's comment it is, I don't even think the family jumped in to help with a fight. I think the dog jumped in and john fell and hit his head and the family jumped in to cover up the accident.
@agent_ninety9
20 күн бұрын
It's kinda hard to believe a snot nosed 18 year old could beat up a 6'4 police officer. It's possible he didn't want to hit back? I don't know...
So much lies that can’t keep them straight! 4 people never mention Higgins Jeep being there
@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios
19 күн бұрын
Its VERY telling how little he's been mentioned, and yet he was the first person brian senior called that morning.. bc Higgins and colin did it. That's why they keep trying to distance colin from it too.
How many law textbooks are being edited and prepped for printing as soon as this trial wraps? Prosecution: What not to do
There is so much reasonable doubts in this trial, all I have is doubts!!!
23:24 I ABSOLUTELY had a Los Angeles DA tell me before a trial that if I couldn’t remember anything I was being ask *for certain* don’t commit to it and say I don’t remember. This kid is lyinggg lol
State trooper lived across the street with three cameras but when asked nope I have nothing just another missing video
@KonekoPurrrfection
20 күн бұрын
If they use simplisafe its plausible. It NEVER works when I need it and pretty much 80% of the time in general
".... But did you find out.?" This commentary has me rolling 🤣. BTW new law nerd and I am already constantly saying "I have questions." 😂
1:40:00 "There's no evidence of anything in this case." Is that by design, Mister Lally?