Thank you, I've definitely been throwing my silver in the quench at it's hottest for the cool sound. I have not started making jewelry for others yet, so I learned in time. Got my crock on the way but wish I knew about cold pickle because I was reluctant to order. I'm starting with peening long ingots to make simple pendants for family and friends to practice soldering bales and rings plus give them a memory of me and hopefully start them investing in silver. I love how the most beautiful things in the world almost always come from a smart guy willing to still get "dirty" in a corner or workshop hidden away from the beautiful lighting, cases, and presentations.